Monday, July 18, 2011

ICJ's Map of Provisional Demilitarized Zone

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Good decision!

Better care for losses to Viet Nam.

Anonymous said...

Most of the Khmer people thought Thai invaded CAMBODIA.

How about the Viet, what are they doing in Cambodia?

Which country is taken over Cambodia right now?

Why Cambodian are so blind, deaf, and scare by the CPP and Vietnamese rules?

Why are Cambodian always complaining about the Thai invasion but never mentions about the Viet take over Cambodia?

Anonymous said...

Because Thais are stupid. If Thais are smart, they would help Cambodia to kick Vietnam ass.

Thais don't understand that once Cambodia is annexed by Vietnam, Thailand will be next!

Anonymous said...

Simple answer all Cambodian people like to live as slavery. They teach their children not to be dare or brave, take care their life even though they are slave.

Cambodian people are nowaday scare of dying they don't want to be hero, their moto is live as slave better than die try to protect their Country from Vietnam or CPP.

CPP and Hun Sen know these very well.

Khmer Circle said...

It would be interesting to see how this Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) is mapped in relations to the Franco-Siamese boundary line of 1904/1907 and Thailand's unilateral map.

This DMZ is primarily one of the indications of provisional (temporary) measures by the Court to prevent further damages being done to the Temple as a result of military activities in the area pending its clarification of the 1962 verdict which will spell out the Court's stance on the boundary issue one way or another.

If Thai troops are not in the DMZ, there is no need for Cambodia to station military personnel within that zone either, except security personnel required to safeguard tourists and visitors to the Temple.

It is a positive sign for Cambodia that the Court unanimously rejected the request by Thailand that Cambodia's case be removed from the General List. This appears to indicate that the Court clearly believes it has a mandate to help resolve disputes between states and also an obligation under its relevant Statutes to clarify or reinterpret its 1962 ruling. Its decision is also final and not subject to further appeal.

This decision on provisional measures may fall somewhat short of what Cambodia seeks from the ICJ, but its effect is to pile more pressure on Thailand to face up to its responsibility before the international community whilst giving the Khmer temple of Preah Vihear the best possible chance to be spared from any more irreparable damage until the Court's next pronouncement (assuming that is, Thailand and Cambodia both comply with the indications made by the Court).

Had the Court instead indicated that Cambodia could station her military personnel within her 1907 boundary including having troops at the Temple ground or its immediate vicinity, the Thais would then be under no real pressure to refrain from firing or shelling in the direction of the Temple complex, inflicting further damages to the site under their pretext of due self-defence! Cambodia also has nothing to gain from engaging in military confrontations with Thailand provided Cambodian sovereignty remains free from Thai military or political occupation.

Note: the Temple site falls just inside the DMZ. This does not mean that the Court has acceded to Thailand's dispute claim over the area surrounding (or underneath!) the Temple because it had already ruled once that the Temple located on Cambodian sovereignty.

Of course, not being a legal specialist myself, it would be interesting to hear better informed opinions on this subject.

Anonymous said...

8:04 PM

Thanks for your idiot ideas, Cambodia side known as Hun Sen gain in polical as well as promote his son to be the 4.5 stars general and also to creat illision from Vietnam invasion.

Hun SEn tries to redirect all Cambodian people attention only focus on Thai side but not Vietnam side.

Do you understand now stupid idiot ? A lot of Cambodian people are idiot like you that is why Hun Sen still rule the country over 30 years and Vietnam is keeping in take Cambodia areas.

Anonymous said...

8:04 PM

Don't worry boy! Not Just You Idiot, 99.99% Cambodian people are idiot like you. Why? the answer is simple look at Cambodia size is keep getting smaller and the Cambodian people are know as "Just Risen Up From The Ass Of War"

Who is to blame ? -->> Cambodian people themself is to blame for!!!

Anonymous said...

To 8:50 PM,

Just reading your comment and the way you wrote and think, it's proved beyond doubt to me that you--not the commenter at 8:04 PM--are not just the real idiot but way less educated than the 8:04 PM poster. Shame on you!

To 8:04 PM, I'd commend you for sharing your thoughful well-written opnions.

PL

Anonymous said...

9:08 PM

You kiss ass for living that is no doubt but that is OK because most khmer people are kissing ass for living at Cambodia and at oversea like you.

Hun Manet will be 4.9 starts (Hun Sen 5 starts) General Of Cambodia soon as more Cambodian people like you!

Idiot Moron!!!try to educate me about his believe..

Anonymous said...

9:08 PM

You can be an idiot moron too, Sir!

Anonymous said...

Excellent decision by the ICJ. Cambodia can develop the temple as tourist site with the help from WHC. On top of it the ASEAN observers will be on the new DMZ assuring stability and peace needed for the protection of Preah Vihear and develop it as the true world heritage. Pending the final decision on the demarcating border line, people on both side of the border can breathe peacefully. That's human right in itself! For the Viet, yes I don't think that we can recover 100% of our territory (181035 square km), but neither do I think that HS can do more than Pol Pot or Lon Nol in 1970. For the time being, it is already a victory if we can preserve what we get right now. It is good to talk about taking KKrom or Koh Tral as political tool. But walk the talk could not be that easy. Maybe with economic development and the next educated Khmers of the next generation, our wishes may have a better chance to fulfill

Anonymous said...

Thank you PL @9:08 PM for your just intervention.

Anonymous said...

it is provisional dmz. the 1907 map is what the court will look into next as that was the official map, not thailand's unilateral map to make up dispute with cambodia, you know!

don't worry, cambodia, the law is on our side! god bless cambodia and all our beautiful khmer people and citizens.

ps: the court is not based on emotion of the human beings, it is based on the rule of law i.e. the law, the existing law, that is.

Anonymous said...

The International Court of Justice must also rule on the Vietnamese encroachment into the Eastern part of Cambodia as well.

Anonymous said...

3:48am, to answer your concern, have in place a strong immigration law in cambodia! that should alleviate our khmer concern for illegal viet/youn encrouchment on the eastern side, ok! do it by rule of law is best for cambodia and smart and clever, too, you know!

Anonymous said...

To: 4:16 AM

That's a good idea, but impossible with CPP government, since they are just a puppet government controlled by Vietnam, and there are a lot of Vietnamese people / agents in the CPP and current Cambodian Government.

Your idea will be effective if we have a new independent and sovereign govrnment.

Anonymous said...

my dear, if you stop being selfish, stop using the race card and focus on the right thing to do which the rule of law society, and stop picking a fight, instead focus on pushing for reforms, work as a team, etc, then i believe it is possible. it's all in attitude, my dear. please think clearly. if hun sen is really a vietcong puppet, then i'm sure all khmer people in cambodia will see to it, not us people overseas, my dear. i'm sure majority of khmer people love and care for cambodia as much as you and i do, so we cannot assume something that is unfounded or that is now only in the history book, really! did you actually talk to the khmer leaders or did you just assume they all are vietcong puppets? are you sure? now don't tell me just because once upon a time, they used vietcong to oust the stupid, killer KR regime, doesn't mean after 30 years plus they are still that same way, now if you assume that, than i think you are isolated and not keep up with the situation in cambodia too well. you got to give our khmer people the benefit of the doubt, afterall, we can see the many positive changes in cambodia already, don't tell me you are a little jealous of hun sen policy's success in cambodia! there's no reason to be jealous here, really! otherwise, you are not doing a service to cambodia and khmer people. they say action speaks louder than words, so true. imagine if you were in power in cambodia after the fall of the crazy KR stupidity, could you handly all the critcism bombarded at you? believe it or not, sometimes, cambodia can use a strong individual like mr. hun sen to keep people in line, you know how it is in cambodia, it's all about the bad attitude this or that. don't tell me you are hypocritical. i mean it in a good way. why don't you wait until you win an election to apply your policy. now you policy may not please everyone in cambodia as well, really! then what are you going to do about that? can't take the critics? well, that says it all about being hypocritical. don't take it personal, it is actually not about you or i, it is about cambodia and khmer people, you know. thanks for your interest. god bless cambodia always.

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Anonymous said...

I take my hat off for all Cambodia's Political Parties and people that care about Cambodia, its people, its future, its sovereignty, its teritorial integrity, its overall developments Cambodia wide, its stopping of all forests destructions, its illigal land concessions to overseas interests, or Cambodian front companies acting for overseas' interests that cause the evictions of Cambodia's farmers Cambodiawide, the deforestations of Cambodia, its poverty reduction Cambodia wide, its fight against corruption and its full implentation of the 1991 Paris Peace Agreements, its controle of illigal immigrants, and the cancellation of the visa free arrangement to stop the influx illigal immigrants into Cambodia.

Thank you all concerned that work in our Cambodia's National Interest.

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