Army insists cluster bombs were not used
MILITARY BARS USE OF MUNITIONS AT CENTRE OF SCANDAL
10/04/2011
Wassana Nanuam
Bangkok Post
The army at first denied using a cluster bomb because it thought the term referred only to those dropped from aircraft, but the definition also covers ones fired from the ground if they later burst into multiple bomblets, said the source ... The Thai troops did not care if the weapons they used were cluster bombs
The army has suspended the use of the M198 shell used with 155mm towed artillery, following allegations that cluster bombs were employed in border clashes with Cambodia in early February.
The army, however, insisted this type of shell was not classified as a cluster bomb, despite some similarities.
The army has suspended the use of M198 shells and the French-made Caesar self-propelled howitzer since late February after Cambodian soldiers complained to the United Nations that Thai troops had used cluster bombs during clashes on Feb 4-6, said an army source.
Cambodian soldiers had collected samples of what they believed to be cluster bombs and showed them to the UN, said the source.
The Caesar self-propelled howitzer is usually used with "cargo" rounds that burst in the air into groups of multiple bomblets, but unlike the cluster bomb, these bomblets immediately explode on impact, said the source.
The cluster bomb is a munition that bursts into bomblets after being launched and these bomblets often lie dormant and could later explode, maiming or killing people or animals who happen upon it, the source said.
The army at first denied using a cluster bomb because it thought the term referred only to those dropped from aircraft, but the definition also covers ones fired from the ground if they later burst into multiple bomblets, said the source.
"But because some bomblets were duds, the Cambodian soldiers collected them as evidence to falsely accuse the Thai troops of using a cluster bomb," said the source.
"This claim is untrue because those bomblets automatically destroy themselves, otherwise the Cambodian troops would have been able to collect a far greater number of samples," said the source.
Normally, only a division commander would have had the authority to order the use of the artillery and its ammunition but at that moment the Thai troops had to respond immediately to the Cambodians' attacks to protect people living near the border, said the source.
"After that, a new order was issued that a request to use the artillery and its ammunition must be approved by the army chief first," the source said.
The Thai troops did not care if the weapons they used were cluster bombs, they just had to respond promptly as the Cambodians attacked Thai border villagers with artillery shells and BM-21 multiple rockets, the source said.
Army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha had already received a report about the M198 ammunition matter but his decision on whether the army should admit to using cluster bombs or keep denying it remained unknown, said the source.
In any case, Thailand was not among the countries that have signed the Convention on Cluster Munitions, banning their use, said the source.
Therefore, the source said, even if the Thai troops had used cluster bombs in the border clashes with Cambodia, it would not have contravened any agreement or broken any law.
The Cluster Munition Coalition (CMC) last week said the Thai ambassador to the United Nations in Geneva confirmed Thailand's use of 155mm Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munition (DPICM) cluster munitions at a meeting on Tuesday.
But Sihasak Phuangketkeow later denied that he said the Thai army used cluster munitions during the Thai-Cambodian border skirmish.
Mr Sihasak claimed he said the Thai army had actually used 155mm DPICMs, which it did not classify as cluster munitions.
He said the CMC misunderstood Thailand and was trying to pressure the country to accede to the Convention of Cluster Munitions.
16 comments:
I had read article I think dog siem army denied cluster bomb, but shit siem said that they shot 155mm with cluster bombs is not broken down int'l ban because they dont have any signature. thus, 100% dog army used cluster bombs in Cambodia. I support int'l community condemn dog Siem.
Yeb, the Siamese are very cunning indeed, and the same time they are definitely Confused race.
They are a Flip-Flop people; beware the Siamese dogs.
Preah Vihear Province, Cambodia
Siams soldiers yellow were tug, the were good on leeking.
Chea Dara, Deputy commander in Chief of RCG.
KAMPUCHEA KROM AT A GLANCE
Kampuchea Krom is composed of 68,965 square kilometers, 21 provinces and municipalities, two large islands - Koh Tral and Koh Tralach, 171 districts, 1,368 communes, 14,778 villages, more than 13 million Khmers, more than 567 Buddhist pagodas and more than 20,000 Theravada Buddhist monks.
99% of populations are Theravada Buddhists.
The Khmer kings, governments, regimes and citizens have never relinquish (give up) this part of their country to foreigners.
Kampuchea Krom has been under an ongoing colonial control since her division from motherland, Cambodia.
June 4, 1949 is the date that the Khmer Kampuchea Krom citizens grieve. The Khmer Kampuchea Krom people have organized Buddhist Service annually to honor the fallen Khmer Buddhist monks and heroes, who sacrificed their lives for Kampuchea Krom and Theravada Buddhism.
Colonial France divided, ceded and transferred Kampuchea Krom to colonial Vietnam on this date. The freedom of Khmer Kampuchea Krom has been mostly stripped by the Vietnamese ruling regimes and governments since. The French colonial administration committed injustice upon the more than 13 million Khmers of this beautiful fertile land.
Justice remains elusive for Cambodia, Kampuchea Krom and her citizens.
And...The struggle to regain freedom and human rights by the Khmers in Kampuchea Krom continues as long as injustice commits by the ruling Vietnamese regime(s) has not produced a fruitful result.
Koh Tral (Tral Island)
in Vietnamese - Phu Quoc island
circa 1939 Vietnamese encroached and conquered
Koh Tral Island has an area of 567 square kilometers; about 62 kilometers long and between 3 kilometers and 28 kilometers wide. The island physically is located closest to Cambodia's Kep seaside city. Visitors can see Koh Tral Island from the coastline of Kep. It is about a 30-minute motorized boat ride.
By Smart Khmer Girl, Ms. Rattana Keo
HE WHO BELIEVES THE THAI ARMY IS
BLIND, DUMB AND DEAF IS THE REAL BLIND DUMBO. THINK ABOUT IT, THE THAI ARMY HAS POWER OVER THE GOVERNMENT. DON'T YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENED IN SIAM WHEN THE MILITARY CHIEF DID NOT LIKE THE PRIME MINISTER? COUP D'ETAT RIGHT? I BELIEVE THE THAI ARMY USED THOSE
CLUSTER BOMBS PURPOSELY BECAUSE THEY LOOK DOWN ON ALL KHMERS AND
THE DUMMY HUN SEN IN PARTICULAR.
Koh Tral Island must not be forgotten
By Ms. Rattana Keo
Why do Koh Tral Island, known in Vietnam as Phu Quoc, a sea and land area covering proximately over 10,000 km2 [Note: the actual land size of Koh Tral itself is 574 square kilometres (222 sq miles)] have been lost to Vietnam by whose treaty? Why don’t Cambodia government be transparent and explain to Cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?
Cambodian armies are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 on the Thai border and what's about over 10,000km2 of Cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian armies you are decide the fate of your nation, Cambodian army as well as Cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?
Koh Tral Island, the sea and land area of over 10,000 square kilometres have been lost to Vietnam by the 1979 to 1985 treaties. The Cambodian army at front line as well as all Cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are Cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protecting a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group but disguising as protecting the Khmer nation?
The Cambodian army at front lines suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs, lack of foods, lack of nutrition and their families have no health care assistance, no securities after they died but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning system with message from young girls, have first class medical care from oversea medical treatments, they are billionaires, millionaires who sell out the country to be rich and make the Cambodian people suffer everyday.
Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that resulted in the loss over 10,000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why they are not being transparent and brave enough to inform all Cambodians and Cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't they include Koh Tral (Koh Tral size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen and bigger than Singapore [Note: Singapore's present land size is 704 km2 (271.8 sq mi)]) with heap of great natural resources, in the Cambodian education system?
Look at Hun Sen's families, relatives and friends- they are billionaires, millionaires. Where did they get the money from when we all just got out of war with empty hands [in 1979]? Hun Sen always say in his speeches that Cambodia had just risen up from the ashes of war, just got up from Year Zero with empty hands and how come they are billionaires, millionaires but 90% of innocent Cambodian people are so poor and struggling with their livelihood every day?
Smart Khmer girl Ms. Rattana Keo,
Ms. Rattana Keo is a bitch who love to sex younger husband and boyfriend at the same time. Threesome bitch! Fucking smelly big hole cunt. Fuck your hatred to Viet people. Fuck you, Fuck your mama too...and fuck your dada too...and fuck everything about you too
Stop racist toward Viet people. You are Hitler born to a woman body. All Viet people have an eye on you from now on. MOtherfucker bitch Cambodia has peace now. We don't need you to talk shit about your anti-Vietnam. Cambodian people love viet people like brother and sister.
Racist Bitch!
Why do the writer always uses the word "the source"? The Bangkok Post are the most biased writers and reporters ever. I dont think there is any "source" but the only source are the writers themselves and they're scared to use another party's name because they are the "source" who likes the wishy wash their words and make it seem like Thailand is the victim all the time. It's never Thailand's fault but Cambodia's, you Thais will die in hell and rot in your grave.
And for the last comment..FUCK VIET I HOPE YOU DIE SLOW!! They are the most racist people, especially towards Khmer. We let them live freely in Cambodia but Khmer Krom are suffering because of their communist government. They all should die and rot too!! Slimy,Ignorant,Racist WARTHOGS!! AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is Siem or Kmher stupid? Is Siem or Khmer weak?
if khmers had the cluster bombs.Will they use them?.
kppm radio (khmer people party mouvement radio has already started. Very good for all Khmer!
Hi guys,
Who want to F..k me, please come, but small penis is not welcome. Please don't confuse about I divorced my ex husband. The main reason is he has no skill and weak on the bed.
By Smart Khmer Girl, Ms. Rattana Keo
Who is Rattana Keo? It seems she is really itchy inside your body. If she needs fuck, please come to see Khmer soldiers near Preah Vihear Temple now.
6:45 AM
6:50 AM
go and get goo fuck whoever you are
you make every post on ki-media unreadable
6:45 AM
6:50 AM
another disturbed mind like chau bury on camdisc
to 4.27pm get koh tral and sea back to khmers and free khuampu chea krum than Ms. Rattana Keo wont post the same remainder again
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