Tuesday, January 08, 2013

Vietnam was not the invader, but the saviour of Cambodians


To Khmerization...

As I have said before, the issue of the island is not debatable, it belongs to Vietnam, and Vietnam reserves the right to station whatever it wants on the island, it does not have to ask anyone’s consent. I am certain Vietnam is not alone in this action. As for the disputed territories, Vietnam is working with friends and partners to resolve the complex issues to the satisfactory of all parties involved.

In regard to the history of Champa and Khmer Krom, it is what it is- history. Constantly ranting about it is silly. It is not wise to dig up past historical grievances in order to justify one’s hostility against other people, it is unacceptable among the community of civilized nations. Even Cambodia’s history has shown that the Khmers were not the innocent victims of foreign conquests and subjugation as they would like to portray themselves to be. They were party to the act of military conquests, they vied for power, land, and resources, and at one time, they were the subjugators. Cambodians are very proud of their so-called Khmer Empire. How else was that empire carved but from the pointed end of the swords. In fact, Angkor Wat and many of its ancient temples were built by slaves from lands that it had subjugated. Champa was among the victims of Khmer military adventurism. Had the Khmer won, they would not be the one crying foul, they would be the victor and subjugator. Cambodia is simply the end result of failed military recklessness against its neighbors. No respectable international scholars and historians will give you the time of day to listen to your highly subjective, distorted, and falsify history.  
It is not hard to understand the current political situation of Cambodia or any other country, if you look at it from a realistic and pragmatic viewpoint, something, it seems to me, many Cambodians lack. It is that lack of pragmatism that has caused Cambodia dearly. The truth is Vietnam is not encroaching upon Cambodia, it is not trying to subjugate Cambodia, and it is not plotting to turn Cambodia into Vietnam or Cambodians in Vietnamese. Those are false and groundless accusations leveled by overseas Cambodians and a few insignificant opposition members in order to advance their agenda because they play very little to no relevancy in Cambodia’s political affair. Like all country, Vietnam is pursuing its interests, and it is in Vietnam’s interests to maintain a pro-Vietnam government in Cambodia, a government that is friendly to Vietnam, the same goes with Laos. There is historical reason for it. While the world watched and did absolutely nothing as the Khmer Rouge was destroying Cambodia, and launched unprovoked brutal attacks into Vietnam, in respsonse to the incursions, Vietnam along with the current leaders of Cambodia toppled the genocidal Khmer rouge, liberated the country, saved millions of people, and brought about the revival of Cambodia as we see it today. It is the most profound and true humanitarian act that the people of one country could do for the people of another. From that historical context, it is not hard to understand why the CPP is the current ruling government of Cambodia.
Every militarily capable country maintains and defends the strategic space adjacent to it. The US does not allow any foreign power to use Mexico to threaten it security, likewise, Vietnam would never allow any foreign power to use Cambodia to threaten its security. Both Cambodia and Laos are sovereign states, and could pursue independent foreign policies, so long as their policies do not threaten their neighbors. The oppositions and overseas Cambodians harbored hostile and malicious intentions towards Vietnam, and given the chance, they will commit acts of violence against innocent Vietnamese and their own countrymen they deemed working with Vietnam. Those are the same people who recently called for a Libya-style destruction of Cambodia because they harbored the delusion that it would help propel them to power in Cambodia. However, Cambodia will never again walk the path of self-destruction. As Hun Sen made it clear, he would continue to rule Cambodia into his 90s, after him, members of the CPP will rule Cambodia. Vietnam will make certain that is as true as the rising and setting of the sun.

65 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yes,hun sen is ver so arrogant to his cambodian people,but very submissive to his master hanoi.
He is a coward because he is scared
when fighting agaisn unarmed SAM RAINSY,he use guns.
So those who said that SAM RAINSY is a coward, need to know about the meaning of the word "coward"
so that in the futur ,they will
nomore misunderstand about the word "coward".

Anonymous said...

The writer forget to mention that everything is Viets plans. In the 1970-75 war they invaded Cambodia using Sihanouk name to cheat Sihanouk and khmer people that they came to help Sihanouk get back as the head of state of Cambodia. At the end of war, they sent their agents to infiltrate in Khmer Rouge administration and tricked Khmer Rouge to kill millions of Khmer people. As the result of the killing, khmers morale were low and Vietnam see it as an opportunity to conquer Cambodia by force. Majority of Khmers at had no choice but to accept Vietnamese out of fear of Khmer Rouge. If they really came to save us they should just leave us alone. Instead in every level Khmer Administration they have Vietnamese advisors everywhere. The keep sending their people illigally to Cambodia every day and the Viets immigrants in Cambodia now stand about 5 millions and among these 200000 to 300000 are viet soldiers hiding in Viet civilians clothes to protect Viet interest. Hun Sen has title as Cambodian PM, but in reality is just slave of the Vietnamese. It's PM who is designed by the Viet to serve viet interest. To Khmer people Hun Sen who had only two years high school education is not smart in leading the country but his master is the one who is smart.

Anonymous said...

សំដីជនពាលធ្លាប់ធ្វើកញ្ជះគេ វានៅតែមាយាទថោកទាប និយាយចេញមកមិនដឹងអ្វីជាត្រូវ អ្វីជាខុសឡើយ មិនស្គាល់ប្រវត្តិសាស្រ្តខ្លួនឯងផង ថាអ្នកណាជាសត្រូវ អ្នកណាជាមិត្ត
ព្រោះវាជាបណ្ឌិតពាលទាំងពួជ វាធ្លាប់តែប្រឹងប្រែងរកស៊ីចិញ្ចឹមជីវិត មិនស្គាល់អ្វីពីសង្គមរស់នៅ មិនស្គាល់ពីប្រវត្តិសាស្រ្ត។ តើអាយួនវាមានផែនការយកទឹកដីខ្មែរពីពេលណា វាបានសាកល្បងឈ្លានពានខ្មែរប៉ុន្មានដងហើយ វាបានបញ្ជុកបនស៊ីអ្នកដឹកនាំខ្មែរគ្រប់កាលះទេសះ
គ្រប់បែបយ៉ាង អុសទាញស្តេច មន្ត្រី អ្នករដ្ឋការ អោយលុះខ្លួនយកឧត្តមគតិទៅបំរើមនោគមវា
វាឈ្លានពានខ្មែរបានហើយដោយខ្លាចពិភពលោក វាយកពពួកអាឆ្កែចចកទាំងបីមកបំពាក់បំប៉នអំណាចអោយដើម្បីផលប្រយោជន៏យួន ហតុអ្វីបានជាពពួកអាឆ្កែចចកទាំងអស់នេះទាំងកូនទាំងចៅស្រែថាគ្មានយួនឈ្លានពានកម្ពុជា បែរជាថាយួនចូលមកជួយខ្មែរទៅវិញ ។
អាយួនស្រកីដូងវាធ្លាប់ជួយពពួកអាខ្មែរក្រហម ក្នុងពពួកអាខ្មែរក្រហម វាមានអាបីនាក់នៅ
ក្នុងហ្នឹងដែរ ដូច្នេះរឿងដដែល ដដែលគ្រាន់តែកំចាត់ដេញអាណាដែលមិនស្តាប់ចៅហ្វាយនាយតែប៉ុណ្ណោះ ។
បរាជ័យពពួកអាប័ក្សប្រជាជននឹងបរិវារ..

Anonymous said...

This is a very honest analysis from the writer. So here are the issues that future Khmers will have to think about.
1) The Viets will always and always need a friendly Cambodian government. The King knows that. Hun Sen knows that. So both are trying to be friendly to Vietnam. Both are benefiting from this relationship.
2) The Viets will always and always try to eliminate the government of Cambodia that is against it. We have seen Lon Nol and Pol Pot. Both were eliminated because they try to go against Vietnam. Both were doomed by their own making.

With that thoughts, there is hope that there can be an alternative government for Cambodia if it is pro-Vietnam. CPP is only one. If we can show Vietnam that some other Party is not against them, I am sure they will let it compete with Hun Sen's government. After all, they don't care if the cat is black or white as long as it can catches mice. We must think about this. Why must opposition parties be anti-Vietnam? Our goal is not to take back Cambodia from Hun Sen. That is the only way we have any chance to compete with Hun Sen. It's time we must think outside of the box.

Anonymous said...

I am not sure if the writer is a Vietnamese or a Khmer with Vietnamese head (kbal yuon, kluon Khmer), but he got history very wrong. He said Khmer Rouge attacked Vietnam unprovoked. The fact of the matter was that Viet soldiers encroached on Khmer border everyday like they are doing now and the KR soldiers tried to stop them, that's why the Viet launched a full scale war and invaded Cambodia.

The writer also said that Vietnam's invasion was "the most profound and true humanitarian act". The writer forgot that Vietnam was the one who created the KR, helped KR came to power in 1975 and then aided and abetted the KR in the killing of millions of Khmer life through Viet tricks. Vietnam did not come to save Khmer life, but invaded to annex more Khmer lands and kill more Khmer life like the K5 Plan. In fact, there are many claims and statistics pointing out that many more Khmers died or were killed after the Viet invasion in 1979.

The writer also accused overseas Khmers for inventing the story of Viet encroachments. No one will believe this claim because people can see with their own eyes that Vietnam are encroaching Khmer territory everyday and that Khmer farmers living along the border are crying everyday because Vietnamese soldiers had encroached on their lands. Does this writer think that these poor and unarmed Khmer farmers are the invaders of Vietnamese territory?

Regarding Champa and Kampuchea Krom, well, it is history but don't claim that they were Viet territory and the Chams and the Khmer Krom were invaders, right?

I believe that Cambodia and Vietnam should be friends, but do you think that friends won't invade or encroach on each other's land, right? I believe that we Khmers can't take back Kampuchea Krom, but we must never allow Vietnam to continue to encroach or chip away our territory on a daily basis. If you think that I have made up the story of Viet encroachments, then you just ask the farmers living along the border and they can tell you that they lost their land everyday.

History should be told the way it had happened, not twisted and turned.

Anonymous said...

The writer of this article does makes some points!

But a few good points doesn't justifies the whole trust or does it changes the meaning of black to something gray.

No way, not a chance.

He is a moron! FOR SURE.

Anonymous said...

The arguments presented by the unknown author in the form of a response to Khmerization is that, if I understand it correctly, a stronger nation takes all it wants from a weaker nation and can do whatever it wants to its neighbours even in our present civilized time where territorial disputes between countries are supposed to be bound by international laws.

Well then, if we are to follow this line of arguments, we can say that the issue of all the islands claimed by China in the South China Sea belong to China, period. For that reason when China decides to take the islands militarily, I hope Vietnam will not cry foul and try to get the US and other countries involved in the dispute.

Why would the concept of going to the ICJ work only when Vietnam is facing off with China and not when Cambodia is facing off with Vietnam?

If Vietnam is not encroaching upon Cambodian territory, why is it necessary for Vietnam to conclude new treaties with their puppet regime in Phnom Penh, the treaties King Father Norodom Sihanouk refused to sign?

The same wrote and I quote, "It is the most profound and true humanitarian act that the people of one country could do for the people of another. From that historical context, it is not hard to understand why the CPP is the current ruling government of Cambodia."

Did the CPP not lose the UN-sponsored election and made its way back into power by a threat and the use of military forces? Weren’t the subsequent elections won through unfair means if we use the international standards to measure their outcomes?

Last, will the author be true to himself and believe that if the CPP loses this coming election, it will give up power and Vietnam will not interfere in Cambodian politics, as it usually does, to put Hun Sen back in power so the puppet can continue to serve the master?

I don't think the author is naive enough not to see that the old way of subjugating a nation will not work in our modern world, and that the current Vietnamese strategy is nothing but a new way of controlling Cambodia as a subservient state.

Just look at the demarcation of the Vietnamese-Cambodian border and one can see clearly the servant-master relationship in full action! There is no way such a perfect harmony on border demarcation can exist between two sovereign states considering the historical problems of frontiers that Vietnam and Cambodia have had since the departure of the French.

As I have always said Vietnam was simply lucky that due to the stupidity of the Khmer Rouge she could conceal very well her invasion to subjugate Cambodia as the invasion to save her. If the true intention were simply for humanitarian purpose, Vietnam would have asked for all the help from the international communities right after her victory and allowed Cambodia to be administered by the UN rather than continuing to stay for so many more years. The fact that Vietnam whose military power had been much superior to that of the Khmer Rouge allowed the Khmer Rouge to go as deep as they did in the Vietnamese territory with simple weapons such as AK 47 and B40 to slaughter their citizens showed the cunningness and the prepared strategy of the Vietnamese to gain international support when they retaliated.

Pissed Off



Anonymous said...

Correction:

The same author wrote and I quote, "..."

Pissed Off

Anonymous said...

It is the nature of the Vietshit to repeat the same old lie again and again until some fools would believe in their lie! I do have enough of these Vietshit dog eaters!

Here are the facts!
=Long before the Khmer Rouge came to power! The Vietcong and the South Vietshit pro-American army used Cambodia as their playground to do their killing and not only that the Vietcong used Cambodia as their military bases to trick and shift the American bombing campaign on Vietnam to Cambodia! As result "American military dropped 475,515 tons of ordnance on Cambodia.
".http://walrusmagazine.com/article.php?ref=2006.10-history-bombing-cambodia&page=

The total collapse of Cambodian economy and the killing and the starvation of Cambodian people are inevitable! Cambodia became a wasteland falling into black hole! So what is Pol Pot is to do ?
http://walrusmagazine.com/article.php?ref=2006.10-history-bombing-cambodia&page=

=The UN officially came into existence on October 24, 1945 after ratification of the Charter. Cambodia lost Khmer Kampuchea Krom on June 4th 1949! If the Vietshit can go annex Khmer land like this and why the world need United Nations for? Even after 1979 during the Vietshit invasion of Cambodia and the Khmer lost more land and sea to the Vietshit through illegal border treaties!

=The Vietshit never save anybody beside themselves! The Vietshit came to take advantage of Cambodian killing field and they installed the same fucken Khmer Rouge leaders who killed Cambodian people in the million such as AH HUN SEN who is used to be Pol Pot lieutenant and a former Khmer Rouge leader in eastern zone until he defected to Vietcong side before the down fall of the Pol Pot!

=”The oppositions and overseas Cambodians harbored hostile and malicious intentions towards Vietnam, and given the chance, they will commit acts of violence against innocent Vietnamese and their own countrymen they deemed working with Vietnam.”
Well…Well…Well…The Vietshit never mention about the oppression of 10 million Khmer Krom people under their feet! The Vietshit used the Khmer Krom as a trophy in their victory over Khmer! Now you know why some Khmer people include me do not positive look or perception of these Vietshit people? What is so wrong in my brain and so blind in my eyes not to see the positive done by the Vietshits toward the Khmer people in general! The action of the Vietshit leaders and their people in general say it all toward us Khmer throughout the century and the 21th century! Nothing is positive come out between Cambodian and the Vietshit relationship and only master and slave relationship! The Vietshit can expect more conflict in the future if they want to dictate all term for Khmer people to follow! As long as the Khmer people continue to resist the Vietshit domination and they will always have a country to call home!

Anonymous said...

01/07/2113?

bye bye

Anonymous said...

We are Vietnamese believe so strongly that if we can own Angkor Watt temples we can own the Khmer Nation. The fact is Vietnamese own Angkor Watt temples right now. All Khmers must kneel before Uncle Ho. If you want to blame, you must blame your leader Sam Rainsy and Lotus Revolution leaders who are coward, opportunistic and they have fail you.

Now all Cambodians must kneel before Uncle Ho. Happy 7 Makara to Sam Rainsy and all Lotus Revolution leaders.

Anonymous said...

Uncle Ho understand that Sam Rainsy as well as Lotus Revolution leaders are so coward and scare to die for your Khmer Nation and Uncle Ho understand that Sam Rainsy and Lotus Revolution leaders are trying so hard to provoke young innocent Cambodians to die for them to be rich but young innocent Cambodians will not die for you people (Sam Rainsy and Lotus Revolution leaders) to be rich anymore as they have learn enough of bullshit lessons from the past and present.

Young innocent Cambodians are so smart not to die creating another opportunity for you people to be rich because they know very well that Sam Rainsy and Lotus Revolution leaders are so coward and scare to die but using them to do the dirty work to create another opportunity for you people (Sam Rainsy and Lotus Revolution leaders) to be rich in government.

If Sam Rainsy and Lotus Revolution leaders are truth patriot, why don't they just come to Cambodia and lead the revolution and dare to die to show young innocent Cambodians, how patriot they are. Why??? Or they are opportunistic who is waiting for opportunity at very safe places and champagnes to pop up.

Prove Uncle Ho wrong by action not by words because our Vietnamese’s hero dare to die to protect Vietnam interest and action speak far better than words that is why We are Vietnamese own Angkor Watt temples and Koh Tral, not by using words but real action and real sacrificed of our heroes with lose count. Unlike Sam Rainsy can’t even find justice for his followers.

Uncle Ho will guarantees that Sam Rainsy and all Lotus Revoltion leaders won’t dare to die for the Khmer because they are so afraid of losing their opportunity to be rich in Cambodia government, once day.

Happy 7 Makara to Sam Rainsy and all Lotus Revolution leaders that are hidding at a very safe places with Champainge.

(Don't just only dare to delete comment just face the truth and reality)

Anonymous said...

it is a marriage of conveniences that the both the US and the vietcong are working together. just as the tricky vietcong are manipulating uncle sam, the US also knows well that the vietcong has no problem switching side to the Chinese, if that would suit their strategy.

regarding the "humanitarian" act of invading Cambodia in 1979, the "savior" vietcong would have made that act an open and permanent act were there no international political pressures and economic embargo that put tremendous and unbearable burden on both the vietcong and their supporter, the USSR. yeah...so much about saving the khmers from the khmer rouge. humanitarian my derriere, coincidence, maybe...

also, regarding the justification that says the more powerful vietcong has inherent rights to protect their interests by perpetually propping their puppet, did the vietcong just conveniently forget their recent fights against France and America????

Anonymous said...

Totally agree with this article and a big thump up to the author. Well done mate.

Pi Anh.

Anonymous said...

To 10:45AM

There is a time and place for everything! It is not the Vietcong slaves or Uncle Ho who can dictate when, where, or what will be in the coming years for Cambodian politic! You Vietshit and the rest of the Vietcong slaves can rest assure that the change will come...

As long as the Khmer people continue to resist the Vietshit domination and they will always have a country to call home, they will have their culture, and their identity!

Anonymous said...

Pissed Off,

Your view and analysis are excellent.
Thank you

Khmer Girl

Anonymous said...

No question abut it the writer of this article is absolutely 100% vietcong, trying to blame on the Khmer Rouge. Youn Vietcong is the creator of the Khmer Rouge and they brain washed the khmer Rouge to destroy Cambodia. It's sad but truth. We're Khmer knew all youn dirty tricks trying to steal our land for many years. Look at Khmer Krom and Champa swallowed up by ruthless Youn Vietcong (Ho Chi Minh ass hole legacy). We don't like your article and your dirty tricks.
Go back to where you belong Youn Ho Chi Minh.

Anonymous said...

Pi Anh

Anh pee on Ah Pee Anh !!!

Anonymous said...

It is only natural for a Viet land-grabbing thief author to divert the attention from the real topic of the day. No matter how big the heap of his retarded opinions is, it is still irrelevant to the topic at hand. This is simply a recurring inherent thievish behavior of any Viet. When the naked truth about their actions is exposed they start to provide irrelevant information that has nothing to do with the topic. The nature of the Viets is simple. That is they never change their thievish behavior no matter what. They never take the responsibility of their own depraved actions. The world labelled the Vietnamese army as the invaders of Cambodia, but the Vietnamese said they came to liberate the Cambodians instead. The world even showed their militaristic policy by quoting the late Nguyen Co Thach's words that the Vietnamese army's main goal was never to intervene in the human rights issues in Cambodia. Yet, the Vietnamese kept saying that they came to liberate. The world said that if it was so then turn Cambodia over to the United Nations just as the Allied Forces did with Germany. The Vietnamese said NO because they came, they saw, and they took over like that. Once in Cambodia, they created the new genocide called the Vietnamese K5 plan. They even tried to steal the Thai territory as well. China had to warn the Vietnamese of the "2nd Lesson". Vietnamese created Pol Pot and helped Pol Pot took over Cambodia. Everything is well documented. The source of evil started with the Vietnamese. Pol Pot killed the Cambodians, and the Vietnamese also killed the Cambodians. We must take the Vietnamese to the World Court to reclaim our ancestral isalnds back. Khmer Krom people must continue to fight for their freedom from the Vietnamese devils.

Anonymous said...

To 10:45 AM
STUPID YUON,

A good Yuon is a dead Yuon.
While kneeling on his knees before me, YOUR
Uncle Ho, with my shit in his mouth begged me for mercy. But I blew his brains out anyway !!!

Anonymous said...

Don't try to erase the history of Pol Pot. Because of a small group of your Viet evils, I and my family had suffered tremendously, plus millions of Khmers died. Please try harder but it won't change my mind. I hate you guys right off start from the Phnom Penh airport.

Anonymous said...

Do not ever let the Vietnamese devils distract any of you Cambodians from the real truth. The Vietnamese occupied Cambodia for over 10 long years. So that was never a liberation. According to various Times' articles regarding Cambodia during the Vietnamese occupation of Cambodia, the Vietnamese created mass starvation throughout the country and as a result more and more Cambodians were dying. The Vietnamese also did not let the United Nations deliver foods to the Cambodians at the time. The Vietnamese plundered Cambodia's natural resources such as timbers and fish, and load up all the Cambodian valuables and properties in army trucks and hauled them all back to their territory. They also created a man-made water way or canal inside Cambodia to create a new border between Vietnam and Cambodia. They also forced Hun Sen to cede Koh Tral Island to their rule. Vietnamese are born devils. They tried to fool the world they only Pol Pot killed the Cambodians, but it was the Vietnamese who killed a great number of Cambodians as well. Remember that Pol Pot's forces could have never taken over the Lon Nol's forces that easily, but the Vietnamese helped Pol Pot's troops win the victory easily. The shameless Vietnamese devils must own up to their immoral actions against the good people of Cambodia. Remember also that it was the Vietnamese who invaded Cambodia as soon as France granted Cambodia's independence. No matter where they are from, both the North and the South Vietnamese all had bloods on their hands from killing the innocent Cambodians. Remember the Phume Chantrea Incident where the South Vietnamese soldiers drove their tanks over innocent Khmer villages both young and old. Vietnamese are devils and they must wear that label as long as every Khmer heart still beats.

Anonymous said...

During Your Khmer Hero Pol Pot time, you will be kill just to mention about how yummy rice noodle soup at Phom Phen. Pol Pot leadership Khmer Rouge killed even babies, pregnant women and children without fear of Human Rifg Violation that is your truth nature of hero called Pol Pot. When the regime has fail Pol Pot shift blame to other. That is so represent of irresponsible leader who lead his own nation to disaster and replace by Chinese.

Pol Pot killed all Khmer engineering but ask Korea and Chinese engineer for help, think about it!

Without 7 Makara, No more Khmer people but only Chinese instead that is the policies of Pol Pot with China.

Sam Rainsy and all lotus revolution must kneel and thanks Uncle Ho for saving your Khmer people from killing field. At that time, America and UN didn't care about human right violation at all and only Vietnam help you Khmer people from killing field. America and UN known very well what happen inside Cambodia at Pol Pot time by observing from satellites images scan but America and UN were ignored what they saw from satellites scan.

Ask yourself before you hate 7 Makara. What did America and UN help Khmers during Pol Pot killing field? And why don't they prevent that from happening? Why did they just watch from Satellites scan and pretending nothing happen in Cambodia during Pol Pot time? Ask yourself why the top leaders of Khmer Rouge such as Nuon Chea, Leng Sary, Khieu Samphan, Leng Thirith and many more have 100 of millions dollar in their bank account for their children now and their followers have nothing?

Think!

Anonymous said...

During Your Khmer Hero Pol Pot time, you will be kill just to mention about how yummy rice noodle soup at Phom Phen. Pol Pot leadership Khmer Rouge killed even babies, pregnant women and children without fear of Human Rifg Violation that is your truth nature of hero called Pol Pot. When the regime has fail Pol Pot shift blame to other. That is so represent of irresponsible leader who lead his own nation to disaster and replace by Chinese.

Pol Pot killed all Khmer engineering but ask Korea and Chinese engineer for help, think about it!

Without 7 Makara, No more Khmer people but only Chinese instead that is the policies of Pol Pot with China.

Sam Rainsy and all lotus revolution must kneel and thanks Uncle Ho for saving your Khmer people from killing field. At that time, America and UN didn't care about human right violation at all and only Vietnam help you Khmer people from killing field. America and UN known very well what happen inside Cambodia at Pol Pot time by observing from satellites images scan but America and UN were ignored what they saw from satellites scan.

Ask yourself before you hate 7 Makara. What did America and UN help Khmers during Pol Pot killing field? And why don't they prevent that from happening? Why did they just watch from Satellites scan and pretending nothing happen in Cambodia during Pol Pot time? Ask yourself why the top leaders of Khmer Rouge such as Nuon Chea, Leng Sary, Khieu Samphan, Leng Thirith and many more have 100 of millions dollar in their bank account for their children now and their followers have nothing?

Think!

Anonymous said...

Vietnam liberated Cambodia on 01/07/1979 from the brutality of Pol Pot regime. But this liberation was not out of a humanitarian concern, Vietnam had an agenda and a strategic calculation.

(1)The Vietnamese occupation of Cambodia allowed Vietnam to control Cambodia for maximizing its interest.

(2)In additions to unequal treaties that gave advantages to Vietnam’s claim over disputed territories along the eastern border of Cambodia and islands (Kah Tral),

(3)Vietnam was able to exploit Cambodian natural resources, mainly forest and fishery.

(4)Furthermore, many millions of Vietnamese illegal immigrants were an issue that the Cambodian government was not in a position to counter.

Anonymous said...

Vietnam needs to liberate Cambodia one more time to create a non-dictatorial regime that will be friendly and neighborly. Keeping the old puppet for such a long time only serves to create and confirm constant distrust and hostility.

Anonymous said...

To 12:20 PM,

We well thought the whole thing out, YOU did not.
7 Maccara has been the day of infemy of the full scale invasion of Cambodia.
Hanoi used the pretence of ' saving " Cambodia from the Killing Fields.
The Killing Fields were the by-products of Ho Chin Minh's Master Plan.
Since when, where, what and how, evil Yuon are nice, courteous, respectable, helpful toward Khmers ?

Rember: " Proa Jat Kom Pup Tae' Ong " !!!

Khmer Who Loves Khmers

Anonymous said...

The writer is Ah Kantorb.

He made so much sense for the Vietnamese thieves but not for Khmer people.

Stop hiding your hypocrisy evil Vietnam. We are so sick to see your tricks that have been causing Khmer people so much pain.

Vietnam has played both roles: the killer and the rescuer.

Enough Asshole Vietnam !!

Anonymous said...

A thief in the process of robbing a house found that the owner and members of his family were being tied up and killed. The killer, when confronted by the thief, panicked ran away. So the thief declared himself the liberator of the remaining victims.

Anonymous said...

The writter must be the son of Ho Chi Minh.

The writer did not mention that it was the Vietnamese that created the Khmer Rouge.

It was the Vietnamese that created the Khmer Vietminh.

It was the Vietnamese that send in spies inflitrating the Khmer Rouge.

It was the Vietnamese that recruited the Vietnamese to join in with the Khmer Rouge.

It was the Vietnamese that used Cambodia as a proxi ground against the Americans.

It was the Vietnamese that allowed the Allowed the Americans to bombs the Communist Vietnamese in Cambodia.

It was the Vietnamese that invaded Laos, not one but 3 times, from 1954 to 1976.

It was the Vietnamese that also invaded Cambodia not in 1979, but from the 1954 to 1976.

It was the Vietnamese that killed millions of Khmer and using Pol Pot as a scapegoat.

It was the Vietnamese that exploited the Khmer resources after the Vietnamese invasion, emptying the mines resources and rainforest during the 10 years occupation.

It was the Vietnamese that created genocide in the K5 Planning in the 1980.

It was the Vietnamese that ordered the killing of many Khmer behinding behind Hun Sen during the 1997 Coup when Hun Sen lost the election.

It was the Vietnamese that signed many land treaty stealing Koh Tral from the 1980s.

It was the Vietnamese that sends in millions of Youn after the 1979 invasion.

It was the Vietnamese that have caused so much suffering against the Khmer native in their own land.

It was the Vietnamese that created murderous genocide against the Champa Kingdom, murdering and raping every women and child, prosecuting many Cham into exile into Cambodia.

It was the Vietnamese behind the Cham Genocide after the Vietnamese installed Pol Pot as a leader.

Why shouldnt we blame the Vietnamese for all the evil intention they have toward us Khmer?

Havent we seen how evil the Vietnamese are, creating many wars against the Americans, against the French, South Vietnamese against North Vietnamese, Vietnamese against the Champa, Vietnamese against the Khmer Krom.

Evil Vietnamese must be repayed for their sin against our Khmer.

Anonymous said...

It is easy to understand between the savior and the invader.
I can clearly declare that vietnam DID NOT come to save cambodians.
I used to help and save someone who were in trouble and despair.
As a helper or savior you and me are not suppose to take anything from the victims.
I saw lots of vietnamese trucks coming into phnom penh collected everything from the storehouses loading into those trucks covering them properly and drove off to vietnam days and nights.
what do you think of that ?
I think it was an act of stealing and robbing.
Vietnam still carrying on this act of stealing, robbing, exploiting and even killing cambodian people.

Plus looking into history, vietnam is definitely NOT a savior at all.
So please stop cheating and invading cambodia.

I AM SURE SOON GOD WILL JUDGE AND PUNISH YOU VIETNAM ACCORDING TO YOUR SIN DEED.
YOU CAN PLAY DIRTY TRICKS WITH PEOPLE BUT NOT WITH GOD.

Anonymous said...

Long Live Hun Sen, Long Live Viet Nam. Forever be the master of stupid Khmer and good work Hun Sen and CPP for serving your Viet Nam Master well..

Kill all the useless khmer....

Anonymous said...

I agreed with you.. with Viet Nam Hun Sen and his family would never make and pocket billions billions of dollars... Now Hun Sen and CPP forever serve the Viet Nam Master... Good work Hun Sen for cheating Chinese money and bring to Khmer and feed our Vietnamese brothers and Sisters that live in Cambodia.. Stupid Chinese ... good work Hun Sen and CPP and Viet Nam

Anonymous said...

THIS WRITER IS EITHER VIET SPY OR KHMER TRAITOR. EVERYTHING THAT THIS TRAITOR SAY IS ABOUT LEGITIMIZE VIET ENCROACHMENT ON KHMER LAND. EVERY AGREEMENT THAT WAS AGREE AND SIGN BY VIETNAM EITHER DURING VIETNAM WAR WITH AMERICAN OR WITH INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION, CAMBODIA ETC WILL NEVER RESPECTED OR HONOR IT AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND VIET EXPECT THOSE WHO SIGNED AGREEMENT WITH VIET THIEVES IS EXPECTED TO HONOR IT THIS IS VERY UNJUSTICE. VIET THIEVE HAS HELP PUT KHMER ROUGH IN POWER AND TO FIND OUT THAT POL POT ARE REBELLED AGAINST VIET ENCROACHMENT THAT WAS THE REASON THAT VIET TURN TO HUN THUG TO DO THE JOB OF ASSIST VIET THIEVE OF ENCROACHING ON CAMBODIA. THERE IS NO LAW UPHELD OR JUSTICE IN CAMBODIA TODAY BECAUSE OF VIET ENCROACHMENT ON KHMER THE WORLD KNOWS IT! TALKING ABOUT KHMER EMPIRE, WE KHMER WE MAY BE GO TO WAR WITH CHAMPA BUT WE NEVER ENCROACH ON THEIR LAND, LIKE VIET THIEVE DID TO KHMER TODAY. SO THIS WRITER IS VERY,VERY,VERY WRONG! BECAUSE VIETNAM IS A NATURAL EVIL FORCE ON THIS PLANET EARTH. THEY CAN COMMIT SERIOUS CRIMES AND SAY THAT THEY ARE OUR SAVIOR. THEY ARE VERY GOOD AT TWISTING FACTS.

Anonymous said...

We respect the opinion of this writer. He probably is the academic student of Political Science Major. Whatever, be aware that Cambodia is a unique situation, we should not compare to other nations or the rule of game in international relation. Don't be foolish to believe that Hanoi only wants Cambodia and Laos to be its friendly neighbors as Canada and Mexico to the US. Vietnam invaded Cambodia and installed the puppet regime to serve its interest. When Hanoi withdrew its troop, it left thousands of its secret agents to operate in Cambodia until today. To reinforce its conquest, Vietnam has kept sending its million of illegal immigrants to settle in Cambodia. And one Vietnamese mean one vote count for the CPP. in addition, Hanoi controls Khmer through economic concession such as 99 years land lease deal, free economic zone of so called Triangle Development Zone of the three countries, and a number of business deals through Sokemec of Sok Kong who run and owns Angkor Wat and Bokor Resort which is the place of Khmer soul. By the end of this century, Vietnamese will outnumber to Khmer people like Kampuchea Krom, and all Vietnamese businesses will deeply root in Cambodia. Any thing else we can say? This is the end of Khmer Nation. If Hanoi just wants Khmer to be its friendly neighbor, we so welcomed it because we are weaker and smaller, there is no reason that Hanoi fear us. But based on history and the current situation in our country, there is no way to justify that Vietnam just wants us to be its friendly neighbor but to swallow and take over our motherland.

Anonymous said...

If Vietnam wants to be a good neighbor of Cambodia, it should have let United Nations take over Cambodia after removing Pol Pot from power in Phnom-Penh.

Vietnam should never have occupied Cambodia for 10 years from 1979 to 1989 and sent 6 millions of Vietnamese illegal immigrants to exploit the natural resource of Cambodia and annexed a few thousand squares kilometers of lands and 30,000. square kilometers of maritime territories including our big island Kah Tral.

Vietnam is an international thief and knows how to hide its bad intentions in front of international communities. It is an untrustworthy nation full of malevolence.

Anonymous said...

Please refrain yourself from calling your fellow Khmer who has a different opinion as a Vietnamese. If he his/her argument ventures too far from the fact, let us encourage him/her to do some more studies. If one truly wants to know the fact, there are plenty of sources available on line or in libraries for one to analyze to form a coherent conclusion.

Regardless of all the propaganda, Vietnam with preponderance of evidence planned an invasion of Cambodia that resulted in January 7, 1979. The recruitment of Cambodian force ( Samech Hun Sen, Heng Samrin, and others were some of the original members) only happened toward the end of the plan after Vietnam received a blessing from the Soviet Union. Although the invasion toppled the Khmer Rouge regime who was systematically slaughtered its people, Khmer people was not freed.

When the author of this article claims that, “The truth is Vietnam is not encroaching upon Cambodia, it is not trying to subjugate Cambodia, and it is not plotting to turn Cambodia into Vietnam or Cambodians in Vietnamese,” notice that he/she uses present tense here. There is some truth to this. The encroachment is not happening right now. The impact of the past encroachment could not be more profound. Our leaders (Samdech Hun Sen and many in his government) still act as thought we are the same slaves to Vietnam as we were before 1993.

Changing our ways and our psyche to act as an independent and free people should be the main topic of discussion.

We are free.

Anonymous said...

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!

FREE câ ṕhê trôn Hâñôi Blvđ. ô đâu Nàḿ Bêñh, Nàḿbôđia.

ខ្មោច

Anonymous said...

You seem to know that anonymous writer's mentality real well, eh 12:58 AM?

Why don't you tell us more of what you know since you opt to be advocating civility and everything else that revolves around the Viet's true color, please?

I'll owe you one!


Passwer-By

Anonymous said...

Passer-By***

Anonymous said...

If yuon know that they are introuble they will use their women Vagina as a tool to wins their opponents just look at the histories of Vagina's controlled by yuon to their opponents in the past; ChayjaythaII,Sdach Sinorook and now Hun sucks!...There are many vagina's controlled in Cpp govt more than any other regime now than ever before.Laos is completely controlled by Yuon's Vagina on all top rank officials tthatwise Laos is completely submissive to yuon pussy Kampuchea is still have hope!..

PuzC

Anonymous said...

7 Makara was a bad day for our motherland, Cambodia. Under the pretext of liberating Cambodia, Vietnam invaded and occupied a big portion of Cambodian land in the eastern border of Cambodia and about 30,000 square kilometers of Cambodian maritime territories including our biggest island Kah tral.

We, Khmer nationalists, should support our patriotic leaders, Sam Rainsy and Kem Sokha to win the national election first and then use all legal means such as International court of Justice at the Hague and the United Nations based on Cambodia Map deposited at the UN in 1963.

Sam Rainsy is the best Kaun Khmer patriot who dares to declare that Vietnam is the new colonialist that annexed most of Cambodian territory. That is why he is the only Khmer that Vietnam is afraid of. Vietnam try by all mean to eliminate him from Cambodia by using its puppet government and kangaroo court in Cambodia to deny Sam Rainsy in entering Cambodia.

This is the 21st century; Vietnam can not colonize Cambodia as the last century. The 1991 Paris Peace Agreement signed by 19 signatory countries including Cambodia and Vietnam will protect Cambodia against Vietnam's occupation.

No matter how sneaky Vietnam is, it will not be able to hide its bad intention any more. The world knows that Vietnam is not a honest nation. Vietnam is a thief who never respects its promise.

During Vietnam American war, King Sihanouk of Cambodia helped Vietnam by offering a sentinel or a hiding place near the border of Cambodia and Vietnam to protect Vietnamese and Vietcong from US bombing. In return Vietnam repays the debt by taking a big chunk of Cambodian territory including Kah Tral.

If Vietnam wants to be a good neighbor of Cambodia, it should have let United Nations take over Cambodia after removing Pol Pot from power in Phnom-Penh.

Vietnam should never have occupied Cambodia for 10 years from 1979 to 1989 and sent 6 millions of Vietnamese illegal immigrants to exploit the natural resource of Cambodia and annexed a few thousand squares kilometers of lands and 30,000. square kilometers of maritime territories including our big island Kah Tral.

Vietnam is an international thief and knows how to hide its bad intentions in front of international communities. It is an untrustworthy nation full of malevolence.

Anonymous said...

To 12:10 AM,
Happy anniversary to Yuon invader ONLY,
NOT to Khmers !!!

Anonymous said...

People around Mr Sam Rainsy are just opportunistic people who are waiting for profit in Cambodia goverment once day but they don't dare to die protecting their motherland Cambodia.

How can Sam Rainsy be strong if all people around him are coward and opportunistic?

Anonymous said...

Lotus Revolution leaders are the most shit coward and useless people.

They are also opportunistic people who provoke other to die for them so they can be rich once day as Hun Sen.

Even America President dare to die protecting America but Lotus Revolution leaders are waiting for opportunities to be rich by just provoking innocent khmer people to die for them to be rich as Hun Sen once day.

Anonymous said...

5:53 AM That is why Khmer weaker and weaker because Khmers don't have real hero as America.

99% of Khmer leaders are just opportunistic and their main dream is to be rich like Hun Sen and they don't dare to die for the Khmer.

Sam Rainsy! You know it very well that people around and below you are just opportunistic people.

Anonymous said...

The invasion by communist Vietcong barbarian only takes two weeks to reach Phnom Pench and liberated the whole Cambodia, but malnutrtion took two years, why?

This question was asked by one of the respected American news anchor to the Vietcong leader, but the Vietshit making all kind of excuses just like this ignorant
writer, "WHAT A SHAME".

The communist Vietcong barbarian promised R. Nixon not to invade South Vietnam at the negotiating table, but when American completely withdrew, this Vietcong manipulator took the opportunity and invade South Vietnam without shame. Anything else you want to explain, DUMB-ASS writer?

So the conclusion is: The communist Vietcong barbarian is an opportunistic, manipulator, an expansionsm, the most asshole country who never feel shamefull when it comes taking its neigbore territories.



Anonymous said...

"People around Mr Sam Rainsy are just opportunistic people who are waiting for profit in Cambodia goverment once day but they don't dare to die protecting their motherland Cambodia."

5:49 AM,

This comments only applies to the Vietcong puppet CPP shit and its leaders.

At least people around S. Rainsy never submmited to its mortal enemy - The communist Vietcong barbarian, and ceded their motherland to its neighbor, the opportunistic Vietcong like CPP shit.

That's the main reasons: Anything
else you want to say "DUMB-ASS?


Anonymous said...

7:09 AM. very well said. I fully agreed with you.

Vietnam is an untrustworthy nation with malicious intentions. During the cold war, it side with Soviet Union and China to fight American in south Vietnam. After the Vietnam war, it signed a friendship treaty with Soviet Union to prevent china from helping Pol Pot's Cambodia so that it could invade Cambodia at will.

Vietnam listen to the language of force only, China know how to deal with this malevolent nation. We will see how china will destroy Vietnamese navy in the Paracel and spratly island in South China sea.

Anonymous said...

មានតែធម៌ក្ដៅទេទើបប្រដៅយួនបាន?
សូមព្រពុទ្ធព្រះធម៌ព្រះសង្ឃដ៏ពិតមិនក្លែងក្លាយ
ដូចមានបន្លំច្រើនសព្វថ្ងៃនេះ ជួយប្រដៅយួន
អោយក្លាយជាពូជសាសន៍ស្លូតបូត សុភាពរាបសា
ឈប់់លួចឆក់់ប្លន់់ ទឹកដីខ្មែរ ហើយប្រគល់់ទឹកដីខ្មែរទំាងប៉ុន្មានដែលវាលួច
ប្លន់់ពីខ្មែរអោយមកខ្មែរវិញ។ឯសៀមនោះ ក៏
អញ្ចឹងដែរ។ពេលនេះ អត់មានអ្វីជាទីពឹង មានតែពឹងព្រះពុទ្ធព្រះធម៌ព្រះសង្ឃសិនហើយ
ពីព្រោះខ្មែរមិនអាក្រក់់ ដូចពួកជាតិពូជចោរទំាង
នោះទេ។

Anonymous said...

7:34 AM is another opportunistic around Sam Rainsy, He/she doesn't dare to die protecting his/her motherland Cambodia but only talk shit coward! Coward! Coward! that is why Angkor Watt temples ownby Vietnamese agent Sok Kong. What are you gonna do about that coward?

Anonymous said...

Ki media suppress freedom of speech by deleting any comment that are not serving KI media.

No wonder KI media is blocking by Cambodia goverment. KI media is now decreasing it pupolarity because everyone aware that KI media delete comments.

KI media is suppressing freedom of expression.

KI media is losing popularity and audience because it deletes any comments that not serve KI media interest.

Kalonh Chuck said...

May I, if it's all possible, suggest we change the title of this post to read:

Vietnam was not the savior of Cambodians, but the invader of Cambodia Please?

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

10:18 AM

Ki media suppress freedom of speech by deleting any comment that are not serving KI media.

No wonder KI media is blocking by Cambodia goverment. KI media is now decreasing it pupolarity because everyone aware that KI media delete comments.

KI media is suppressing freedom of expression.

KI media is losing popularity and audience because it deletes any comments that not serve KI media interest.

Anonymous said...

The a bove writter is Lao Monhay children or stendents

Anonymous said...

What are the Viets known for in this world? Being hard-core thieves is what they are good at. The Viet thieves steal too much that in the Khmer language, the word Thieve is a synonym for Viets. Another label the Viets are known for is being ingrates. The Khmer were the first to offer these homeless rats a refuge inside the Khmer territory, but they later claimed that the territory was theirs instead. Other label for the Viets is dog. The Viets steal too and eat too many dogs that they look and smell like dogs. The Viets also wear another label. That is parasites. The parasitic Viets enjoy killing their host countries. The Viets are the destructive virus that everyone in the world can do without.

Anonymous said...

Vietshit Flag said "Determination"

9:00 AM, is another Vietshit who care nothing less except - Determination to take any easy prey just like its flag said.

Since the 1600s, the communist Vietcong barbarian never change its attitude. Their generations is dirty shit, and nothing about dignity. Vietcong dignity is about fucking whore and South East Asia pirate.

Anonymous said...

On January 7, 1979, Yuon invaded Cambodia to save Khmers, but fulfill Ho Chin Minh's Master Plan.

Anonymous said...

Oops! Correction,
" not to save Khmers, but to fulfill "

Anonymous said...


Part I
****Why Cambodians Hate Viets and Proof of What Viets created in Cambodia****
By the seventeenth century, the Vietnamese had reached the Mekong Delta, which was inhabited by Khmer people. In 1623, the Vietnamese requested the Khmer king Chey Chettha II to allowed them to establish a custom-house at Prey Nokor (Saigon/HCHC) to collect taxes from the Vietnamese settlers living in the Khmer territory. However, gradually, the Vietnamese took control of the region and detached from Cambodia.

For the next one hundred years they used the alleged mistreatment of Vietnamese colonists in the delta as a pretext for their continued expansion at the expense of the Khmer people. By the end of the 18th century, the Vietnamese had annexed sizable areas of contiguous Cambodian territory in the region of the Mekong Delta.

Under the Vietnamese arbitrary treatment of the Khmer population, the suffering and the dislocation caused by war were comparable in many ways to similar Cambodian experiences in the 1970s. The Vietnamese regarded the fertile Khmer lands as legitimate sites for colonization by settlers from Vietnam.

Before WWII, the Vietnamese created the Indochinese Communist Party. Then the Vietnamese created a separate communist party called the “Khmer People’s Revolutionary Party” (KPRP) to struggle for independence from the French. Pol Pot became a member of the KPRP. Most KPRP leaders and rank-and-file were ethnic Vietnamese living in Cambodia. However, in 1953, Prince Sihanouk had achieved independence for Cambodia from France without the help of the Vietnamese created KPRP. The Vietnamese were so angry. So in April 1954, In April 1954, several Viet Minh battalions crossed the border into Cambodia. Prince Sihanouk’s forces could not force them to withdraw from the country. After Cambodia won its independence from France, over 1,000 members of the KPRP made a “"Long March" into North Vietnam, where they remained in exile. However, those KPRP members who chose to stay in Cambodia created a new political party called Pracheachon Party. It went underground in 1962 and Prince Sihanouk labeled these leftists as the “Khmer Rouge”.
When the Khmer Rouge tried to take over Cambodia by force, the North Vietnamese came to help their KPRP members by sweeping the government forces from the entire northeastern third of Cambodia. The North Vietnamese turned the won territories over to the Khmer Rouge forces. Pol Pot's debt to the North Vietnamese after March 1970 was one that he was loath to acknowledge; however, it is clear that without North Vietnamese and Viet Cong assistance, Pol Pot’s revolutionary struggle would have dragged on much longer than it did. ...Continued to Part II

Anonymous said...

1:45 PM

Anonymous said...
Part II

After taking over Cambodia, Pol Pot called his administration the Democratic Kampuchea regime. However, the Vietnamese thought that Pol Pot was straying too far from their sphere of influence. So in January 1979, the Vietnamese decided to force Pol Pot out of power from Cambodia. The Vietnamese were successful and they installed another Vietnamese friendly KPRP member (Heng Samrin) as the puppet ruler of Cambodia. At the end the Vietnamese effectively assumed control over Cambodia’s government and communist party.

When Cambodia was under their military control, the Vietnamese started to renege on the border agreements they had made with Cambodia in 1970. Nguyen Co Thach said that the Cambodia situation is irreversible because the IndoChina Union concept was materialized. Then they exploited Cambodia’s timber, minerals, and fish resources worth hundreds of millions of dollars in eastern Cambodia and the great lake. Then they allowed illegal Vietnamese immigrants to settle in key economic areas in Cambodia. The Vietnamese made Cambodia’s hunger problem worse, and more Cambodians died as a result of a famine across the whole country. The Vietnamese troops systematically pillaged Cambodian shops, homes, and Buddhist temples. They took back to Hanoi machines, household appliances, furniture, Buddha heads, and donated rice intended for Cambodian refugees. The Vietnamese did not allowed the international large-scale relief efforts of food into Cambodia to help the starving Cambodians. One Western diplomat said, “The Vietnamese simply don't give a damn about what happens to the Cambodians." The Vietnamese troops laid hundreds of thousands of landmines in Cambodia. Under the Vietnamese occupation of Cambodia, torture and arbitrary executions remained a feature of life for many Cambodians. The worst abuse of human rights was perpetrated by the colossal Vietnamese created K-5 Plan, the intention of which was to seal the border to Thailand by a combination of deforestation, dykes, canals, strategic fences, and minefields. This ambition caused thousands of deaths: out of the labour force of some 120.000 used for the realization of this plan, over 50.000 died because of working in some of the worst terrain in Cambodia, containing not only dangerous minefields, but also thick forests, full of malaria.

Regarding what the Vietnamese did FOR the Pol Pot’s troops, here is one observation: “Vietnamese troops outnumbered the Khmer Rouge 7 to 1, but despite brilliant planning and opportunities, the Vietnamese never once used every single opportunity to maul the Khmer Rouge and destroy its combat capability: instead the Vietnamese allowed a considerable number to retreat to their traditional strongholds in the Cardamom Mountains. Even under the protection of the victorious Vietnamese forces, the remaining Khmer Rouge forces always managed to swoop down at night to attack and kill the defenseless Cambodian village inhabitants. It remains unclear how could Hanoi let this happen. However, many observers concluded that Hanoi could never destroy their Khmer Rouge friends whom they created and supported. Hanoi noted clearly that puppet government in Cambodia was largely consisting of former Khmer Rouge members: the new president, Heng Samrin, for example, had held a high rank in the Rouge and was one of the politicians directly responsible for the implementation of the genocidal politics. Hun Sen (later Prime minister), Chea Sim, and Math Ly (members of the national assembly), Kang Sarin, Ney Penna, Nou Beng and others were all former Khmer Rouge, and responsible for some of the worst atrocities in the Eastern Province."

Anonymous said...

***Vietnamese and the Khmer Rouge Pol Pot and Hun Sen***

After the fall of Sihanouk in 1970, the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong began transferring their military installations away from the border area to locations deeper within Cambodian territory. However, on January 27, 1973, betraying their allies the Khmer Rouge, North Vietnam signed the Paris Peace Accords with the United States to stop all bombing missions over Vietnam and Laos. The fighter bombers and other aircraft thus released were diverted to strike Khmer Rouge positions in Cambodia.

Not trusting the Vietnamese allies no more, Pol Pot decided to remove all North Vietnamese military forces from Kampuchean territory shortly after the Khmer Rouge capture of Phnom Penh in 1975.

The first clash was on the island of Koh Tral on May 1975. The second clash was in Tho Chu. The Vietnamese invaded Cambodia’s island of Koh Wai in June 1975.

Towards the end of 1976, the Vietnamese wanted to exert its control over Pol Pot’s communist party created by the Vietnamese. However, the Vietnamese realized that their position inside Cambodia was weak as there were no pro-Vietnamese elements left within the Pol Pot Communist Party.[26]

Vietnamese Prime Minister Pham Van Dong and General Secretary of the Communist Party Le Duan hoped to exercise greater influence on the Khmer Rouge. In a private meeting with the Soviet ambassador to Vietnam on 16 November 1976, Le Duan dismissed both Ieng Sary and Pol Pot as "bad people".[26] Le Duan hoped to exercise Vietnamese influence through Nuon Chea instead.

However, the Khmer leadership learned of the Vietnamese intention, and they started to purge the first group of North Vietnamese-trained Khmer Rouge personnel returned to the country.

On June 7, 1979, the Vietnam People's Army moved its troops into the disputed areas. Pol Pot demanded that Vietnam remove all of its military units from the disputed areas, and create a demilitarised zone between the opposing forces.[28]

On December 16, 1977, the Vietnam People’s Army assembled eight divisions, estimated at around 60,000 soldiers, with support from elements of the Vietnam People's Air Force, crossed the border along several axes with the objective of forcing the Kampuchean Government to negotiate.[29]

On 31 December 1977, Khieu Sampham declared that the Kampuchean Government would "temporarily" sever diplomatic relations with Vietnam until the Vietnamese military withdraw from the "sacred territory of Democratic Kampuchea".[30] On 6 January 1978, Vietnamese divisions were only 38 kilometers (24 mi) from Phnom Penh, but the Vietnamese Government decided to withdraw its forces from Kampuchea because they had failed to achieve Vietnam’s political objective. During the withdrawal, the Vietnamese military also evacuated thousands of prisoners and civilian refugees, including future leader Hun Sen.[30]

Anonymous said...

Thanks you for the above story...this is quite clear, is this froma book or a website?

Anonymous said...

Should Vietnam entered Cambodia to topple Khmer Rouges, and to save the Khmer people?

Yes.

Should Vietnam leave immediately after Khmer Rouges toppled?

No. Khmer Rouges were too strong and will come back to power and revenge on the Khmer people for not standing up to Vietnam's invasion.

How long should Vietnam have stayed in Cambodia to stabilize the country?

Nobody really knows, but ten years seemed to have done the job.

Anonymous said...

Koh Tral is Khmer then, now, and in the future. Based on a thousand years old human settlement and archeological evidence on the island, the island of Koh Tral was of the Khmer. According to royal records, Koh Tral island had never been abandoned by the Khmer court. The French did not signed away Koh Tral island to the Viets. The Viets had to manipulate Hun Sen to sign away Koh Tral when Cambodia was under the Vietnamese military occupation. When Hun Sen is gone, the issue of Koh Tral will be raised at the International Court so that the island can be returned to Cambodia. May the remaining Khmer territory stay in tact for all the later Khmer generations to enjoy. Amen. God bless Cambodia and Cambodians.