Thursday, January 17, 2013

The Extraordinary Trial of Khmer Rouge Leaders

Nuon Chea at the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia in November 2011. (Mark Peters/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images)
January 16, 2013
By DIDI KIRSTEN TATLOW
International Herald Tribune (France)

BEIJING — Brother Number Two is ill.

That means the Khmer Rouge genocide trials in Cambodia, “one the most significant war crimes trials since ” (according to the scholar Peter Maguire, author of “Facing Death in Cambodia,”) have slowed again.

Still, the attempt to deliver justice to more than 1.7 million Cambodians killed by their government between 1975 and 1979 continues: the hospitalization of Nuon Chea, 86, the highest-ranking surviving leader of the regime and its main ideologue, known as Brother No. 2 during the reign, is merely the latest bump in the road for the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia.

It is a remarkable tale of perseverance and pitfalls.

Set up by the United Nations and the Cambodian government, the court began operating in 2006 and has to date convicted just one man, “Duch,” or Kaing Guek Eav, the commandant of the main Khmer Rouge prison, Tuol Sleng. “Duch” was ultimately sentenced to life in prison. This video from the court’s Web site shows Duch apologizing repeatedly.

Bowing to political pressures within Cambodia and overseas, the experimental, mixed tribunal is a “special new court” jointly created by the Cambodian government and the U.N. and supposedly independent of both. The reality has been far messier, critics say.


Probably more criticized than praised, the trial is in itself a real achievement, as Mr. Maguire wrote in this newspaper in 2011, at the beginning of the current trial of Mr. Nuon Chea and his co-defendants, leng Sary, the former foreign minister, and Khieu Samphan, the former head of state.

Damir Sagolj/Reuters Human remains at a memorial center on the grounds of the killing fields of Cambodia.

“The fact that the case has even made it this far is a minor miracle to those of us who were in Cambodia during the 1990s, when the defendants’ amnesties seemed secure,” Mr. Maguire wrote.

“Yet the roller-coaster court was jolted again in December by the resignation of three lawyers, Jasper Pauw, Michiel Pestman and Andrew Ianuzzi. The lawyers were defenders for Nuon Chea in Case 002, as the current trial is known. They cited “government interference that prevented them from best defending their client,” the Phnom Penh Post reported.

Among the main problems raised by the lawyers were that sitting Cambodian government ministers refused to reply with court summonses, a complaint described by Clair Duffy, a tribunal monitor for the Open Society Justice Initiative, as having “some merit,” according to the Phnom Penh Post story.

So Brother No. 2’s hospitalization on Sunday at the Khmer Soviet Friendship Hospital in Phnom Penh with acute bronchitis was merely the latest in a string of issues. Increasingly, ill health among the accused, who are all over 80, threatens to terminate the trial completely. A fourth defendant, Ieng Thirith, the sister-in-law of the regime’s former leader, Pol Pot, and the wife of Mr. Ieng Sary, has already been dropped from the case on grounds of dementia.

Brother No. 1, Pol Pot, died in 1998 without being tried.

In an expert commentary on the Cambodia Tribunal Monitor’s Web site, Mr. Maguire lashed out at the United Nations, saying: “Cambodia’s ‘mixed tribunal’ should be deemed an expensive, overcomplicated experiment that should never be tried again.”

Mr. Maguire warned that the United Nations ran the risk of never completing Case 002 – and failing to bring justice to Cambodia. But the court could still succeed in what has become a race against time, he said.

“The court’s reputation can be salvaged if they can complete the case against the senior Khmer Rouge leaders while they are still alive,” he wrote. The court would “end on a high note that even longtime critics like myself will concede.”

To follow the extraordinary – and extraordinarily complicated – proceedings of the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia, the Trial Observer blog offers regular updates and links from Phnom Penh, as Cambodian and international lawyers fight to bring to justice the accused.

An earlier version of this post incorrectly identified three lawyers — Jasper Pauw, Michiel Pestman and Andrew Ianuzzi — as prosecution lawyers, when they were actually defenders for Nuon Chea in Case 002.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...


To my Beloved Compatriots Khmer from Stockton, Khmer Yeurng, or KY stands for Khmer Yuon and a Former Khmer Rouge Soldiers .

I would love to hear more comments , sentiments and compliments of you ALL toward your real Khmer Rouge Heroes NUON CHEA, KHIEU SAMPHAN, SONN SEN IENG SARY, TA MOK KHIEU PONNARY, KHIEU THIRITH , YOU YATH and POL POT etc,. during their MOHA LAUTH PLAUS ! MOHA ORS-CHA rules in year 1975-1979.
Kind Regards
A Survivor of our own Khmer Killing Fields

Anonymous said...

Most of the commentators on this site are actually Khmer Rouge supporters. You only have to read their comments to realize they repeat the exact same propaganda that Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary and Khieu Samphan have been repeating for decades.

Anonymous said...

11;56AM,
I do not understand what you want to say ?

Anonymous said...

8:55 AM,

Are you pretending behind your computer? You are just an Anonymous and you have been reading and you are talking very suspicious and there is no one know who you are. Only way we can do is to see your face in person so that we can see who you are.

Watch out on yourself, see who and whom we are talking you.

There is nothing to do with Khmer Rouges Heroes. It has to do with the expressions, answers and explains of Khmer Rouges leaders Nuon Chea, Khiev Sapham, Ieng Sary, etc. to the questions coming from the Yuon/Vietnamese CPP judges and lawyers. Not all Khmer people think Khmer Rouges leaders are heroes, but majority of Khmer/Cambodian people have agreed and learned the facts that Mr. Nuon Chea shared and has told the truth about Vietnamese hypocrisy and ill-intentions toward to Cambodia by swallowing Cambodia while killing and eliminating the Khmer/Cambodian people who are very intelligent, intellectual, higher educators, nationalists, and so on in KR Trial.

If you think that Vietnamese invaders as your saviors or rescuers, then the discussions with you are done and you need to think about what are the facts, realities and evidences that Cambodia and Cambodian people are facing today when it comes to the CPP regime controlled by Vietnamese puppet Hun Sen and his hidden Vietnamese/Yuon CPP clans and military agents in Khmer/Cambodian military uniforms as well as Hanoi master-minded ideologists/killers in evil Communist Vietnam. Therefore, it is called "2nd Killing Fields of CPP Regime" after the 1975-1979 Killing Fields of Khmer Rouges created by suspicious Communist Vietnamese/Yuon leaders such as Pham Van Dong, Ho Chi Minh, and more Hanoi killers and evil Vietnamese/Yuon secret killers/agents.

Again, you need to think who you are on here in front of bloggers and readers on KI-Media Blogging site.

Let other bloggers or posters decide.

Anonymous said...

Correction for 4:09 PM

8:55 AM,

Are you pretending behind your computer? You are just an Anonymous and you have been reading and you are talking very suspicious and there is no one know who you are. Only way we can do is to see your face in person so that we can see who you are.

Watch out on yourself, see who and whom we are talking To. SO, ANYONE CAN BE THE JUDGE AND YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE BLOGGERS, READERS OR POSTERS HAVE TO SAY AND GIVE YOU THE OPPINIONS. WE, AS KHMER FOLKS, ARE VERY CAUTIOUS AND WATCH OUT ON EACH OTHERS.

NOT ALL KHMER FOLKS OR VICTIMS OF KHMER ROUGES WHO UNDERSTAND WHAT AND WHO HAD BEEN BEHIND THE KILLING FIELDS OF KHMER ROUGES FROM 1975 TO 1979 AND DID NOT THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT KHEMR ROUGES TRIALS.

NOT ALL KHMER VICTIMES OF KILLING FIELDS ARE NOT THINKING CAMBODIA IS LIKE KHMER KROM, CHAMPA INCLUDING LAOS AT ALL.

NOT ALL KHMER VICTIMS OF KHMER ROUGES DO NOT SEE THE DIRTY TRICKS AND SECRET PLANT COMING FROM VIETNAMESE MASTER-MINDED LEADERS AND THIEVES IN HANOI INCLUDING VIETNAMESE FOLKS WHO ARE HO CHI MINH FOLLOWERS.

SO THERE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DEBATE WITH US, KHMER INTELLIGENT FOLKS HERE ON KI-MEDIA BLOGGING SITE.

There is nothing to do with Khmer Rouges Heroes. It has to do with the expressions, answers and explains of Khmer Rouges leaders Nuon Chea, Khiev Sapham, Ieng Sary, etc. to the questions coming from the Yuon/Vietnamese CPP judges and lawyers. Not all Khmer people think Khmer Rouges leaders are heroes, but majority of Khmer/Cambodian people have agreed and learned the facts that Mr. Nuon Chea shared and has told the truth about Vietnamese hypocrisy and ill-intentions toward to Cambodia by swallowing Cambodia while killing and eliminating the Khmer/Cambodian people who are very intelligent, intellectual, higher educators, nationalists, and so on in KR Trial.

If you think that Vietnamese invaders as your saviors or rescuers, then the discussions with you are done and you need to think about what are the facts, realities and evidences that Cambodia and Cambodian people are facing today when it comes to the CPP regime controlled by Vietnamese puppet Hun Sen and his hidden Vietnamese/Yuon CPP clans and military agents in Khmer/Cambodian military uniforms as well as Hanoi master-minded ideologists/killers in evil Communist Vietnam. Therefore, it is called "2nd Killing Fields of CPP Regime" after the 1975-1979 Killing Fields of Khmer Rouges created by suspicious Communist Vietnamese/Yuon leaders such as Pham Van Dong, Ho Chi Minh, and more Hanoi killers and evil Vietnamese/Yuon secret killers/agents.

Again, you need to think who you are on here in front of bloggers and readers on KI-Media Blogging site.

Let other bloggers or posters decide.

KY

Anonymous said...

CONT'D FROM 4:24 PM

SOME KHMER PEOPLE INCLUDING THE VICTIMS OF KHMER ROUGES ARE STILL GULLIBLE AND NOT AWARE OF THE EVIL VIETNAMESE FOLLOWERS OF HO CHI MINH WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DESTROY CAMBODIA TO THESE DAYS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, VIETNAMESE FOLLOWERS OF HO CHI MINH AND HANOI ALONG WITH YUON/VIETNAMESE CPP SUPPORTERS, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, AND THIEVES IN CAMBODIA COULD NOT SUCCEED WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE OF THE KHMER INTELLIGENT PEOPLE IN THE MODERN DAYS.

MAJORITY OF KHMER/CAMBODIAN PEOPLE ARE NOT NAIVE, BLIND AND GULLIBLE LIKE HUN SEN, HENG SAMRIN, CHEA SIM, AND CPP SUPPORTERS OR VOTERS.

KY

Anonymous said...

Khieu Samphan, Hou Nim and Hou Youn.

For minority of Cambodian they see Khieu Samphan, Hou Nim and Hou Youn are evils.

For majority of Cambodian especially elderly Khmer people who age 50s up they see Khieu Samphan, Hou Nim and Hou Yuon are very good men :

The men who never committed corruption ( even David chandler agreed that Khieu Samphan never committed corruption when he ( David Chandler interview by RFA in 2010 ).

The men who have no money both ouside and inside the bank.

The man as a minister of commerce in 1963 riding a bicycle to work as minister of commerce under Sihanouk regime and after Khieu Samphan became minister of commerce in Cambodia his mother still selling Cheng ang ( traditional Cambdodan dried bananas ) on the street in Phnom Penh.

Thank you Mr. Khieu Samphan for your last constributions in 1991 Paris peace agreement for the country.

Thank you Mr.Khieu Samphan for you contribution and taking part in fighting against yuon Hanoi ambition known as Indochina Federation to exterminate Khmer ethnics and to put Lao and Cambodia under yuon yoke.

And many Cambodian agree with me that this ECCC is strongly under yuon Hanoi influent and this ECCC will convict Khieu Samphan and Nuon Chea and put both of them in jail for lives, not because of killing so many Cambodian as they accused between 1975-1979 because of Nuon Chea and Khieu Samphan protecting Cambodian and Cambodia from becaming second Kampuchea-Krom.

Anonymous said...

To 11:56 AM,

11: 56 AM says ( quote ) Most of the commentators on this site are actually Khmer Rouge supporters ( end quote ).
My comment:
Well if 11:56 AM is a Khmer like me.

I resepect your comment as a Khmer so you must respect other who have differ views from us.

If you are not Khmer, or you are ah yuon born in Srok Khmer after 7th January 1979 piss off.

Most Khmer or most Cambodian we all know that:


Ah late Ho Chi Minh created Yuon Communist Party in 1930.

1941 ah yuon communist party created yuon Viet Minh .


1946-1953 youn Viet Minh who created Khmer Viet Minh to fight against French colony in Cambodia to remove French colony and replace Indochina Federation of ah Ho Chi Minh to put Lao and Cambodia under yuon yoke.

1951 yuon Hanoi changed its party name from Vietnamese Communist Party to the Vietnamese Worker Party and named Khmer Viet Minh Group to The Khmer People's Revolutionary Party or KPRP, KPRP was the old name of CPP , so KPRP created by yuon Hanoi before 1951 and named it as KPRP in 1951.

So it is very clear that yuon Hanoi created CPP ( so CPP was a group of former Khmer Viet Minh created by , and installed to power by yuon Hanoi to exterminate ethnics Cambodian and to put Lao and Cambodia under yuon Hanoi yoke.

As some Cambodian know these former Khmer Viet Minh are :

1. Heng Samrin.

2. Chea Sim.

3. So Phim.

4. Keo Meas.

5. Pen Sovann.

6. Chan Si.

7. Chea soth.

8. And many, many more.

So above is real story for Khmer people must know because real Khmer history has been twisting around and Khmer has been in great danger by yuon Hanoi ambition know as Indochina Federation to exterminate Khmer ethnics and to put Lao and Khmer under yuon yoke as they already did to Laos.

Anonymous said...

To 8:55 AM,

KY stands for Khmer Yeurng.

Anonymous said...

7:24 PM,

You have made a very good point. As you mentioned Penn Sovan as Khmer Vietminh. Now, Penn Sovan was jailed or ousted in 1984 when he was against Vietnamese masters in Hanoi who wanted Vietnamese migrants to flood into Cambodia. Now he used Hun Sen to replace Penn Sovan. Do you agree?

Anonymous said...

Dear 7:42 PM,

From 7:24 PM,

I agree with you that Pen Sovann still a political tool of yuon Hanoi.

I also heard some Cambodian disagree with me.

My comment:

Genocide from yuon Hanoi as follow:

The influx of millian of yuon migrants into Cambodia ( million more on the way ) is a good policy of yuon Hanoi in term of more yuon and less Khmer in Cambodia.

Look at 99 years contraction for so many yuon companies in Cambodia.

Look at Khmer young and old leave their homeland to became the servant of the neighbouring countries.

All of these are very well plan by yuon Hanoi to exterminated and to put Lao and Khmer under yuon yoke as they already did to Lao.

These are obvious cool genocide from yuon Hanoi to us ( Khmer ).