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An objective look at the facts behind the fury surrounding the Preah Vihear ownership debate
27/03/2011
Anchalee Kongrut
Bangkok Post
Do we need another book on the subject of Preah Vihear - an ancient Khmer style temple that has been sparking rows between Thailand and Cambodian time and again?
Given the magnitude of the problem and associated arguments _ most of them funnelled by patriotic or political motives - the need for a dispassionate look at the underlying issues is, if anything, more important.
If you are looking for a book that will confirm your patriotic ideology, this is not for you. It addresses the temple as a cultural heritage object with a long history shared by both countries.
Santi Pakdeekam is an expert on Cambodia. A graduate from Silpakorn University's faculty of archaeology, he later pursued a master's degree in ancient Eastern inscriptions and teaches Khmer language at Srinakharinwirot University.
He has also written many history books, including a review of the Khmer versions of the Ramayana.
This 97-page book is not a chatty anecdote-filled tome, nor a serious, yawn-inducing academic book on history and archaeology. It treads a middle path.
Santi presents his arguments dispassionately, while explaining why the temple means so much to both sides.
In 1038, King Suriyavoraman I built the magnificent temple and called it ''Sri Sikareesuan'', which originated from the word for Shiva lingum.
This was how the temple was known until the legal dispute between Thailand and Cambodia unfolded over Preah Vihear at the International Court of Justice at The Hague in 1959.
The book includes everything you need to know to understand the Preah Vihear dispute: the notorious 1:200,000 scale map made by the French, Unesco's role, and previous political attempts to claim ownership of the temple.
Thanks to his solid knowledge and unbiased passion, Santi manages to tell a story of the temple that stands the test of time.
''People tend to forget that this stone temple does not belong to certain country. Indeed, it is heritage of the Southeast Asian region and it deserves collective conservation.'' (KI-Media: sic!)
The book is readable even for readers without historical knowledge of the temple, and is ideal for those who prefer a sober view.
36 comments:
What the #$#@##$ is this guy talking about. Our ancestor built it and we take care of it period. If you want to treat as such than it's as long as Khmer has the ownership of it. The so-call expert from Thailand are nothing but a bunch of biased nerds who got his their history twisted.
Ah Siamese you should gratitudes to Khmer people causes we're the one give birth to you motherfuckers. Stops twisted the histories asshole your people should respected us like Your Dady.
Koh Tral Island must not be forgotten
By Ms. Rattana Keo
Why do Koh Tral Island, known in Vietnam as Phu Quoc, a sea and land area covering proximately over 10,000 km2 [Note: the actual land size of Koh Tral itself is 574 square kilometres (222 sq miles)] have been lost to Vietnam by whose treaty? Why don’t Cambodia government be transparent and explain to Cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?
Cambodian armies are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 on the Thai border and what's about over 10,000km2 of Cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian armies you are decide the fate of your nation, Cambodian army as well as Cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?
Koh Tral Island, the sea and land area of over 10,000 square kilometres have been lost to Vietnam by the 1979 to 1985 treaties. The Cambodian army at front line as well as all Cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are Cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protecting a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group but disguising as protecting the Khmer nation?
The Cambodian army at front lines suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs, lack of foods, lack of nutrition and their families have no health care assistance, no securities after they died but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning system with message from young girls, have first class medical care from oversea medical treatments, they are billionaires, millionaires who sell out the country to be rich and make the Cambodian people suffer everyday.
Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that resulted in the loss over 10,000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why they are not being transparent and brave enough to inform all Cambodians and Cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't they include Koh Tral (Koh Tral size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen and bigger than Singapore [Note: Singapore's present land size is 704 km2 (271.8 sq mi)]) with heap of great natural resources, in the Cambodian education system?
Look at Hun Sen's families, relatives and friends- they are billionaires, millionaires. Where did they get the money from when we all just got out of war with empty hands [in 1979]? Hun Sen always say in his speeches that Cambodia had just risen up from the ashes of war, just got up from Year Zero with empty hands and how come they are billionaires, millionaires but 90% of innocent Cambodian people are so poor and struggling with their livelihood every day?
Smart Khmer girl Ms. Rattana Keo,
Koh Tral Island must not be forgotten
By Ms. Rattana Keo
Why do Koh Tral Island, known in Vietnam as Phu Quoc, a sea and land area covering proximately over 10,000 km2 [Note: the actual land size of Koh Tral itself is 574 square kilometres (222 sq miles)] have been lost to Vietnam by whose treaty? Why don’t Cambodia government be transparent and explain to Cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?
Cambodian armies are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 on the Thai border and what's about over 10,000km2 of Cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian armies you are decide the fate of your nation, Cambodian army as well as Cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?
Koh Tral Island, the sea and land area of over 10,000 square kilometres have been lost to Vietnam by the 1979 to 1985 treaties. The Cambodian army at front line as well as all Cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are Cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protecting a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group but disguising as protecting the Khmer nation?
The Cambodian army at front lines suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs, lack of foods, lack of nutrition and their families have no health care assistance, no securities after they died but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning system with message from young girls, have first class medical care from oversea medical treatments, they are billionaires, millionaires who sell out the country to be rich and make the Cambodian people suffer everyday.
Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that resulted in the loss over 10,000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why they are not being transparent and brave enough to inform all Cambodians and Cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't they include Koh Tral (Koh Tral size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen and bigger than Singapore [Note: Singapore's present land size is 704 km2 (271.8 sq mi)]) with heap of great natural resources, in the Cambodian education system?
Look at Hun Sen's families, relatives and friends- they are billionaires, millionaires. Where did they get the money from when we all just got out of war with empty hands [in 1979]? Hun Sen always say in his speeches that Cambodia had just risen up from the ashes of war, just got up from Year Zero with empty hands and how come they are billionaires, millionaires but 90% of innocent Cambodian people are so poor and struggling with their livelihood every day?
Smart Khmer girl Ms. Rattana Keo,
3:20 PM
Khmer should thanks Thai for protecting and saving Preah Vihear temple from the Khmer Rouge destruction. Khmer should look at Khmer Krom 100s of temples were destroyed and killed Khmer people by the Vietnamese. Vietnamese destroyed a lot pagodas and temples in Khmer Krom to erased evident of Khmer History in Khmer Krom and nothing will be happen like Preah Vihear temple.
....Thailand has many Thai academic experts, Santi is one of them, in Cambodia/Khmer Studies.....Does Cambodia have any expert in Thailand/Thai Studies? How many? Who? Pleae kindly tell me.
6.53
If you are the real Thai we know who were your ancestors alright...!!! Tai, Mongols or to be exact, you were one of the Southern Chinese tribes..!!! And those Siams who claimed to be Thai now in fact you were once, Khmer. We Khmer gave you the name Siam because you were traitors....
Santi is totally crazy( fucking LOB SANTI) that's what he is... Too much fucking study that's why he's gone mad. Face the fact you moron, there were no borders in the past until the French arrived. So there were Khmers in current Cambodia and there were Khmers all the way from Prey Nakor( Ho Chi Minh City) to Chiang Mai in Thailand. And there are evidences of Khmer tradition and culture of the Khmer Empire every where in this golden peninsular...
Khmer Trakaulrungreung
Now 7:52pm if you are going to Ho Chi Minh City you are not going to see many Khmer temples and pagodas like in Bangkok. The facts are Vietnamese will destroy any Khmer built structures to erased the Khmer History it is spreading into CAMBODIA right now.
Let's hope for a big earthquack under Phreah Vihear temple to settle this "bullets" in the side issue. I'm praying for an earthquake to wreck this temple, anyone else?
6:27 PM, Thai/Siam never protected the temple of Preah Vihear, but they destroyed or ruined it and also damaged or ruined other Angkor temple complex during their robbery and when they stole land and intellectual properties from Khmer/Cambodia. Khmer/Cambodian people have been taking a very good care of and maintained all temples of Angkorian, but Thai kept on damaging and ruining temples of Angkors. When it comes to the values and money, Thai are phony and want to takes Preah Vihear and temples of Khmer Angkorian in modern day to do tourist business. Thai are the whole bunch of idiots, cronies crooks or cheaters. Thai thieves and crooks have kept taking advantages of what Khmer/Cambodian people who worked very hard to maintain and take care of all Angkor complex including Preah Vihear. How much Thai had done a lot of damages to Preah Vihear and Angkorian complex temples? Now, they want to take or steal the Khmer Angkorian temples and Preah Vihear temple that are not belonged to Thai thieves and that were not built by Thai/Siam thieves. How phony Thai thieves are today!!!
Thai pronounce Prasat Preah Vihear as "PRAH VIHARN" that sounds like Chinese tonal.
Again and again, weird Thai Crooks and Thieves are still today!!!
Khmer/Cambodian people should be careful with Thai whenever Thai try to do things with Khmer/Cambodian people. Don't always trust Thai because Thai always cheat and try to get away with what they want, smart-ass Thai thieves!
Ye, because Khmai is stupid species, my dogs love to fuck you guys so much, hahaha. Dumb barbarians
Khmai whores and beggars are everywhere in Thai, go back to your fuck-off country Scambodia for goodness, LOL
9:57 PM and 9:58 PM, you are very ugliest race of Siam/Tai-Chinese/Thai thieves coming from Mongol killing. You should not be on the planet today because we Khmer wanted to let Mongol kill you all instead of coming to our Khmer land from the borders. You are hypocrite Thai race. I will let American, European and other people in the world should go eat in your restaurants or buy Thai products because you crooks and thieves stole and copied from Khmer people. You cronies and cheap Thai crooks in the worlds, Thai Ladyboys. Your friends are also Youn crooks as well. Thai and Youn/Viet are the same crooks.
Correction for 10:06 PM
9:57 PM and 9:58 PM, you are very ugliest race of Siam/Tai-Chinese/Thai thieves coming from Mongol killing. You should not be on the planet today because we Khmer wanted to let Mongol kill you all instead of coming to our Khmer land from the borders. You are hypocrite Thai race. I will let American, European and other people in the world know Thai are thieves and crooks who stole everything from Khmer/Cambodia such as land, food, cloth, culture. Americans, Europeans, other people in the world should NOT go eat in your restaurants and buy Thai products because you crooks and thieves stole and copied from Khmer people. You cronies and cheap Thai crooks in the worlds, Thai Ladyboys. Your friends are also Youn crooks as well. Thai and Youn/Viet are the same crooks.
^^ A Khmai dog got pissed off, hahaha, come an lick my ass, beggars of Asia
Ah Siam Ah fucking Siam-Thai you looted Khmer treasures and cliams belong to you, the world knew Preah Vihear is belonged to Khmer and it is a Khmer heritage.
Thailand is being hit by Islamic insurgents killing 1-3 of them about every week. I think Thai has greater issue with Islamic extremist.
My advice to you Thai is to rout out the extremist before they do a big one on you. Islamic Jihadist want to take over Thailand. Quit fighting with Khmer, we are just small flees in your hair.
10:13 PM, I think you are Youn who pretend to be Thai. You are similar to 9:57 PM and 9:58 PM. You control Hun Sen and asked him to beg the money from the international donors. You are the one who orders Hun Sen and CPP to cheat the numbers of illegal Youn/Viet folks living in Cambodia along with Cambodian population to demand more money and then you took the money to Vietnam Hanoi.
The International donors will report you, Your Viet/Youn Hanoi, the money stealer, taking the billions of dollars. The U.N., NATO, the U.S., other democratic allies and freedom fighters will crush you and Hanoi with a huge bomb like atomic/nuclear bombs, destroyed those Youn/Viet communist bastards like you. You sounds familiar to the ways you talked, Scambodia that sounds ugly Youn tonal coming from Mongol killing...
Don't make it worst, Youn communist bastard, YOU!!!
10:13 PM,
Again, you used LOL. It sounds like you laugh at your own silly and evil because you have done terrible things to innocent people or victims. Is that sounding funny to you, you evil?
You sound funny when you laugh, a thief. You should be crushed to dead like animal.
Thai or Siam was born in 1238,so Preah Vihear was built more than 900
years ago.Siam was still born as a state yet.
Let's not be angry and talking the truth. The word is Khmer Surin- it means Khmer people who live in Surin Province of Thai. Question: Why are Khmer people in Thai province? Did Khmer immigrate to Thai or Khmer land became Thai land?
I wonder if this Thai scholar did research on this.
But among Khmer, we know that not only Surin are former Khmer province but Burirum, Sisaket, and more. Kampucheakrom are also former Khmer land and everyone knows that. Unless we have a new independent government -not subservient to Viet or to Thai- we are weak to defend what we have had.
មិនមានការបរិយាយ កំហុសអាឆ្កែនរណា?
ប្រជាជន ឬ អ្នកដឹកនាំ ?????????????
Pre-1975, system of spelling proper noun and Khmer name in roman alphabet are unique and standard. Today it is mess.
My name is Duong. - UO-ួ- rhime with 9th Cambodian vovel.
look:
Duong,
Preah baht Ang Duong,
Nuon Chea
Chuon Nath etc.
So, the correct spelling is:
Yuon-
not Youn-
Both Youn and Siem are Khmer enemy.
We must know.
this guys is well-known in thailand- his boy-friend is a farang pedophile...
if khmer people are serious about their business they`ll defeat the siamese aggressors and send the youn pigs to the gas chambers...
stop stealing from cambodia, siem thugs! stop taking advantage of cambodia, ok!
I wish Khmer should not buy Thai products, Thai products imported from Thailand. We would win if we all commite to the comment cause. I always buy Khmer and Chen products such as fish source, sault and other cooking spicy products etc. If Khmer would stop importing stuff from Thailand, and/or don't buy Thai foods, Thai clothes et. things made in Thailand, this would make Ah Thailand down to hell. Understand folks?
Mok pe khmer sob tngay kan kab doy CPP yuon chhlean pean teub ah SIEM vea hean meul ngeay Khmer.
Na muoy ah mai deuk nuorm theu ah 1 riel-1 riel tour yang ah Somrei HUN XEN , ah CHEA XIM choy mray , and ah tror ngaine 4 jrung HENG XAMRIN. Ah oss nis jea kruorb ampil dauss jenh pe ach yuon Yiekcong.
Som tveu kar bass bor jea bontuorn!!!!!!!!
Kom jarm dall pel boss chnort...bass bor!!!!!!!!!
Mjss. SAM CHHUN ENG
Three missing/influential points were mentioned in the pretext:
1. The word Khmer is missing from the King to deflect the real ownership of the temple - "In 1038, King Suriyavoraman I built the magnificent temple"
2. The word notorious was added to sway the readers' opinion - "the notorious 1:200,000 scale map made by the French, Unesco's role, and previous political attempts to claim ownership of the temple."; same as "People tend to forget that this stone temple does not belong to certain country. Indeed, it is heritage of the Southeast Asian region and it deserves collective conservation."
These are manipulative messages from the book.
6:53Am, I agree 100%. It's a twisted belief to fit their agenda. I've never heard of Preah Vihear belonging to Southeast Asian region in the past. What the @@#$#@#@# is this idiot got his research from? And who read his stupid books? It's like someone breaking into a stranger's house and proclaim it belong to everybody so he/she can steal whatever he/she wants. I can't comprehend that.
To the author and other thais who thing Preah Vihear is asian heritage and should be co-manage by thailand, please try to apply your thinking to Barabadu of Indonesia or others in Burma and Malaysia.
What a buffoon siemens expert at stealing!
corrections: Siems not Siemens
shame on siem for wanting and stealing something like preah vihear temple, etc, that's not even theirs to beginning, really!
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