“Nam Tien” and Indochina’s First Genocides against Cham and Khmer populations
My Son "traditional" Cham dance Vietnam
NB: To help cool off some of the heat generated by this article, KI Media [sorry, School of Vice] decided to post a video clip of 'traditional' Fan Dance of "ethnic Cham people" in Vietnam. Also to ensure some of our Vietnamese 'brothers' stay entertained whilst assiduously monitoring and distracting KI Media instead of condemning human rights violations of every manner committed against the peoples of Vietnam of all ethnic origins, a traditional Vietnamese opera aria or song is reproduced above, with thanks to Bayon TV!. Need translating? Don't ask School of Vice; ask Mr Heng Soy! [School of Vice]
(Heng Soy's translation of the song above. Sorry to butt in!)
“It is thought that the majority of Chams were killed, driven off, or assimilated by the Vietnamese. Chams still exist today as an ethnic minority in Vietnam — though its number is relatively small (about 40,000) in comparison to the 30,000 Cham families in the eleventh century.”
Vietnamese "volunteers" in Cambodia during the 1980s. Military incursions by Dai Viet [Vietnamese State] into neighbouring countries had been a constant thread throughout Vietnamese history. “In the 1978 border war with Cambodia, the new socialist government of Vietnam used the Khmers as an advance column in their invasion into Cambodia.” |
Crowd-friendly Vietnamese cops armed with batons trying to keep festival goers in line at a traditional Khmer ox race event in Cambodia's former territory of Lower Cambodia [Kampuchea Krom] |
“To be sure, however, the Nguyen’s colonial[ists] did displace the local populations of the Chams and the Khmers, whose “displacement but not replacement” is still today not assured.”
“Like the Chams, the Khmers were also “discredited” of their role in developing the commercial areas near Saigon. Their contribution to the Vietnamese vocabulary and phrases is often overlooked. This is also true regarding their religious practices, which the Vietnamese have adopted, including elements of Theravada Buddhism. Other cultural borrowing from the Khmers includes agricultural implements and foods, medicines, and different areas of arts.”
In Vietnamese history, a theme that transcends across time and space is the advance or the march to the south (“nam tien”). The southern advancement, as noted by Michael Cotter, is unique in that “it transcends the different periods of Vietnamese history – pre-Chinese, Chinese, independent, colonial, and contemporary” in which each has “its own theme.” [1]
As discussed in earlier blogs, Chinese colonial diasporas had both indirect and direct effects on the southern advancement.
For Vietnamese, they have been “victims” of Chinese colonial diasporas — being physically, psychologically, culturally, and intellectually displaced. However, as noted by other scholars, the “Vietnamese will to [in]dependence was too strong,” there must have been “a special Vietnamese collective identity of some sort,” [2] and the “harmony between the Vietnamese . . . and their environmental conditions has proved to be so deep that no race has been able to resist their advance.” [3]
Simply, Vietnamese have always maintained their relationships with the collective memory and myth about their birth place and never more passionately than when displacement and disunity was imposed by foreign rule.
However, Vietnamese collective will to resist had to be modified because of Chinese military power in which resistance had to include strategic form of borrowing and localizing ideas of foreign powers in order to make and strengthen local cultural statements about its “Vietnamese cultural core.”
Cultural borrowing came from both north and south. And until late in the 14th century, Buddhism had acted as a common ground between Vietnam and southern states of the Cham and Khmer, during times of both peace and war; for instance, Vietnamese prince who married Cham princess and the Vietnamese Buddhist monk who practiced Indian asceticism. [4]
Vietnamese, on the one hand, were successful in localizing external influences in which what were borrowed were considered essential and integral to the culture at that particular time. But such situation sometimes was inevitably imperfect and had led to tension and stress within the society on the other. [5]
This was the case, when after repelling the Ming invasion (1407-1427), the Le emperors began to adapt the Ming Chinese model and began to transform ideologically, bureaucratically, and militarily.
This transformation enabled the Vietnamese state (Dai Viet) under the Le dynasty (1428-1524) to stabilize its southern and western frontiers. But in doing so, the conviction in the essential unity of their territory and people and cultural relativity began to take dual form or multiple forms (or even change character).
The External Expansion of Dai Viet
The transformation of Dai Viet was, in part, the result of its population becoming a specialist in wet-rice cultivation, which fostered “the trade, population growth, and resource concentration that promote state power and societal expansion.” [6]
Importantly, the state began to adapt the Ming Chinese model.
For example, it took on the Chinese ideals of bringing ‘civilization’ to the ‘uncivilized,’ which were applied to its relations with Champa and the Khmers. It also adapted Chinese meritocratic civil service examinations as the method of recruiting educated talent to service the government. [7] Moreover, Dai Viet had acquired gunpowder technology from China, although Vietnamese also had contributed to Chinese gunpowder technology by locally producing better techniques such as the wooden wad and possibly a new ignition, which was then exported to China. [8] Arming itself with new gunpowder technology, Dai Viet’s large and well-organized military force was able to achieve its military ends more easily than before. [9]
Indeed, under the Le dynasty, the Vietnamese state began to transcend its displacement and, according to one opinion, gradually developed into “a bigger hegemonist,” conceiving themselves as superior to all other peoples in Southeast Asia. [10]
But probably more accurate is that the transformation of Dai Viet changed the balance of power in mainland Southeast Asia. Yet, that balance was tenuous and was hampered by the eventual rise of two separate entities with two different representations of “what was a good Vietnamese.”
Notwithstanding, as a result of the above transformation, Dai Viet, on the one hand, were able for the first time, since independence, to stabilize its southern and western frontiers. But Dai Viet also took advantage of its new capabilities to end its conflicts with Champa over areas (that of Quang Binh, Quang Tri, and Thua Thien) where the two mingled since the fifth century.
Between 1361 and 1390, Champa, under Che Bong Nga’s rule, conducted an interrupted series of victories against Vietnam, including the sacking of Vietnam’s capital of Thang Long several times and were able to retrieve Champa’s old northern provinces that it lost earlier in 1301 through a marriage alliance that did not endure. But after Che Bong Nga’s assassination in 1390, Champa had to hand back the provinces to Vietnam, yet these areas were still contested until the fifteenth century. However, in 1471, the Dai Viet’s military force appeared to have overwhelmed the Chams. One thousand Dai Viet warships and 70,000 troops captured Champa’s capital of Vijaya. According to Vietnamese source, more than 30,000 Chams were captured and over 40,000 were killed. In part, the fall of Champa in 1471 was due to the fact that it did not have access to firearms. [11] Thus, the year 1471 marked the rise of Dai Viet.
Vietnamese had by then conquered the northern part of Cham country, as far as the southern border of today’s Binh Dinh province. However, Cham kings continued to rule from this region, although less autonomous then earlier Cham kings. In addition, however, there were southern Champ polities, including a fourth Cham region (Kauthara) located near present day Nha Trang, which had been a part of Cham country since the beginning of Cham history.
On Vietnam’s western borders, Tai peoples were actively crossing Vietnam’s western borders, causing a series of conflicts between the two. But by the late 1470s, Dai Viet was able to claim Tai hill territories, bringing the Tai ethnic groups in modern Vietnam. [12] Taking advantage of its military technology, Dai Viet also pursued aggressive actions against Thai and Laos principalities. Its armies marched as far as the Irawaddy River in modern Burma. [13] As a result, by the early 1480s, kingdoms of northwestern mainland Southeast Asia, such as the Laotian kingdom of Lan Ch’ang and Thai principality of Ai Lao sent tributes to the Vietnamese capital.
In sum, the purpose and scope of Dai Viet’s external expansion was initially to stabilize its southern and western frontiers, of which had been militarily contested throughout the centuries without a clear winner, at least until 1471. Its external expansion was dynastic in nature, which was clearly reflected by the reign of Le Thang Tong (1460-1497) who sought to stabilize his state by securing its borders to prevent any repeat of foreign invasions, such as the Ming invasion of 1407-1427. The degree of success in stabilizing its borders, as well as going beyond its borders, was, in large part, due to the unilateral-monopolistic timing, as put forward by Frank Darling. [14] That is, Dai Viet’s external expansion occurred because of a “power vacuum” in which Dai Viet with the new gunpowder technology and under a more bureaucratic state were able to exert power in the region, limited by the available resources and the stability of the Le court.
Vietnam, however, did not develop a permanent colonial phase or colonial diaspora until the beginning of the sixteenth century. Even though Vietnam was active in acquisitioning Cham lands, it occurred at long intervals. In occupying Cham lands, the Le emperors would appoint frontier military governors with the rank of viceroy (kinh-luoc), but would also retained Cham officials in the administration in some regions. The purpose and scope of Vietnamese military and penal colonies were to consolidate their gains, to provide support for expeditions, and to relieve population pressures. [15]
During this period, Vietnamese rulers did not pay much attention to the specific matter of expansion into Champa, until the arrival of the Nguyen lords who eventually sought a southern autonomous state, separate from the northern state under the Trinh lords.
The Nguyen’s Colonial Diaspora
Vietnamese southern expansion or colonial diaspora under the Nguyen family can be described as a frontier movement, originating because of political and military unrest and conflicts at home; and expanding through military conquests, treaties, and “most difficult to document, colonization by transfrontiersmen.” [16]
In 1524, when the Le emperors were usurped by the Mac family, the Trinh family and Nguyen family both professed their loyalty to and attempted to restore the Le emperors. However, after the restoration of Le in 1592, the Trinh family gradually acquired all the important posts at the Le court so that the Le emperors were reduced to being “nominal” rulers. [17] Meanwhile, the Nguyen family saw the Trinh as usurpers and decided to officially break with the Trinh in 1600 and return to Thuan Hoa (modern Hue), where years earlier they were emplaced by the Trinh to establish control over the southernmost frontiers. Between 1627 and 1672, the Nguyen lords were able to defend Trinh’s expeditions, as well as defending Cham’s reacquisition of its former territories. By 1672, Trinh lords, whose militarily failures to defeat the Nguyen left them weakened, agreed to a division of the two states at the boundary of the Linh River. This resulted in a relatively stable coexistence of “two Dai Viets” for a little more than one hundred years.
The Nguyen, despite having a smaller population with a smaller number of trained officials, accordingly adjusted their organizational structure and localized themselves to their new geographical terrains and frontier influences, including redeveloping trading centers, absorbing local populations, and interacting with foreign merchants.
For example, in the former Cham territories, one of the key characteristics of the Nguyen administration was the use of Chams and of lower-class Vietnamese. It also redeveloped the commercially oriented society center in Hoi An, which had been pioneered by the local Cham population who still constituted a key component in the labor and basic patterns of the region’s trading center after the Vietnamese takeover. [18] Unlike the traditional northern economy, the Nguyen’s economy had a “fundamental basis in foreign trade.” [19] This attracted Vietnamese immigrants, as well as Chinese refugees who fled from the Manchu dynasty, arriving at various times in present day areas of Hue after 1636, further transforming the Hoi An region “into its now recognizably Vietnamese form.” [20] Moreover, from its contacts with foreign merchants, the Nguyen state was able to arm itself with modern weapons provided by Portuguese merchants, which assisted them to defend the Trinh expeditions as well as to continue the expansion of its control farther south.
As noted by recent works in Vietnamese historiography, in the Nguyen, we see a new version of being Vietnamese. Although these works tend to describe the Nguyen as breaking or escaping from the past and from the ancestors in order to create ways of being Vietnamese, [21] it is probably more accurate to say that the Nguyen was not rigid in conforming with the traditional culture in the north, which led to a more open, multiethnic society with emphasis on foreign trade.
“. . . since the early 1620s Khmers were gradually displaced and were pushed out of their villages into Cambodia or into marginal lands near the sea; and by 1780, the Vietnamese controlled most of the southern territories that comprise present Vietnam. During the 18th century, military colonies were used to expand in this region, which settled disputes between Khmers and encroaching Vietnamese, although in the favor of Vietnamese settlers.”
This was true for both the central areas and the Mekong Delta areas. In the latter, Vietnamese had moved into southern plains by the early 1620s, due the political and military vacuum left by the declining Khmer kings. By this time, the Khmer court based in Phnom Penh was faction ridden and was subservient to Siamese (Tai) influence. This allowed the Nguyen to exert its influence in the Khmer court, including the marriage of a Vietnamese princess to a Khmer king in 1620. Three years later, the Khmer king granted permission for Vietnamese immigrants and traders to move into the areas, culminating in 1689 the establishment of a viceroyalty over the provinces around Saigon (Cotter254). [22]
Compared to the central areas, the Nguyen saw the Mekong Delta as more extensive and fertile for growing rice. It also used this area to utilize captured Trinh soldiers and lower class immigrants from the north to settle and develop this area. Chinese immigrants also had important role in redeveloping this region’s trading center. As a result, this region was ethnically pluralistic. From one perspective, these individuals and groups found southern Vietnam as a land of promise, where they could make a fresh start. [23] For instance, captured soldiers were expected to clear the land in which they were given farm implements and food to eat. So in several years “they could produce enough for their own needs,” and after twenty years after “their children can be soldiers of the country.” [24]
To be sure, however, the Nguyen’s colonial[ists] did displace the local populations of the Chams and the Khmers, whose “displacement but not replacement” is still today not assured.
A common perception is that the institutional weakness of Cham society, “a weakly institutionalized state system that depended upon personal alliance networks to integrate a fragmented population,” had sealed its fate. [25] Yet, the Chams were never easily conquered. In fact, it may be the same decentralized system that allowed the Chams for centuries to contest and stir rebellion against the Vietnamese. Despite the Nguyen’s presence in the Cham territories since the 1550s, it was until 1611 that Cham territory of Kauthara (modern Nha Trang) disintegrated and not until 1771 that Panduranga-Champa (modern Phan Rang) fell. However, over the centuries Cham society could not withstand the Vietnamese advancement, sometimes in “massive convulsions or in fits and starts.” [26]
It is thought that the majority of Chams were killed, driven off, or assimilated by the Vietnamese. [27] Chams still exist today as an ethnic minority in Vietnam — though its number is relatively small (about 40,000) in comparison to the 30,000 Cham families in the eleventh century. To some degree, because the Nguyen’s purpose and scope of its colonial diaspora were of political and economic domination “with less concern about Cham social and religious life,” Chams were able to retain some of their culture, including their language, religious beliefs, matrilineal kinship patterns, and the practice of non-intensive rice growing. [28] And often overlooked or discredited is the contribution of Chams in the Hoi An region as international trade center. It is very likely that “Vietnamese immigrants encountered the well-established patterns of behavior of the peoples who preceded them and very likely continued to live alongside them.” [29] For instance, Vietnamese had been shaped by the Cham maritime logic in rebuilding Hoi An, learned to grow rice in terraced land, adopted local Cham deities such as Po Nagar, took up a form of Siva worship, lived in Malayic-style stilt houses, traveled in Cham-style boats, tilled with Cham plows, buried their dead in Cham-style graves, and practiced piracy and barter in slaves. [30]
Similarly, since the early 1620s Khmers were gradually displaced and were pushed out of their villages into Cambodia or into marginal lands near the sea; [31] and by 1780, the Vietnamese controlled most of the southern territories that comprise present Vietnam. During the 18th century, military colonies were used to expand in this region, which settled disputes between Khmers and encroaching Vietnamese, although in the favor of Vietnamese settlers. [32] In the 1978 border war with Cambodia, the new socialist government of Vietnam used the Khmers as an advance column in their invasion into Cambodia. Like the Chams, the Khmers were also “discredited” of their role in developing the commercial areas near Saigon. Their contribution to the Vietnamese vocabulary and phrases is often overlooked. This is also true regarding their religious practices, which the Vietnamese have adopted, including elements of Theravada Buddhism. Other cultural borrowing from the Khmers includes agricultural implements and foods, medicines, and different areas of arts. [33]
Source: University of Houston
226 comments:
1 – 200 of 226 Newer› Newest»There are NO real Cham in Vietnam they are Yuon. They are put on the SHOW. Real Cham are in Cambodia. Cham in Cambodia are never forced to marry Khmers, unless they prefer to, like Princess Marie Eng Norodom Ranariddh.
Princess Marie even if she divorced Prince Rannaridh her title Prince remains, because the royal decree given to her, and no King can take it away from her including the King who elevated her to HRH Princess Marie.
Asmath Komari (Cham of Cambodia)
More than 200 indigenous group has vanish only 80 left.
North Vietnam govt and South Vietnam govt used Cham and Khmer Krom to
fight each other.
During 1970,Vietnam govt used Chams
to fight with Khmer Rouge.So Yuon
govt always used these two ethnic
groups to kill among themselves.
In 1979,Vietnam govt still used Chams and Khmer Krom to kill
Khmer Rouge and Khmer people.
Khmer must stop Vietnam govt to
use these two ethnic groups to
kill each other.
Be brave and kill Vietnamese back.
Run! Run! my daughter Run!
http://khmerkrom.org/eng/?q=node/131
7:06 AM,
Cool it you fool! People may just tell you to take your so-called freedom of speech and shove it up your god damned fucking mother's ass and call it their freedom of speech too! How's that for a freedom of speech, huh?
Just a reader
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Re: Regarding the Vietnamese, they have been at the center of Asia for thousands of years and will always be there in any foreseable future. Further, as they keep advancing in population, economic and cultural developments, so will their military superiority and influence over nearby landscapes. China will not be able to take VN back as a province, not in the modern world, against their fierce nationalism, strong will power, and intellectual capacity. Learn to live and deal with it!
This 4:36 AM sounds like one very very cocky and pompus Viet!
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7:06 AM meant to say freedom of speech the jungle men’s way.
HUNTED LIKE ANIMALS
You sounded like one already 4:36 AM, just by saying "Hey idiot" off the bat...An intelligent/educated person would not talk that way for an argument while referring to it as "freedom of Speech"...
Hope this helps YOU not to be one!
Run! Run! my daughter Run, Mum I'm in da cage. If we come out-they kill us. how can I?
HUNTED LIKE ANIMALS
I wholeheartedly recommend this documentary both for its strong message and for its skillful cinematography... Alexander Nowak, German Consul, New York
HUNTED LIKE ANIMALS
4:36 AM
Why is my comment considered by you (Yuon() as an idiot? I knew about Chams my own kind more than you (Yuon) the invaders. Cham people in Vietnam are not real Cham, mostly are Yuon put on Show, because Yuon are afraid of being known as annihilators of Chams. It is in history a Yuon named Le Thanh-tong ordered to kill and burn all Chams, some alive he forced Chams to marry his animal Yuon invaders.
These Chams as Yuon put on Show are not real Chams, it's Yuon strategy to blind the world.
Yuon are fierce (savage) in fighting? Who the hell are you? Prophet from hell? God is cleaning his earth, so Yuon will be destroyed by Chinese, God is working through Chinese to destroy the satin Yuon from the planet so they won't go fuck around.
Asmath Komari
The dumb Khmer kings were too generous to their neighbors (Thai, Viet and Cham) by allowing them to seek shelters in Cambodia when they had problem in their countries, and that was one of the reasons Cambodia has been shrunk.
Another reason when the Viet fought among themselves the weaker faction hunted for new territories for expansion from the neighbors. But when the Khmer fought among themselves the weaker faction sought help from the neighbors by ceding lands to them.
Also the dumb Khmer kings were busy playing gods by helping their neighbors fighting their neighbors. They helped the Thai fighting the Burmese, the Viet fighting the Thai and vice versa. Those kings should take advantage on their neighbors while they were weak like the Thai and the Viet did.
But no, they wanted to be Preah Va-eh Sandor instead, and now all we have left are our Kdor Ba-ey.
7:06 AM
You are purely "Yuon" that is why you pissed off. Proofs are recorded in China's Ming shi annals that the barbarian Le Thanh-tong killed and burned almost all Chams, the little left over already married to the Yuon invaders, and the bastard Ngo Dinh Diem was about to exterminate them all, but his luck ended before he could kill them, he was shot to death while trying to flee.
The most horrifying thing that animal Yuon carry their genocidal policies against Cham people.
I am Muslim and all my billion Muslim around the world will someday take back Champa.
I don't care what your Yuon said, only my GOD I trust and He will destroy your bastard Yuon from my country.
8:46 AM,
Hey Dumb Yuon, are you coming back, huh? You are so Dumb Fuck Yuon in the world. Most Dumb Yuon nation are the most ugliest dog eaters in the world. The friends of the world will spit in Dumb Yuon dog eaters like you like crazy.
You dare to call my Khmer people bad name, I am going to spread your Dumb Yuon every where in the U.S. and around the world.
Dumb Yuon dog eaters, when are you stopping call my Khmer people bad name again, Dumb Yuon Killers and Theives like you, Dumb Yuon.
Fuck all Dumb Yuon killers everywhere. I will have my angry buddies to yell at Dumb Yuon like everywhere.
Hey Dumb Yuon @8:46 AM, put your ugly ass over here and have innocent dogs fuck your Dumb Yuon ass so hard until Dumb Yuon ass split apart and then dogs will eat Dumb Yuon.
Can not stand with all Dumb Yuon folks who are the killers. Wanna kill Dumb Yuon badly.
Except from the KR era the Cham in Cambodia have their full and equal right as a Khmer citizen. But the Cham in Vietnam even their names are Vietnamese let alone on having other freedoms
9:09 AM
Khmer Rouge killed everybody, so it does not count as annihilators as Yuon did to Chams Champa. Le Thanh-tong applied his genocidal policies against Chams to kill all, and some left were forced to marry Yuon. Ngo Dinh Diem was about to finish Chams what left over, but God didn't help him so he was shot to death.
Yuon kept a few Chams that mixed with Yuon to entertain the tourists and saying that Yuon care and help Chams.
In California Yuon-Chams have their own website called
http://www.ilimochampa.org/histoty01.htm
Within this group there Yuon who pretend to be Chams to make sure Yuon-Chams cannot be exposed to other news and they were told that Yuon are saviors and that Khmer Rouge were the one who annihilated Chams and Yuon.
Now many Yuon have website and pretend to be Chams preaching to real Chams to hate Khmers said that they were victims of killing fields and even further encouraged Cham to rise against Khmers to take back Cambodia, Yuon said Cambodia was part of Cham country too. I knew because I am Cham and I observed many Yuon Blogs.
I never trust Yuon, the more I read and knew about the Yuon genocidal policies of Yuon against Chams.
9:30 AM, there were many hidden Yuon/Vietnamese cadres among Khmer Rouges. Some people did not accept that the hidden Yuon/Viet agents inside Khmer Rouges killed millions of Khmer citizen, Cham as well as ethnics in Khmer Land, but the evil Yuon killers have been playing the trick to commit crime in the blind eyes of people and gullible people. Yuon folks are not a good people. Yuon folks/killers pretend to be nice to poor people and then turned their cruel ways to kill innocent and poor people such as Cambodian/Khmer, Cham, Hmong, Hill Tribes, and so on.
Yes, evil Yuon killers have played the big roles to cheat and used Khmer Rouges as the scapegoat when bad Yuon/Viet folks secretly killed innocent Khmer people in Killing Fields. Yes, they spoke Khmer languages and they have black teeth that innocent people noticed so well.
Is this the history? If it's really the History of Vietnam, we must read it as a HISTORY, that i means something to learn from and not to hate.
Learn what the Viets was doing, why were they doing? and WE Khmer What we were doing and why we lost our territory?
In the human world, there are always competition between people and countries. It's the NATURAL LAW. The weak ones, the stupid are eliminated by the strong and the clever one.
Blame ourselves instead of blaming others for what we had loss and learn lessons from the others. It's the only way to defend our remaining land. Stop behaving as racists and change our attitude and behavior to build and make our Country strong.
Only strong countries can make real "friends" with neighboring Countries.
A Cambodian student
11:14 AM
You tell yours and leave me Cham alone. Chams don't change the name and why Yuon are scared of being called Yuon? Yuon is their real root.
You're a Cambodoan student and I am a Cham professional in the US.
I knew my own history and I knew Yuon history too well. I won't change it, Yuon is always Yuon to me and to my Cham people.
Don't try to use race card with me after Yuon annihilated almost all my people?
11:33 AM
Cham didn't change their names, but the Viet made them changing their names.
Do you have any Cham left in Vietnam whose name is similar to yours, Asmath Komari?
the current hun sen regime is more stupid than chey cheta2, look at the 99 years lease of border land to yuon for plantation. i can tell let them have it. it won't be returned for sure. what an idiotic dog hun sen . this cpp leaders should be lined up and shot for treason.
kampuchea krom 2 in our eyes, live. not many khmers cqan see this.
In the last few centuries, Khmer people have suffered heavily because of Vietnam's ambition trying to swallow Cambodia.
In order to make its goal materialize, Vietnam has initiated all kinds of trouble with Cambodia.
For example, in the last 50 years, which event that Khmer people suffered without Vietnam's involvement? If Vietnam is not in the front scene, Vietnam would stay behind the scene to generate turbulence in Cambodia.
So, to combat this evil nation Vietnam, we must strengthen our morale and find a way to provide the proof to the international communities, especially the International Court of Justice, about Vietnam's criminal activities against Khmer people, making Vietnam accountable for its ill acts.
For instance, the K5 project which imposed by Vietnam in Cambodia in the 80’s, resulting of hundreds of thousands of Khmer people dead, is a typical case that we should use as the first concrete step to make Vietnam pay for its evil deeds.
Vietnam has done horrible things to Khmer people, but we have never done anything to make Vietnam pay for it. That is why Vietnam kept doing bad things to Cambodian people and currently implementing its colonization on Cambodia.
The 7 January 1979 was the day that Vietnam executed Ho Chi Minh’s plan of annexing Cambodia.
hun sen needs to go! thousands of khmer from all walks of life and from every corner in the globe would come and help rebuild Khmer Nation! I just bought two puppies. I named them Hun Sen and Sihanouk.
សូមជំរាបសួរ
ចង់សំភ្ជាប់ជាលិងមិត្តផងបានទេបាទ?
សួមអរគុណទុកជាមុនបើអាច
សីម
Ah Kantorb 1:33 PM should shut its mouth.
To 1:33PM
Thank you for pointing that out that the Khmer and the Cham-Khmer is a bunch of losers and dirty roaches! Well...At least the Khmer have proved that the Domino theory expansion of Communism in taking over Southeast Asia is false! What happens to the Vietcong communism ambition in Southeast Asia was death in Cambodia long time ago! The more the Vietcong dig themselves in Cambodia and the more they will bury themselves in Cambodia!
The Viet are entitled to their own stupid opinion about the Khmer who they can't conquer! But the Khmer must have their eyes on the AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave and from now on to the end of time and AH HUN SEN Vietcong must know and must understand that he can't stop the will power of the Khmer people and the Khmer Krom people to be free from the Viet oppression!
Time is on the Khmer people side!
Hey Fuck off Dumb You 1:33 PM. Stop being so hypocrite and so dumb to lie every fake Yuon story, showing off the dumb Yuon brain to brainwash anyone to kill other. Dumb Yuon, all of Yuon heads will be cut of on the planet.
This Dumb Yuon @ 1:33 PM should beaten up to death one of these days. The friends of the world will spit into this Dumb Yuon @1:33 PM face like. This Dumb Yuon @1:33 PM must have to chipped with axes and knife.
Many Dumb Youn killers and thieves are the most evil animals in the world.
Hate Dumb Yuon killers and thieves badly. Dumb Yuon folks in the U.S. and around the world should be thrown with the stones and rocks at them like hell.
Hate Yuon killers so much that they should be dead right now.
Islam folks hate Dumb Yuon killers and thieves, too. Don't forget, Dumb Youn bastards.
Indochina Federation as follow:
1. Cham gone.
2. Prey Norkor gone.
3. Kampuchea-Krom gone.
4. Lao gone.
5. Cambodia ( or Kandal Khmer ) being swolled.
5. Thailand next.
Hey Dumb Yuon @3:10 PM, your head will be cut off by Islam folks. You are the most stupid person who dare to support on Dumb Yuon.
Did you marry to Dumb Yuon pussy or Dumb Yuon animals, Dumb Yuon who pretends to be Khmer.
How dumb are you, trying to make Khmer (Dumb Yuon) fight with Khmer (real Khmer citizens).
Fuck you, Dumb Yuon @3:10 PM. When are you bring yourself to be chopped off into peace to let the dogs eat you as return.
Stop be ridiculously nice and faking yourself as Khmer, fucking Dumb Yuon.
Words Dumb Yuon is going to spread out in CA, NYC, and everywhere around the world, Dumb Yuon are the real Killers and Thieves.
Islam people will hear that Dumb Yuon killed Cham people( Islam people) and took Chmpa off the map.
Be careful, Dumb Yuon @3:10 PM, watch your stinky mouthpiece on Khmer people and stop be so dumb to be smart animal.
You, Dumb Yuon @3:10 PM, gets caught that you faked yourself to be Khmer, making Khmer [Dumb Yuon who speak Khmer] fight with real Khmer. Watch some YouTube about Yuon beat up Khmer being Khmer [Yuon] beating up their Khmer.
Put your Dumb Yuon hole and ass for the Hyenas to fuck you harder until your scream like hell.
3:10 PM, Don't believe you, Dumb Yuon [faking Khmer]. Put your finger into your Virgina and Ass! No white and Khmer men want you, Dumb Yuon [fake Khmer].
Keep call Khmer people bad names. You are going hit back with Dumb Yuon anywhere around the world. Got it, Dumb Yuou faking Khmer.
3:10 PM, yes, this Dumb asshole doesn't know what this Dumb idiot is talking about, excuse anyone as Khmer, CPP, who did not like Dumb Yuon and CPP. This dubm @3:10 PM are confused like Dumb Yuon. You are the one are the laziest and ugliest Dumb Yuoun like an animal killer or dog killer. Always act like the stupid and dumb educator yourself.
Stop being so smart ass like Dumb Yuon gook in Cambodia.
If you continue to call Khmer bad name again, you are named the laziest and dumbest Yuon killer and thief hiding in Cambodia.
Don't remind us, hidden Dumb Yuon in Lon Nol, CPP, Sihanoukist, Khmer Rouges.
Your mouthpiece with words "Dumb Khmer" put down individual Khmer or all Khmer, you are the one who is Fake Khmer to be the most hypocrite Dumb Yuou on here.
3:29 PM, DUMB Khmer, did you enjoy fucking your mum's pussy before she was killed in the Pol Pot regime?
So did you read what i wrote in my last comment, about the Champa Kingdom?
Khmer Empire shifts from Hindu to Buhhdists, our Champa were once also Hindu then Buddhists, it was only in recent years in the last centuries, they converted to Islamic.
If you want to debate about the Champa Kingdom, then I am open. But dont talk about fucking your DUMB Khmer mum's stinky pussy holes before the YOUN decapitated her head.
Only in your dream, lets try to stay away from talking about your mum's stinky pussy holes, maybe talk about why the uneducated Vietminh is still in power and why you are doing NOTHING. Deal?
Khmer people,
Don't worry about call Vietnamese "Dumb Yuou" because we need to give them [Yuon] warning of sign anywhere around the world "DUMB YUON KILLERS AND THIEVES" in Cambodia and Southeast Asia region.
Khmer people, please don't be so soft to Dumb Yuon and don't let them live in peace. Dumb Yuon will go to the hell.
Dumb You @3:10 PM will be struck by the lighting and went to the hell. We don't need this dumb @3:10 PM to call Khmer people bad name again.
LOL, the first time to read the post call you Dumb Youn who is the one insulting Khmer people. How hypocrite this dumb 3:10 PM is. Many posts with words Dumb Yuon for this 3:10 PM, Dumb Yuon who is useless. LOL.
This Dumb idiot 3:10 PM is lying again.
3:47 PM, No, not learning from Dumb Yuou bad mouth and mean words on Khmer people. What kind of Dumb Yuou teacher are you, Dumb Yuou pussy?
We Khmer people, know that. There is no need of your stupid words of Dumb Khmer to each them.
Dumb Yuou, go away. We don't need you.
You scare Khmer people with the following:
-9 millions YOUN in Khmer Krom,
-95 millions YOUN in Vietnamese
-and 5 millions YOUN in Khmer.
-dumb Khmer
-beyond.
You are making illegal Yuon bloggers in Cambodia, Communist Yuon readers from Vietmam and other democrat countries READ your posts.
Then you are the one who empower Dumb Yuon killers and thieves to look down on Khmer people who are small. How stupid are you? Are you blind enough to bring the Dumb Words to look down on Khmer.
You are the one who is the Dumbest Yuon predator on here. Your head will be cut off any time in person. If you are Khmer and mention words "Dumb Khmer", then you are not Khmer. Got it, Dumb Youn?
Khmer bloggers here are smart enough to figure out your stupidity and selfish.
We will not stop call you Dumb Yuon or Dumb Yuou. OK, Dumb Yuou @3:47 PM?
Don't be such a stupid and dumb Youn animal and so mean.
4:01 PM,
May Lighting strike you, Dumb Youn @4:01 PM.
We are not soft to Youn or Dumb Youn, but we are strong and tough to fight back to save Khmer people and Khmer land.
We know that you are still calling Khmer bad name and we are watching your words. OK, we are not stupid not to let Khmer people down.
Be careful, Dumb Yuon.
3:10 PM
Why would you blindly claim that you know everything and others don't?
Most of Communist leaders of Vietnam this day are so corrupted and they're sold to China.
China, Thailand and the US knew already that the Vietnamese army is hidden inside of Cambodia.
You may want to read the real history through this Young Turks' site and come back brag some more.
http://janecadhlanews.blog4ever.com/blog/index-462157.html
Tom
Hey dumb Yuon @4:01 PM, we know you are very dangerous to Khmer people.
We are watching out on you, Dumb Yuou@4:01 PM with your words "Dumb Khmer", and bad mouthpieces on Khmer people, watching out on your poisonous words.
Dumb Yuon @4:01 PM, let's us say this, if we are on the Vietnamese website like Ki-Media, we can post the comment similar to your comments to make Yuon/Vietnamese fight with their Yuon/Vietnamese. So, that the world will know that Vietnamese killed their own Vietnamese people. Unfortunately, in Communist Vietnam, there is no freedom to express freely just like Ki-Media and such. So, Vietnamese Communist government or authorities block the websites like Ki-Media, not allowing the arguments or fighting words on the words there. You got it, Dumb Yuon?
3:41 PM,
Dumb Yuon @3:41 PM, all we want is you need to put your finger inside your Dumb Yuon pussy hole and enjoy! Stop bagging too much, Dumb Yuon.
Khmer people are not dumb and some innocent and good Vietnamese folks are against you who are so rude to call innocent Khmer people Dumb Khmer people. Some of innocent Vietnamese [ethnic Khmer] folks are not proud of being Vietnamese or Yuon.
You are only one is a Dumb Yuon.
4:58 PM. I am Khmer, i already told you that. But unlike you DUMB Khmer i dont blame the YOUN. I have also heard you DUMB Khmer calling many Khmer you dont like or cant agree with as YOUN.
For example CPP. We all know that Hun Sen and Hor Nam Hong are Vietminhs, but those working under him are not all YOUN or Vietminh. (and NO, DUMB Khmer, I dont work for the uneducated Vietminh, hahaha try something else)
4:32 PM. DUMB Khmer I know about the censorship in Vietnam. That means you DUMB Khmer should be lucky that you are able to access KI media to spread your hatred and useless nonsense (yet, still LAZY and still doing NOTHING).
4:19 PM. Tom, I dont know everything and I am still learning. Today I learn that these DUMB Khmer still believes in magic and lighting strikes!!
I was trying to teach these DUMB Khmer some history about the Champa as it seems the main topic seems to have went off track. But these DUMB Khmer seems less interest about the past history, more interested in evil YOUN this evil YOUN that. These DUMB Khmer hasnt learn any new words at all, still the same DUMB Khmer since the Pol Pot regime!
I suspect these DUMB Khmer are more or less former Khmer Rouge or KPPM supporters, aka, Pro-Khmer. Now lets focus on the real problems (my nationality isnt a problem, although I am not proud of being known to be related to these bunch of uncivilized cowards)
KI-Media loves to hear from you, and we're giving you a bullhorn. We just ask that you keep things civil. Please leave out personal attacks, do not use profanity, ethnic or racial slurs, or take shots at anyone's sexual orientation or religion. We thank you for your cooperation!
To KI-Media
Sorry, in advance if I may have broken the golden rules by using DUMB Khmer. My reasons? I wont make any excuses, but do hope you can read between the lines. But as you may know by now that, for years, even in recent days, racial slurs, "EVIL YOUN" "CUT off YOUR HEAD" "Dog Eaters" are almost used in every topic and discussions. These same group of idiots even calling many Khmer nationalist, including Sam Rainsy, Seng Theary, and even the KI Team as YOUN.
I dont believe these same people will learn anything if they continue their uncivilized nonsense, so hopefully they soon see the "LIGHT".
Lets be civilized, after all we live in the 21st century!
Thanks again!
4:58 PM, You are the one that allow Khmer vs Khmer. How dumb are you to freak anyone feeling. We consider you are a hidden you because your words "Dumb Khmer" will tell you are not Khmer. Got it, Dumb Youn?
If you are Khmer, then stop using the word Dumb Khmer.
When are you going to stop bragging that you are only one who is smart as Tom mentioned to you. You are stupid and dumb Yuon. Go and enjoy your Dumb Yuon pussy! LOL, still don't get it. We really enjoy calling this 4:58 PM Dumb Yuon.
Your mouth is very stink enough to call us Dumb Khmer and appraise Dumb Yuon and this idiot 4:58 PM are the most smartest animals in the world or Dumb Yuon = Dog Eaters who makes Khmer people as a dog eater instead. Dumb Yuou @4:58 PM keep lying and lying, bragging and bragging until some bloggers on here call the same person @4:58 PM Dumb Yuon. Maybe this Dumb Yuon gook @4:58 PM married to Dumb Yuon dog eaters.
To 5:57 PM, you are excused, Dumb Yuon! Stop bragging and bullshitting.
Ki-Media will give you a middle finger at you, hidden Dumb Yuon!!!
You are only one who started for nonstop with the words "Dumb Khmer" and you are considered as the dumbest Yuon Dog eater on the planet.
5:57 PM, what about you using the Dumb Khmer as insulting words and you, Dumb Yuon, are racist and discriminate against poor, voiceless, helpless, low-educated and unfortunate Khmer people.
Ki-Media will not care you, Yuon Dog Eater, who appraise Yuon killers and thieves of Killing Fields.
Ok my children that’s enough of vulgarity, most of you claim to be educated, now do you get anything out off these crappy arguments, none?
Dumb Youn @5:57 PM is very phony. You are still the same person mentioned Dumb Khmer to insult Khmer people, make Khmer so mad and angry, humiliate Khmer people. You are full of yourself, Dumb Yuon, and you are so selfish.
You are on the radar here, that we keep watching you. You have kept calling Dumb Khmer for many times until the words Dumb Yuou, Dog Eater, Cut off your hear, etc., because of your stupidity and selfish. So, don't be so ridiculous, hypocrite and phony.
Ki-Media will delete your comments, too, unless your stink mouthpiece of bad words "Dumb Khmer" on Khmer people who have been through the serious pain, hurt and victimized. Those unfortunate Khmer people need help and they did not know how to get help or access to what they need to improve their lives.
You Dumb Yuon @5:57 PM, insulted those unfortunate Khmer people with the words "Dumb Khmer" because they are weak and in pain.
You sound like a Dumb Yuon dog eater yourself and like other Dumb Yuon who have very bad mouthpieces on poor Khmer people.
6:15 PM, you are the one need to kneel down and apologize seriously.
We need to protect voiceless, helpless, hopeless, poor Khmer people from being insulted by your words "Dumb Khmer" and beyond the painful feeling. Khmer people have been through so much and given up so much.
If you care about unfortunate Khmer people, then you show them that you care about them.
Ok I make you a deal. Whoever curses the curse is boomeranging back to that person.
6:33 PM
Nut!!!
The dumb Khmer kings were too generous to their neighbors (Thai, Viet and Cham) by allowing them to seek shelters in Cambodia when they had problem in their countries, and that was one of the reasons Cambodia has been shrunk.
Another reason when the Viet fought among themselves the weaker faction hunted for new territories for expansion from the neighbors. But when the Khmer fought among themselves the weaker faction sought help from the neighbors by ceding lands to them.
Also the dumb Khmer kings were busy playing gods by helping their neighbors fighting their neighbors. They helped the Thai fighting the Burmese, the Viet fighting the Thai and vice versa. Those kings should take advantage on their neighbors while they were weak like the Thai and the Viet did.
But no, they wanted to be Preah Va-eh Sandor instead, and now all we have left are our Kdor Ba-ey.
I believe KI puts this article up for a good reason for us to learn from our enemies, the Vietnamese, tricks and tactics. That is the goal.
But some of us here are easily misled from our goal by probably one single Viet spy in this forum.
Bad words on Khmer people will weaken our Khmer unity. We would like to have strong Khmer unity without internal fight in Khmer unity.
We will take down the Yuon/Vietnamese puppet Hun Sen and CPP down. Don't vote for CPP and Hun Sen who do not care about Cambodia and Khmer people, but those Yuon/Vietnamese dogs only care the wealth and power and CPP family ties.
7:15 PM,
Yes, wanna shoot at Dumb Yuon, you, by coming with the word "boomeranging" bullshit! There is a black magic coming, hiding and disappearing.
Do you know the person who know how to make him invisible? He will shoot your hidden Dumb Yuon asses hiding among Khmer society and can haunt you everywhere for nonstop. You have made them very angry.
Secret weapon in hidden magicians, Khmer heroes
Correction for 7:25 PM. The post similar to 7:15 PM was deleted.
Not for 7:15 PM.
Yes, wanna shoot at Dumb Yuon, you, by coming with the word "boomeranging" bullshit! There is a black magic coming, hiding and disappearing.
Do you know the person who know how to make him invisible? He will shoot your hidden Dumb Yuon asses hiding among Khmer society and can haunt you everywhere for nonstop. You have made them very angry.
Secret weapon in hidden magicians, Khmer heroes
7:25 PM
7:30 PM
“Secret weapon in hidden magicians, Khmer heroes”
Keep on dreaming son, I wish you a lot of very good luck to become an invisible man so you can kill Hun Sen and his cronies for the Khmer people.
By the way how old are you, son?
6:54 PM,
What all Khmer kings have left is a bat and two balls!
The word "Kdor Ba-ey" is obselete and should be replaced by "Kdor Muoy Porng Pi".
7:49 PM
Whatever you want to call it brother, but the word "Kdor Ba-ey" is a Khmer slang for the penis and the 2 balls, and every Khmer understands it.
Both of you 7:49 and 8:43 PM are very funny...lol!
Humor is one of the good medicines for the heart, mind and body.
Well how do you humor your frenemy that comes at you with all they got?
Ok now that the rain has stopped let’s start by finding our weaknesses like 6:54 PM did, instead of cursing our enemies, Yuon. It does not help us.
I quote what he said:
“The dumb Khmer kings were too generous to their neighbors (Thai, Viet and Cham) by allowing them to seek shelters in Cambodia when they had problem in their countries, and that was one of the reasons Cambodia has been shrunk.
Another reason when the Viet fought among themselves the weaker faction hunted for new territories for expansion from the neighbors. But when the Khmer fought among themselves the weaker faction sought help from the neighbors by ceding lands to them.
Also the dumb Khmer kings were busy playing gods by helping their neighbors fighting their neighbors. They helped the Thai fighting the Burmese, the Viet fighting the Thai and vice versa. Those kings should take advantage on their neighbors while they were weak like the Thai and the Viet did.
But no, they wanted to be Preah Va-eh Sandor instead, and now all we have left are our Kdor Ba-ey.”
10:39 PM
My advice to you my friend, if you could, just put your frenemy on ignore and then move on.
Yeap, I hear you 11:05 PM, Thx!
That's what still "chheam reav" is all about, 11:39PM!
Dear friends, let’s go back to our main objective here, learning from our enemies, Viet, treacheries and tactics.
Especially you, Mother fucker 11:52PM and without you the world will be a better place!
11:52 PM + 12:00 AM
If you feel it that way the hopelessness is on you. You can take it wherever you want until hell does you apart, nobody cares.
Just take your mental illness somewhere else; we don’t want the contagion here.
You need to take some Prozac, ok sick man.
Especially you, Mother fucker 12:00 AM and without you the world will be a better place!
Are you talking to yourself, son?
12:52 PM,
Hell doesn't me...I am better off right here on planet earth with you all whether you want it or not!
Got it?
12:26 AM
It is easy to say, anybody can do that.
But your sadness and craziness are shown in your writing you cannot deny it.
Get some Prozac it will calm you down. My neighbor Doctor gave it to his dog when it barked too much.
You go around calling people Son, 12:46 AM?
You old fart must have gotten your medication mixed up yourself huh?...As a matter of fact you must have been eaten your own shit already...go die somwhere else old fart...not on KI-Media's account, ok old fart?
11:52 PM + 12:00 AM + 12:26 AM are the same very sick puppy.
Anybody here is a psychologist? He needs help.
You don’t like me calling you son. Ok I demote you to be a grandson or maybe a great grandson since you whine too much.
By now everybody knows that this forum is better off without you, my great grandson. And they know where you are from too.
You Khmers on this page, and whereever else for that matter, are hilariously wacked stupid pussies. You call other all kinds of names, and when you got called, you cry like pussies in heat. It further validate what other said about you are true. Loosers
1:51 AM
You call yourself smart, get out of here and don’t come back, go.
KI-Media loves to hear from you, and we're giving you a bullhorn. We just ask that you keep things civil. Please leave out personal attacks, do not use profanity, ethnic or racial slurs, or take shots at anyone's sexual orientation or religion. We thank you for your cooperation!
1:56 AM,
Don't go demented on KI-Media's account...just eat shit and die! and NTW, You won't be missed at all, now go!
1:51 AM
A smart person would not pick a fight with an old fart, unless he is stupid himself. Don’t you think?
Damned! it hits 100 mark already just with nonsense! School of Vice will have good time going over them for deletion already. Oh Well.
Tom mentioned this Young Turks' site
http://janecadhlanews.blog4ever.com/blog/index-462157.html
I think it's time for all of you, Laotians, Vietnamese, Thai, Cambodian, Cham, and the rest who involved with Vietnamese and Vietnamese themselves MUST learn the history from the legitimate sources.
If you do you would stop calling each other "dumb Khmer or dumb Yuon", you should debate with facts and be civilized.
It's time for you Asian people learn the real history not hearsay.
3:03 AM
I know it and you know who makes it happen.
The bastard must be very proud of his achievement.
Hey 3:10AM, I said I was sorry already ok? What else do you want from me? I made one comment, and that was it! Did not know it could spin out of control like this. Hope you don't keep rubbing it in!
ok 3:22 AM, if that is the case, I stand corrected! and Thanks a lot for the rectification!
Like I said before and I say it again that you (Cambodians) must turn to GOD, if you want to be freed.
The sins of your ancestors against GOD were too great. His noble design working through the Vietnamese to destroy your Kingdom, Champa, Laos to Thailand, and why do you still deny? His punishment is severe but if you turn to Him, you and your nation will be freed, and your enemy (Vietnamese) will be defeated. I don't know how but, they will be.
Turn to GOD, I beg you.
3:34 AM
And who is your GOD, Zeus the "Father of Gods and men" ?
3:40 AM
GOD is only ONE, not my GOD or anyone's GOD, He is everyone's GOD. And you will be dead before 2013.
i am viet and i dont think the name calling from my "assumed" youn bro has been very unbecoming. please stop that bro. now, if we keep our heads cool and calm, i see that everything happens because of destiny. if viet and khmer bro are meant be together as one nation, fate will make it happen. yes, it might be cruel, but in this world it's not perfect. it's the big fish eat little fish shitty world. the same is said between china and vietnam. vietnam could be swallowed by china too. i wish cambodia the best to stay independent and fight wwell to keep its indepedence. i am afraid it does not have much choice given its promity to vietnam. you can argue it's the worst thing that you lie next to vietnam. we say the same for vietnam next to china too. but no matter where you are, there will always be another country that prey on you. please give your best fight and beat the shit out of us. we'll do the same to you. in the end, there can be only one winner.
3:56 AM
You ask people to believe in your GOD and you don’t know who your GOD is?
What the @#$%^!!!
4:02 AM
You believe in "Faith" means you trust in GOD's works. GOD is cleaning his earth, He works through Vietnamese to destroy Champa, Cambodia, Laos, to Thailand..., and GOD may work through China to destroy Vietnam as well, it may be true, since the Vietnamese leaders are too corrupted and many are bought by Chinese.
You understand the consequences. GOD Bless.
Man...the number of Khmers obsess with Vietnamese girls is unbelievable, no wonder your stupid king in the past was willing to give khmer land for 1 Viet woman. It must be that Khmer inferior complex that seeks dilusional empowerment by spewing out perverted comments because those filthy Khmers cannot get any in real life, not even from your own Khmer girls. Eww....
4:11 AM
He is the Almighty GOD, the only one GOD, the Creator of this Universe.
Even if you mock and deny Him, you are still His subject.
4:16 AM sounded like a girly girly Viet...oh lala!
4:16 AM
You should not lie from the facts. I am not Asian but I knew history of Vietnam, Champa, Kambuja (Cambodia), Laos, Thailand.. very well.
Khmer King named Jeyajettha II accepted Nguyen's daughter named Ngoc Van because of Siam aggression against his country. He took Ngoc Van for protection. It was not that he wanted but he had no alternative choice.
Read the history (First Vietnamese Intervention in Cambodia in 1658) revived by French Scholars: Dr. Po Dharma (Cham-French) and Dr. Mak Pheoun (Khmer-French).
What the hell is going on here?
First we are hijacked by the Viet pussy now we are hijacked by GOD.
Are we able to find our way home, damn.
LOL! 4:31 AM,
We don't know yet. We may after it hits the 200 mark, maybe!
4:31 AM
Do you believe in "Faith"? Hijacking is not the right word, it is the result of the past action your ancestors did.
Try to be a little civilized person, you may be able to find your way home. Your comments are not only uncivilized comment, but they display your character as who you are.
4:40 AM
LOL.
Let me know when you find it.
200! I can wait that long, I am hungry.
4:54 AM
Where did we start, do you remember?
And how do we get here?
Run! Run! my daughter Run!
mum I been shot by the gun in my tummy.
Oh my God Asmath Komari where is Alah.
He still work with China
Voice of America
Not sure 5:04AM, maybe the 5th one
from the top and span out of control...
Stop the Viet expantion.
Blow the Viets brains out !!!
Yuon never believed in God, they has done evil and devil things to grabbed the Cambodian land and nothing happened to them while most Cambodian are praying God for help. God is yourself and we have to protect ourselves from the Vietnamese takeover now or never.
Responding to 4:02 AM,
You sound very familiar to OK!, I KNOW!, I THINK, REALLY!, etc. At this time, you are exposed to what you have done posting your nonsense comments to support Yuon CPP and Yuon dog Hun Sen who are the real crooks and low class families from the jungles and who protected by the hidden Yuon forces in Cambodia so that Yuon could steal, cheat and over take everything from Cambodia to Yuon. Then illegal Yuon folks in CPP administration have causing a lot of corruption and damages to the images of Cambodia.
You comment is now without OK!, I KNOW!, I THINK, REALLY!, etc.
You are a bunch of low class illegal Yuon who has no land, but stay illegally in Cambodia for free.
Yuou folks are not reliable and honest, but Yuon always cause a lot problem to Khmer society.
Yuon are so hypocrite.
You @4:02 AM have done posting annoyed comment. Also, the idiotic poster with the words "Dumb Khmer" have been all over the place on Ki-Media and Khmerization to show off the dumb ass and insulting words to agonize Khmer bloggers. Until the words "Dumb Yuon, Dog Eater, etc" came out so harshly against Yuon or Vietnamese spies.
Since we ignored the idiotic posters with words "Dumb Khmer" and were quiet, we have stood very firmly without being afraid of saying the words "Dumb Yuon, Yuon Dog Eaters, Dumb Yuon whore, etc" repeatedly. We do not allow Yuon/Vietnamese folks who reside (illegally and legally) in Cambodia and abroad to put down on Khmer people who are the victims of Yuon/Vietnamese aggressor, manipulators, and killers. If Yuon/Vietnamese folks (other fake Khmer citizens) continue to be hypocrite and flip-flipped, then those Yuon/Vietnamese folks will be called Dumb Yuon, Dumb Yuon Dog Eaters, Dumb Yuon trashes, Dumb Yuon gangsters, etc., in front of Americans or foreigners around the world.
I encourage my Khmer people to stand strong and build strong Khmer unity.
Hey Dumb Yuon @5:58 AM, you are the one who started first freely using words Dumb Khmer at the wrong Khmer bloggers who tried to help Khmer people out of the Dumb Yuon aggressor, killers and thieves. You are the most dumbest blind who married to your Dumb Yuon pussy and killers. Now, you said, Khmer are racist. But you are the one who is racist and discriminating against poor Khmer people. We don't need you to be our opposition parties, Dumb Yuon spy, who knows everything from your flashy eye balls, and you started to brag yourself until you you spilled your stinky mouth with words "Dumb Khmer." OK, Dumb Yuon, go back to where you belong and don't come back here to brag again. You are the Dumb Yuon spy who have agreed with the negative posts from other who are not Khmer, against Khmer people who are hurtful and victims of Dumb Yuon aggressors, killers and thieves.
We caught you, Dumb Yuon bitch. Will you stop being racist against poor Khmer people, Dumb Yuon, so stop your discrimination against poor Khmer people.
We will take down dumb Yuon CPP, Dumb Yuon dog Hun Sen and Dumb Yuon CPP crooks and family ties.
We support 5:50 AM and 5:31 AM. Bravo!!!
Dear friends, let’s go back to our main objective here, learning from our enemies, Viet, treacheries and tactics.
Does Ki-Media mess around and deleted the good comments from posters recently? We don't like the one who used the words "Dumb khmer" until Khmer bloggers have fought back with the words "Dumb Yuon, Dumb Yuon Dog eaters, etc.? What the heck!
KI Media is deleting all comments but keeping comments with evil YOUN, YOUN enemies, YOUN Dog eater.
KI Media is encouraging racial slur?
Can KI Media explain to the readers what is happening.
My comments containing the words "boomerang" is now a racial slur or personal attack was removed.
But comment posts containing youn this youn that, kill, chop, balls, pussy, dogs, are allowed.
If KI media cant control these idiots, i suggest you disabled all comments. But don't take sides with these uncivilized former jungle KR.
5:29 PM,
It is just like blah, blah and blah. This Dumb Yuon wants white men who are not interested in Dumb Yuon and thank so much for Westerners who do not trust the hypocrite Dumb Yuon (who pretends to Khmer). Glad that Tom did the right thing and chases Dumb Yuon (who acts like dumb educator) who called Khmer people dumb.
Comment of Dumb Yuon @5:29 PM is so hypocrite and phony.
6:31 AM
That is good, I applaud that because this is a Khmer blog, if you don’t like it go to the Viet blog and leave us alone. We never mess around with your Viet blog, why should you. If you think this blog is uncivilized don’t come here, YOUN Dog eater.
From the 9th to the 13th centuries, the Cambodian empire of Angkor was the most powerful political force in Southeast Asia.
Have we asked ourselves why did the empire decline?
And the smaller countries of Dai Viet and Thai swallowed the empire up in less than 5 centuries.
1 – The construction of many colossal monuments and irrigation system demanded a lot of manpower and wealth through very heavy taxation, but those constructions served only the few who lived around Angkor.
They made the population unhappy with its leaders, which in turn weakened the strength of the nation and made them less patriotic.
2 – The constant internal fighting for power.
Of course there were more factors, but they were minor.
In contrast the enemies of the Cambodian empire did not have major construction projects. They unified and conserved their strength to fight the weakened mighty Khmer. Therefore a country’s strength relies on the population happiness, unity and patriotism.
Currently the majority of Khmer only see the glory of Angkor, but they did not see its flip side which has caused the permanent decline to this day.
For # 1, if you were like me who lived through the KR you know what it was like, we did not care who was in charge as long as we survived and lived in a better condition without the constant fear of being taken away and killed. That was why there was no resistance from miserable population during the Vietnamese invasion in late 1978. Right before the decline our ancestors probably felt the same way.
Ki-Media is trying to save Khmer people from the Dumb Yuon brains, aggression, bad mouthpieces, etc., so that the readers around the world will understand what have been going on in Cambodia, why Khmer/Cambodian people are so fed up with Dumb Yuon aggression and robberies and so on in Cambodia, why Cambodian/Khmer people have been labelled with bad and insulting names (laziest, weak, butt-naked, etc) by Dumb Yuon for nonstop everywhere. We believe some Khmer folks on here (anonymous) are Yuou/Vietnamese spies who called Khmer people or bloggers "Dumb Khmer." Yes, Dumb Yuon/Vietnamese spies read everything on here and know everything. In Vietnamese, their Communist websites have been blocked and no comments or posts have not been allowed freely. How can know about Yuon or Vietnamese stories there, but the Dumb Yuon/Vietnamese lied everything to cheat the readers or bloggers around the world.
See? Dumb Yuon in Cambodia keep going on and on with the insulting names, bad mouthpieces, discrimination, racial slur themselves. Dumb Yuon still don't recognize themselves the hypocrite individuals, biased Yuon, aggressive Yuon, Yuon thieves, Yuon corruptions, and beyond until they [Dumb Yuon] makes Cambodian under control of Dumb Yuon aggressor for SALES for their Dumb Yuon profits. We are sure that Khmer bloggers know better about the history.
No more Dumb Yuon poisonous brains and hypocrite behaviors toward Khmer people who are the victims of Dumb Yuon aggressors, killers and thieves.
5:31 AM
I think you are deadly wrong about the Vietnamese didn't believe in GOD.
In the Year 1600's the Vietnamese Lord in Hue arrested the Roman Catholic Priests (the Missionaries) after he executed few Priests. He took the Holy Cross from 14th century to protect his kingdom. He asked to be taught about GOD and about the crusade, and later he secretly converted to Christian.
Most Mandarins in Vietnam were Catholic, though they were not publicly announced for fearing people may rise.
Vietnam is a second nation in Asia that adopted Christianity, and China is the 3rd.
This to Jeremiah! You reminds me of the Prophet Jeremiah, the weeping prophet during the tragic period of the destruction of Jerusalem, Kingdom of Judah by the Babylonians.
God spoke through Jeremiah to tell his people to repent and to turn to GOD but they didn't listen, even his own family members tried to kill him. Many attempts to take his life failed. Finally Jerusalem destroyed. Not only they didn't listen they cursed GOD.
You are not a prophet, but you see the danger upon Khmers and they need to be told. But sadly Khmer people many refused to believe GOD.
Today everywhere I go in Cambodia I am fed up to see the poor living conditions. My tear can stop flowing to see the Vietnamese are everywhere in my homeland.
I believe in what you said and called Jeremiah, but I am alone cannot change them. :(
7:29 AM,
You are full of it!
7:44am
Your fear is every Khmer fear. No use to discuss among the self-centered like yourself.
Goodbye
7:29 AM,
You, Dumb Yuon, who have made the Westerners like Dumb Yuon until your Dumb Yuon like you betrayed Westerner in the secret way. Keep posting your bullshitting posts, saying that only Dumb Yuon dog eaters who are good and likeable people, but your Dumb Yuon tried to survive by stealing and grabbing Khmer land, and then your Dumb Yuon will pray how grateful to be in such an evil aggression to grab Khmer people land.
Think about what your Dumb You folks have done so far. The land and properties of Cambodia/Khmer are not yours, but your Dumb Yuon stole everything from Khmer and killed Khmer people. Now, your Dumb Yuon are faking to believe in what your Dumb Yuon evil acts to destroy Khmer lives without acknowledge and feeling of hurting other in bloody way. Fake believer, Dumb Yuon, the betrayers.
Guys!!!!
If you want to lower your blood pressure, take your doctor's advice.....stay away from KI for a few days even weeks.
I know KI is very addictive but sometimes, you have to do what you have to for your own sake.
Baay Kdaing
Not I, my friend Baay Kdaing!
Bai Kork (បាយកក)
7:55 AM,
No Khmer people have such a fear with your Dumb Yuon.
We are watching your Yuon nation today who are begging for help from the U.S. to protect your Dumb Yuon country from China. Your Dumb Yuon want to China and the U.S. to fight each other until the both superpower countries become weak. Then your Dumb Yuon will be unified to fight against the weaken superpower countries to take over just like Khmer Empire armies fought with Mongol Empire armies to help your Dumb Yuon (small Die Viet) until Khmer empire were exhausted to fight to save your Dumb Yuon asses. Then, your Dumb Yuon (Die Viet) exploited the weakness of Mighty Khmer who faces tremendous threats from Tai Chinese/Siam/Thai settlers (the refugees fled from Southern China Nanzhao province where Mongol Empire armies killed them) within three centuries. Khmer Empire armies were exhausted after fighting to defeat Burmese armies to save Tai Chinese/Siam/Thai. Khmer Empire Armies were injured and weaken, but your Dumb Yuon (Die Viet) turned out to be so cruel to destroy the Khmer Empire after your disgraceful Dumb Yuon betrayed and attacked the weakness of mighty Khmer empire armies and people. There are the stories to tell the evil Dumb Yuon.
7:29 AM,
Sorry for the posting of 7:56 AM. It is for Dumb Yuon only. Not you. Just misread your post. It is just out of control, very angry with Dumb Yuon aggression.
We hear that you are seeing millions of illegal Vietnamese settlers everywhere that are really causing the problem to Cambodia and Cambodian people.
8:11 AM
You give the dog eaters, Viet, too much credit.
The US and China are not that dumb to allow the Viet to manipulate them.
Dang! we could have hit 200 mark already had it not been all of those deletions...and we may have found the way home safe and sound already...
Sorry 4:47 AM for having kept your hope up too high!
Jok Jap
8:31 AM, I agree.
8:09 AM .......Bai Kork ()
បាយកក + num banh joc,samlor khmer =
C'est bon ...très bon manger !
What about "somlor majou yuon" and "Bai Kork", 8:45AM? Wouldn't it be delicious too? lol!
8:31 AM and 8:44 AM are Dumb Yuou spies.
Hey Dumb Yuon (both of you are twin), you misunderstood the points. Reread again.
This tell us that, the U.S. should be careful with the Dumb Yuon's dirty tricks. The U.S. should destroy Dumb Yuon, not doing the business with Dumb Yuon because of Human Right Violation in Vietnam and interferences to Cambodia and Laos.
What the heck you are talking about, Dumb Yuon twin talking to himself.
Khmer Land? Just how did the ancient people acquired "Khmer Land"? Did they make their own dirt, water, air, trees, rice,...etc Or has the land existed for them in the first place? Who was the actual right owner in the first place?
Was the land gifted to them to live on or they just assumed it was their privilage by possessing something that weren't theirs' in the first place? Same question apply to China, Vietnam, Thailand,...etc What we called, our land is in question. None of us can make new dirt in middle of an Ocean to call it "ourland".
Like an atheist telling God that he can make his own world too. But the problem for the atheist was, he was using God's dirt. God told him to make his own dirt.
Cambodians, Vietnamese, Chinese,... We are all living on God's dirt. But we give glory to another instead of the rightful owner.
For 7:29 AM, changing our mind from what 8:20 AM mentioned to be sorry or agreed with comment @7:29 AM.
You @7:29 AM are supporting Yuon. We are not accepting your opinions in term of your religion bring disgraceful Yuon who support the Communist regime, Yuon CPP Hun Sen and crooks.
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Sorry for the posting of 7:56 AM. It is for Dumb Yuon only. Not you. Just misread your post. It is just out of control, very angry with Dumb Yuon aggression.
We hear that you are seeing millions of illegal Vietnamese settlers everywhere that are really causing the problem to Cambodia and Cambodian people.
8:20 AM
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We change our mind that we agreed with your comments posted at 8:20 AM
9:37 AM, what are you talking?
9:14 AM below is your writing dummy:
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“Your Dumb Yuon want to China and the U.S. to fight each other until the both superpower countries become weak. Then your Dumb Yuon will be unified to fight against the weaken superpower countries”
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If you don’t remember what wrote why bother.
Do I sound like Yuon to you, dummy?
Champa people need to reclaim their land back from the international thief Yiek Mam.
Champa people need to reclaim their land back from the international thief Yiek Nam.
All you DUMB Khmer just repeats the same thing..if only 1 out of the 200 people here, actually does something about it instead of doing NOTHING!
I guess you former Khmer Rouge cant get a job. At least you can still send money over to your lover in Khmer!
Hahaha....so this is where the lazy and stupid khmers come to whine and bitch instead of put in the hard work to become something of themselves and their country. Whining and bitching and being racist to the Vietnamese won't get you ANYWHERE. After a few decades here in the U.S and outside of Cambodia, did the Vietnamese cause your family going on welfare?,your criminal sons dropping out of high school and getting deported? Change your way of thinking and elevate your mind, and maybe you and your country can get ahead. But who am I kidding, you guys just gonna prefer to keep on doing what you do best, bitching and whining, aren't you? Even god cannot help you then!
1:13 PM
Hey folks.
The US just issued a very tough immigration law. There are too many deported back to their own countries.
And it is going to be more to come.
Mexican people running and hiding still they can find them and dragging them out from their hiding places.
I don't know how many Cambodians were deported, but I heard that will be more.
About 8000 Vietnamese are going to be deported. Believe me those Viet gangs are going to be killed or be thrown to crocodiles to be eaten (Viet policies).
Here is the article about Viet deportees.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/us/23immig.html?_r=1
Whoa, there are many stupid Dumb Yuon bitches and bastards here. What the heck are here, trying to scare us, having bad mouthpieces, pretend to be fake Khmer to fight real Khmer people, take the control over us Khmer, and so on.
Hey Dumb Yuon, all Dumb dog eaters, thieves, killers, liars, go back where you belong..
How much longer, Dumb Yuon whore and bastards are here to be out of their minds to take someone land and dare to talk stupid and uneducated Dumb Yuon. They are just like Dumb Yuon animals without thinking that the land, forest and lake belong to Khmer people, Cham, Hill Tribes. So, Dumb Yuon think like animals that are being aggressive to kill people and fill there stinky stomach without thinking.
Whoa, All Dumb Yuou on here are very evil and smelly like dirty umhuman shits.
Dumb Yuon Dog eaters @1:13 PM and @12:36 PM are still coming back for more dog meat, My Gosh.
All Khmer people and our friends around the worlds, please bring some arrows and darts to shoot Dumb Yuon who are still trying to aggressive again to attack us.
Dumb Yuon are not human, but they are fierce and dirty animals who are not thinking. They are just thinking like animals to kill someone and take their food and land and control the place that are not belong to them [Dumb Yuon dog eaters] and Dumb Yuon dog eaters are still not getting it. When the bomb should bomb them sto stop their attacks.
How much longer will they continue to bark like animals or deadly Dumb Yuon killers?
Don't believe Dumb Yuon@12:36 PM who pretends to be Khmer and repeatedly and always bring the words "Dumb Khmer" on purpose to insult and look down on Khmer people in general.
That is why dumb Yuon @12:36 PM to make Dumb Khmer to be famous and to manipulate the foreigners like westerners and neighbors to hate us Khmer people on purpose because of the Khmer Rouges as the scapegoats, that hidden Dumb Yuon killers are not killers of Killing Fields instead. Just watch out Dumb Yuou who tried to destroy the image of Khmer people.
Yes, Vietnamese are Dumb Yuon and the real animals without thinking by killing people to take land and steal the natural resources.
The guy @1:13 PM laughs like Dumb Yuou animal like zhee, zhee, zhee tones that is so annoyed.
The idiotic poster (same old and same old) has posted the comments with words "Dumb Khmer" until the real Khmer poster [our hero] who fought against the poster with Dumb word on Khmer people. Get rid of the poster who think this idiot is always right to mention Dumb Khmer on purpose.
It is very good to hear Dumb Yuon, Dumb Yuon dog eaters, Dumb Yuon thieves, Dumb Yuon killers, Dumb Yuon aggressors so that the Vietnamese bastards and bitches will be so shameful to be called Dumb Yuon and Dog Eaters!
Khmer have to stand firm as a very strong Khmer unity.
Yes, we can put a shame to Dumb Yuon and Dog Eaters who called us Dumb Khmer on purpose.
Glad to see KI keeps this article on the top page. It is very educational article. Please keep it a little longer so others may learn from it.
2:39 PM I dont think KI Media understands your sarcasm.
Dumb Yuon never learned about who they are, but they have kept bragging about themselves, dumb Yuon dog eaters, land thieves and killers.
Hey Shitty Yuon,
Du Mae Maiy !!!
Khmers will stop Yuon's Nam Tien.
Bullets splatter Yuon's brain in split of a second !!!
The funny thing about the Cambodian is that they love to paint themselves out to be some kind of goody tooshy innocent victim of military conquest from their neighbors. Yet they are so proud of their so-called Khmer empire. How did the Khmer empire come about? Prior to 1900s Cambodia had no written history, but what they did not have it written down, they carved it in stones, and what was carved in stones was not about the bird, the trees, or the flowers. No, it was about their brutal military adventures into other people’s land, about their brutal exploitations and the enslavement of their victims. Those who resisted were put to the sword, but they were the lucky ones, those who lived were forced into slavery to build their temples. The Khmer empire was carved by the sword and built by slavery. However, things changed and the role was reversed, the predator became the victim, brutality was meted out to the Khmer in similar fashion that they had for so long done to others in years past, so naturally, they did not like it. The Cambodian pathetically eulogized about the kingdom of Champa as if they loved and cared for them. Historical records showed both were constantly at each other’s throat, waging wars on each other in an attempt to eliminate the other. The Khmer simply landed on the wrong side of history and lost most of their land, the land that they will never get it back.
To 6:20pm
That is fine if you choose to see Khmer history that way! But the Vietnamese and the Siemese people have their origination in China! The Khmer King did not invaded China to bring about the problem with the Vietnamese and the Siemese! It is the Mongol empire ruled by Genghis Khan who over ran China and brings about the change in large population movement into Khmer empire which force the Vietnamese people and the Siemese people out of China to find refuge in Khmer empire from the Mongol horde!
The Khmer Kings never fought with anybody beside their own tribes to bring about unification within the Khmer Empire! It is not coincidence that the Vietnamese (Vietnam) and the Siemese(Thailand) were outnumber the Khmer people in population and military! Even in the present day, Thailand has about 70 million people and Vietnam has 80 million people and while the Khmer (Cambodia) has 14 million people!
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“Prior to 1900s Cambodia had no written history, but what they did not have it written down, they carved it in stones, and what was carved in stones was not about the bird, the trees, or the flowers.”
=This is pure lie! Cambodia has everything under the sky except the Viet and the Siem to bother them! The Viet and the Siem was newcomer and both were jealous of Cambodian people achievement! And both the Viet and the Siem leaders think that by conquer over Cambodia will prove their greatness to the world! The Cambodian creativity, productivity, and ingenuity ended with the arrival of the Siem and the Viet!
“The Khmer empire was carved by the sword and built by slavery.”
=This is pure lie too! Even in the 21th century and there slavery everywhere in the world! There are sex slaves, slave labors, and slaves work as maid…The Khmer empire build out of greatness and richness in the Khmer people and their fertile land and without such the greatness and the richness can’t come about and the Khmer can’t build their great empire either! Now you know why the Viet and the Siem never have the empire of their own beside trying to conquer over Cambodia to show their greatness because the Viet and the Siem don’t even land to talk about!
So the Viet and the Siem needs to stop being so jealous of Cambodia and stop trying to conquer over Cambodia to show their greatness to the world! Otherwise the struggle, the discussion, and the debate will continue on and on and on…..until there is a solution!
June 4th 1949 Lest We Forget!
Sihanouk and BMD
Regarding Kampuchea Krom and Prey Nokor [ex-Saigon, present Ho Chi Minh City], the royal armed forces of HM Preah Duong, and those of HM Preah Norodom fought till the end against the aggression and colonization of the armed forces of Annam. They did so until the victorious conquest of Indochina by the French colonialists who are the only ones responsible for the granting of our Kampuchea Krom, our Prey Nokor, our Koh Tral [Phu Quoc] island to Vietnam.
Signed: Norodom Sihanouk
7:10 PM
When you debate with someone you must rely on facts such as history written by real scholars not by hearsay.
You replied to your enemy (Vietnamese) is all wrong and so was your enemy. Both sides are wrong.
"The Cambodian pathetically eulogized about the kingdom of Champa as if they loved and cared for them. Historical records showed both were constantly at each other’s throat, waging wars on each other in an attempt to eliminate the other."
=The Khmer may have fought the Champ but it is not the Khmer that eliminate the Champa from the face of the Earth! It is the Viet who eliminated the Champ from the face of the Earth and the Viet are so proud of that! The Viet are so proud of killing another human race!
The UN
The implementation of the right to self-determination as a contribution to conflict prevention .
Therefore, on behalf of the Khmer Krom people and the Khmers Kampuchea Krom Federation, UNPO would like to appeal to the government of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam to consider the following requests:
1. Decolonize Kampuchea-Krom, Motherland of the Khmer-Krom people, composed of 68,600 km2 , forming the southernmost part of present Vietnam.
2. Place the Kampuchea-Krom territory under the United Nations control in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, Chapter XI, Chapter XII, and Chapter XIII, in order to create a free and fair political environment allowing the Khmer- Krom people to exercise their right to self-determination.
To 9:36PM
Now you are trying to argue with me? Then tell me where is your fact? Tell me!
You are so full of sh*t!ahahahah
All combatants,
please take a pause in fighting and leave your laptop to cool down a bit and go out to buy MEGA lotto.
The jackpot is $540.00 millions which we can compare to Hun Sen's bank book.
And when we win, we can help our country, our party at our choices.
Baay Kdaing
The "circumstance" is on Cham people favor to reclaim their land back along with Khmer people in Kampuchea Krom to reclaim their land back too from this monster Vietnam.
And the Lao people must stop sleeping, by starting their resistance against this rat eaters Vietnam, which has imposed unjustly the dumb rules to Lao people.
6:20 PM
You have completely erred the history of Kambuja. Khmer history read through stone such as on the wall of Angkor the same as every old nations (Egypt, Israel, etc..) on the planet. Khmers went to too many wars, of course all the papers were destroyed the same as they were destroyed during Viet/Pot regime. I said Viet-Pot regime because the whole world knew that the Vietnamese created Pol Pot and they designed the genocide upon Cambodia. I would not go further to Viet/Hun regime that the Vietnamese collecting money from every corner of Cambodia to feed their economy I witnessed during my visit in Cambodia.
For all the world history I read, the Yue/Yuan/Yuon/Annamese/Vietnamese are the most cruel creatures on the planet, they're worse than Hitler for what they did to the native Khmer Krom and Chams. That history is written by Dr. Pannetier "Histoire de Kampup Tè Ong (History of Kampup Tè Ong)".
It is not you or Khmer or Cham or other creature can determine
that the land they captured could be forever with them. It is GOD who decides.
You all should turn to GOD and pray.
9:44 PM
You wrote mostly lies. What you wrote were never found in the history I read. I didn't read any history wrote by Vietnamese nor by Khmers nor by Thais, because I trust none of them.
it's good to learn about each other's culture and differences, etc, you know. next week should be khmer cultural exposition, etc, different theme every month; that's good to build friendship and learn about each other; after all, cambodia has different neighboring countries, you know! that's smart and educational, i think! good idea, whoever thought of this. that's how you build trust, friendship, understanding, peace, etc, etc, you know! i think the world is changing and different as time go, really! god bless my country cambodia.
plus, there are different people living all over the world, so why not educate and teach each other to tolerate and understand differences whether it's cultural differences, thinking differences, conceptual differences, etc, etc... the list goes on, really! people shouldn't be selfish, evil nor jealous. instead, we could come together to make peace, and bring development and prosperity to the entire regional. no bias or discrimination is allowed, ok!
law is permanent, rule is changeable, you know!
Look, conquests were a common practices in ancient time, otherwise how do you think modern borders are defined, including the border of the U.S, China, and ancient Khmer empire's for that matter. Khmer empire conquered Funan an other smaller self-govern territories to become as large as it was, are you proud of that? Khmer and Cham were at war to destroy the other just as often as Cham vs Dai Viet. In fact Cham had tried so many time to conquer Dai Viet during its tender years, they did have their chances, ok. It was all fair game back then, you play and you pay if lost, there were winners and losers all over the world. If Cham had successfully conquered Dai Viet, they new nation would have gone to war with Khmer over land. That was a part of evolution all around the world. Can you tell Americans to give land back to Indians, Australians to the aboriginals, China to return land and freedom back to the Cantonese and the Min Yue. So we have to start from the much later point in history, 19's or 20th century when international laws of soveignty were established.
As for Vietnam's occupation 1979 - 1988, Pol Pot did attacked VN's border and massacred Vnmese there (there ar proofs and who wouldn't believe Pol Pot KR would kill the Vnmese when they were more than willing to kill their own kind).
And just think rationally for a mommment (don't get your emotion all mixed up with logic), what would have happened if VN troops had withdrawn after successful pushed Pol Pot KR force into the jungle but still somewhat intact with full pledge of weapon support from China (who sadly didn't care about the killing field, as with the U.S), and a full recognition as a legitimate regim in the United Nation. Do you really let memory betrays you an believe that the return of Pol Pot & KR was actually better for Cambodia during or shortly after 1979? How would those deceased Khmer victims of Khmer Rouge and those who survived the holocaust feel if they are told that KR was better than VN? Where were China, U.S & the rest of the world when Khmer's educated elite & small children were being slaughtered and starved to death by the KR? Only China's weapons were be used there! Did the Vnmese do enough for Khmers after that? No,but they didn't do enough for their own citizens in VN either. In fact, some limited aids to Cambodia did come from VN,which was a torn nation after devasted wars, striken with its own problem of hunger and human right depreviation in the 70's & 80's.
Would it have been better if the U.S, Japan, NATO, or even China come in to provide emergency relief of food and medical care, and maybe some political an military stability to Cambodia during the KR reign? YES, BUT NO OTHER COUNTRY DID ANYTHING TO THE KHMER ROUGE OR TO HELP KHMER PEOPLE DURING 1975-1979! Those countries were even supporting the return of KR (China provided KR weapons and even attacked VN for taking out the KR, U.S was behind KR in the United Nation). Who were the victims during that period, ordinary Khmer people and Viets and Laotians. The limited food that VN gave to Cambodians in 1979 had to be taken from the bowls of starving Vnmese family during that time,because there was no one to care but us three.
11:21 PM + 11:22 PM
i know!
you know!
really!
ok!
etc!
9:46 PM,
Baay Kdaing,
You are so hilarious and funny. LOL!!!
Khmer Yeurng
For some friends who were not here yesterday, here are some humoristic comments to cool you down.
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Anonymous said...
What the hell is going on here?
First we are hijacked by the Viet pussy and now we are hijacked by GOD.
Are we able to find our way home, damn it?
4:31 AM
Anonymous said...
LOL! 4:31 AM,
We don't know yet. We may after it hits the 200 mark, just maybe!
4:40 AM
Anonymous said...
4:40 AM
LOL.
Let me know when you find it.
200 !!!!! I cannot wait that long, I am hungry either Baay Kdaing or Baay Ka-ork are fine with me.
4:47 AM
Anonymous said...
4:54 AM
Where did we start, do you remember?
And how do we get here?
5:04 AM
Anonymous said...
Not sure 5:04AM, maybe the 5th one
from the top and span out of control...
5:25 AM
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For the friends who were here yesterday, I apologize for the repetition.
11:46 PM,,
From your posting comment, you wish Vietnam would have all Cambodia, Loas and even Thailand to be your own Vietnam. How dumb are you thinking about such a dirty thinking and concepts to teach or brainwash your young Vietnamese generation to commit the dirty plan to be like American taking land of Indian, by killing all Khmer and Laos. That is a very cruel thinking of your stupid Vietnamese nation. There is no chance for the Vietnamese to take over Cambodia, lower Cambodia and Laos because the world (UN, USA, EU Unions, International Communities or powerful countries like Japan, S. Korea, Brazil, etc.)is watching very carefully over the cruel Vietnam nation on the planet.
You have a wishful thinking of all Khmer land (last Cambodian land), Loas to be your own stupid Vietnam country (Indochina) in the modern day or 21st century.
That is why we know the Vietnamese (Vietnam nation) are the most cruel nation on the planet. They would love to do thing as they want to in order to exterminate other races like American taking over Indian people. What is wrong with you, Vietnamese people.
Khmer Yeurng
Please correct me if I am wrong - It appears that we (Khmer) at KI-Media, are entertaining our frenemy Viet so the world (a bit of exageration here) will not agree with the Viet that Khmer is racist vis-à-vis the Viet? Or is it that we are trying to teach Khmer readers here on KI-Media to learn how to engage with our frenemy Viet in a civilized manner without having to insult the Viet by using such a word as "Yuon" etc...etc... when the Viet here on KI-Media constantly and inceasingly adresses Khmer as "Dumb Khmer" and so on so forth???
Please help elaborate. Thank you.
Kalonh Chuck
When I came back and read more of KI addressing "Yuon" are its "Brothers", I just want to vomit.
Those crap dancing are Yuon not Chams. I were there twice in my native country Champa, I saw them all Yuon.
Yes true that Yuon are now powerful with weapon and army, but they are little insects to China and China is a little insect to my God "Allah".
Once the world Muslims rule the world, Champa will return.
Until then all Yuon woman wear veils and Yuon men wear Muslim clothes. They must pray 5 times a day to wash their sins, and speak only Arab and English.
Please read this comment made by 12:26am which appears below. Does anyone think this person wrote English or the monkey wrote insead? Read the first line "Hell doesn't me...". My God oh my God why on earth, we still have the stupid Yuon like this 12:26am run amok and the stupid Khmers like Hun Sen run amok?
[[["Hell doesn't me...I am better off right here on planet earth with you all whether you want it or not!
Got it?
12:26 AM"]]
It's more like "Hell doesn't want me". The person may have mistyped the words...
Hope this helps 1:14 AM...Don't get too hyped up about it!
Dear 11:46PM,
Thank you for your passionate argument, although I strongly disagree with it. Here is my counter-argument, and if you read it thoroughly you’ll understand why Khmer people are right to be EXTREMELY frustrated with your people.
Historically, we, Khmer, have been very generous to your people. Sadly and outrageously, you took advantages of our generosity and betrayed us, not once but repeatedly. Hundreds of years ago, when your army lost the battles against the Chinese, your people miserably fled to the South. Our Kings had the compassion to allow your people to stay on our land; How did you pay us back, you later robbed our land from us. During your anti-colonial and unification wars, our King granted your army the passage through our territory so that they can move the personnel and logistics to attack the South. Again, how did your country and leader (Ho Chi Minh) pay us back ? You deceived us, dragged our country into your wars and as that were not enough, you attempted to annex our country with your Indochina Federation scam.
No, your country did not come to save us from Pol Pot. You came to remove Pol Pot because he stopped taking order from your countries. Your leaders went to Russia, East Germany and other Eastern European countries trying to sale to them your Indochina Federation scam.
How can you claim to have saved us from the Khmer Rouge? Your country are the one that gave birth to them, fed them and trained them. Our country was quiet and peaceful until Ho Chi Minh and his clan illegally sneaked into our country to create and train the murderous Khmer Rouge.
Your country have not changed for a thousand years. I hope I’m wrong but it will not change for another thousand years. For some out-of-date beliefs and mentality, your people think robbing other people lands is the only way to survive. Your people think they are smart. But, why can’t your people look at other countries like Korea, Indonesia, Singapore, Taiwan…etc. Those countries are secure and very successful in modern times without invading or annexing their neighbours.
In these days of globalization and electronic information, if your country thinks it can annex Cambodia, you are making a very grave mistake.
1:20 AM
The Viet spy who wrote:
"Hell doesn't me...I am better off right here on planet earth with you all whether you want it or not!”
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I pissed him off big time and he was fuming at me.
In desperation he used his secret sticky bomb (Viet p***y) as a weapon of mass destruction. He is now probably Boo…Hoo…somewhere.
Oh, I also demote him to a great grandson because he whines too much.
Is KI-Media really caving in to a couple of Viet trollers who have been harassing, trashing, dissing, and insulting Khmer since God knows when here on KI-Media?
Are we really shaping Khmer up as one intended or punishing Khmer in the process?
What in God name are we doing?
Bai Kork
What in God's name are we doing?***
Bai Kork
12:40 AM, Kalonh Chuck,
There are many bloggers here using DUMB Khmer, and I am one of them. Try not to jump to conclusion as with the other DUMB Khmer who keeps accusing us, as YOUN.
Even when i tried to be civilized and discourage others to stop with the racial slur and with the evil YOUN nonsense, these uncivilized people still continued with the cursing and often encouraged by KI Media staff.
This is why i give up on Khmer, this is why Khmer will never change. So to answer your question. Im a Khmer, not a YOUN but I am not one of you DUMB Khmer.
11:46 PM
From reading your comments it seems that your argument lacks some historical events. Don't forget prior to the Pol Pot Regime, many Khmer Vietminh such as Hun Sen, Chea Sim and Pen Savann, and thousands of other children were trained in Vietnam. This is why Hun Sen and other CPP leaders, today are obedience to the Vietnamese Government, and this is why they installed Hun Sen since 1979 and supported the Vietnamese government by supplying military force used during 1993 clash and 1997 coup, leading to hundred of deaths.
Also in the early 1800s, in the darkest hours of the Khmer history, the Vietnamese took full control of the country using Ang Mey as a puppet. We lost many territories and land, during her 20 years reign.
I agree with 1.26AM, Vietnam was the cause of Pol Pot Regime. The 7th Janaury Invasion was false propaganda aiming to rewrite history. You must research the Pol Pot Regime, and understand why the world turning blind eyes while 2 millions died and why only one person, a low ranking Pol Pot officer was the scapegoat, while the real culprit sits in his throne in the past 32 years!
Dear 1:26 AM,
You are very good in the positive response the Vietnamese blogger @11:46 PM. We totally agree with you. Time and time again, the Vietnamese people have been taught by the Vietnamese leaders and teachers who have been misleading the young Vietnamese people and they did not think very straight. The Vietnamese only believe their leaders said just because the Vietnam is a communist country and the systems in Vietnam is not very good for her people who have been afraid of being opposite to their leaders, but unfortunately, some Vietnamese historians have been misleading instead of the good Vietnamese people [opponents] who are afraid of being arrested. It is very sad for some good Vietnamese people who want to be like us Khmer people who have a least freedom in Cambodia [but still under the false democratic under the Vietnamese puppet Hun Sen and corrupted CPP regime] and we will get there soon. I don't understand that some good Vietnamese [opponents] should join forces with Cambodian opposition in order to fight for freedom. Well, it is more complicated about either communist and non-communist Vietnamese people when it comes to their conflicts with Khmer people because of the conflicted history on Vietnamese side who have been brainwashed by their Vietnamese leaders, historians, professors or teachers.
So, thank you for your precise explanation to the Vietnamese bloggers. We as Khmer people need someone like you who is very well educated.
Khmer Yeurng
2:23 AM,
We can tell from your comment as the same person who started with words "Dumb Khmer" everywhere on KI and Khmerization. The reason is why you called your own Khmer people Dumb Khmer so that it misled the Khmer people think you are a Yuon spy. You need to get dumb word out of your mouth on Khmer people. You are not civilized with your own kinds. That means you are so mean person instead and you act like you are only one who is smart and want to face challenge against your own kinds. It sounds like you advertizing the words "Dumb Khmer" and you repeatedly mentioned "Dumb Khmer" until your own Khmer people or bloggers on here fought back against you who is stupid enough to let other neighbors scratch their heads and wonder, why Khmer people are so dumb. You are misleading yourself. That is why Khmer bloggers are very angry with you and called you Dumb Yuon, Dog eater, etc. You need to think about it. You screwed up yourself with words "Dumb Khmer." Khmer who called you Dumb Yuon are not wrong or it is not their Khmer bloggers' faults. Just give a warning. You are the one who initially started the words "Dumb Khmer" and caused the chaos on here in Ki-Media.
So, educate yourself and know you that well.
Khmer Yeung
Lok Heng Soy,
That's an excellent song you posted there and it makes me cry profusely while listening to it. So, cry with me or laugh at me all you want, but please let me say this - THANKS A MILLION!!!
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Correction for 3:00 AM
.....yourself and so you know that well.
Khmer Yeung
Correction for 2:41 AM
.....very good in the positive response to the Vietnamese blogger @11:46 PM. We totally agree with you. Time and
3:00 AM
Thank you for your kind advise. As I have mentioned before, I couldnt care less what the other DUMB Khmer thinks of me. All i want of them is to do something and stop blaming the YOUN for their suffering.
As for my education, I am capable of absorbing information than most former Khmer Rouge and Khmer Vietminh. But if any Khmer wants to debate without using evil YOUN then I am here to learn but I can also talk without my ego.
For for the dog eaters nonsense, dont point the fingers at me! No point in playing the blaming game. Point that at the DUMB Khmer. They enjoys talking nonsense to waste peoples time.
2:23 AM
If you give up on Khmers let me in, I am not Khmer/Cambodian.
Most of us now and scholars included knew where is the term "Yuon" came from. It was called "Yue" by Chinese, "Yuan" by Thai and Laotians, "Yuon" by Khmer, Cham and Degar (Montagnard).
The term "Yuon/Yue/Yuan" reminded the Vietnamese of their ancestors' brutally murdered, and their genocidal policies upon Cham, Degar, Khmer and the people of Laos. Now those terms became "racist", because the new Vietnamese claimed that they are sweet and honest not savage people. The Yuan/Yue/Yuon are still bloody murderers behind the public eyes, but the people who've observed them knew.
Using race card for that? It does not work anymore. If the Yue/Yuan/Yuon are really good people as they claimed they should get the hell out of Cambodia and Laos, I am sure the Khmers and Laotians will tolerate them, or otherwise.
You cannot force the victims to accept their killers as good people.
For my part, the son of bitch Ho Chi Minh was a notoriously killer who killed about 7.5 million lives including Laotian, Degar, Khmers and the Yuan/Yue/Yuon themselves.
I have many reasons to hate Viet Congs son of bitches and I am glad many share my view as anti-Yuan/Yuon/Yue.
A few Viet here call us racist, uncivilized…, but yet they like to visit KI.
If you hate someone you would not want to visit that person, it’s just a common sense, unless you want to hurt that person.
@ 1:26 AM: Not sure why you keep bringing ups things prior to the enforcement of sovereignty laws after I have asked you if U.S should give land back to Indians and China giving land back to the people they annexed hundreds of yrs ago.
2nd, HCM didn't create KR, both VietCong and KR were both created by Chinese Communist & Soviet Union, Ho Chi Minh never had the resources to create KR. He was a foot soldier of the Communist movement spreaded from Russia to China and else where. If you learn about him, you will know that Indochina Communist was fully funded and armed by Communist Russia & China before those 2 turned against each other. Yes, there was Communist tight between Vietcong and KR in the 60's, but all that rifted because Pol Pot, who has always hated VNmese, side with Chinese Communist, and VN sided with Soviet Union.
3rd, even if I conceed the notion that Vietcong had the intention of controlling Indochina, it cannot be logically inferred that Pol Pot, who carries deep hatred toward the Vnmese, took order from Vietcong to carry out the killing field while Pol Pot himself was relying on military support from China, who was already antagonizing against Vnmese.
4th, Even if you want to call it an invasion (after KR attacked VN first, as evident), CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, WOULD CAMBODIA HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF HAD KHMER ROUGE REMAINED IN POWER RATHER THAN VN OCCUPATION?, and, COULD YOU NAME NYONE OR ANY FORCES IN CAMBODIA IN 1979 CAPABLE OF PREVENTING POL POT KR, WHO WERE STILL BEING ARMED BY CHINA AND FULL RECOGNITION FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD, FROM RETURNING TO POWER IN CAMBODIA IN OR AFTER 1979 HAD VIETCONG RETRIEVED???
You cannot blame Vietnam for the destruction of Cambodian economy, the effort to reverse Khmers back to year zero, the elimination of educated Khmer/Chinese/Vietnamese Cambodians who were driving force of Cambodian society and economy. WHY WOULDN'T EVEN YOU DARE TO QUESTION CHINA COMMUNIST FOR THE WEAPON THEY PROVIDED KR TO MURDER YOUR PEOPLE???? Of course you won't do that, because once you defy logic and common sense, anything goes and nothing is learned. Fortunately, I believe there are decent Khmers out there who do!
3:33 AM
The Yue/Yuan/Yuon are very sweet in front of you, but watch out when you turn your back, they will stab you to death.
3:33 AM.
SO you are not a Khmer? Why do you also hate them?
Let me explain to you abit as you have seems to start late. I agree that YOUN is just a word. I also understand the history behind the words, for me I see nothing wrong with using the word. Its just a word.
Now the problem I have is.
Growing up in my Khmer communities inside Khmer and outside of Khmer, seeing many Khmer men doing exactly what they are doing right now. They enjoy blaming and cursing the YOUN for their misery yet they wont do anything about it!
Wouldnt the world be a better place if all these former Khmer Rouge and Khmer Vietminh dies soon? The next generation will start taking accountability unlike the coward Khmers!
3:40 AM said:
“HCM didn't create KR, both VietCong and KR were both created by Chinese Communist & Soviet Union,”
I partially agree with you on that.
But do you agree with me on this:
“HCM created Vietminh and Khmer Vietminh?
And Khmer Vietminh were the forefather of the KR.”
I look forward for reply.
I certainly wouldn't mind to lose a parcel of land for one of these ladies. THEY simply delicious.
Welcome to Cambodia!
4:04 AM
Delicious???
Are they like oysters to you?
3:36 AM
Someone no one hates anyone, maybe they are saying the truth! Sometime the truth hurts! Some DUMB Khmer are hurt when their ego is as huge as the size of their ignorant.
3:40 AM
Im replying from 2:23 AM, I disagree with you, and you need to take a look at the real facts and the accountability level.
1. On the enforcement of sovereignty laws. If the Vietnamese are not interested in taking our land or our nation in the past prior to the Pol Pot Regime, then why did we Khmer lost the country to the Vietnamese for 20 years.
2. If HCM didnt create the Khmer Rouge in the 70s, why were the Vietminh children kidnapped in the 60s and 50s. Khmer Rouge were just teachers and peasant farmers recruited from the country side, they couldnt have done anything without the help of the Vietnamese support. So who trained the Khmer Vietminh, and who supplied the weaponries in the early stage of Pol Pot up-rise?
3. Fact, if the Vietcong had no intention of controlling the Indochina, why are the Vietnamese trying to recreate history since the Pol Pot Regime, and why are they not allowing the victims of the Pol Pot Regime to find out the truth behind the killing field. If Hun Sen has nothing to hide, what is he worried about.
4. "Even if you want to call it an invasion (after KR attacked VN first, as evident)"
Now its starting to sound like, you are really a Vietnamese. Let me say this again. GO READ UP THE FACTS. It was an invasion, after the 7th January Invasion, they occupied the country for 10 years. During the 10 years occupation, they took many land and destroyed many houses along the border, worst of all, the Vietnamese used the uneducated Vietminh, to murdered 50,000 victims in one of the world biggest land mine field, known as K5 plan.
KR attacked VN first, as evident? Show us these evidence, there are plenty of REAL FACTS that shows, prior to the 1970s, in the 1960, many houses were burnt and robbed and many children were kidnapped and killed. So who attacked who first??
Again, you need to read up the history. the real history. Not the fake Pro-CPP history, that hailed Hun Sen and Vietname as the hero!
CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, WOULD CAMBODIA HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF HAD KHMER ROUGE REMAINED IN POWER RATHER THAN VN OCCUPATION?
-Cambodia would have been better off without the Vietnamese, Go research more facts!!! Weeks before the so called 7th January Invasion, UN forces were to enter Cambodia upon of hearing a genocide before their eyes. But it was to late, UN was forced to allow the so called "liberators" controls the situation and UN was a sitting duck!
3:40 AM
1st the native Americans did not form a Nation, they're scattering all over North America. But they are allowed to pay NO Taxes, and they can become President of the United State, should they prefer to run.
2nd: KR created by the Vietnamese Communist (Ho Chi Minh et al.)
Read "Thailand and the Southeast Asian networks of the Vietnamese Revolution 1885-1954." or go to this site http://janecadhlanews.blog4ever.com/blog/articles-cat-462157-616999-vietnam_expansionism_2.html
3rd Pol Pot found out later of the Vietnamese revolution..(see the link above), so he asked help from China (read part 2nd above). The Vietnamese were inside with Pol Pot posing as Khmer Rouge causing confusion, the killing started among Viet/Khmer Rouge. The same strategy they used in the past (First and Second Vietnamese Military Interventions in Cambodia). To get international support, the Vietnamese lured Pol Pot out then he was trapped by.
To understand why Sihanouk supported Viet communists (Go to Geopolitics and read a secret meeting between Zhou En lai and Pham Van Dong.)
4th It was both "Invasion" and/or "Life's saver", it depends who you talk to or depends on the events. For me I said "Invasion well orchestrated by the Vietnamese". That was after I read more about Phan Boi Chau in Dong Du movement.
3:49 AM
Why did you ask him this crazy question? He mentioned of Montagnards, Lao-Thai and so and so. So he is not Khmer. Why do you think only Khmer hate Yuon?
No, they are more like "Mussle" 4:19 AM. BTW, 4:04AM please forgive me for interjecting! But we cannot deny it...they are DE-LI-CIOUS!!!
Here we go the “Viet p***y” all over again and next to come is GOD.
I better get out of here now before I will not be able to find my way home again.
Yesterday my wife was pissed off when I got home, she made me eating Baay Kdaing and Baay Ka-ork with salt. Boo…Hoo…
No, not just yet 4:33 AM; we are about to hit the 200 mark just about now if not already...we will find our way home safe and sound with some fresh, juicy and delicious oysters for appetizers and main course...if GOD doesn't interfere with the trading...
4:43 AM, maybe it's just what in your head, Mister?
4:43 AM,
I know you don't care, but I hate your attitude now! So you know how to talk history...what's the BFD about it? If you continue to behave yourself like that...people will think of you as just a clumsy klutz Jack A%^%%^%!!! Got that?
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