by Fred Branfman
Sept 2010 - Huffington Post
Henry Kissinger - credit: google |
Hillary Clinton with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger - credit: google |
"In Cambodia, Kissinger told Alexander Haig to undertake "a massive bombing campaign in Cambodia. Anything that flies or anything that moves," the clearest possible violation of international law requiring the protection of civilians. Two million people in Khmer Rouge zones, as estimated by the U.S. Embassy, were driven underground by massive U.S. bombing that featured regular B52 carpet-bombing of undefended villages."
Future historians will marvel at how U.S. leaders failed to learn from their horrific crimes in Indochina, and are instead repeating so many of them today.
Nothing more symbolizes how the temptations of how power can corrupt youthful values and idealism than Secretary Hillary Clinton's invitation to Henry Kissinger and Richard Holbrooke to keynote a major State Department conference on the history of the Indochina war. As an idealistic college student, Clinton protested Kissinger's mass murder of civilians in Indochina. She knows full well that had the international laws protecting civilians in war been applied to Kissinger's bombing of civilian targets in Indochina he would have been indicted for crimes of war.
But on Sept. 29 she will introduce Kissinger at the State Department Historian's conference, giving him a platform to continue 40 years of Orwellian deception in which he has sought to blame Congress for the fall of Indochina rather than accepting responsibility for his own massive miscalculations and indifference to human suffering.
Clinton has also invited Richard Holbrooke, who as State Department head of Afghanistan/Pakistan policy has learned nothing from history and is repeating precisely the same policies that caused the U.S. to lose in Indochina -- support of a corrupt and unpopular regime that cannot stand on its own. Inviting Holbrooke is particularly egregious, because following Obama's strategy review, according to Bob Woodward's new book. "Perhaps the most pessimistic view came from Richard Holbrooke. 'It can't work,' he said." Lacking even a fraction of the integrity and moral courage of a Daniel Ellsberg, however, Holbrooke continues to promote in public a policy he privately believes is doomed to fail.
"We all have a natural tendency to want to forget an unpleasant past. Many of us whose lives were deeply affected by the Indochina war particularly prefer to put those years of anguish, divisiveness and anger behind us.Unfortunately, it is not that simple. Those who cannot remember the past are indeed condemned to repeat it."
Inviting Kissinger to keynote a conference on U.S. history in Indochina insults history, the memories of tens of thousands of Americans and countless Indochinese civilians who needlessly died as a result of his policies, the young people of America who desperately need to learn the truth about what occurred in Indochina so as not to repeat it, and all those who oppose indiscriminate mass murder of civilians.
Giving Kissinger and Holbrooke a platform also has important policy implications for the present.
An attempt is currently being made to build support for today's war-making in Afghanistan and Pakistan by claiming that the reason the U.S. lost Indochina was because it was "stabbed in the back" by a Congress that cut off aid to Thieu. This view is being articulated not only by Kissinger and other Nixon-era officials but a younger cadre of military officers, most notably Lt. Colonel Louis Sorley in his book A Better War -- which has been, according to the Wall Street Journal, "recommended in multiple lists put out by military officers, including a former U.S. commander in Afghanistan, who passed it out to his subordinates."
As President Obama was considering Afghan policy last fall, Newsweek reported that "Louis Sorley's book argues ... that the military was stabbed in the back by its civilian leaders ... the United States could have won in Vietnam if only the U.S. Congress hadn't cut off military aid to South Vietnam. The most surprising guidance Vietnam may have to offer (to Afghanistan) is not that wars of this kind are unwinnable but that they can produce victories if presidents resist the temptation to fight wars halfway or on the cheap."
Sorley's contention is absurd. The evidence is overwhelming that the Thieu regime lost to its enemies because it was a corrupt and unpopular police-state, and its troops were far less motivated to fight than those of the other side. U.S. military aid to Saigon in 1974-'75 was two to four times as great as Soviet and Chinese aid to the North Vietnamese, and the Thieu army was well supplied with ammunition and fuel up to the very end.
Kissinger's mistake in Vietnam, like the Obama/Petraeus policy in Afghanistan today, was to try and prop up an unpopular and corrupt government that could not stand on its own. It is not Congress but Kissinger and Presidents Ford and Nixon who bear the responsibility for the fall of Saigon.
Henry Kissinger's Record in Indochina
Henry Kissinger managed U.S. policy in Indochina as National Security Adviser for Richard Nixon and Secretary of State for Gerald Ford, from January 20 1969 until the fall of Saigon on April 30 1975. During this time Kissinger needlessly prolonged U.S. war-making in which 20,853 Americans were killed and an officially U.S.-estimated 7,860,013 Indochinese were murdered, maimed or made homeless. That's right. The policies Kissinger orchestrated created nearly eight million war victims, almost as much as the 8,745,207 Indochinese war victims created by Lyndon Johnson when 550,000 U.S. troops were based in South Vietnam.
Most of these U.S. and Indochinese lives could have been saved had Kissinger negotiated a deal with the North Vietnamese in 1969, as urged by Averill Harriman, Clark Clifford, Cyrus Vance and many others. Such a deal would also have allowed the U.S. to leave Vietnam with far more dignity than occurred with the total defeat of U.S.-supported forces in April 1975. (Note: Official U.S. statistics in this and succeeding paragraphs are taken from "Indochina War Statistics - Dollars and Deaths", Congressional Record, May 14 1975, pp. 14262-66.)
Kissinger orchestrated the most massive bombing in world history, dropping 3,984,563 million tons on an area inhabited by some 50 million people, twice the 2 million tons dropped on hundreds of millions through Europe and the Pacific in World War II. He dropped 1.6 million tons on South Vietnam, as many as Lyndon Johnson at the height of U.S. involvement; quadrupled the bombing of Laos, from 454,200 to 1,628,900 million tons; initiated widespread bombing of previously peaceful Cambodia, including B52 carpet bombing of undefended villages, for a total of 600,000-1 million tons; and vastly expanded the bombing of civilian targets in North Vietnam.
Much of this bombing struck civilian targets throughout Indochina.
In Laos, where I interviewed over 1,000 refugees from the Plain of Jars, every single one said their villages had been destroyed by U.S. bombing which escalated tremendously in 1969, and that the main victims were civilians because the soldiers could move through the thick forests largely undetected, while old people, mothers and children were forced to stay near their villages.
In Cambodia, Kissinger told Alexander Haig to undertake "a massive bombing campaign in Cambodia. Anything that flies or anything that moves," the clearest possible violation of international law requiring the protection of civilians. Two million people in Khmer Rouge zones, as estimated by the U.S. Embassy, were driven underground by massive U.S. bombing that featured regular B52 carpet-bombing of undefended villages.
In North Vietnam, Kissinger conducted the most savage B52 bombing of urban targets in history, as the New York Times reported in 1972: "United States military leaders are being permitted to wage the air war as they want in Indochina. There appears to be less concern with the civilians this time in view of the freedom given the air commanders and the attempt to cut off food, clothing and medical supplies." Kissinger boasted to Richard Nixon, "It's wave after wave of planes. You see, they can't see the B52 and they dropped a million pounds of bombs ... I bet you we will have had more planes over there in one day than Johnson had in a month ... each plane can carry about 10 times the load of World War II plane could carry."
Kissinger orchestrated the U.S. invasion of Cambodia, a disastrous miscalculation that led directly to the Khmer Rouge takeover five years later. I visited Cambodia in April 1970, shortly after the U.S. supported Lon Nol in overthrowing Prince Sihanouk. U.S. Embassy officials then estimated there were no more than 100 Khmer Rouge, and were not even sure that Khmer Rouge leaders Khieu Samphan or Ieng Sary were alive. As William Shawcross described in Sideshow: Kissinger, Nixon and the Destruction of Cambodia, it was Kissinger's overthrowing Sihanouk, supporting the corrupt and unpopular Lon Nol regime and massive bombing that created the Khmer Rouge and brought it to power. Kissinger then compounded his brutality by supporting the genocidal Khmer Rouge, telling the Thai Foreign Minister on November 26, 1975, that "you should also tell the Cambodians [i.e. Khmer Rouge government] that we will be friends with them. They are murderous thugs, but we won't let that stand in the way. We are prepared to improve relations with them. Tell them the latter part, but don't tell them what I said before." Had Nixon and Kissinger not invaded Cambodia there is no reason to believe the Khmer Rouge would ever have come to power.
Kissinger diverted billions of dollars in Food for Peace, meant to feed the starving, to the Thieu and Lon Nol armies.
He violated the U.S. constitution by secretly bombing Cambodia and Laos without Congressional authorization. And his representatives regularly perjured themselves before Congress, as when former U.S. Ambassador to Laos William Sullivan testified to the Kennedy Subcommittee on Refugees on April 22, 1971, that the U.S. only bombed military targets in Laos.
Who Lost Indochina: Kissinger or Congress?
"Had I thought it possible that Congress would, in effect, cut off aid to a beleaguered ally, I would not have pressed for an agreement as I did in the final negotiations in 1972."
-- Henry Kissinger, Ending the Vietnam War, 2003
"The Defense Department said today that despite Congressional reductions in military aid, South Vietnamese forces were not critically short of either ammunition or fuel."
-- "U.S. Says Arms Situation in Vietnam Is Not Critical," New York Times, March 27, 1975
Kissinger began to try to blame Congress for the fall of Saigon even before April 30, 1975. Sorley's book contends that the failure of the North Vietnamese spring 1972 offensive in South Vietnam proves that Thieu forces could have prevailed in April 1975. Newsweek, interviewing Sorley,reported that "in 1974, breaking Nixon's promises of continued support to Saigon, the U.S. Congress cut off all aid to South Vietnam. Without logistical support or air cover, the South Vietnamese army collapsed in 1975 and the communists swept into South Vietnam."
Former Defense Secretaries Melvin Laird and James Schlesinger, along with Kissinger, have consistently maintained the North Vietnamese were receiving more aid from the Soviet Union and Chinese than were the South Vietnamese from the United States.
None of this is even remotely true:
Congress did not "cut off all aid to South Vietnam," as Kissinger falsely claims. On the contrary. Congress in August 1974 only reduced military aid to Thieu from $1.2 billion to $700 million.
The $700 million in military aid voted by Congress "is apparently running at twice that of Chinese and Soviet military aid to North Vietnam," according to the New York Times on March 27, 1975. The CIA estimated that U.S. military aid of $1.7 billion to Thieu in 1974 was four times the $400 million it estimated the North Vietnamese received from the Soviet Union and China. All told, official figures show the U.S. spent $141 billion in Vietnam from 1961-'75, compared to $7.5-$8 billion in Soviet and Chinese aid to North Vietnam during the same period (Congressional Record, May 14, 1975, p. 14262).
Sorley's contention that the failure of the North Vietnamese 1972 offensive proved the Thieu army could stand on its own is particularly absurd. Sorley himself quotes General Creighton Abrams, the head of U.S. forces in South Vietnam, as saying "on this question of the B-52s and the tac air 'it's very clear to me that this (the Thieu) government would now have fallen, and this country would now be gone, and we wouldn't be meeting here today, if it hadn't been for the (U.S.) B-52s and the tac air. There's absolutely no question about it."
During the 1972 offensive, the Times reported on May 3, 1972, that "the growing consensus among Americans here is that the South Vietnamese forces have proven unequal to the task of defending it." And on May 19, 1972, that "despite four years of Vietnamization, American and South Vietnamese military commanders here have relied less on the Government's ground troops to stem the current North Vietnamese offensive than on an instrument of massive bombing that only the Americans have -- the B-52"; from Anloc on June 24, 1972, that "American advisers here say that the South Vietnamese helicopters are not flying because the crews have panicked under fire and suffer from low morale"; and on October 7, 1972, that "both American and South Vietnamese forces in South Vietnam say that the B-52s played a major role in halting the North Vietnamese offensive last spring as government units were disintegrating."
Neil Sheehan reported in his biography of U.S. adviser John Paul Vann, who directed U.S. and Vietnamese military forces in Region III in the spring of 1972 that "Vann did not see the fallacy in his victory. He did not see that in having to assume total control at the moment of crisis, he had proved the Saigon regime had no will of its own to survive."
Conclusion: Repeating History
"The past is never dead. It's not even past"
--William Faulkner"He who controls the past controls the future; he who controls the present controls the past."-- George Orwell, 1984. We all have a natural tendency to want to forget an unpleasant past. Many of us whose lives were deeply affected by the Indochina war particularly prefer to put those years of anguish, divisiveness and anger behind us.
Unfortunately, it is not that simple. Those who cannot remember the past are indeed condemned to repeat it.
Future historians will marvel at how U.S. leaders so thoroughly failed to learn from their horrific mistakes and crimes in Indochina, and have instead repeated so many of them today in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. It is clear to all but the most blind or brainwashed that the basic lesson of Indochina is that the United States cannot create democratic and stable governments out of corrupt, brutal, autocratic and unpopular warlords who can neither direct nor motivate their own people.
Secretary Clinton is not only insulting history and betraying her own past by giving a platform to Henry Kissinger to continue distorting history; she is betraying America today, foolishly perpetuating policies toward the Muslim world that can only end in even greater losses for the U.S.
35 comments:
The most disappointed and a disaster for Cambodian opposition is President Obama didn't intervene in a convicted criminal Sam Rainsy's case when he talked with PM Hun Sen in Cambodia. Thus, how can Sam Rainsy return to Cambodia as he has always said all along????
Sam Rainsy's political career is dead in the water. Please enjoy life after politics.
Pi Anh.
Here is how the account of human history began...
God created man (Adam) made him a woman (Eve). And they bore two sons, Cain and Able. Able brought offering to God (clean animals) for worship by sacrificing the animals before him and God accepted Able's sacrifices.
But Cain brought fruits as his offering to God and God rejected his sacrifices. God told Cain that he can only accept blood sacrifice from clean animals so he must change his offering to be brought before him. Cain refused to change. Cain got mad at God and his brother Able, and one day Cain killed his brother Able, a innocent man whom God was pleased with.
Able represents the righteous one and Cain represents the evil one who killed his own brother because he was righteous before God his Creator.
There are two people groups in this world that was set forth as example by the lives of these two brothers from the beginning of humankind.
Evil is made to prevail until the End of time of this Age. The righteous are always few in number among the wicked who will kill his own brother because they won't listen to their Creator, but rather go their own way to destruction at the End.
Cain also represent the Devil. He did the will of his father the devil by killing his own brother.
Jesus came from the line of Able, who was righteous in God's sight. And he did the will of his Father which is in heaven. But the line of Cain rose up killed Jesus too. But was all planned by God his Father.
So from these two brothers I can see the whole picture of humanity on earth, the righteous and the unrighteous and what lineage they belong too doesn't matter about ethnic background.
THERE ARE CAMPAIGNS BY HUMAN RIGHT INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS TO REMOVE HUN XEN FROM POWER AND HUN XEN HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATION HAS BEEN GETTING INTERNATIONAL ATTENTION. THIS IS A GOOD SIGN FOR DEMOCRACY IN CAMBODIA ALL HARD WORK BY SAMRAINSY HAS PROVEN TO HUN XEN THAT HUN XEN HAS BEEN UNDERMINE WHEN HE CRITICIZE SAMRAINSY WHO HAS 2 CITIZENSHIP AND RUN FROM HIS SUPPORTER. IN THE END INTERNATIONAL SUPPORT HAS HAUNTED HUN XEN AT LAST. THIS IS BECAUSE SAMDECH HUN XEN HAS A SCUMBAG BRAIN AND EDUCATION STATUS.
Pi Anh,
You and your CPP clans are just small actors enjoying the beating of your own people. Time will only tell if repeating Sihanouk's approach and legacy will produce a different and better result than the last tragedy.
10:54 PM
You have never posted any comment that can make sense at all, since I have followed and read few of few posters posted their comments and you appears to be a radical extremist or a domineering person who embraces a dictatorial person with no shame or who does not have any regard toward other beings who have higher intelligence than you and yours.
You must be a truly evil person that is why you have always written very insolent replies.
If you have some sort of intelligence, you get to accept the fact that ""What goes up must come down".
10:54 PM
You have never posted any comment that can make sense at all, since I have followed and read few of few posters posted their comments and you appear to be a radical extremist or a domineering person who embraces a dictatorial person with no shame or who does not have any regard toward other beings who have higher intelligence than you and yours.
You must be a truly evil person that is why you have always written very insolent replies.
If you have some sort of intelligence, you get to accept the fact that ""What goes up must come down".
Ah Pi Anh.
10:54 PM
ឯកឧត្ដម ខៀវ កញ្ញារឹទ្ធិ បានប្រាប់សន្និសិទ
អន្ដរជាតិថា ចំណែកសំណុំរឿង សម រង្ស៊ី ស្អីស្អីហ្នឹង...
សមេ្តចបណ្ឌិតអគ្គមហាសេនាបតីតេជោ ហ៊ុន សែន វរ្ម័នទី១ ទេវតាគ្រប់គ្រងរដ្ឋកម្ពុជា លោកមានប្រសាសន៍នៅទីស្ដីកាគណៈរដ្ឋមន្រ្តី
ក្រោយកិច្ចប្រជុំកំពូលអាស៊ានរួចហើយថា :
"ទណ្ឌិតសម រង្ស៊ី" អាចចូលមកស្រុកបាន
ប៉ុន្ដែត្រូវដើរមកចូលគុក "តេ៣" គ្រប់១២ឆ្នាំសិន
ទើបចូលនៅស្រុកបាន ហើយនឹង ឈរឈ្មោះបោះឆ្នោតម្ដងទៀតបាន។
ម៏….ម៏ចូលគុក១២ឆ្នាំសិនទៅ!
Henry Kissinger is not biased, he did what he saw it necessary. He called his own Jews "a self serving bastard". He even rejected helping Jews in the gas Chamber in Soviet Unions. Kissinger hates Self serving, Communist bastard, that was the reasons he bombed on them.
Cambodia is in the hands of Viet bastards, how the Cambodians can free themselves is their destinies.
As long as the Viet thieves are in control, do not blame Kissinger or any one else.
Blame on the fucking Buddhists who destroyed the empire and led the nation to downfall because of their stupidity and lazy do nothing but destroyed the Khmer economy. Now the Viet thieves hold the peasants Hun Sen and his uneducated idiots by the throats while more Khmer Buddhists keep growing the schemes of building more temples, more million monks to collect the money.
1:57 AM
I think you brought up a realistic ideas.
For one thing, Buddhism is not fitted to stay next to this communist non religion Vietnam.
To have peace, you got to have strong mind so that Vietnam stop pushing you around to fight each other.
Ah Pi Anh is a communist idiots. He and ah Hun Cong will be buried together with ah Ho Chi Shit. Bitches!!!!
Kissinger is without a doubt a legal mass murderer who shall burn in hell if one does exist!
It is appalling to know that this man, who ordered the bombing of anything that flew or anything that moved in the undefended villages of peaceful Cambodia, continues to receive recognition from American officials at the level of Hilary Clinton. With the order to bomb Cambodia in this manner Kissinger was also showing his lack of strategy and running out of options as to what to do with the North Vietnamese fighters whose morale superseded that of their corrupt brothers in the south.
B-52 bombings on innocent Cambodian villages did not accomplish any military gains, but resulted in paradoxical spreading of North Vietnamese forces deeper into Cambodia and their easy recruiting and training of more KR soldiers to fight to accomplish their hidden agenda in Cambodia.
I find it very hard or impossible not to acknowledge the cleverness of their strategists and the stupidity and greed of the Cambodians leaders, who knew full well their intentions in Cambodia, and yet make it possible for them to accomplish their goals so easily and now legally.
Well, folks! We can only blame ourselves since at this moment as a country and as a people with the water running right into our noses, we still do not know the right things to do and continue to fight among each other with no sight and sign of new vision, reconciliation, and unity strongly needed to save the sinking ship of Cambodia.
Theary Seng is not wrong in putting up Kissinger face for her dart game as I would not mind throwing several darts at the face of this not yet punished criminal!
Pissed Off
Where is Human Right for Cambodians Victims of American bombing B-52 ?
Where? and why? Is it truth those Victims unhuman being as American citizen?
See If American President reconizes and apology to those victims, it will cost American trillions US dollars plus war crime charge to American top rang officers. Therefore, American president will continue ignore those issues and keep cooperative with Hun Sen to keep those issues slilence.
Can people stop thinking about the past. The main culprit was Ah Sihanouk who attracted the war to Cambodia by giving Ah Vietcong Cambodia's land as sanctuary to attack the US and South Vietnam, resulting the bombings on Cambodia.
That was the damn past.
The present is Vietnam is swallowing Cambodia. This is the issue that Khmer people must find the solution.
Stop allowing those people shift our attention from the vital issue.
Notice that I've never seen this "Pissed off" said anything about Vietnam's interference or dominance in Cambodia.
The devil and the bitch having a giggle
Vietnamese interference in Cambodian politics is a known fact and there is nothing to be said about it.
You can say all you want and if you are not united and still stupid to fight among each other and some of you are willing to work for the interests of foreigners in order to keep yours at the expense of your tragic country then the whole world won't give a damn to what is happening in your backyard!
Cursing the Vietnamese is not going to help anything!
This important that i tell people who don't think about war time start in south Cambodia America fully wrong about this war they should read history who the land belong to ,why they help to fight for Vietnamese Khmer belonging.A time that B52 bomber in Cambodia because Sihanook let Vietcong play roll in our border land to easy to blame American.Kragnung Easan.
2:21 AM
You meant following the Indian man named Gotama Buddha is having a strong mind and will reach peace?
It depends on what situation. But in the situations that involved with sovereignty of a nation following Gotama's way is a suicidal path. To reach peace, it has to make WAR (UN troops), and to win the war a strong military must be formed.
To use Gotama's path to have peace with enemy like Yuon and Chinese, it is very stupid. Gotama's path can be used only toward among the community but not Nation vs. Nation.
The Empire collapsed because the empire's economy became weak and weaker, then collapsed. The economy became weak and weaker because there're million men became monks left the poor people to work to support them.
Only Thailand stays around because the King rules and reigns both, his "Lese Majesty Laws" keeps his nation continues, but how long?
2:21 AM
A strong mind against Yuon is to Unite and to re-open Paris Peace Accord 1991 and that Yuon must respect it and must return the land on the mainland and all islands that Yuon robbed or bought from Hun Sen back, because Ah Hun Xen does not own Khmer land.
9:02 AM
By now you still don't learn anything? Why blaming King Sihanouk for Kissinger's bombing on Cambodia?
Every time when talk about Cambodia, some of you fucking shit head always drag it down and blame King Sihanouk.
The silent invasion by Yuon Communist was long since Yuon started their BASE in Thailand called "Thailand and the Southeast Asian networks of the Vietnamese Revolution 1885-1954."
Dr. Gosha (Historian) further wrote that Yuon determined to take Cambodia and Laos by converting their revolution (expansionism) to a CONFLICT War (Vietnam War) dragging every one to involve with their war, while they (Yuon) silently took control Cambodia in all every political stripes. Bui Tin mentioned that the secret route in Laos and Cambodia existed long and long times ago (Yuon created by themselves), and to make a case legitimize Yuon asked Sihanouk to agree helping them. The enemy with a strong army were already in your house and put the guns on your head threatening you "Helping me or I blow your head off".
You need to shut your stupid mouth and carefully read and THINK, you idiot bastard, and THINK. Blaming King Sihanouk is YUON's Strategy. I used to blame him, but now I knew, it was YUON alone no one else but YUON (Expansionism designed to fool everyone).
From ah YUON Phan Boi Chau to ah Pham Van Dong and Ah Ho Chi Minh.
1:08 AM
You are YUON who has always LIED. Read my post @ 1:48AM
May be "Pissed Off" is Theary Seng.
But whatever pissed off said in here, I 100% Disagree with this individual.
Kissinger served the US and the US fought the Communists. The last Campaign of Dr. Henry Kissinger bombing on Laos and Cambodia on Ho Chi Minh's trail was to let the Communists (Yuon, China, and Soviet Unions) knew "That we(US) knew, and that we (US) can destroy you all in a few second and in anytime.
The US did not gain from that war, es. the whole nation (US Citizen) protested against that war, Dr. Kissinger decided to contact his friend, China's Premier Zhou En Lai on the phone, telling Premier Zhou to take over South Vietnam was acceptable.
"Kissinger Told China Communist Takeover in Vietnam Was Acceptable"
On His Exit, not just Dr. Kissinger, every powerful leaders would leave a WARNING Sign toward their opponents such as these bombs to let the Communists knew "We (US) can annihilate you (Communists)anytime if we so desired" then left this Conflict WAR, the created by Yuon to fool the world with their Expansionism in Cambodia.
If I were Dr. Kissinger, I would do the same.
I support Dr. Henry Kissinger's policies.
Dr. Henry Kissinger is always forever my role model.
May be "Pissed Off" is Theary Seng.
But whatever pissed off said in here, I 100% Disagree with this individual.
Kissinger served the US and the US fought the Communists. The last Campaign of Dr. Henry Kissinger bombing on Laos and Cambodia on Ho Chi Minh's trail was to let the Communists (Yuon, China, and Soviet Unions) knew "That we(US) knew, and that we (US) can destroy you all in a few second and in anytime.
The US did not gain from that war, es. the whole nation (US Citizen) protested against that war, Dr. Kissinger decided to contact his friend, China's Premier Zhou En Lai on the phone, telling Premier Zhou to take over South Vietnam was acceptable.
"Kissinger Told China Communist Takeover in Vietnam Was Acceptable"
On His Exit, not just Dr. Kissinger, every powerful leaders would leave a WARNING Sign toward their opponents such as these bombs to let the Communists knew "We (US) can annihilate you (Communists)anytime if we so desired" then left this Complex WAR, the WAR that created by Yuon who transformed their networks base in Thailand to a complex WAR to fool the world with their Expansionism in Cambodia. (in Chapter 3, History book, by Dr. Gosha).
If I were Dr. Kissinger, I would do the same.
Condemning Dr. Kissinger is purely YUON'S STRATEGY.
So many American condemn Kissinger, I wonder how YUON'S STRATEGY plays a role in that!
Ask Sirimatak what he thought of his friend Kissinger and US before his last day in Phnom Penh on April 17, 1975!
To refuse to be uplifted to a safe place and to be willing to let oneself and the whole family die like Sirimatak shows how disappointing he was with Kissinger and uncle SAM.
2:28 AM,
It is too bad you did not live in the bombed areas of Cambodia during that time!
I like to see your face when those bombs fall on your head and I like to hear you shout "I agree with Kissinger's policies of carpet bombing..." before you are consumed completely by the bombs.
4:13 AM
Will your idea help the current situation in Cambodia?
To be fair, how did the American
soldiers feel when the Vietcong attacked them by using Cambodia as a launching pad?
That was the damn past. It will help but hurt Cambodia. Stop bringing that shit up.
If that Teary Sick girl was crazy, you don't have to be crazy like her too.
Correction: It will NOT help but hurt Cambodia.
Dr. Henry Kissinger's decision was right, he ordered the massive B-52 bombing campaign in Cambodia. Anything that flies or anything that moves. right on.... Because,
those were vietcong and Khmer Rouge sanctuary.
I suppoted Dr. Kissinger's decision , without him there is no more Cambodia today.
He bombed the hell out of vietcong that hide in Cambodia at that time.
Thanks Dr. Kissinger
You are my Hero amd my mentor!
Oh my God!
Cambodia was saved by Kissinger's decision to bomb her?
The bombs killed the Vietcongs, my ass!
Go to Cambodia and talk to people who lived in those areas at the time and you will know, young boy!
Kissinger had no interest in saving Cambodia, learn your history again, young Khmer American!
Where is Human right to the Victims of President Nixon and Mr Henry Kissenger.
Can the opposition leaders dare to fight for the victims justice?
Ho Chi Minh promised (tricked) Sihanouk that he will give back Khmer Kampuchea Krom to Cambodia if Sihanouk allowed Vietnam to use Cambodia territory for their supply line to fight the Vietnam war. The gullible Sihanouk believed Ho Chi Minh , thus, turning a blind eye for Vietnam using Cambodia territory along the border even though it was against against Cambodian constitution of a neutral state. The American govt was not happy but could not do anything about it but did illegal bombing anyway along Cambodia border which led to massive rallies and protest in the United States. However Henry Kissinger, the advisor to shamed president, Richard Nixon wasn't giving up just yet, they somehow tried to legitimize their action of more bombing by aiding General Lon Nol for a power grab/coupe from the then Sihanouk the ruler. The American soldiers started pouring into Cambodia to train the Cambodian soldiers to fend off the Vietnamese infiltration and so the grow of the American aids and loans. The bombing continued until about a month before Khmer Rouge took control of Cambodia in April 17, 1975. I remembered the sky always red eastern of Phnom Penh, that was where I lived. So after Phnom Penh felt, Saigon also felt not much far behind. After the war was over, Ho Chi Minh killed himself. So, the promise to give Khmer Kampuchea Krom back to Cambodia was never happened.
Sihanouk was in France furious has no one to turn to but the Khmer Rouge of his resistance which was then was just a small rebel group to the Sihanouk regime himself for corruption and other evil things in his gov't. With tremendous popularity support, Sihanouk was able to attract a lot of people to join the KR resistance, only this time it is again General Lon Nol whose Cambodia was busy with wars. Phnom Penh felt to the hands of KR, as I remembered, people were joyous, jubilant of the war being over and Cambodians would finally found peace again. My father was ill got well. With the scare of Americans would bombed Phnom Penh, everyone believed the KR soldiers and left Phnom Penh as quick as possible. Sihanouk was locked in the palace powerless. To the KR he was not their main man, they never like him in the first place but used him of his popularity to gain membership and support.
All in all, Cambodia was powerless to control its own destiny. Sihanouk wanted good for his people but he made some major mistakes which led to the trouble of Vietnamese infiltration into Cambodia territories with the wish of taking Cambodia in one day, the joining with the Khmer Rouge which led to the loss millions of lives (though not his wish) along with immeasurable among of human capital loss and social illnesses, humiliation and identity crises, last but not least mediation for Hun Sen to be the co-prime minister with his son with the displeasure of so many Cambodian intellectuals beside his low moral values CPP Cambodians, for the way he rules the country with so many imbalances and disadvantages to its eastern neighbor especially.
All of these Sihanouk initiatives has put Cambodia downward in history. These are some of very important lesson for all current and future Khmer leaders to learn. Why and what caused Cambodia to become a nation of strong to a nation aid dependent and suffering?
1:41 PM
That is a good and true story about Cambodia.
You have rightly shown who was at fault.
1:41 PM
What you wrote are LIES. Because I and others cannot find any references to support your claims in anywhere. You just wrote from what you heard but not written in the documents (History).
12:47 PM
Dr. Henry Kissinger did his job, the job that every world leaders do or had done. Bombing on Cambodia was not to save anyone, but to attack the enemy (Yuon) inside Cambodia. Sice Yuon army hidden among Khmers, it is sad that they died along with it. Normally Yuon shielded themselves with villagers and kids, so others like Islam militants always do.
You cannot blame this Complex War created by Yuon on American, it is always like that when we are within a WAR ZONE.
Blaming Dr. Kissinger is only PRO-Yuon and whoever started their attack against the US is working for Yuon.
Yuon are good designing propagandas blaming others.
I thank Dr. Kissinger for bombing the Communists.
4:10 AM
So many American condemn Kissinger and you don't know how Yuon can play in that?
American people are never lived with Communist, how do they know what Communist would treat them? American woman like Jane Fonda who is a movie star and mighty wealthy flew from the US to cry with Yuon Communist and blaming her people. If she is not a big movie star or might wealthy she would be shot already. Did Jane Fonda see Yuon encroach into Cambodia and killed million Khmers?
American people are spoiled and like knee jerks, they are clueless about Communists.
Sure Yuon are using this propaganda (Kissinger bombed Cambodia) to fool Khmers to shift the blame on others, while they(Yuon) are trying to finish up their expansionism in Cambodia.
Yuon play part in this propaganda, and million Yuon-Americans are in the US and many American are brainwashed by Yuon too. If not why Trudy Jacobsen wrote her Thesis condemning Khmers for being racist against Yuon who helped to free them from Pol Pot?
Many American people are brainwashed by Yuon and many are siding with Yuon. Many do not believe that Yuon were among Khmer Rouge, etc./ Because Yuon were crying and accusing Khmers are racist against them, the sweet and peaceful Yuon.
Why American people are so great, when now Socialists (Liberal Progressive) took over? They called themselves Liberal Progressive, but they are Socialist toward Communist.
And why not they believe Yuon?
Sure this is Yuon Propaganda 100%.
Theary Seng's US citizen should be revoked and be deported for good back to her miserable country for good. Because she is a spy for Communist.
Theary Seng is a political activist, a preacher (gospel of GOD),a movie promoter, a ... almost everything, you name it.
Her darting game left out Ho Chi Minh, Hun Xen, King Ta, and Chou En Lai, Mao etc..
1:46
Research some more before you called me a liar. I am for the true so everyone can make up their mind... I am for the development of Cambodia for Cambodian interest; what are you for?
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