Monday, May 30, 2011

Referring Border Row To ICJ Not Tantamount To Asean's Failure

KUALA LUMPUR, May 30 (Bernama) -- Referring the border dispute between Thailand and Cambodia to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) should not be equated with Asean's failure to solve the issue.

Indonesian Foreign Minister Dr Marty Natalegawa said what was important was that the parties involved would solve the matter peacefully rather than resorting to violence.

He told reporters this at the 25th Asia-Pacific Roundtable here Monday.

The minister noted that the row had previously been brought to the attention of the United Nations Security Council and Asean, and now ICJ.

"But this doesn't mean that the diplomatic process has been exhausted, as various measures are being taken to solve the issue, including the legal process, diplomacy and others," he said.

The ancient Preah Vihear temple has been at the centre of the border dispute between Thailand and Cambodia.

In 1962, the ICJ granted the temple to Cambodia, but Thailand claimed much of the surrounding land.

Tensions mounted a few years ago following Cambodia's bid to have the temple listed as a World Heritage site.


Anonymous said...

The story of Preah Vihear temple disputed is no different then that of King Solomon and the baby story.
King Solomon wants to split the baby between two mothers to find the real mother! Of course most real mothers would never agree to split or kill their own baby! The real mother will show unconditional love and will not allow any harm to the baby and willing to give up everything for the sake of the baby!

As for Preah Vihear temple both Cambodia and Thailand claimed as their temple and both countries are willing to do anything to have the temple under their sovereignty.
But one thing is crystal clear is that Thailand is willing to destroy the Preah Vihear temple and there is evidence of Thailand shooting at least 400 artillery shells at the temple. If Thailand care so much about the Preah Vihear temple and why would Thailand want to destroy the temple in the first place? This is to show that Thailand is not a true guardian of the Preah Vihear temple!

As for Cambodia and Cambodian leadership have taken all necessary steps within their power to protect Preah Vihear temple and willing to accepting USNC recommendation and ASEAN leadership to solve the Preah Vihear temple issue! Cambodia is the true guardian of Preah Vihear temple!

Anonymous said...

of course not, this issue is already well known in cambodia and all over the world. asean just prolonged the case further, while UN will expedite it lawfully, really!

Anonymous said...

11:29pm, good analogy!

Anonymous said...

siems are thuggish!

Anonymous said...

siem thugs act like they haven't had enough of former khmer land and territories already, you know! if anything, it's cambodia that should demand all the returns of all our former khmer provinces and temples back to cambodia, really! icj should tell siem that to remind them not to forget that almost all of present-day thailand, laos, and mekong river delta areas were once a territory and land of khmer people of cambodia, you know! at least have the courtesy to honor and credit cambodian past history for that, really! knowledge the fact of history, ok! khmer history preceded all of thailand's, laos', and mekong delta region's to include koh tral's, etc, really! people must give proper credit to khmer people of cambodia, you know!if anyone has a saying in all of this, it is cambodia, to say the least, really!

Anonymous said...

All posters above,

How 's about the over thousands square kilometers Khmer eastern borders already encroached by Vietnam
with the accomplice of Khmer kings, like father like son, Hanoi rubber stamps ????

Anonymous said...

12:40 am, that's another case, don't be stupid to mix things up in the court, ok! don't you know the court system at all? stick with the topic, ok!

Anonymous said...

Vietnam probably hired Thai to stir up trouble at the eastern border.

Anonymous said...

12:40 Am
We want to hear your opinion about the Preah Vihear and not something else.
Sound you are working for Thai or a Thai slave enjoyed to serve the Thai. In case you are Khmer live in Cambodia or in Thailand, you are just another traitor.
I wanted, that the next generation of my family be call Khmer and not Thai or Viet.

Anonymous said...

actually, scam rainsy likes to stir things up in cambodia. we know how he operates, really! don't vote for scam rainsy, you know, unless you like chaos and the dark ages again, really!

Anonymous said...

The west door are closed, The east are wide-Open! All of the above comments.let find out the nature caused of the current dispute in between Cambodia and Thai,if we take a closer look at Cambodia's history we will see that the two countries which is the east as well as the west has never honest with Cambodia which mean Thai/Youn have always looking for the oportunity if they can swallow Cambodia within one day they will do it.
Let study some particulare point that caused current dispute about border and prasat preah Vihea etc. when Cambodia was in trouble with civil War in 1975-1979 and on Thai was the top Country in south east Asia with top economy growth particularly Tourist from allover the world that brought a big revenues to Thailand.

After 1983 to the present mosty Tourist turn back to Cambodia that mad Thai lost a lots of revenue that why they the same tooken Cambodia govenment has signed the memoradum in 2000 whih is called the white zone or double zone that mean the current govenment has open the door for Thai to reach it goal that is the reason that the dispute are going on right now.the Cambodia govenment should and must learn to accept it own fault othewidse, Cambodia will be devided by Thai and Youn in the sort future...

Anonymous said...

all cambodia's neighbors are opportunists, they always took advantage of cambodia at our weakest moment! just study history and one will see the trench. the court should tell these thug-like neighboring countries to stop stealing from cambodia and khmer people and to respect the law, etc, really!

Anonymous said...


LIST OF INSTANCES OF EXTRAJUDICIAL EXECUTIONS during 1997 coup by PM Hun Sen. These people with their name list below were murdered by PM Hun Sen.

• Ho Sok, 45, Secretary of State at the Ministry of Interior and second ranking FUNCINPEC official in the Ministry of Interior.
• 2-3. Gen Chao Sambath, alias Ngov, Deputy-Chief of the Intelligence and Espionage Department, RCAF Supreme Command since 1993
• 4 and 5. Maj. Gen. Ly Seng Hong, Deputy-Chief of Staff, RCAF General Staff (second highest-ranking FUNCINPEC official in the RCAF General
• 6. Colonel Sok Vireak, Chief, Transmission Bureau, Army General Staff. A former KPNLF General Staff officer in charge of military training who joined Nhek Bun Chhay after the Paris Agreements. Status
• 7. Colonel Thlang Chang Sovannarith, Deputy Chief-of-Staff of the Fifth Military Region, RCAF General Staff
• 8. Colonel Hov Sambath, Deputy-chief of Military Training Bureau, RCAF General Staff
• 9. Lietenant Colonel Sao Sophal, 42, an officer of the First Bureau of the RCAF General Staff.
• 10. Navy First Lt. Thach Soeung, aged about 30, an ethnic Khmer from southern Vietnam, stationed at Dang Kaum Navy base on the eastern bank of the Tonle Sap.
• 11 to 14. Seng Phally, Lt. Col. Chao Keang, Chao Tea and Thong Vickika - security officers working under Gen. Chao Sambath.
• Seng Phally, alias Huot Phally, aged 25, single, a gendarme who worked as chief of the security team at the Pipoplok 2 Hotel/Casino
• Lt. Col. Chao Keang, aged about 25. He was an officer in the Research and Intelligence Bureau of Chao Sambath
• Chao Tea, 29, brother of Chao Keang, a security guard at the Regal Hotel/Casino. His body bore a bullet hole in the left side of the chest and in the right side of the stomach. He was also handcuffed and blindfolded
• Thong Vicchika, aged about 27-28, a body-guard of Chao Sambath and a security staff at the Regal Hotel/Casino.
• Dr. Seng Kim Ly, a military medical doctor
• Major Lak Ki, Head of Operations, Research and Intelligence, RCAF High Command
• Four unnamed body-guards of Nhek Bun Chhay were summarily executed after his office-cum-house in Somnang
• Major Lak Ki, Head of Operations, Research and Intelligence, RCAF High Command
• Pheap, a body-guard of Major Lak Ki, in his late twenties
• Dok Rany, 27, an officer and body-guard of Gen. Chao Sambath who worked at the Research and Intelligence Bureau
• Ros Huon, aged 23, Sopheap, aged 25, two alleged members of the Gendarmerie
• Dok Sokhun, alias Michael Senior, a Khmer-Canadian journalist who taught English at ACE Language School in Phnom Penh
• Major Aek Eng (CPP), Head of Administration of Phnom Penh Thmei police station

Anonymous said...

• At least four, and possibly up to 22 persons described as FUNCINPEC soldiers executed and cremated in Pich Nil on 9, 10 and 11 July 1997 by Military Region 3 soldiers. Status: Confirmed executions in at least 4 cases
• 34 to 36 (and possibly 45). On 17 July, at about noon time, the body of a soldier was witnessed floating near the bank of the Tone Bassac near the Watt Chum Leap, in the village of the same name, Rokakpong commune, Saang district, Kandal province. The body was headless and both hands were tied up behind the back with a kramma. It was dressed in dark olive military uniform
• 37 and 38. Two unidentified men, blindfolded and with their hands tied behind the back. Status: Confirmed executions
• Pheap, aged 33, a bodyguard of the First Prime Minister. Status: Confirmed execution.
• Sok Vanthorn, 21 and Sou Sal, two villagers from Ampeov village, Kompong Speu province. Status: Confirmed execution.
• Brig. Gen. Chea Rittichutt, a founding member of the Moulinaka movement and the Governor of Kep-Bokor
• Navy officer Meas Sarou, Deputy-director, First Bureau, Navy, based in Chrouy Changvar, and one of his body-guards, and a third person, a woman named Luch.
• Ung Sim, Second Deputy Governor, Kompong Speu province - missing since his arrest, reportedly near Pich Nil by CPP soldiers on 7 or 8 July 1997.
• Col. Sam Sarath, Deputy Chief-of-Staff, Third Military Region
• Put Som Ang, male, aged 42, a KNP activisit in Siem Reap province, and Sam Sophan, 38, an activist in Takeo province
• Major So Lay Sak and Major Chin Vannak, officers working in the Logisitics department of the RCAF General Staff
• Som Taing, Deputy Chief, Inspection Office, Provincial Governor's Office, Kompong Speu
• Chum Sarith, Chief, Criminal Bureau, Provincial Police, Sihanoukville
Forty-six bodies were brought in and dumped at the crematorium of a Phnom Penh pagoda between 5 and 9 July
In the case of Ho Sok (executed on 7 July, brought to Watt Lanka on 8 July); of Seng Phally, Chao Keang, Chao Tea and Thong Viccheka (executed on 5-6 July and brought by the police to Wat Unalom on the morning of 7 July - see cases number 13-16 above) and in the case of a fifth corpse which was brought to the same pagoda on the same morning, but which could not be identified, the police ordered that cremation of the bodies be conducted without question and without proper cremation permit.
Between 9 and 11 July, according to a variety of reliable corroborating accounts, the bodies of 4 and probably up to 22 soldiers were alleged to have been executed in Pich Nil and burned
Plus many and many more names with lose count that order and executed by Hun Sen and CPP.

Anonymous said...

Koh Tral Island must not be forgotten

By Ms. Rattana Keo

Why do Koh Tral Island, known in Vietnam as Phu Quoc, a sea and land area covering proximately over 30 000 km2 [Note: the actual land size of Koh Tral itself is 574 square kilometres (222 sq miles)] have been lost to Vietnam by whose treaty? Why don’t Cambodia government be transparent and explain to Cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?

Cambodian armies are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 on the Thai border and what's about over 30 000km2 of Cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian armies you are decide the fate of your nation, Cambodian army as well as Cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?

Koh Tral Island, the sea and land area of over 30 000 square kilometres have been lost to Vietnam by the 1979 to 1985 treaties. The Cambodian army at front line as well as all Cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are Cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protecting a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group but disguising as protecting the Khmer nation?

The Cambodian army at front lines suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs, lack of foods, lack of nutrition and their families have no health care assistance, no securities after they died but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning system with message from young girls, have first class medical care from oversea medical treatments, they are billionaires, millionaires who sell out the country to be rich and make the Cambodian people suffer everyday.

Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that resulted in the loss over 30,000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why they are not being transparent and brave enough to inform all Cambodians and Cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't they include Koh Tral (Koh Tral size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen and bigger than Singapore [Note: Singapore's present land size is 704 km2 (271.8 sq mi)]) with heap of great natural resources, in the Cambodian education system?

Look at Hun Sen's families, relatives and friends- they are billionaires, millionaires. Where did they get the money from when we all just got out of war with empty hands [in 1979]? Hun Sen always say in his speeches that Cambodia had just risen up from the ashes of war, just got up from Year Zero with empty hands and how come they are billionaires, millionaires but 90% of innocent Cambodian people are so poor and struggling with their livelihood every day?

Smart Khmer girl Ms. Rattana Keo,

Anonymous said...

Var Kim Hong does recognize that Cambodia, if compared to the colonial Service Geographique de l’Indochine scale map 1/100,000 and the 1985 delimitation treaty, will loses 9,000 hectares; and compared to U.S Army Mapping Service scale map 1/50,000 with the 1985 Treaty, would lose about 7,900 hectares to Vietnam. This statement was confirmed by Var Kim Hong to Mr. Touch Bora Esq through a telephone conversation on 30 August 2002 at 4:30 p.m. (Sydney time), which Mr. Touch Bora Esq wrote in his letter dated on 9 September 2002 sent to Sam Dach Ta Noroudom Sihanouk concerning over border affairs.
In fact, the loss is absolutely more than the 1000 square kilometers stated by MP Sam Rainsy in his statement, if we add the size of the historical water of 30000 square kilometers awarded to Vietnam under the 1982 Agreement which has been into affect and now already become under the full control of Vietnam. And this would not be the last if the equidistance principle be used to delimit the maritime boundary, Cambodia will lose an additional area of sea and seabed measuring at least 860 square nautical miles from the Brevie Line to the north, analyzed by Mr. Touch Bora Esq or another 10000 square kilometers confirmed by Mr. Sean Pengse, the President of the Cambodian Border Committee Worldwide, which exclusively include another Koh Poula Wai to Vietnam added to the previous lost islands- Koh Tral (Dao Phu Quoc) and Koh Poulo Panjang (Dao Thu Chu).

This is why sVar Kim Hong said in front of Students´s Movement for Democracy (SMD), and Sam Dach Ta Norodom Sihanouk on 22 Janaury 2000 during our audience with him concerning the border resolution with Vietnam that; “If we want peace, we must sacrifice our flesh to the tiger.” The truth is discovered now that, “Sacrifice the flesh to tiger actually means cutting our land to the Viet.” This word was clearly spoken out from his mouth and there were Sam Dach Ta as witness and 31 members.

We must condemn this Var Kim Hong for his role in helping the traitorous regime of Hun Sen.

Smart Khmer Girl Ms. Rattana Keo,