Monday, April 25, 2011

Thailand seeks talks with Cambodia after deadly clashes

2011-04-25
By Martin Petty

PHANOM DONG RAK, Thailand (Reuters) - Thailand's foreign minister called on Monday for one-on-one talks with Cambodia after three days of jungle clashes that killed at least 12 people and sent thousands into evacuation centers in the bloodiest border conflict in nearly two decades.

Thailand's renewed push for bilateral talks followed the cancellation of a visit to both countries by a top Southeast Asian envoy who brokered a U.N.-backed peace deal on February 22 to send Indonesian military observers to the border.

Thailand has resisted international observers, but Thai Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya declined to rule them out when speaking to reporters at an evacuation camp.

"It's not something we are opposed to. This is a sensitive issue," he said in a briefing about 30 km (19 miles) from the scene of recent fighting.


The fighting near two disputed 12th-century Hindu temples followed a four-day clash in February that claimed 11 lives near Preah Vihear, a temple about 150 km (90 miles) to the east.

Guns were mostly silent on Monday but Thai fighter jets roared over the area.

At the center of the latest dispute are the Ta Moan and Ta Krabey Hindu temples in a heavily mined jungle area claimed by both sides. Thailand says the ancient ruins are in its Surin province but Cambodia insists they fall in its territory.

Fighting has been heaviest around Ta Moan, a complex that contains three temples nestled into a mountain pass. Both sides are also positioned around Ta Krabey, where fighting first erupted on Friday and where Cambodia has been accused of building military bases.

A clash late on Sunday killed a Thai soldier, bringing the death toll since Friday to five killed and 31 wounded. Cambodian authorities said a Thai sniper shot dead a Cambodian soldier early on Monday, bring its death toll to seven with 17 wounded.

The Cambodian Defense Ministry said Thai shelling had "damaged the temples", without elaborating, and that civilian villages had been shelled about 20 km (12 miles) inside Cambodian territory. About 17,000 people had been evacuated, it said, and a school and 10 houses destroyed.

Cambodian government spokesman Phay Siphan said "some Thai nationals" were taken into custody for "spying". He did not provide details.

SETBACK TO ASEAN

Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa, chair of the Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN), of which Thailand and Cambodia are members, had been expected to visit Thailand and Cambodia separately on Monday.

Although his trip was canceled, Natalegawa told reporters in Jakarta a trilateral meeting could still take place.

"The possibility is not closed for a direct meeting among the three of us, but the date has not been decided. The important thing is that communication continues," he said.

The conflict and fierce rhetoric from both sides has been a setback for ASEAN, a 10-member bloc modeled on the European Union that plans to become a regional community by 2015.

"Thailand and Cambodia have to show that they really want to promote diplomacy and not violence," said Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yuhoyono.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has urged "serious dialogue" to produce an "effective and verifiable" ceasefire.

Although on the surface the renewed fighting appears to be a dispute over sovereignty, many experts are skeptical and suggest either government may have started the clashes to discredit the other or to appeal to nationalists at home.

The conflict could boost support for Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva's government ahead of an election due by July. Cambodia's government, which has had a series of bitter quarrels with Abhisit's administration, could stand to gain if his ruling Democrat Party is voted out of office.

The two sides battled for more than three hours from late Sunday morning and pounded each other with mortars and artillery, sending hundreds of villagers fleeing or into hiding in makeshift bomb shelters.

Ban Nongkana, a village 7 km (4 miles) from Ta Moan, was almost deserted on Monday after three days of shelling. Dogs roamed dirt tracks and rustic wooden houses were abandoned after troops urged people to leave, fearing another escalation.

Thai Foreign Ministry spokesman Thani Thongpakdi said 30,000 Thais were evacuated from border areas.

The dispute over jurisdiction has persisted since the 1950s, when colonial power France pulled out of Cambodia.

"Without a third-party observer, we will just point fingers at each other about who fired first," Cambodian Foreign Ministry spokesman Koy Kuong said.

An international court ruling awarded Preah Vihear to Cambodia in 1962, but Thailand has tried to thwart its attempt to list the temple as a UNESCO World Heritage Site because it still lays claim to the 4.6 sq km (1.8 sq miles) of scrub around it.

(Additional reporting by Prak Chan Thul in Phnom Penh, Ambika Ahuja in Bangkok and Telly Nathalia in Jakarta; Editing by Jason Szep and Alex Richardson)

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

Talk KANDUOY MÊ AH CHUY RAY SIEM YUON. AH CHOR AH CHOR!

Anonymous said...

Khmer eats shit, hahaha

Anonymous said...

Moor..........
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Anonymous said...

រាជធានីភ្នំពេញ ៖ នៅថ្ងៃទី​​​២៤ មេសា ២០១១ ​ម្សិលមិញ កងទាហាន​ឈ្លានពាន​ថៃ បានធ្វើការ​វាយ​លុក​​​ជា​ច្រើន​​​លើកច្រើនសា ​​​រួម​ជា​មួយនឹង​ការបាញ់​ផ្លោងជាង​​​១.០០០​គ្រាប់​ ​​មក​លើ​​​​កង​​យោធ​ពលខេមរ​ភូមិន្ទ​​​ ដែលឈរ​ជើង​​​​នៅ​តំបន់​​​ប្រាសាទ​​តាមាន់ ​និង​ប្រាសាទ​តាក្របី ​​ក្នុង​គោលបំណង​​​ដណ្តើ​កាន់​កាប់​​ប្រាសាទ ។

Anonymous said...

over 1000 shells of 155mm into Cambodia and how many return back by khmer?

Anonymous said...

Siam is like...what is with this nation: bilateral talk is death. Thai killed it-there were so many time of talking. They never respect the signature that they signed. Many time, their foreign minister negationing, their generals started order their soldiers to kill our soldiers. Can you belive that? Ugh...Now, Thai did not respect United Nation, and do not give a shit about ASEAN!

Anonymous said...

NO MATTER WHAT..SIAM STILL CLAIM KHMER'S ANCEINT TEMPLES AS THEIR SINCE THEY WERE A SLAVE WHO WERE DRAGGING ALL THOSE STONES TO BUILT THE TAMPLES EVERYWHERE DURING KHMER EMPIRE ERA..

Anonymous said...

In the closing weeks of 1964, the US Central Intelligence Agency was gripped by anxiety in the wake of troubling news. On October 16th, a great mushroom cloud had been spotted towering over the remote Chinese missile-testing range at Lop Nur. All evidence had indicated that Chinese scientists were at least a year away from squeezing the destructive secrets from the mighty atom, but this bombshell underscored the agency’s dangerously feeble espionage efforts in the Far East.

Anonymous said...

I feel bad for honorable
Dr. Natalegawa that he has to deal with a wicked Thai. But it is important job that need to get through. Hang in there, push it hard, scream if you need to to get Thai to respect the internation law.

Anonymous said...

LONG LIVE Nguyen Tan Dung..

LONG LIVE Hun Sen..

DIE KHMER SOLDIERS DIE..

Anonymous said...

Even though Thai army fire thousand missiles into Cambodia and kill as many Khmer army. Dr. Hun Sen is a great leader who practice sensible, desire no war. That is What Khmer TV always say when every time they present the news in Cambodia!

But Dr. Hun Sen is very extremely cruelty toward his own people such as K5 policy, Coup 1997 and so on...He murdered thousands of patriot Khmers during 1997 coup by shooting in the head one by one, not one or two Khmers life but thousands Khmer lives have been cut shortly by PhD Dr. Hun Sen. Why doesn’t Dr. Hun Sen love peace at 1997 coup, as now with Thai? I wonder how many Cambodian life has PhD Dr. Hun Sen taken so far but why does he practice sensible, peaceful with Thai and Viet? But not with his own Cambodian people.

How come Dr. Hun Sen has no mercy on his own people but he has plenty mercy on Thai and Viet. I am Khmer but I don't understand.

Can anyone please explain why?

Khmer in Sydney CBD

Anonymous said...

4:46 PM
As anonymous or on this internet, you sound very strong.
Will you said this word with the Khmer Suin in Surin and Borei Ram ?
Or better come to the US in SoCa Long Beach or other places in the US, than you will know, who is going to eating shits ?

Anonymous said...

I'm Thai. I want to apologize to Cambodia for the way my fellow Thai dogs behave.

Anonymous said...

We need Cambodia to help arm our Red shirt brothers, so we can bring Thaksin back, and get rid of the monarchy.

Time to bring true democracy to Thailand.

Anonymous said...

Our Thai military killed 92 people in May of 2010.

Our military generals cannot be trusted. They are the best manipulators around.

Anonymous said...

These Thai general graduated from Manipulation University of Thailand.

No wonder Thailand is in such chaos.

Anonymous said...

We south thailand needs many more munitions, weaponry ... to clash with Thailand, when country in chaos...... Pl. Cambodian joins hands to hands to destroy thai till disappear in this world.


Ta Brahm

Anonymous said...

To be in the Thai military one has to have a minimum level of savagery in his nature.

A Thai soldier must be able to force people off the cliff, just like they pushed Cambodians refugees in 1979.

A Thai soldier must be willing to drag refugees boats to sea, and leave them to die in starvation.
This is occurred in 2008 with Burmese refugees.

A Thai soldier must be willing to kill civilians and lie about it, just like the May 2010 riot suppression in Bangkok.

A Thai soldier must be willing to bark and wag his tail to the god-king.

NhiekKiri said...

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កំុខ្លាំងដាក់ខ្មែរ!
នៅក្នុងល្បែងសង្គ្រាម អ្នកណាខ្លាំងអ្នកនេាះ
ឈ្នះ! បេីថៃបាញ់៣០គ្រាប់ យេីងបាញ់៦០គ្រាប់ ។ គឺថាឆ្លេីយតបចំពេាះសត្រូវជាទ្វេ
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ថា “សុវណ្ណភូមិ ” ។ ជាប្រទេសដែលសំ-
បូរទៅដេាយសម្បត្តិធម្មជាតិ ។ រីឯអ្នកដឹកនាំខ្មែរ
បច្ចុប្បន្នជាបុរសខ្លាំងនិងមានទ្រព្យរាប់កេាដិ ។ ប្រ
ហែលមានតែម្នាក់គត់នៅជ្រេាយអាសុី ។ ពួក
មន្ត្រីជាន់ខ្ពស់សុទ្ធតែជាមហាសេដ្ធី ។ បេីអ្នក
ដឹកនាំនិងមន្រ្តីិអស់នេះមានមនសិកាការជាតិ
អ្ហេះ! ម្លេ៉ះពួកអាថៃមិនបាច់មកក្អកដាក់ខ្មែរបាន
ទេ! ប៉ុន្តែដល់មេខ្មែរនិងមន្រ្តីជាពពួកជនពាល
និងជាឈ្លេីងសង្គម ថែមទាំងជាខ្ញុំកញ្ជះដាច់ថ្លៃ
អាយួនផង អាថៃវាមេីលងាយខ្មែរអញ្ចឹងឯង ។
ជាមួយសត្រូវជិតខាងដូចអាថៃ យេីងខ្មែរគឺគ្មាន
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ខ្មែរនៅក្រេាមការគ្រប់គ្រងរបស់ជនខ្លាំងជម្លេីយ
យង់ឃ្នងនេះយេីងអាចធ្វេីឱ្យថៃបាក់លេាងបាន
ឬទេ? ចម្លេីយដែលខ្លីហេីយត្រូវគឺថា ” អត់ ” ពីព្រេាះបេីនិយាយពីគ្រឿងយុទ្ធេាបករណ៍
ទាន់សម័យគឺយេីងអត់មាន។ យេីងអត់មានពី
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កិច្ចការពារប្រទេស ។ ពួកហ្វូងស្វាដែល
ឈ្លក់វង្វេងនឹងមេាទនភាពដាច់បង្ហៀរខាងអំណាច ទ្រព្យធន និងងារជជុះកំពុងគិតថាមានយួន
ការពារហេីយ ខ្លួនឯងមិនបាច់មានគ្រឿង
អាវុធយុធ្ធករណ៍ទំនេីបស្អីទេ ។ ឱ្យតែមានងារ
ខ្ពង់ខ្ពស់ ទ្រព្យធនសំបូរហូរហៀរទៅបានហេីយ ។ បេីស្រុកទេសមានសង្គ្រាមហូរឈាមដាប
ពេាះដំរី ដេាះស្រាយមិនបាន ពួកយេីង
នាំគ្នាដាក់មេប្រុយទៅបរទេសគឺចប់រឿងបាត់ ព្រេាះលុយយេីងមានណែនឃ្លាំង
នៅស្រុកគេហេីយ ។ ក្បាលអាណា សក់អា
នេាះ!

Anonymous said...

Under Samdach Hun Sen leadership Siam dare not to do harm thing against Cambodian. Siam so afraid of Samdach power.

Anonymous said...

Both country military are nothing to other country so stop fighting! Go thru the peace process and find another solution to solved this crap. Cambodia is trying recover from many yrs of war and Thais need find other way of attract Tourist no terrist!

Peace

Anonymous said...

it's phnom dongrak, not phanom or whatever, ok! speak khmer properly, ok! phnom is a khmer word, not siem thugs' word, ok!