Khieu Moeun, 61, a former KR soldier in Ta Sanh Cheung village, Samlot district. PHOTO BY: Sebastian Strangio |
The pagoda in Ta Sanh Cheung village that was bankrolled by former KR navy commander Meas Mut. PHOTO BY: Sebastian Strangio |
A street scene in Ta Sanh Cheung village. PHOTO BY: Sebastian Strangio |
Many former Khmer Rouge fighters say they are worried that the U.N.-backed tribunal will start to cast a wider net.
June 21, 2011
Sebastian Strangio
Global Post
Since his KR days, Meas Mut — now a hunched man with thinning, ash-grey hair — has reinvented himself as something of a Buddhist patriarch, bankrolling the construction of a new pagoda in the village and showering local villagers with sagely aphorisms. (“If you give someone happiness other people will give you happiness back,” he said). It is a strange — maybe cynical — turn for a senior member of a regime that banned religion and put tens of thousands of Buddhist monks to work in massive labor camps.
SAMLOT, Cambodia — On June 27, at the war crimes tribunal in Cambodia’s capital Phnom Penh, four former leaders of the Khmer Rouge regime will finally face the music.
More than three decades since the regime’s fall, former KR foreign minister Ieng Sary, head of state Khieu Samphan and minister of social affairs Ieng Thirith, along with “Brother No. 2” Nuon Chea, are being tried on charges of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity for their role in the 1975-79 regime, which led to the death of an estimated 1.7 million Cambodians.
Coming on the heels of last year’s conviction of Kaing Guek Iev (alias Duch) for his role in the deaths of up to 16,000 people at Phnom Penh’s notorious S-21 prison, the trial holds out the promise of justice long delayed.
But hundreds of miles away in Ta Sanh Cheung, a small village along the Thai border, the trials have proven a tough sell. The hamlet lies in Samlot district in Cambodia’s west, a former stronghold of the KR movement. Residents here, many of them former communist fighters, say they are worried that the U.N.-backed tribunal will soon start to cast a wider net.
Tith Ron, a 59-year-old former KR soldier who joined the movement in the 1970s at the age of 19, defended the regime’s actions, and criticized instead the American carpet bombing of Cambodia in the late 1960s and early 1970s.
“The Americans killed more Cambodian people more then Pol Pot did,” he said, referring to the regime’s “Brother No. 1,” who died on the Thai border in 1998. “If they want to sentence us they should also bring the Americans, because they dropped 7 million tons of B-52 [munitions] onto our heads. We were Cambodians saving Cambodians — how can they sentence us?”
Locals were particularly worried after recent radio broadcasts named an elderly local resident as a war crimes suspect in the tribunal’s potential third case. The man named was Meas Mut, the former commander of the KR navy, who defected to the government in 1999 in return for a cushy military post and a peaceful retirement in Ta Sanh Cheung.
Along with Sou Met, the ex-head of the KR air force, leaked court documents accuse him of the torture, killing and the forced labor of tens of thousands of people under the regime. A 2001 paper by historian Stephen Heder and legal expert Brian Tittemore said the pair played a direct role in the arrest and transfer of purged cadres to S-21 prison, where many were subsequently tortured and killed.
Meas Mut’s home stands at a quiet end of Ta Sanh Cheung village, a three-story wooden structure topped with satellite dishes. On a recent Saturday, he was asleep in a hammock strung up over a wooden platform outside his home, his mouth hanging open and one leg dangling over the side. A book of Buddhist parables lay on a nearby chair, a slip of paper marking the page. Discarded skins of the rambutan fruit lay in a pile on the planks below.
Since his KR days, Meas Mut — now a hunched man with thinning, ash-grey hair — has reinvented himself as something of a Buddhist patriarch, bankrolling the construction of a new pagoda in the village and showering local villagers with sagely aphorisms. (“If you give someone happiness other people will give you happiness back,” he said). It is a strange — maybe cynical — turn for a senior member of a regime that banned religion and put tens of thousands of Buddhist monks to work in massive labor camps.
However, Meas Mut flatly denied any involvement in mass atrocities, saying his responsibility was to protect the country’s coast from foreign invasion. “I was a lower officer who was willing to protect Cambodia’s independence and neutrality, and prevent Cambodia from being controlled by foreigners. I was not a Khmer Rouge leader,” Meas Mut said, fashioning home-grown tobacco into a stubby facsimile of a cigarette.
“If I did bad I couldn’t sleep here in a hammock. Somebody might throw a stone at me or sometime might take a knife and kill me. But I am living in safety.” Despite being banned by the KR, he added, Buddhism continued to live on “in his mind” under the regime.
Locals described the accused war criminal as a “good Buddhist” and a patriot who pedals advice about everything from farming and business to spiritual matters. Another former KR soldier, Toch Pha, 54, said villagers were angered by the accusations against him. He said, “If they come to arrest him we will not allow them to take him out of the village.”
But whatever the evidence against him, Meas Mut will probably never see the inside of a courtroom. In recent months, the tribunal — known officially as the Extraordinary Courts in the Chambers of Cambodia (ECCC) — has been plagued by suspicions, internal rifts and a flurry of resignations over the issue of whether to pursue the case against Meas Mut and Sou Met.
Critics have accused judges of moving to quash the case, known as Case 003, which has long been opposed by Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen, who last year told visiting U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon that indictments beyond the current case were “not allowed.” Observers say Cambodian judges on the hybrid court have parroted Hun Sen’s line, calling into question the court’s independence.
The issue came to a head in April when the ECCC’s two co-investigating judges — You Bunleng of Cambodia and Siegfried Blunk of Germany — announced the hasty completion of their investigation into Case 003. Critics say the judges conducted a perfunctory probe as a prelude to burying the case.
“The judges have a duty — it’s not an option — to investigate,” said Theary Seng, a human-rights activist and victims advocate. “They have failed in their duty to investigate and they have failed to inform the public.” The co-investigating judges have also remained silent about Case 004, a further case involving three mid-ranking KR officials.
The tribunal’s credibility continues to ebb. Four Western legal staff from the investigating judges’ office have reportedly resigned over the handing of Case 003, with one of them describing the atmosphere in the office as “toxic.” There have also been calls for an official U.N. investigation into political interference at the court.
Though Geneva has rejected the call, asserting the ECCC’s continued independence, observers say the court’s credibility is on the line.
“It could be incredibly significant,” Anne Heindel, a legal adviser for the Documentation Center of Cambodia, which researches Khmer Rouge history, said of the Case 003 controversy. “If the court is seen as not fulfilling its procedure — as not adhering to the rules — then it will taint the entire process, including Case 001 and Case 002. There’s no way you can separate Case 003 out from what’s come before.”
While Hun Sen may squash the possibility of further trials, Theary Seng, who blames Meas Mut for the death of her own parents during the Pol Pot regime, said such an outcome would compromise the current case and deepen the cynicism of ordinary Cambodians.
“It’s not surprising he should deny his role, but he can’t deny the weight of evidence. He can’t deny the testimonies that run into the tens of thousands,” she said of Meas Mut. “There’s no magic number as to how many should be prosecuted and should be indicted. But the current five are not sufficient for the crimes that took the lives of 1.7 million Cambodians.”
13 comments:
AT the end, HELL is waiting for you all Murderer Khmer Rough dog. You killed innocent people kids, women and men. Another war is awaityou. You all will pay the price. You are now very dirt poors and the Court will be put in jailed. thanks to your leader Pol Pot!
if you are khmer soul do not worry about khmer rouge court .khmer rouge court tract down who was master mind to kill khmer people . we do not need another war to kill each other .HUN sen may be involved the killer that he always said if oo3 or oo4 case reveal to khmer rouge court ,mean another war ,so HUN had money and yuon network to work with this war happen .
Kdee Koe Nhet.
they shouldn't be afraid because cambodia now have law to protect all khmer people and citizens. they are not guilty until proven otherwise! anyway, i think people who are knowledgeable and know about history or about cambodia etc, should help our country to shed light and educate the younger generation about what happened or shouldn't happen or shouldn't allow to happen in camobdia. it's an educational endeavor for all of younger khmer generation and the world as well. i think it shouldn't be a threat to former KR officers, instead, it's about education and learn and sharing knowledge with everyone. yes, cambodia has changed due to our past history, albeit infamous. let's all learn and share our knowledge, etc in order to improve and better cambodia for all to enjoy and future generation to avoid and learn from, really! i think there shouldn't be a place for fear in cambodia anymore because khmer people from all walks of life have experienced it and lived through it all, so it is time to start afresh as time move on, really! people are getting older and wiser now, it is time to teach or pass on the knowledge to the next generation without fear, evil ambition, cruelty, etc..., really! wake up already!
that's right if you threat people, they wil be scare, but if you ask them for their cooperation, the will be willing to help; that's the nature of human being, don't you know that already!
(don't be worry) . If you are strong commender , army , navy , you don't worry just small court in pp . you need show to all cambodia you don't have nothing , normally cloth , normally food, ... living like cambodia.
i don't think these former KR military officers were killers of khmer people then, it was the ignorant village people and the ignorant, vindictive, revengeful people out there that did most of the killing of cambodia and our khmer people, you know! most former KR military officers then were professional and love camobdia. it was the ignorant people with no education with their hatred and revengefulness, etc, that did most of the killing of people in cambodia, you know! that's the truth, just ask any khmer people who survived the KR atrocity and they can tell you the honest truth, really!
plus, it was the lawless society or state of cambodia of that time that also contributed to the killing and injustice of khmer people under the stupid KR rule, you know! got to look at everything that played a role in bring the KR to power, too. lawlessness was sure one aspect of it all as well as many other contributing factors, you know!
MR. TITH RON,
I HAVE THE FEELING THAT YOU ARE VERY PROUD TO BLAME THE AMERICANS THAT DROPPED THE BOMBS ON THE KHMER TERRITORY.
MR. TITH RON, YOU MUST KNOW THAT DURING THE FULL SCALE OF WAR IN VIETNAM THE AMERICANS USED THEIR RIGHT TO FOLLOW & KILL THE VIET CONGS AND THE NORTH VIENAMESES WHO TOOK REFUGE INSIDE CAMBODIA.
DO YOU KNOW WHY THESE VIETS HAD SAFE HAVEN IN CAMBODIA?
THE ANSWER IS: "YOUR SAMDECH EUV" ALLOWED THEM TO CROSS THE BORDER TO CAMBODIA. THEREFORE SIHANOUK MUST BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF MANY KHMERS AS WELL.
Tith Ron, a 59-year-old former KR soldier in Samlot who joined the communists four decades ago, said the US should held accountable for the carpet bombing of Cambodia before any Cambodians are put on trial.
I totally agree with Tith Ron. Only American to be blamed for genocide, for destroy Cambodia and her people. Death to US policy toward Cambodia. Now US washed her hand and turn that nothing had happenn to Cambodia.
By help Khmer to resettle in US, US hope that be able to get some credit but by comparison to Viet Cambodian in US is small and some face deportation to Cambodia by US cruelty policy to Cambodian.
it was sihanouk who allowed the vietcongs to use khmer land and territories to conduct their guerrila war against the american and american supported forces in the then south vietnam. and cambodia did not care about south vietnam so the US supporting the then south vietnam is what cause sihanouk to let vietcongs use cambodia to attack them. you have to understand why khmer people hated the south vietnamese or vietnamese or youn in general. the reason has a strong historical reason, simply, youn stole and occupied khmer koh tral island and the former khmer territories of the mekong river delta. so any foreign gov't who supported the south vietnamese got no khmer people support, especially under the then sihanouk control regime of sangkum reastr niyum. so, it was the US supported the south vietnam, and cambodia and khmer people of that time were not loved nor fond of the south vietnamese, thus they allowed the vietcong to use cambodia to attack south vietnam and its american ally of that time, of course! so, one can blame the america, blame sihanouk, etc, but the truth was cambodia hated the south vietnam, so when american supported the south vietnam, cambodia naturally reacted to that by allowing vietcong to use cambodia to attack the south and their american ally then, really! so, american then were angried as a result, and ended in the coup attempt of sihanouk, then installed the pro-american corrupted lon nol gov't, then from there on, all hell broke loose that resulted in the KR took over power in cambodia, thus the killing fields, lawlessness, etc, etc... you see! it was simply khmer people resented the lost of mekong delta area and especially koh tral island to vietnam, so khmer people will never support the thieves who stole from cambodia and khmer people, you know! anyway, i hope that shed some light on the situation that led to the KR took power. and of course, sihanouk was helpful at that time due to his personal revenge, resentment, rebellious nature, etc, etc... you see, the world has to understand the root of the conflict. there were lots of clues or hints that led up to the KR did what they did during their reign. sihanouk blame the south vietnamese gov't and their american supported regime then, while american military blamed sihanouk in return for allowing the vietcong to use cambodia to attack the american military, thus from there, the US did the carpet bombing of cambodia that led up to the KR resentment, etc... all politcs stuff, if you ask me, really!
who paid the price? it was cambodia and the so-called 2 plus million khmers died under the KR rule! sad, but true! all the result the next door war in vietnam that known as the vietnam war. unfortunately for cambodia we were next door to south vietnam. if thailand were next door to south vietnam then, i'm sure thailand would be in the fate like cambodia. see thailand was a luckier nation due to their geographical location away from that so-called vietnam war, you know!
No need approval by Sihanouk, Viet infiltrate to Cambodia territory at anythime they want.
Viet infiltrate along the Viet-Khmer border but US bombed entire country, more than 500, 000 Khmer died during bomb campaign this is not included injured, toxic, people became mad due to the effect of the bomb.
These bomb created hatred toward American thatwise KR so strong.
American should make compensation to Khmer and her property destroyed by American bomb, $60,000 for one person killed and $60, 000 per property destroyed then Cambodia can live in peace.
American donation to Cambodia are just to pay and employed her own people and admin. Cambodia poor still exist. Please donot say Hun Sen corrupt, no one is going to stop American give straight to people.
sihanouk and most khmer people hated and not trust the south vietnamese which then was supported by the american military. so sihanouk who was in charge of cambodia at that time give ok to let vietcong use cambodia to fight against the south vietnamese with their american supporters, of course. you see, when you supported khmer people's enemy, the youn, you get no khmer support nor cooperation, etc, thus as a retaliation, the american carpet bombing cambodia, and the all hell broke loose from there on. cambodia became mad, resentful of american military campaign in cambodia, thus turned to support the KR who wanted to fight the american because of the bombing of cambodia. i mean, khmer people thought the KR were khmer and supported them, but what we didn't know then was the KR were ignorant, uneducated, hateful, revengeful, etc (at least their supporters and recruiters were)! anyway, it all ended up with KR took over cambodia and the killing fields began, thus the destruction of cambodia and the death of over 2 millions innocent khmer victims, etc... i mean, the UN tribunal should take into consideration the events that led up to all of this, too, you know! can't just ignore historical fact, here, really! otherwise, it is no more than a biased court of law, which goes against justice and thus cheating the khmer victims, you see! the people in charge of the stupid KR regime were mad and resentful people then, so they recruited the ignorant and the uneducated to make up the killing spree that went on under the fanatic, backward or stone age policy of the stupid KR regime. it was all about hatred, revengeful, resentment and so forth, you see! and if the court ignorant all of these signs, then the court is not doing any justice for the khmer people, cambodia and the KR victims, etc, etc, really!
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