Friday, December 21, 2012

Quote, unquote



“A country without a memory is a country of madmen.

George Santayana

“If the past has been an obstacle and a burden, knowledge of the past is the safest and the surest emancipation.

Lord Acton


All right, I know it's not deep enough inside Kampuchian territory yet, but for now let’s keep this one here lest we are seen to be overdoing it! And work hard to keep those Khmer "terrorists" away. I want our children and grand-children to relocate it further afield in their own successive generation until it reaches Preah Vihear, Poi Pet and beyond. After all, we paid for this stone! -  School of Vice

The phenomenon of anarchic settlements by illegal Vietnamese citizens across large swathes of the country's most important natural reservoir and fishing hub that is the Tonle Sap [Fresh Water Lake] constitutes a gross violation of international law on immigration [1] and a naked infringement of its national territorial integrity. The natural abundance of the country's geography with the Great Lake at its heart and the Mekong its arteries had for thousands of years been what sustained its well-balanced economic cycle and surplus or well-being which contributed directly to the Khmers' flourishing civilisations and powerful political empire through successive kingdoms between the 1st and the 13th centuries, is now being threatened with over fishing and ecological stress and degradation linked to this phenomenon of floating mass human settlements upon the surface of this Lake itself. It is an unprecedented man-made corruption that poses the most grievous immediate and long term threat to millions of human lives who still largely depend on this natural ecosystem and cycle for survival. Strangely, the Cambodian authorities have so far managed to overlook this imminent threat despite its massive implications in social political terms: this is more than about international law or issues of nationalities; it concerns present and future livelihoods and survival prospects for all who inherit this land from their ancestors. Most Khmers had never resorted to living in such ‘floating settlements’ and in such great numbers: Khmers were and are mostly rice farmers who converge on the Lake and other fishing ports once harvest time is behind them to gather as much fermented fish [prahok] and dried or smoked fish as possible needed to form part of their basic staple diet of rice and fish. A few temporary seasonal floating settlements may form here and there, and most are confined to dry land [during dry season] on the edges [or 'mouth'] of the Lake or along many a river bank, but never on such a scale as to be considered floating urban conurbations [towns] in their own right! Compared to these anarchic settlements and the overall environmental degradation and lasting negative ecological and social impact they induce, the 'crime' committed by so many thousands of families at places like Boeung Kak and elsewhere throughout the kingdom for which the authorities have been resorting to the use of physical violence in enforcing evictions against these people who harm no one in particular, appears to pale in significance. - School of Vice    

“Please do tell which "international law on immigration" this is violating, if you can. I think you have no idea what you are talking about ...”

          -Anonymous reader

[1] “Immigration Law - When someone applies for a passport, travels from his country of residence to another country, or seeks to enter another country for employment or school attendance, these actions are part and parcel of International Immigration law. This area of law is regulated by international law and is very closely associated with nationality law, which basically deals with a person’s legal status as a citizen. Immigration law is not uniform throughout the world, but the United Nations International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights has decreed that all countries must allow entry to its own citizens.” 

Source: HG.org


[Italics are mine. NB: The question that really needs asking is whether Cambodia has any clear immigration law, and more critically, is it prepared to enforce it for its 'own' citizens' interests and protection? But, then we all know that such law is irrelevant in a country governed by strongmen, rather than the rule of law, eh?  - School of Vice]


27 comments:

Anonymous said...

As I am Khmer, I do not want to see the pole border-line with Ah Viet, I hate to see my country become Vietnam. I feel deeply regrete that the country become Vietnam, which it is now. There's lot of illegal Vietnamese every where in Cambodia. If any party would win the election, please get these illegal YOUN-Vietnamese out first before other action can be taken. I always hate YOUN-VIET, never ever be friend. Please Khmer abroad, you must help now.

Anonymous said...

If Dumb Idiot Hun Sen has allowed this to happen very bad and on purpose to Cambodia by listening to his Hanoi masters and he does not care about Cambodia since he and his family have some billions of dollars in his bank account, then Khmer people and unfortunate/disadvantaged Khmer soldiers have to kill Hun Sen and his family right now before it is too late.

My Gosh, what a destruction to Cambodia which a last piece of land after the Khmer/Cambodian empire land.

We need to spread the words to the world as soon as possible, like UN, USA, European countries or International Community.

Hun Sen is no long Cambodia citizen, but he is a real Vietnamese bastard as well as his Vietnamese family.

Be careful, Khmer people and soldiers, and don't let this dumb idiot gets away and destroy Cambodia/Khmer people and nation on purpose as he takes a revenge against Cambodian/Khmer people and soldiers.

Anonymous said...

Do laws apply in ASia?!

Robbing and killing in plain sight...

Vietnam/Youn must be held accountable


Anonymous said...

A kwack Hoon Xen is Viet's slave.
He kills his his people who are against him for power and makes Viet happy. He is a Traitor.

Noro-Dumb Xinorouk was/is a Traitor. He was Ho's slave.
He let Viet Cong used our territory to fight South and declared Cambodia is independent.
He was/is a LIAR. He is with POL Pot now.

Hoon Xen will join them soon!



Anonymous said...

khmer ( ( ( Y U O N ) ) ) Lao

100 riel

Anonymous said...

តើជាកំហុសអ្នកណា? មិនមែនយួនខុសទេ។ ពីដើមឡើយយួនមានដីតិច ហើយដីយួនក៏មិនអាចបង្ករបង្កើនផលបានដែរ ដូច្នេះយួនត្រូវតែរំលោភឈ្លានពាន ប្រទេសទន់ខ្សោយដើម្បីយកដីបង្ករបង្កើនផល ចិញ្ចឹមពលរដ្ឋយួន យួនធ្លាប់មានប្រវត្តជូរចត់ ជាមួយប្រទេសចិនដូច្នេះយួនត្រូវបង្កើនពលរដ្ឋ ឲ្យបានច្រើនហើយវាយយកប្រទេសចាម។ ក្រោយមកយកកម្ពុជាក្រោម ព្រោះដីកម្ពុជាក្រោមជាដីមានជីរជាតិល្អ ដែលអាចធ្វើកសិកម្មយកទៅចិញ្ចឹមពលរដ្ឋយួនទាំងមូល។មេយួនជាមនុស្សឆ្លាតវៀងវៃ ហើយពួកគេធ្វើការបំរើរាស្ត្រគេនឹងប្រទេសជាតិ គេ គេស៊ូស្លាប់ខ្លួនគេឲ្យតែជាតិគេរស់ កូនចៅជំនាន់ក្រោយរបស់គេ បានសេចក្តីសុខជីវភាពរុងរឿង គេស្លាប់មែន តែកេរ្តិ៍ឈ្មោះរបស់គេដក់ក្នុងចិត្តរាស្ត្រគេជានិច្ច។ចុះមេខ្មែរវិញ សព្វថ្ងៃមិនត្រឹមតែពុករលួយ លូចលុយជាតិ ក្បត់ជាតិកាត់ដី កោះ ព្រមទាំងធ្វើបាបរាស្ត្រខ្លួនឯង ឲ្យរស់ដូចសត្វធាតុនោះទេ ពេល រាស្ត្រខ្លួនមានផ្ទះមានដីស្រែត្រឹមត្រូវ បែរជារដ្ឋរឹបអូសរុះរើដុតផ្ទះយកស្រែ សាហាវជាងចោរព្រៃទៅទៀត បើយើងពិនិត្យឲ្យមែនទែនទៅ រាស្ត្រនឹងរដ្ឋាភិបាលដូចខ្មាំងសត្រូវ ។រដ្ឋាភិបាលមិនចង់ឲ្យរាស្ត្រមានជីវភាពល្អទេ គេចង់បានតែបក្សពួកគេរស់ស្រួល ចង់អ្នកស្លាប់រស់យ៉ាងណាក៏គេមិនឈឺក្បាលដែរ។រាស្ត្រទាំងអស់គួរក្រោកឡើងជួយខ្លួនឯង នឹងកូនចៅជំនាន់ក្រោយផង បើបណ្តោយតទៅទៀតយួនចូលពេញស្រុកហើយ ។សព្វថ្ងៃយួនជាង៥លាននាក់ទៅហើយ បន្តិចទៀតប្រហែលខ្មែរគ្មានដីនៅទេ ។

Anonymous said...

Border marcations between the East & West neighbors are not yet finished but
Mr. ( Genius) Hun Sen already announced that Cambodia gains territory of 300 square km . When all the posts are planted , Hun Sen will speak for another 51/2 hours on Congress floor telling Khmers that Cambodia has doubled her size (sic) .

Northeastern Phnong , land loser

Anonymous said...

Only ah kwak Hun Sen cannot see the savage Vietcongs every where in Cambodia today, because he is also mentally and physically kwak (blind).

As Khmer, we never recognize this Vietcongs-Hun Sen borders agreement. What we always have is

Kampuchea = Cambodia + Kampuchea Krom (the Mekong Delta).

Khmer Angkor.

Anonymous said...

A country doesn't have a memory,a leaders must have memory of the past and vow not to let that past memory or memories repeats itself time and time again,leaders should vow to serve no other but their citizens and his/her nation against all enemies domestic or import.A leaders like Cpp knew that past histories but choose to ignored due to the fact that these leaders[Cpp] were slave to our century old adversary[Yuon] idiot like Hun sen,Heng Samrin and Chea Sim and more were Yuon Hanoi's thugs,Hanoi gains territory [land]Cpp thugs gains wealth and personal power and protection.A leader like Hun Sen is ridiculously mentally and visionly blinded....

Kapyuon

Anonymous said...

Remember Khamer, these new border posts are not legal within the Khmer people and the United Nation. Therefore, after the new administration, we will reviews all borders and islands with the UN and claim all these lost territories back.
So, these marble post that the Vietcong installed will be destroyed by us soon.

Anonymous said...

Vote CNRP on July 28, 21012

Loc phung duc said...

Viet and Khmer almost look the same.

I married a viet, I thought she was khmer. How did i find out?

From another room,hear her family spoke viet. they claim to be chinese origin at fist, they still deny it.

Its too late.. what should i do ?

Anonymous said...

3:06 AM sounds very suspicious as a Vietnamese/Yuon parasite.

Anonymous said...

Please do tell which "international law on immigration" this is violating, if you can. I think you have no idea what you are talking about ...

Anonymous said...

1) Sihanouk allow Youn to live in Cambodia to fight US and South Vietnam
2) Gen. Lon Nol pushed all Youn back home and Pol Pot did the same like Lon Nol.
3) Ah Hun Sen (the last Khmer traitor after Chhey Chetha 2, 1623) is bringing youn back to Cambodia and give them more than 1 000 000 ha for 99 years. The gola of Hun Sen and Viet are different:
a) Hun will power to oppress Khmers
b) Viet take Khmers land like Kampuchea Krom.

All Khmers must wake up!
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Anonymous said...

4:33 AM,

Let's me clarify to you that the former King Sihanouk did, but in order to get land (Kampuchea Krom) back from Vietnam. Ah Ho Chi Menh promised with the King, to return land back to Cambodia. Ah Ho Chi Menh wanted to have Vietnamese troop (Vietcong) in Cambodia territory to figh with the U.S. and mores. So, the king allowed Vietnam troop in Cambodia back then. Don't blam the king, you should put the blame to Hun Sen.

Unknown said...

Gentlemen
You can continue to speak out LOUD but not much the PM will hear, and anger does not achieve anything but pass the time.Viet/youn is persistent and that is HOW youn spreads and continues to invade surroundings, Cambodia ,Laos and further.
Please be calm and join in CNRP, to vote out the puppets for Cambodia's independence. The chance is yours, to once again,work together both in Cambodia and overseas.
Revoke the treaties signed by the CPP and HUN SEN is the key. Help lobby inside and abroad for democratic process with NGOs and countries signed in Paris agreement in 1991, and please start to read and understand our constitution as democratic platform to reflect cruel activities of authority against our constitution.
Chance is always there, sitting on the past but not moving is destructive.
Neang SA

Anonymous said...

5:01 AM,

Both Ah Hun Shit and Ah king chhkout mess Cambodia up.

But the main problems is: Ah King chhkout causes all these messes.
Without Ah chhkout interfered against Lon Nol's will, Kampuchea Krom and Cambodia would never suffered until today.

I know Ah Ho Chi Minh broke the promise with Ah king chhkout, but is it better to help American fight the Vietcong for South Vietnam or take a chance waiting for the promises?

Not only this king chhkout waiting for the promises but also kept
quite. Samething to Ah Hun Shit right now, always keep quite Re. borders with Vietnam. So think about it, aren't both the same shit?


Anonymous said...

VietNam must be stopped by the International community...

Problems in Cambodia are man-made...

What CPP VietNam/ Vietnamese/Youn/Vietcong/ Viet Mihn, Viet_Chin_Mihn are doing to Cambodia is a gross VIOLATION of the very basic human rights...

This cannot be the bedrock of Democracy in ASia...

Robbing, killing, stealing land in plain day light...

VerySickening

School of Vice said...

My dear friend 6:21 AM,

All these horrible things you described are all real and sickening to many Khmers who genuinely feel for their own kind and for the victims of the same gross actions. Yet, sadly there are still powerful and even educated Cambodians who refuse to accept or acknowledge these violations because they are not being directly affected by them! Not all detractors and posters who try very hard to subvert and undermine this site, for instance, are foreigners!

This is how some foreigners and the enemies of Cambodia want things to work out: keep the elite happy and pampered and the reality will be lukewarm and agreeable for them, while the rest of the population remain disenfranchised and bewildered, and the nation's integrity and sovereignty are falling apart at the seams.

Eventually, the same enemies will not spare even members of this indigenous elite, and when the time of reckoning comes for them, they will be forced to choose assimilation [e.g. through interbreeding with the dominant culture/ group] to ensure their own survival and that of their own offspring, whilst the rest of their compatriots will be dying out as a distinct entity. This is how the story of the Champa people unfolded, and also to a similar extent, that of the Khmers under Siamese/ Thai suzerainty.

Anonymous said...

We have two choices 1) Kick all of them out of the lake and force them to go back to Vietnam or 2) Give them some sort of Visa or citizenship if they are qualify . My reason for #2 is the least of two evils. If we can't kick them out, at least we move them on the land so they stop shitting and peeing on the lake. Fuck we've been eating their shit for so long, no wonder our people are coming down with cancers and diseases. Let them move on the land instead. Some of you may say force them to go home to younland. Yes if you can, how long do we wait for that? If we are practical, we must move them into land settlement NOW and stop eating their feces.

Anonymous said...

7:50 AM

If Vietnam's puppet still control Cambodia, your wish will never happen.

Anonymous said...

Need regime change....

The elites and the educated powerful in power today are CPP vietcong puppets...

We weed new government that respect rules of laws and promotes Human Rights, true Deomocracy and Liberty for all people...

However, Illegal vietnamese/vietcong/Youn must go through the immigration process...and those committed crimes must be held responsible. This includes the Chinese....

VerySickening

Anonymous said...

Loc phung duc said...
Viet and Khmer almost look the same.

I married a viet, I thought she was khmer. How did i find out?

From another room,hear her family spoke viet. they claim to be chinese origin at fist, they still deny it.

Its too late.. what should i do ?

3:06 AM

You should keep licking Kanduoy Yuon because you pretend to be Khmer.13561 sitERnh

Anonymous said...

There is a good number of VietNamese and chinese kids that are allowed to come to foreign countries, like the US BECAUSE of the CPP vietcong puppet government...

To Khmer people, VietNamese do not look like Khmer, how they act, speak, look distinctly different...

These illegal Viet people are allow to come outside the country through the so called lottery system...

A good number of them are located in Rhode Island and NorthWestern states....


Anonymous said...

Khmers cannot vote the Puppets out with NEC intact , CNRP boycott the
election ? Uprising is only one option left !

Anonymous said...

They poison the water with their fucking shit. How come there is no sunami?