Friday, April 08, 2011

Shaky start to Thailand, Cambodia border talks

Friday, April 08, 2011
Mustaqim Adamrah
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

A two-day meeting on the Thailand-Cambodia border dispute kicked off Thursday in Bogor, south of Jakarta, focusing on the Joint Boundary Commission (JBC).

“There are two key elements we wish to promote [at this meeting]: First, how to ensure the continued cease-fire and the avoidance of armed conflict in the border area,” Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa said on the sidelines of the JBC meeting.

“The [second] focus [is] the deployment of an observer team.”

The meeting, however, failed to commence with the General Border Committee (GBC) meeting. Marty said he hoped a GBC meeting would convene soon.


He also said he believed there would be “a good outcome” on the still suspended plan of the deployment of an Indonesian observer team to the border area after talks with his Cambodian counterpart Hor Namhong.

Marty said he had also communicated with “my Thai colleague on where we are, and I’m not pessimistic that we can make progress on the observer issue”.

At an Indonesian-brokered ASEAN foreign ministers’ meeting in Jakarta on Feb. 22, Thailand and Cambodia agreed to accept an Indonesian observers team to the disputed border area adjacent to the ancient Khmer Hindu temple of Preah Vihear, where heavy fighting erupted in February.

But more than a month later, the observer team remains in Jakarta and Thailand’s military now says the team’s presence is not needed.

Thai media earlier quoted Thai Army chief Gen. Prayut Chan-O-Cha as saying that the observers were not wanted in the disputed area because it was too dangerous and they would only complicate matters.

Thai media also reported that Thai Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban had voiced support Thursday for Gen. Prayut’s opinion that no third party should be involved in the GBC meeting as it was a bilateral issue.

He said neither Indonesia, in its capacity as ASEAN chair, nor any other country, should meddle in the border committee meeting.

Gen. Prayut said he and other Thai military commanders did not intend to attend the GBC meeting in Bogor proposed by Indonesia and agreed to by Cambodia.

Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva was quoted as saying by Malaysian news agency Bernama that the GBC could not take place as the defense ministries of both countries were still negotiating the proposed meeting.

Thai Defense Minister Gen. Prawit Wongsuwon insisted the JBC meeting should be held first followed by the GBC, adding that he did not want the presence of a third party in the bilateral meeting on the Thai-Cambodia border security issues or the GBC to be held in a country other than Thailand or Cambodia, Bernama reported.

Namhong said Cambodia had accepted Indonesia’s invitation to attend the JBC and GBC meetings, as well as consultative meetings between foreign ministers of Cambodia, Thailand and Indonesia.

“Cambodia has accepted immediately the terms of reference for the Indonesian cease-fire observers, but up to now, Thailand has not yet responded,” Cambodian news portal akp.gov.kh reported.

Marty said he had not received news of any changes on Thailand’s position in the matter from the Thai government.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

The island's history is as old as any Asian mainland. An 1856 record mentions the island: "... King Ang Duong (of Cambodia) apprise Mr. de Montigny, French envoy in visit to Bangkok, through the intermediary of Bishop Miche, his intention to yield Koh Tral to France (cf. “The Second [French] Empire of IndoChina”)". Such a proposition aimed to create a military alliance with France to avoid the threat of Vietnam on Cambodia. The proposal did not receive an answer from the French.

While the war between Annam, France, and Spain was about to begin, Ang Duong sent another letter to Napoleon III to warn him on Cambodian claims on the lower Cochinchina region: the Cambodian king listed provinces and islands, including Koh Tral, under Vietnamese occupation since several years or decades (in the case of Saigon, some 200 years according to this letter). Ang Duong asked the French emperor to not annex any part of these territories because, as he wrote, despite this relatively long Vietnamese occupation, they remain Cambodian lands. In 1867, Phu Quoc's Vietnamese authorities pledge allegiance to French troops just conquering HaTien.

After Cambodia gained independence from France, sovereignty disputes over the island were raised since there was no colonial decision on the island's fate. Dating back to 1939, the Governor-general of French Indochina, Jules Brévié had drawn a line to delimiting the administrative boundaries for islands in the Gulf of Thailand: those north of the line were placed under the Cambodian protectorate; those south of the line were managed by the colony of Cochinchina. Brévié made the point that the decision merely addressed police and administrative task, and that no sovereignty decision had been made. As a result, Phu Quoc remains under Cochinchina administration.

Phu Quoc has been a sleepy historical backwater most of its life. The temple on Cau rock was built in 1937. During the Vietnam War the island housed South Vietnam's largest prisoner camp (40000 in 1973, cf. Ngo Cong Duc, deputy of the Vinh Binh province, quoted in "Le régime de Nguyen Van Thieu à travers l'épreuve", Etude Vietnamienne, 1974, pp. 99–131).
After Mainland China fell under the control of the Chinese Communist Party in 1949, General Huang Chieh led 30,000 Republic of China Army soldiers to Vietnam and they were stationed at Phu Quoc Island. Later, the army moved to Taiwan in June 1953. There is currently a small island in Kaohsiung, Taiwan's Chengcing Lake that was constructed in November 1955 and named Phu Quoc Island in memory of the fleeing Chinese soldiers in 1949.

In 1967, during the Sangkum Reastr Niyum, Norodom Sihanouk aimed to make the border internationally recognized; in particular, in 1967, the North Vietnamese government recognize theses borders. As written in an article from Kambudja magazine in 1968 (and quoted in the Sihanouk website), entitled "border questions", this border definition recognize that Phu Quoc island is in Vietnamese territory, even if Cambodian claims have been made later.

On May 1, 1975, a squad of Khmer Rouge soldiers raided and took Phu Quoc Island, but Vietnam soon recaptured it. This was to be the first of a series of incursions and counter-incursions that would escalate to the Cambodian–Vietnamese War in 1979.

By Dr. Hun Manet,

Anonymous said...

Koh Tral Island must not be forgotten

By Ms. Rattana Keo

Why do Koh Tral Island, known in Vietnam as Phu Quoc, a sea and land area covering proximately over 10,000 km2 [Note: the actual land size of Koh Tral itself is 574 square kilometres (222 sq miles)] have been lost to Vietnam by whose treaty? Why don’t Cambodia government be transparent and explain to Cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?

Cambodian armies are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 on the Thai border and what's about over 10,000km2 of Cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian armies you are decide the fate of your nation, Cambodian army as well as Cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?

Koh Tral Island, the sea and land area of over 10,000 square kilometres have been lost to Vietnam by the 1979 to 1985 treaties. The Cambodian army at front line as well as all Cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are Cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protecting a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group but disguising as protecting the Khmer nation?

The Cambodian army at front lines suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs, lack of foods, lack of nutrition and their families have no health care assistance, no securities after they died but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning system with message from young girls, have first class medical care from oversea medical treatments, they are billionaires, millionaires who sell out the country to be rich and make the Cambodian people suffer everyday.

Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that resulted in the loss over 10,000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why they are not being transparent and brave enough to inform all Cambodians and Cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't they include Koh Tral (Koh Tral size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen and bigger than Singapore [Note: Singapore's present land size is 704 km2 (271.8 sq mi)]) with heap of great natural resources, in the Cambodian education system?

Look at Hun Sen's families, relatives and friends- they are billionaires, millionaires. Where did they get the money from when we all just got out of war with empty hands [in 1979]? Hun Sen always say in his speeches that Cambodia had just risen up from the ashes of war, just got up from Year Zero with empty hands and how come they are billionaires, millionaires but 90% of innocent Cambodian people are so poor and struggling with their livelihood every day?

Smart Khmer girl Ms. Rattana Keo,

Anonymous said...

In respone to Dr. Hun Manet by Ms. Rattana Keo,

KAMPUCHEA KROM AT A GLANCE

Kampuchea Krom is composed of 68,965 square kilometers, 21 provinces and municipalities, two large islands - Koh Tral and Koh Tralach, 171 districts, 1,368 communes, 14,778 villages, more than 13 million Khmers, more than 567 Buddhist pagodas and more than 20,000 Theravada Buddhist monks.

99% of populations are Theravada Buddhists.

The Khmer kings, governments, regimes and citizens have never relinquish (give up) this part of their country to foreigners.

Kampuchea Krom has been under an ongoing colonial control since her division from motherland, Cambodia.

June 4, 1949 is the date that the Khmer Kampuchea Krom citizens grieve. The Khmer Kampuchea Krom people have organized Buddhist Service annually to honor the fallen Khmer Buddhist monks and heroes, who sacrificed their lives for Kampuchea Krom and Theravada Buddhism.

Colonial France divided, ceded and transferred Kampuchea Krom to colonial Vietnam on this date. The freedom of Khmer Kampuchea Krom has been mostly stripped by the Vietnamese ruling regimes and governments since. The French colonial administration committed injustice upon the more than 13 million Khmers of this beautiful fertile land.

Justice remains elusive for Cambodia, Kampuchea Krom and her citizens.

And...The struggle to regain freedom and human rights by the Khmers in Kampuchea Krom continues as long as injustice commits by the ruling Vietnamese regime(s) has not produced a fruitful result.

Koh Tral (Tral Island)
in Vietnamese - Phu Quoc island
circa 1939 Vietnamese encroached and conquered

Koh Tral Island has an area of 567 square kilometers; about 62 kilometers long and between 3 kilometers and 28 kilometers wide. The island physically is located closest to Cambodia's Kep seaside city. Visitors can see Koh Tral Island from the coastline of Kep. It is about a 30-minute motorized boat ride.

Anonymous said...

UN must prosecuted Thailand for using illegll baned weapons...cluster bombs against poor cambodian, we put pressure on United Nation to prosecute Thailand!

Anonymous said...

United Nation must prosecute Thailand for using illegally baned weapons, cluster bombs against poor cambodian...Thailand suppose to be a good role model for the South East Asian Nation...But Thailand shown a bad bad role model instead??

Anonymous said...

Thai army chief can't fight straight with poor cambodian army, that's why Thai has to cheated and used dirty trick...But still can't do anything......?