Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Thailand-Cambodia Clash Deflecting Domestic Woes

Thai soldiers, in red berets, train defense volunteers to use the shotguns at a village near the Thai-Cambodian border in Surin province, northeastern Thailand. (Photo: AP)
Boeung Kak Lake protest and police violence in Cambodia. Was the border clash a diversion from these human rights violations?

Tuesday, April 26, 2011
By SIMON ROUGHNEEN
The Irrawaddy
Ou Virak, head of the Cambodian Center for Human Rights, said that the fighting “appears to be a cynical political ploy on the part of both governments to satisfy nationalist sentiment.”
BANGKOK — Since Friday morning, fighting along the Thai-Cambodia border has left 12 soldiers dead and forced the evacuation of thousands of civilians on both sides of the frontier. This comes two months after four days of fighting left 11 people dead at a separate location along the border.

The latest bout of shelling began at around 6 am on Friday along the border where Thailand's Surin Province faces Oddar Meanchey in Cambodia. Both sides blame each other for shooting first. Thailand says that Cambodia plans a ground offensive to take control of two temples, while Cambodia claims that its adversary has used chemical weapons and sent fighter aircraft into Cambodia's airspace. Both sides deny the respective allegations.

It was the first fighting since February 4-7, when 12 people were killed near a 900-year-old Hindu temple called Preah Vihear. The temple was built by the same Khmer Empire that constructed Angkor Wat, the world's largest religious structure. Angkor Wat draws around two million tourists per annum and sits near Siem Reap in Cambodia's northwest.

In 1962, the International Court of Justice put Preah Vihear inside Cambodia. However Thai nationalists dispute the decision, with tensions intensifying after the site received World Heritage site status in 2008. The Thai government says that the land around the temple has not been demarcated, and that the status of the temple cannot therefore be denoted until the land issue is resolved.


The current conflict is taking place around 100 miles west of Preah Vihear, and similarly revolves around sovereignty over temples and the adjoining land. The situation has apparently remained calm around Preah Vihear, site of previous fighting between the two countries.

The clash has sparked other controversies. Thailand was criticized for alleged use of cluster bombs—which are banned by many countries—during the February fighting. A campaign group called the Cluster Munition Coalition said it found unexploded ordinance inside Cambodia, near where fighting took place. Thailand acknowledged the use of cluster bombs in the February fighting, but said that their weapons were not among those covered by international agreements on cluster bombs.

Both countries are members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), currently headed by Indonesia. Jakarta's Foreign Minister Marty Natelagawa has sought to mediate between the two countries since the February clashes, but Thailand has been cool to Indonesia's offer to send impartial monitors to the border region.

Cambodia wants the Indonesians in place, but Mr Natelagawa canceled scheduled visits to Phnom Penh and Bangkok today without giving any reason. The fighting could overshadow the upcoming ASEAN summit in Jakarta in early May, when it is likely that Thai PM Abhisit Vejajjva and Cambodian counterpart Hun Sen will come face-to-face.

While the unresolved border row remains volatile, some analysts speculate that there are domestic political issues involved in the international dispute. Ou Virak, head of the Cambodian Center for Human Rights, said that the fighting “appears to be a cynical political ploy on the part of both governments to satisfy nationalist sentiment.”

Last Thursday, police in Phnom Penh beat protestors demonstrating against forced evictions, after around half of the 4,000 residents living close to Boeung Kak Lake in the city were driven from their homes to make way for a Chinese-backed property development project. Human rights groups say that the Cambodian government is trying to restrict freedom of association, not only by coercing protestors but by establishing a series of new laws for the establishment of NGOs and trade unions.

Cambodia's main opposition leader Sam Rainsy lives in exile in Paris and faces several jail terms at home. Charges against Mr Rainsy include accusing the country's current Foreign Minister Hor Namhong of membership of the Khmer Rouge, and allegedly publishing a false map of the Cambodia-Vietnam border.

Vietnam's Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung visited Phnom Penh over the weekend—while fighting continued at Cambodia's western border—for talks about trade and investment. Vietnam occupied much of Cambodia for the decade following its 1979 invasion, which removed the Khmer Rouge regime from power after four years of rule left around two million Cambodians dead. The four surviving Khmer Rouge leaders are due to stand trial later this year at the internationally-backed court set up to mediate war crimes.

Thaksin Shinawatra, Thailand's former prime minister and seen by many as the de facto leader of Thailand's opposition, is also in exile after fleeing corruption charges.

In late 2009, the Cambodian Government riled its Thai counterpart by offering Mr Thaksin a role as an 'economic advisor' and comparing the billionaire former telecommunications entrepreneur to Burmese democracy activist Aung San Suu Kyi.

Meanwhile, a brief lapse in TV signals last Thursday—the evening before the border fighting re-started—sparked new rumors about a coup in Thailand. Army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha denied that that a military takeover was being planned, with Thailand expected to hold elections during the coming summer.

Army leaders have warned politicians not to refer to the country's monarchy during the election campaign, and hit Redshirt leaders with lese majeste charges last week. This all comes less than a year after central Bangkok became an urban war zone, with Thai troops eventually over-running the two-month long Redshirt demonstration on May 19, 2010. Ninety-one people—mostly civilians—were killed during the two-month stand off, with little by way of information on who was responsible for the deaths coming from the Thai government in the intervening period.

Sodsri Sattayatham, a member of Thailand's Election Commission, said on Monday that the conflict between Thailand and Cambodia might affect Thailand's upcoming vote. While a date for the election has not been set, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejajjiva says he plans to dissolve parliament in early May, with an election to follow in late June or early July.

Paul Chambers, a military analyst at the University of Heidelberg, told The Irrawaddy that in both Cambodia and Thailand, the military and civilian leadership do not see eye-to-eye on border policy. He believes that in Cambodia “local army commanders were more pragmatic and willing to accede to a peace with their Thai military counterparts than was civilian Prime Minister Hun Sen, who has sought to fan the flames of nationalism to bolster his rule.”

In Thailand, according to Mr Chambers, the military leadership and nationalist factions are pushing a confrontational approach, with the army “unwilling to put up with any interference from the Thai civilian leadership—Abhisit included—with regard to Thai border policy.” However, Thai Army chief Gen Prayuth said earlier today that the military would adhere to the government's orders.

The People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD), or 'Yellowshirts', have called on voters to spoil their vote in the election, after previously suggesting a five year period of appointed government. The PAD continues to protest against the Thai government's handling of the border issue, saying that a more hardline stance is needed.

The latest PAD protest has drawn no more than 3,000-4,000 people so far—much reduced from the tens of thousands that occupied Thailand's Government House and Bangkok's international airports in 2008. Those demonstrations presaged the ousting of the government led by allies of Thaksin, who won the last Thai election held in 2007. That vote came in the year after Thailand's last military coup, which took place in September 2006, while then-PM Thaksin was attending a United Nations summit in New York, and after yet more Yellowshirt protests against Thaksin.

Thai Deputy PM Suthep Thaugsuban says that there is potential for a prolonged conflict on the border. Within Cambodia, a young population—with no memory of Cambodia's violent recent history—are “fiercely nationalistic and easily mobilized for war”, according to Emma Leslie of the Center for Peace and Conflict Studies in Phnom Penh.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

ou virak euy ou virak. You won't even be alive to talk about human right when the Thai sack Cambodia again like in the ancient past.

"political ploy on the part of both governments..."?

What do Khmer government stand to benefit from such conflict now? Any political point to be gained has been gained a long time ago with this issue on the part of Khmer. It's the Thai that still has much political game to play with this renewed fighting.

There is the rumor of coup by the military to take over in Thailand. This would serve as a legitimate basis for their takeover.

Listen to the rhetorics of the Thai military now. They are talking like a bunch of Bong Thom intimating Khmer now.

maybe ou virak can take his head out of his ass and see things for what they are in the real world for the rare occasion.

Anonymous said...

Thailand should use Cluster Munitions to pray on Hun Sen' Thugs!

Anonymous said...

IF THE FULL SCALE WAR ERUPTS THAI WILL USED F14 TOMCAT F15 EAGLE F-16 FALCON F18 HORNET TO DISTROY HUN SEN'S COMMNAD AND CONTROL CENTER AND HUN SEN'S BUNKER IN TUOL KRASANG AND CONTROL HUN SEN' AIR SPACE IN THE MATTER OF HOURS.

USED A-10 TO DISTROY HUN SEN'S SAM MISSILE SITES, T54-T55, ARMORED VEHICLES AND BM-21 POSITIONS.

USED 105mm, 155mm AND 175mm howitzer to fire and fire will
APACHE M1-A1/M1-A2 M60-A1 TO ADVANCE
AND TO DISTROY HUN SEN' REPUBLICAN GUARDS.

FAST ADVANCE 3 COLUNMS DIVISION FROM THE NORTH; 3 COLUNMS DIVISION FROM THE SEA TO PHNOM PENH AND ALL MILITAY KEY IN THE PROVINCES TO PUSH THAT KHMER-VIETMINH (hun sen)TO VIETNAM BORDER; THEN PUSH THEM TO END AT SOUTH CHINA SEA AND TAKE OVER CAMBODIA AND CHANGE OR INSTALL NEW GOVERNMENT.

Anonymous said...

Thai and Viet always colony khmer since the fallen of the khmerunity.

Anonymous said...

Var Kim Hong does recognize that Cambodia, if compared to the colonial Service Geographique de l’Indochine scale map 1/100,000 and the 1985 delimitation treaty, will loses 9,000 hectares; and compared to U.S Army Mapping Service scale map 1/50,000 with the 1985 Treaty, would lose about 7,900 hectares to Vietnam. This statement was confirmed by Var Kim Hong to Mr. Touch Bora Esq through a telephone conversation on 30 August 2002 at 4:30 p.m. (Sydney time), which Mr. Touch Bora Esq wrote in his letter dated on 9 September 2002 sent to Sam Dach Ta Noroudom Sihanouk concerning over border affairs.
In fact, the loss is absolutely more than the 1000 square kilometers stated by MP Sam Rainsy in his statement, if we add the size of the historical water of 30000 square kilometers awarded to Vietnam under the 1982 Agreement which has been into affect and now already become under the full control of Vietnam. And this would not be the last if the equidistance principle be used to delimit the maritime boundary, Cambodia will lose an additional area of sea and seabed measuring at least 860 square nautical miles from the Brevie Line to the north, analyzed by Mr. Touch Bora Esq or another 10000 square kilometers confirmed by Mr. Sean Pengse, the President of the Cambodian Border Committee Worldwide, which exclusively include another Koh Poula Wai to Vietnam added to the previous lost islands- Koh Tral (Dao Phu Quoc) and Koh Poulo Panjang (Dao Thu Chu).

This is why sVar Kim Hong said in front of Students´s Movement for Democracy (SMD), and Sam Dach Ta Norodom Sihanouk on 22 Janaury 2000 during our audience with him concerning the border resolution with Vietnam that; “If we want peace, we must sacrifice our flesh to the tiger.” The truth is discovered now that, “Sacrifice the flesh to tiger actually means cutting our land to the Viet.” This word was clearly spoken out from his mouth and there were Sam Dach Ta as witness and 31 members.

We must condemn this Var Kim Hong for his role in helping the traitorous regime of Hun Sen.

Smart Khmer Girl Ms. Rattana Keo,

Anonymous said...

Koh Tral Island must not be forgotten

By Ms. Rattana Keo

Why do Koh Tral Island, known in Vietnam as Phu Quoc, a sea and land area covering proximately over 10,000 km2 [Note: the actual land size of Koh Tral itself is 574 square kilometres (222 sq miles)] have been lost to Vietnam by whose treaty? Why don’t Cambodia government be transparent and explain to Cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?

Cambodian armies are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 on the Thai border and what's about over 10,000km2 of Cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian armies you are decide the fate of your nation, Cambodian army as well as Cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?

Koh Tral Island, the sea and land area of over 10,000 square kilometres have been lost to Vietnam by the 1979 to 1985 treaties. The Cambodian army at front line as well as all Cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are Cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protecting a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group but disguising as protecting the Khmer nation?

The Cambodian army at front lines suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs, lack of foods, lack of nutrition and their families have no health care assistance, no securities after they died but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning system with message from young girls, have first class medical care from oversea medical treatments, they are billionaires, millionaires who sell out the country to be rich and make the Cambodian people suffer everyday.

Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that resulted in the loss over 10,000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why they are not being transparent and brave enough to inform all Cambodians and Cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't they include Koh Tral (Koh Tral size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen and bigger than Singapore [Note: Singapore's present land size is 704 km2 (271.8 sq mi)]) with heap of great natural resources, in the Cambodian education system?

Look at Hun Sen's families, relatives and friends- they are billionaires, millionaires. Where did they get the money from when we all just got out of war with empty hands [in 1979]? Hun Sen always say in his speeches that Cambodia had just risen up from the ashes of war, just got up from Year Zero with empty hands and how come they are billionaires, millionaires but 90% of innocent Cambodian people are so poor and struggling with their livelihood every day?

Smart Khmer girl Ms. Rattana Keo,

wattanak said...

It is a worry for the Cambodian side when the volunteer militia in Thailand is better equipped and better dressed than the full-time Cambodian soldiers on the front line. Perhaps, some of the hundreds newly promoted Khmer generals can show their mettle by going to join the fight in Preah Vihare? Then again, pigs might fly, too!

Anonymous said...

2:57 PM

"the volunteer militia in Thailand is better equipped and better dressed than the full-time Cambodian soldiers on the front line."

apparently, you are either fucking blind or just plain too fucking stupid. Have you not seen a fucking pic from the front now, you fucker?

wattanak said...

6.20 pm,

Where did you learn to speak so eloquently? You're all class. You either need anger management classes, or you need to pull your head out of someone else's arse. Yes I have seen photos of soldiers at the front line recently. They have improved from the time of the first clash a couple of years ago, but they are still ill-equipped compared to their enemy. I was speaking comparatively, Einstein! Before, almost all of them had flipflops, or even bare feet. Now there are some with boots, and some still with Khmer Rouge issued sandals. Their guns are still old AK47s. So things improved for them since then. But has the improvement been enough to match the equipment used by the Thais? The answer is an emphatic 'No'! You would have to be blind to see anything else.

As for me being a fucker, I guess I am. Better than being a wanker like you.

Anonymous said...

we need to put all your sorry asses at the board and start shooting at anything