Wednesday, July 25, 2012

Samphan's 'integrity' illuminated at Khmer Rouge court

Former Khmer Rouge head of state Khieu Samphan (C) attends a hearing at the ECCC on the outskirts of Phnom Penh last year. Photograph: ECCC/POOL

Wednesday, 25 July 2012
Bridget Di Certo
The Phnom Penh Post

Cambodian history scholar David Chandler yesterday echoed what has become a serial sentiment during testimony at the Khmer Rouge tribunal.

“[Khieu Samphan] was well known as a man of extreme and rather bewildering integrity,” Chandler testified in response to questions by the Case 002 co-acccused’s lawyers.

Chandler described Khieu Samphan as a shockingly incorruptible parliamentarian in the 1960s under then-King Norodom Sihanouk’s rule, a factor that inspired fear and anxiety in the monarch.

“He was just the kind of person Sihanouk didn’t know how to deal with,” Chandler said. “He [Sihanouk] had no experience with people that he couldn’t dominate, manipulate, purchase, rent.”

Amongst Sihanouk’s “crony circle”, Khieu Samphan’s honesty was “very rare indeed”, Chandler added.


Sihanouk was becoming anxious about Khieu Samphan, who, besides a possessing strong moral code, was known for his leftist ideals, Chandler said.

And “when Sihanouk got nervous, he got aggressive”, prompting Khieu Samphan to leave Phnom Penh in the ’60s and seek refuge in the countryside, where he later became a member of the central committee of the Communist Party of Kampuchea.

Chandler – who served as a US diplomat in the embassy in Phnom Penh during that era – conceded that Khieu Samphan’s leftist ideals had put him onto the radar for the Americans as well.

Frustration mounted between Chandler and Khieu Samphan’s Cambodian lawyer Kong Sam Onn in the afternoon during a confused exchange marred by translation difficulties and oral slip-ups.

Tension between Chandler and co-accused Ieng Sary’s lawyer Michael Karnavas similarly dominated the morning.

The two swayed between stern tones and limping apologies as Karnavas quizzed Chandler on his research methodology and the articulateness – or inarticulateness – of Chandler’s testimony over the four previous hearing days.

This included a laboured dissection of such Chandler turns of phrase as “I think”, “I feel” and “might be”, among others.

In an illustrative exchange touching on the gaps left by missing documentation from the Democratic Kampuchea period, Karnavas quizzed the historian on statements he had made as to how many documents may have existed during the regime.

“Your conclusion is a guess it is not?” Karnavas demanded.

“I am not going to say ‘my wobbly conviction is’… I corrected myself as I was talking. I could see ‘guess’ was too loose, so I changed it to ‘conclusion’,” Chandler shot back.

Chandler concludes his testimony today.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

$-អា មេធាវី នឹង អាចៅក្រមយួន (សេប៉េប៉េ) កណ្ដួយម៉ែវា គឺ:

ah mae thearvi ning ah chao krorm yuon CPP kanduoy mer vea keu :


1- អាចុយក្តិតម៉ែវា .............និល ណុន
ah choy kdet mer vea ...... NIL NONN

2-អាចុយម្រាយ ............យូ ប៊ុនឡេង
ah choy mray ......... YOU BUN LENG

3-អារន្ទះបាញ់ .............ឆាំង យុ
ah ronteas banh ........CHHANG YOUK

4-អាអាចម៍ក្ដ ..............ន័យ ថុល
ah ach kdor ............ NEY THOL

5-មី ចោរ កណ្ដួយប៉ះស្អិត-ហ៊ិតស្អុយ ! មីឆន្ទាអគតិ !
មី ចោរ កណ្ដួយស្ញេញ ......ជា លាង
- mi jor konduoy pass s'et-het s’oy!
- mi chhan tea ackatex !
- mi jor konduoy snh'enh.CHEA LEANG

6-អាគុក ................យូ ឧត្ដរា
ah kouk ............... YOU OTTARA

7-អាចុយទំពោកឆ្កែ .........ធូ មុន្នី
ah choy tumpauk chkae ..THOU MONY

8-អាងាប់មុនអាយុ ..........យ៉ា សុខាន់
ah ngoib mun ayuk ......YA SOKHAN

9-អាមុខខ្ទប់ប្រហុក ..........ហួត វុទ្ធិ
ah muk kj'orp prorhok ...HUOT VUTHY

10-អាកញ្ចាស់ចប ..........ប្រាក់ គឹមសាន
ah kanh jass jorb ......PRAK KIMSAN

11-អាក្ដស្អុយ .............ពិន ពេជ្ជលី
ah kdor s'oy ......... PEN PICHEALY

12-អាតាង៉ែន៨ជ្រុង .........គង់ ស្រឹម
ah ta-ngaen 8 jrung .....KONG SRIM

13-អាខ្មោចឆៅ .............សោម សេរីវុធ
ah khmorch chhao .....SOM SEREYVUTH

14-អាទំពែករែកដូង .........ស៊ិន រឹត
ah tumpek rek daung ....SIN RITH

15-អាឆ្កួត ................យ៉ាណារិន
ah chkourt ..............YA NARIN

16-អាឡក់តក់ ឡឺកឹ .........ម៉ុង មុនីចរិយា
ah lork tork leu keu .... MONG MONICHARYA

អាស្វាអស់នេះគង់តែតៃហោងទេ !!
Ah Sva ors nis kong ter taihorng teh !

Anonymous said...

ភ្លេចជេរខ្លួនឯងថា " អានរក.."  ទៅដល់ក្រោម យមភបាលនឹងចាប់ដេរមាត់ អោយនៅរន្ធបុិនគូថម្ជុល
ញាំុខ្ទុះជាអាហារ គួរអនិច្ចា ព្រោះបុិនជេរ ។

Anonymous said...

9:05PM

Agree with you.

អនិច្ចា អនិច្ចា អនិច្ចា !

Anonymous said...

គួរជេរអានរក ស៊ីខ្ទុះ-ស៊ីអាចម៍- យមភបាលនឹងចាប់ដេរក្តិត-កាត់ក្ដ អា 9:05 PM
និង អាអនិច្ចា-អនិច្ចចោរ 10:56 PM ផងដែរ

Anonymous said...

Khieu Sapmphan, Hou Nim and Hou Yun,

After my research in Cambodia before Khieu Samphan was arrested by ECCC.

I found as follow ...:

Minority dislike Khieu Samphan. 30%

Majority like, respect and honor Khieu Samphan, Hou Nim and Hou yun for their legal fihgting for social juctice in Khmer society during during Sihanouk regime 1960s.

Majoirty espcially Cambodian elderly believe that Khieu Samphan, Hou Nim and Hou yun never committed corruption that included Khmer people who used to lived along Thai Khmer border during 1980s.

Majority believed Khieu Samphan had no power during 1975-1979 that include former senior Khmer Rouge living along Khmer-Thai border since 1979 till now, they said even Khieu Samphan had no millary skills or military talent as Pol Pot, Ta Mok and Son Sen to led the or not qualify to lead the former Khmer fighters the olny two main reasons that Khieu Smaphan supported Pol Pol's strong policy anti yuon known as Indochina Federatoin to swallow Cambodia and to exterminate ethnic Cambodian wihic is very true, just look the influx of million yuon into Cambodan after 1979, another reason was wheather you hate Pol Pot or not Pol Pol working very hard with and behind Khieu Samphan to have a small or big contribution in 1991 Paris Peace Agreement.

In summari, majority Cambodian regard Khiue Samphan, Hou Nim and Hou Yun as good men:

the men always stood besside the poor Cambodian.

these 3 men always fight for Khmer social justice for the poor .

these 3 men always put their own and their families interests behind natinal interest.


these 3 men really concerned about Indochina Fedeatin to swallow Camnbodia and to exterminate ethnic Cambodan.

Anonymous said...

khiev and his KR leadership were primitive, ignorant, inexperienced, incompetent, stupid, outdated, etc that's why they did what they did in cambodia during their stupid, primitive regime rule from 1975 to 1979. they were so stupid. i never seen anybody else in the history of cambodia so stupid and primitive like these brutal KR leaders. they destroyed cambodia, killed or hurt or abused or starved millions of their own countrymen from 1975 to 1979, they were psychopath and very primitive and very uncivilized, ignorant, outdated, evil like t'mil or devil or mean spirited people like we say in the civilized world. i say put them in dark prison until they die from natural cause, really!

Anonymous said...

people in the beginning thought the he (khiev samphan and his KR clique were good because they did not think of the earlier sign of him choosing to ride bicycle instead of car, live in a hut instead of a villa, kept his family dirt poor, instead of provide for them, etc, etc; and people then sympathize with his primitive way, until they saw his true color when he's in control during his stupid, primitive KR regime, his KR regime were brutal, primitive and stupid and ignorant beyond repair, and look what happened to cambodia and people lives under his stupid, primitive KR communism rule. and why would anybody still wanted to support that again? that is psychotic, really! i never seen any gov't in the world as stupid and ignorant and primitive as his brutal, outdated KR regime, really!

Anonymous said...

Dear 12.02 PM,

Let me quote part of your comment:

Khieu Samphan choosing to ride bicycle instead of car, live in a hut instead of a villa, kept his family dirt poor, instead of provide for them, etc, etc;

end of quote:

That very true:

During 1960s after Khieu Samphan came back from from France he got only one and onen only apple for his widow mother , and he rode a bycicle to and from work, he refused so many corruption and after he refused so many time the chinese-Cambodian guy pointed his fingers to Khieu Samphan face and said you ( Khieu Samphan dared to refuse my money you would see what I could do to you and your family, said the chinese-Cambodian marchant man.

As 12:02 PM said :

and my comment:

1. Khieu Samphan chose to ride a bycicle intead of a car because his salary could not offord a car but he gave 90 % of his salary to his widow mum who sold dried banana on the street while Khieu Samphan already became Commerce Mininster of Sihanouk regime.


2. Khieu Samphan chose to live in a hut instead of a villa the same apply to my comment above, because his salary could not afford it.

3. Khieu Samphan kept his family dirty poor ( that really happened to Khieu Samaphan family but to me it call putting family interests behind natinal interest ) These apply not only to Khieu Samphan but also apply to Hou Nim and Hou Yun as well to me these 3 guys had devoted their lives for Khmer social interests.

Anonymous said...

Correction from 12:36 PM,


During 1950s ( 1959 ) after Khieu Samphan came back from from France he got only one and one only apple for his widow mother.