Tuesday, February 08, 2011

Thailand-Cambodia clashes continue, but Bangkok insists mediation 'not necessary'

Calls for intervention have met firm rejections from Bangkok, even as Thailand-Cambodia clashes that have already killed 10 people continued into their fourth day.

February 7, 2011
By Simon Montlake, Correspondent
The Christian Science Monitor

Bangkok, Thailand - As fighting between Thai and Cambodian troops along a disputed land border entered a fourth day, Indonesia’s foreign minister flew Monday to Cambodia for crisis talks. At least 10 people have died since clashes began Friday, forcing the evacuation of thousands of villagers on both sides of the border.

While the US and other countries have urged restraint by both sides, Cambodia has asked the United Nations to act over what it calls “flagrant aggression” by Thailand. UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said in a separate statement that he was “deeply concerned” by the violence and that the UN stood ready to assist.

But calls for outside intervention have been met with firm rejections by Thailand, which has repeatedly insisted that bilateral talks are the best way to resolve the crisis. “We feel that mediation by outside parties is not necessary,” says Thani Thongpakdi, a spokesman for Thailand’s Foreign Ministry.


Indonesia holds the rotating chair of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), of which both Thailand and Cambodia are members. Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa met Monday with his Cambodian counterpart and is scheduled to arrive in Bangkok on Tuesday for similar talks. Mr. Thani described the visit as a fact-finding mission.

ASEAN’s secretary general, Surin Pitsuwan, a former Thai foreign minister, has urged the rival armies to calm tensions and warned that instability could affect member economies. In a statement on Saturday, he offered to help broker a temporary truce.

But ASEAN is unlikely to play a proactive role in resolving this or other bilateral disputes, even if Thailand shifted its position, say analysts and diplomats. The organization lacks any mechanism for mediation or monitoring ceasefires and has long shied away from sensitive issues that could divide its members, who range from democracies to dictatorships.

“It’s toothless and it doesn’t have much influence, either officially or unofficially, so it won’t play a role,” says Paul Quaglia, director of PSA Asia, a security consultancy in Bangkok.

The latest Thai-Cambodian border clashes are among the most serious since 2008, when Preah Vihear, an 11th century Khmer temple, became a nationalist rallying cry for both countries. Cambodia, which won sovereignty over the temple in 1962, successfully sought its listing by UNESCO as a World Heritage Site in 2008, angering Thai nationalists who said the surrounding area belonged to Thailand. Troop buildups on both sides have since choked off tourist arrivals to the temple.

Thai nationalists have accused Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva of failing to enforce Thai claims along the border. Thousands of protesters have camped out in central Bangkok calling for his resignation and pressing for the return of two Thai nationalists jailed in Cambodia after being convicted last week for illegal entry and spying. Analysts say it’s unclear if the clashes will boost the protests, which have so far failed to attract large crowds.

Cambodia said Sunday that Thai artillery shells had damaged part of the temple, contemporaneous with the better-known Angkor Wat temple complex some 150 miles southwest. Both sides have accused each other of sparking the conflict. In its letter to the UN Security Council, Cambodia accused Thai troops of staging a raid into Cambodian territory on Friday.

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

The UN must step in when requested by just one party. It need not to be consented by Thailand. Here Thailand is bullying Cambodia. This is like saying you can't bring the case to the UN (or to the UN Court of Justice) because I don't agree to it. Another word, you can't sue me in court because I don't agree to it. Bilateral talk didn't go anywhere. Third party must step in right away to avoid further bloodshet. Thailand really bullying Cambodia.

Anonymous said...

The UN are useless, did they help during the KR era? ASEAN is also useless.

Anonymous said...

I love Khmer in & out,
" Thailand, which has repeatedly insisted that bilateral talks are the best way to resolve the crisis. “We feel that mediation by outside parties is not necessary,” says Thani Thongpakdi, a spokesman for Thailand’s Foreign Ministry".

NOTE: Khmers Nationalists knew that long time ago but HUN SEN and his cronies have not listen cuz youn puppets, bilaleral talks what the hell ?????????? will not benefits YOUN OR THAI.. benefit Cambodia like La Hague 1962...
Paris Peace 1991 agreement and La HAGUE, and U.N Security Council these YOUN and THAI will lose peacefully, why needed a drop of less fortunate poor Khmers blood, no $$$$$$...

Down with Cambodia Vietnamization
Down with Indochinese Federation
Down with Ho chi Minh journey to Westward, late Book Professor Noun Kheun
Down with Khmer Vietminh Spy in Cambodia
Down with 10,0000 Youn Soldiers camouflage in Cambodia
Down with Crooky SEN and His cronies

Go with Paris Peace agreement in 1991 to resolve Border between YOUN and THAI

Cambodia Better off anytime if Cambodia: Independent, Neutrality prosperity, liberty, Freedom from any foreign intervention like YOUN
controlling Politicall and Economically in Cambodia.

Vietcong go home
Thai go home
Chinese Communist Expansion go home

Bravo, Cambodia for Cambodian
Khmer being Khmer serving people and country

The war nobody will Lose or win, both will be lost...
Go to U.N Security Council, bring Internatinal legal avenue, Paris Agreement 1991.
Do not scare to YOUN or Thai about this agreement and also call many Khmer independent experts: Dr. Lao Mong Hay, Dr. Gaffa Peang Meth, Mr. Seang Peng Se, Mr. Dy Kareth, Professor Soth Poline, The late Documents. Of Mr. Sarin Chhak, Dr. Naranh Kiri, and many other Khmer nationalists elite around the globe they want to help Srok Khmer too, but seeing Srok Khmer controlling by Foreign influences they rather staying in the side lines, I did not blame them...
Now Hun Sen appeal for U.N Keeppeacing Forces to monitor Peace in the border..
Do not look down, intimidate to U.N Secretary General like SEN did when Mr. Ban Ki Moon visited in Phnom Penh last year...SEN you will be down one day if you are stupid -- you are NO GOD.....

Serve your Country and her less fortunate people if you want to unite all Khmers

Anonymous said...

It made a jungle prime minister looks so stupid. He always warns the UN and other foreign diplomats not to interfere with his dictator way of ruling Cambodia ...until he is in trouble and now he's asking them for help now

Anonymous said...

I used to believe when the dog bit you ,seek condemnation on its master.

But in the case of Siam invaders, I strongly urge Cambodia to shoot the damned dog and fed its meat to the master.

Do otherwise,its evil master will blame Cambodia not noticing the dogs had rabies.

Anonymous said...

It's not up to Thailand to decide whether or not international mediation is required or not!

Greedy Thais think they can bully us at their will!

Anonymous said...

That is the result of Ah Kwach policy and his clan "WIN-WIN". Now is afraid from Thailand. After peace agreement in Paris 1991, temple Preah Vihear is belong to Cambodia since 1907,1962. Since we have problem with Thailand he never want to raise this issues for UN, all Khmer nationalists critized him about the border East and West those must put in prison. That is the strong man.

Anonymous said...

Hun Sen finally requested the UN for help which most Cambodian who are living abroad want Cambodia to do this a long time ago.
There is a reason why Cambodia Gov. did not want to do this because the UN is not effective and Thai Gov. know that. Atleast, Cambodia Gov. gave it a try by negotiating with Thai which some Cambodian also supported this ideas. The negotiation was not working because from Thai point of view the Thai Gov. have to give what Thai people wanted and as right now Thai wanted Preah Vihear back. Is it how democracy work in Thailand ??????
I want to hear the expert on democracy answer this question !!! Especialy some one from the US.
How many more Cambodian lives have to suffer before the US Gov. get involve ????

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

It is not up to Bangkok to decide on our own interest. They like it or not Cambodia must push for a third party intervention; preferably UNITED NATIONS. We must put this dispute once and for all.

Thailand has not interest to solve the problem. They wanted to keep alive so they can use it for their political gains and to bully Cambodia. So please stop being stupid to let this continue.

Anonymous said...

Thailand thinks they could win the war with Khmer that is why they rather not have a third party involved. On another note Thai doesn't have prove of the 4.6 belong to them. The only way Thai could get the 4.6 is by bullying Khmer to give up the area.

I think Thai is making a big mistake by not letting the third party involved. Why? Khmer is doing whatever her can do avoid war. She had been to hell and came back and know the pain. Asking the UN to help solve the problem is a good thing. Why? Khmer have to use all of her resources first before going to war. If all of the resources doesn't work, Khmer have no choice but to go to war with Thai.

And when war does start the world can not say anything to Khmer. They will most likely to blame Thai. To win the war you need support.

Anonymous said...

Hun Sen is a dog..stupid and abused power over Khmer Citizen people. Call Hanio for help not UN....you dont support UN! You uncle HO!

Anonymous said...

Let change the thai bully perception toward khmer.

Keep the UN out.

DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO to RE-CLAIM SURIN and SI SA KET.

Mr. Hun Sen. this is the time to prove the strength of your mucle. DON"T PORVE IT TO KHMER CIVILIANS, PROVE IT TO THE INVADER, THE THAI.

Anonymous said...

Very good that this war will not end. I support war between Cambodia and Thailand. Beside, I dont think Cambodia would have a chance to come out ahead of this war which means more casualties will be on Cambodia and not Thailand. I dont think China would stick its neck into Cambodia internal's affairs, likewise, Vietnam wishes to see the dissolutions of Cambodia as a country, thus Cambodia would be devouted by Thailand. Very good.


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Anonymous said...

According to Nostradamus, the Third World War will be stared by the Yellow Skin People. Who tha fuck is the Yellow Skin People Mr. Nostradamus? There would never be peace on planet earth if you ask me. Mankind is no good for nothing except killings and hatred. Fuck religion and politicians if you ask me. They are good for nothing. They think they know how to solve world problems and at the end of the day they go home and fuck more pussies while slavery is continuing to occur. I say FUCK the Pope and Fuck all religions. They are all Man-Made. There is no truth among men.


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Anonymous said...

Thailand affraid the world know the truth about their bad behavoirs toward poor neighbors, they don't want people to know their real history, they lied and hidden the truth from the world...Thailand think the world is dumb and stupid? Thailand will lost more province back to cambodia, if the real truth reveal to the world..

Anonymous said...

PROVE TO THE AGGRESSOR, THAI. CHANGE THE COURSE AND CHNAGE THEIR PERCEPTION TOWARD KHMER.

GET SUPPORT FROM BURMA, LAO, MALAY AND VIET.

LET THEM HAVE A TASTE OF WAR.

Anonymous said...

I praised our soldier for their bravery, and kick Thai ass so bad...Thailand will not have a chance to capture that area..stop dreaming asshole! Thai PM must get rid of those yellow troble makers immediately!

Anonymous said...

I agree! UN and Asian are usless asshole people! They can't do shit to help cambodia...UN,US ran away when Khmer Rouge advanced to take control the country...

Anonymous said...

Why Thai believe no interference? It is not afraid of interference, but actually it is using the army as strategy and leverage for its next joint-cambodian conference which is set to be next month.

Essentially, Thailand is bullying Cambodia to accept its terms and agreements on the next talk through show of force and threat of violence and "superior" weapons.

Before the war, the joint commission was postpone almost indefinitely, now we are going to meet in the next month---guess what the Thais will ask for then??

Every Khmer should write a letter, e-mail, postages, to the U.N and tell them that they should take action. If enough people bombard them with concerns, they will take action.

Anonymous said...

U.N (UNTAC) resolved Cambodia conflicts 1991-1993, the big giants, Chinese, U.S, and the YOUN and Thai were parties in this agreement.
Thai and Youn also a members of United Nations, if you live in the jungle you are not call a democratic country, the jungle people is not belong to Members of the United Nation they are belong to their tribes: NO DEMOCRATIC rule, they rule by one man of a hundred wifes.. Sic..
Thai is member of the United Nation
,Cambodia and Vietnam as well..
In 1962 the International Court La Hague grant Khmer Right to own Preah Vihear..
If thai gov. is not a jungle country or is U.N Member let see the consequences that THAI will not abide by U.N Security Council resolution if any as Thai is a member.
If THAI is a barbaric Country no rule of law of the land then THAI is not a democratic country...
Many people abroad do not like HUN SEN rule Cambodia now by oppression...but we did not want THAI to bully Cambodia our country...
We are abroad staying out cuz seeing HUN SEN has not served the country and the less fortunate Khmers..he serve YOUNs
We do not see THAI or YOUN smarter as they think.. but we knew that our leaders failed us..
But THAI or YOUN do not underestimate us if we are together you will be run like hell...

Some Khmer abroad

Anonymous said...

The one with the big stick (gun) will rule the world. What does this mean in plain language to laymen? What tha fuck is a layman? Simple minded person whose lives depend on politicians and they lacked of wisdom and education. What tha fuck is a UN Security Council? What compose of UN Security Council? Who made up UN Security Council? You all can go to UN Website and look who are holding the fucking seats at UN Security Council? They control this world and they implement only to their fucking interests and the interests of World Corporations or Big Businesses. In America you called them Corporate America, but I dont know what tha fuck they call them at the UN, but all I know is that this UN Security Council even have Bosses. These fucking idiots have to answer to someone who are much higher than them. Who tha fuck is Ban Ki Moon? This guy is a lackey and he does what he's been told to do. I say our lives meant nothing to these idiots...just look at the many lives lost during Khmer Rouge Regime. No one give a shit about Khmer lives that have lost. In return they compensate you with monies. How much you ask? They kill you and spit at your fucking country while giving you several millions to solve this fucking problems on your own. Isnt that too obvious that they dont care what happen to Cambodia or anyone in that region of the world. The fucking world has been devided into regions and each region has its own boss. You ask why is that? My answer to you is...Open your fucking eyes and ears, see whats underneath and not what they want you to see through the fucking media. When your country is filled with a bunch of idiots thats what they are doing to you. So you ask who are we to blame? Well, you really have no choice to blame anyone but your fucking self and your fucking leaders. Smart people will never outsmart another smart people, but idiots. In this case, who tha fuck are a bunch of idiots?
Well, look around! I am tired of writing...so I say FUCK THIS WORLD AND FUCK RELIGIONS AND POLITICIANS. IF I HAVE MY WAYS I WILL BURN THIS WORLD INTO HELL MANY TIMES OVER.


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Anonymous said...

This should be the time for all khmer to be united. We support CPP and all soldiers who fight for our motherland. Long live khmer people.

Anonymous said...

Yes, of course UN must intervene!

This is just like a divorce case. When one party request to be divorced the court will issue a warrant or will summon him to court to clarify the situation. We can't let the Thai or SIAM to bully Khmer around like that.

Anonymous said...

Thailand is one of the oldest, most developed, and domocratic ASEAN members. Never been touched by modern war. And yet it acts and behave like a delusional lunatic when it comes to neighborly dimplomacy--Cambodia, Laos, Burma. Can Thailand be trusted to handle this affair bilataraly? I think not!!!

Anonymous said...

1:58

Take a chill pill.

Anonymous said...

2:15 AM
Hun Sen is a PM with numerous college degrees and many stars on his shoulders, he should know a long time ago that the bilateral would not work. His choice of not seeking the UN help was beyond the majority of ordinary Cambodian comprehension. That is why you see on left side of this blog branding him as “TRAITOR” in many languages, and the truth hurts him very bad.

Anonymous said...

Hun Sen afraid if UN or recall UNTAC to intervene about the Cambodian situation surround its border. One thing this intervene will scare YUON about their encroachment too.

When Thailand seeing YUON can have the piece of pie why can't they?

HUN SEN must act for the sake of Cambodian regardless of YUON and SIAM.

Khmer Jeay den,

Khmer Sra lanh Jeat

Anonymous said...

x-man

Thailand will not win the war. There are many reasons why. I don't need to tell you. Since you dumb anyway.

From what i heard so far Thai is planning to give up the 4.6. They only talk tough because they don't want to lose face.

There are lots of idiots like yourself out there that is why there's no point of tell you why Khmer will win the war.

Anonymous said...

thailand's weakness is with the UN security council; i think cambodia should use that for the benefit of all, really! more talking with thailand's pad thugs group and their pro-leaders will only prolong it to another day, weeks, months, years, etc... to permanently stop this kind of violattion, it is crucial for the world to step up and tell thailand to stop their rankling once and for all with whatever personal problem they have with cambodia, etc...

Anonymous said...

in order to better understand their issue on both side, the UN should sit down with them, officially, to hear both of their complains, arguments, etc, then use the law to put a stop or fix it once and for all so no more future dispute like this can occur again; otherwise, it won't go away and will re-emergence say a century from now, and so forth. how else are they supposed to work it work, by using the law, of course, not by bullying and aggression, invasion, etc... because cambodia did not invade thailand, it's the other way around, just like at the shrinking size and small population and weaker economy of cambodia compare to thailand, really. so to say cambodia invaded thailand first is illogical, really!

anyway, the root of the problem here is actually two things: siem people like pad extremists' rankling over cambodia's preah vihear icj verdict since 1907 and their disrespect of the international treaty of 1907, and their domestic political bickering. cambodia is just their scapegoat in all of this, in actuality, you know! please take a closer look into it and any political analyst can tell you similarly, etc...

Anonymous said...

if the world leave this up to thailand, this issue won't end any time soon, really! siem's rankling is a hot issue with them! they will need the world to tell them to stop it; law is law, period! learn to live with it, adapt to it, get used to it, etc, etc, really!

Anonymous said...

cambodia welcome the UN force in cambodia. cambodia belongs to the world; it is right for the UN to help to protect it, develop it, educate it, etc, etc... god bless cambodia.

Anonymous said...

Shot first and talk second....then trade pad thai and Br ho ....bitches

Anonymous said...

Hun Sen it a joke when come to international! any only know how kill Khmer people.

Anonymous said...

war with thai youn take you land quietly and no one can say anything
because avery body think about war. Youn will not help but youn will take it as much thay can.

Anonymous said...

if you do not need UN why not withdraw from UN membeship and do not bother attending UN meeting in New York or Geneva.

Anonymous said...

Without UN, Khmer will lose more lives, temple, and land. Your little country is run by a puppet and is living on int'nl aid. do not think that you are a tiger. Try to survive and not to be bossy.

HELPING NOT POSSIBLE said...

IF UNITED NATIONS CAN'T HELP THIS WAR .HUN SEN WILL BE USE ANOTHER KEY TO FIGHT THAI TROOP BACK DEEP DOW INSIDE THAI TERRITORY WITH LAO AND YUON TROOPS ,THAT JUST 'S 1 HOUR TRIP FROM LAO AND YUON COUNTRY .THAI WILL BE KNEE DOW SOUTH AND PASS BANGKOK CITY.

Anonymous said...

ThaiLand is doing the right things.
As long as Cambodia has VIOLATED the 23 October 1991 peace Agreement
Thailand has the rights to do so...
If Vietnam can do Thailand and Laos can do too.
There is nothing wrong with that, due to PARIS PEACE AGREEMENT.

I say Thailand's doing the great job!
Invade as much as Thai can do....
If Viet can do same as Thai and Laos, doing their part.
Thank You Thai...

Anonymous said...

Thai has always rejected outside interference regarding border dispute.

Now, PM Hun Sen subbitted a formalcompaint to the UN. Abhist rejects again.

All Khmers must understand Abhisit. Cambodian RG has no choice except to fight back while submitting a complaint to UN.


WE as Khmers must support the troops to defend our country. We comdemn Abhisit and his clan.

Khmer/American in USA

Anonymous said...

To 2:34 AM,

First of all I am very calm and chill. Thanks.

To 3:10 AM,

Where have you been living and what planet are you on? You are either blind or plainly too stupid to except the truth. Pull your fucking head out of your ass and maybe you can see better. Did you read what 4:34 AM is saying? Now that is the truth unless you cant read or possess some forms of intelligence to even debate. You are either a caveman or just simply dumb. Do your comparisons when it comes to military expenditures between Thailand and Cambodia you fucking idiot!

Do you think that China is Cambodia's parents when it comes to war with Thailand? Do you think for once that China would provide Cambodia with assistances by supplying ammunitions and war equipments to fight against Thailand? You'd better think again you fucking moron. You dont know a from z. You have no fucking clues when it comes to geo-politics. I dont know what to tell you man. Just take this simple equation and think about it: Look at the Fucking Khmer Rouge Tribunal. How far has this case taking Cambodia and who are responsibled for 1.75 millions lives? Anyone went to prison for this crime yet against humanity? BTW, who tha fuck furnish this monies for the trial? You and your fucking government? In short, it is you who is very stupid and simply dumb when it comes to geo-politics and understanding of how the world works. If in Cambodia there are many Khmers who thinks like you, I would not want to be Khmer, I'd rather be something else, because that would be very embarrassing to my fucking Khmer ancestors. So go and learn more or maybe just shut the fuck up and listen. Dont hurry to make any comments if you are too stupid to see realities.

Do your fucking research on war expenditures between Thailand and Cambodia. There is nothing for FREE you motherfucker! Dont expect China or fucking Viets to furnish anything for you or your country for FREE!!! Now take that and shove it down your throat...you idiot!


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Anonymous said...

Abhisit at what PRICE??

This man calls himself a democrat!
The English born and Oxford educated Abhisit seems to have no political morals whatsoever.
I would love to be proved wrong, however, I see him as a spoilt brat who will do anything
to get his own way.
Mr Abhisit, I suspect will oversee the further weakening of democracy and personal freedoms
in Thailand; all to fulfil his personal ambitions.
At what Price Mr Abhisit did you sell your soul to the devil?
He is the proxy of the military and the powerful pooyai. The country has already lost its dignity through this backdoor anti-democracy democrats (wow better change their name). Wait till we see if the 'democrat government will charge the PAD and all those responsible for all the illegal armed assemblies and charges of treason, terrorism. The abuse of public properties for the PAD illegal armed assemblies.

Well, I think it is good for Phuea Thai to remain opposition. These MPs have back-bone and principle for not willing to be bought by money to cross over to a proxy party - a party that will continue to be dictated by the military and powerful pooyai. Expose the dictators and those pooyai and restore the 1997 PEOPLE charter and democracy.

Anonymous said...

Abhisit at what PRICE??

This man calls himself a democrat!
The English born and Oxford educated Abhisit seems to have no political morals whatsoever.
I would love to be proved wrong, however, I see him as a spoilt brat who will do anything
to get his own way.
Mr Abhisit, I suspect will oversee the further weakening of democracy and personal freedoms
in Thailand; all to fulfil his personal ambitions.
At what Price Mr Abhisit did you sell your soul to the devil?
He is the proxy of the military and the powerful pooyai. The country has already lost its dignity through this backdoor anti-democracy democrats (wow better change their name). Wait till we see if the 'democrat government will charge the PAD and all those responsible for all the illegal armed assemblies and charges of treason, terrorism. The abuse of public properties for the PAD illegal armed assemblies.

Well, I think it is good for Phuea Thai to remain opposition. These MPs have back-bone and principle for not willing to be bought by money to cross over to a proxy party - a party that will continue to be dictated by the military and powerful pooyai. Expose the dictators and those pooyai and restore the 1997 PEOPLE charter and democracy.I don't think he can solve this country problem.
I believe he won't stand for long.
Red shirt is coming after him.
He just a plain looking handsome men but inside his hearts he don't care what people are suffering. He only care for himself and in front of everyone he is nice.
The country will be worse than before he is to become PM

Anonymous said...

Don't worry... Abhisit's goverment going to be overthrown very soon. The Thais are world renown for their whores. As soon as those generals lose their money from border trades with Cambodia they are going to get rid of him.

Anonymous said...

if Khmer people help
Hun Sen as they help
Vietnam.This crocodile sneaks around to get a free
food.She invaded Cambodia,robbed and killed Khmer people.
Khmer must bring Hun Sen when the peacekeepers come in.
Viet must get out of
Cambodia and also the Viet immigrants.

Anonymous said...

UN's useless, you did not interveen when Kambucha in communist, why should do now right! let our leader get what we want from Khmen.

Chiyo! Chiyo!

BuildaBetterWorld said...

Thais, Look at this video and make your own judgment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwwDhuv-RX0&playnext=1&list=PL919D7840D4080BD5

Many similar videos have been block by Thai government. Are they afraid the truth will be known to more Thais.

Politicians are always screwing their peoples' mind for personal gain? But some will go to greater extend by screwing with their peoples' life as well.

There is always a motive in every speech they made. Read between the lines and analyze, don't be fooled by them.

The world will be better without them. They will try to create false security or fear just to control you.

Be neutral and keep your mind open to information from around the world and the truth will reveal itself to you.