Tuesday, October 01, 2013

XMEN: Why to negotiate and work with the CPP is to betray the will of the electorate



The people have spoken - The Cambodian people are prepared to go the distance to bring about meaningful change, but will Opposition leaders be inclined to be part of their fight?  - School of Vice


Op-ed by XMEN

Cambodia National Rescue Party’s intention is to win the 5th Mandate of the National Election in Cambodia and it did win; however, it was stolen by the CPP and the National Election Committee. The people of Cambodia must hold CPP and NEC accountable for their crimes against the people of Cambodia.

There should NOT be any negotiation between CPP and CNRP. The will of the people has already spoken out loud; the people do not want CPP to rule for the next five years, thus CPP has no other choice but to submit to the will of the people. CNRP must continue to challenge CPP based on Rule of Law and they are the followings:

1. Cambodian Constitution
2. National Election Laws

Although the people have already known NEC, CPP and Constitutional Council of Cambodia are all in this together, or at least they are from the same political party, thus there is no way CNRP will ever get a fair chance on the electoral ballot, but the Cambodia National Rescue Party has the people behind them if not all, at least 85% of the people will back CNRP. In this respect, CNRP has nothing to lose and to pursue CPP under the laws and bringing this attention to the World Community, United States of America, European Unions, Australia and finally, the United Nations.

My recommendation is for the CNRP not to join the CPP since the latter is the guilty party that stole this election from the People of Cambodia. If the CNRP has decided to join this government, it means the CNRP has sold their souls to the CPP and the CNRP does not care about the country, but their own personal interests.


Patrick Henry once said, “ Give me liberty or give me death.” He expressed himself on March 23, 1775 during a speech made before the Virginia House of Burgesses at Saint John’s Church.

Under the Cambodian Election Laws and responsibilities, the National Election Committee has violated most of the Articles in Election Laws. The only possible way that CPP can join and make it right for CNRP is for CPP to recognize the real winner and that is CNRP (63) while CPP (60). His Excellency Sam Rainsy will take a Prime Minister position, His Excellency Kem Sokha will be a Deputy Premiership and CPP can either put Sok An, Sar Kheng or whoever they think will be a better candidate for their own political party. This is one approach to solve this crisis, but I doubt that CPP will accept this idea. On the contrary, to accept the CPP (68) CNRP (55), although not a great idea, but ONLY IF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET BY THE CPP AND AGREES:

1. To make His Excellency Sam Rainsy the Leader of the House of Parliament and His Excellency Kem Sokha the Vice Chairman of the House of Parliament;

2. To remove all current members of the National Election Committee and reform the Election Laws;

3. To replace all the Members of the Constitutional Council and be placed with the new four (4) members from CNRP and three (3) members from CPP;

4. To amend the Constitution pertaining to the Terms of Limitation of all government employees specifically the Prime Minster Position (Two Terms - Five Years Each Term) and can never be re-elected in any public offices); Both House and Senate members of representatives shall represent in the House of Parliament and the House of Senate of no more than (Two Terms – Two Years Each Term)and these members of the House and Senates can run for public offices at any given times, but through an electoral process.

If CPP agrees to this agreement CNRP will be able to join the new Opening Ceremony of Cambodian Parliament celebrates the 5th Mandate of the New National Assembly of 2013.

I hope this message will find its rightful owner and become key issues in solving this election problem.


Thanks School of Vice.


XMEN

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

Lok XMEN,
Excellent!
Regards,
Ly Diep

Anonymous said...

Any negotiation with the CPP should only be done if the majority of the voters want it.

If not, serious mass demonstrations must be done to paralyze the CPP's illegal government until it yields to the will of the people.

The CNRP has no mandate to decide on whether to hold demonstration or not. Its mandate is to carry out the will of the majority of its supporting voters!

If the people want it, they are prepared to pay for it!

Pissed Off

Anonymous said...



Hun Sen must understand that Cambodian people need to change to new government.

It means no more Prime Minister Hun Sen forever. You can move your people into a different order or into different positions it not going to help you stay in the Prime Minister position.

No Dictator in Cambodia any more.

Hun Sen must respect the outcome of the election is CNRP won the election 63 seats and CPP won 60 seats.

75 per cents of Cambodian people are not recognizing new Hun Sen government. Protest will continuous until people get their satisfaction.

Jendhamuni said...

Dear School Of Voice,

This is a great Op-ed by XMEN. People believe and trust CNRP very much. We cannot hurt them. A move against their wish will be very harmful for the party. As human, we all know that rebuilding trust after being hurt is very difficult.

~Jendhamuni

Anonymous said...

A BOVE ALL GOOD, BUT I HAVE TO SALE, DOG,CAT,...TO SUPPORTING CNRP'S 'LEADER LOP LES' SPANDING TIME AROUND!

Anonymous said...

OK, let this be a lesson. You don't build an empire in one day or like the Romans said, "you don't build Rome in one day". You cannot expect lives to be lost with violence without sacrificing your own or your family.
It took 30 years to build this monstrosity of a dictatorship. You certainly cant expect this to be an easy resolution. The Chinese and the Yuons are heavily invest in the CPP government. Do you think they will make it easy for Hun Sen and the CPP just to walk away? Check it out the damn Finance Minster. The mdotherfucker look like a clown in a clown suit, do you think he deserve that position? Of course not.
The CNRP are well educated and love Srok Khmer. Don't forget that. The leaders will do what best for our mother land and for the people...please dear God, don't forget that. Only God know how much the leaders of the CNRP want to help Cambodia and its people from falling into Vietnamese occupation like Laos is.

Guio

Anonymous said...

We often give our enemies the means for our own destruction.
Aesop

Anonymous said...

Vietnam is back behind HUN ZEN and order HUN XEN to do whatever they wanted to serve their interest, Vietnam want to swallow Cambodia, so no other way Vietnam let HUN SEN to have free and fair election.

HUN XEN has committed a lot of crimes killing too Cambodian people and also gave Cambodian land to Vietnam and also gave Cambodian island, forestry, land concession, natural resources and let 4 Vietnamese refugees living in Cambodia, from these reasons HUN XEN has never wished to step down and He has never wished to have a free and fair election, he want to stay on the power for another 30 years then transfer to his kids to avoid of being Hanged or facing the World criminal court ?

Anonymous said...

What cnrp leader can do?? they has to share the power any way.If cpp won't share the power than cnrp just won't joint it and than cnrp have a power to find it out about the vote.IF cnrp have nothing and joint them wouldn't be any good.It like KANN KDOR OUY AH HUN SEN NOUM
It's better to stay out.

Anonymous said...

THE CAMBODIAN CUP FINAL!

CPP 3 vs. CNRP 2

Note: next cup in 2018 will be held at Hun Sen Stadium (100,000 capacity) still under construction formerly bueng kek lake resident.

Bo said...

With the negotiations, CNRP leadership would accept 55 Seat plus taken President of Parliament. This would be suicidal for CNRP. I thought Rainsy knew math, if not ask Ranarith because he was the President of Parliament in 1998. I have no faith in CNRP leadership for the ways they negotiate and to how they conduct their protests. Mark my words, CNRP will join the Hun Sen Regime in near future. Hope that I am wrong.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Sam Rainsy must never negotiate, reconciliation and obey the 2 CPP crazy Laws below. Today Cambodia is Laws less. HUN SEN Laws are to ban opposition party to win an election.

1. Cambodian Constitution - only crazy people obey this crazy constitution.

2. National Election Laws - only crazy people obey this crazy Laws. If Hun Sen obey this laws CNRP will win an election.

If Sam Rainsy obey those laws he is a loser. Violent mass protests must start now as you promise to sacrifice your life for Cambodian and Cambodian are sacrifying their life for CHANGE.

Anonymous said...

Rainsy believe in praying and asking this king for help and he would not dare to violate hun sen laws. He needs to let someone else lead. He too soft.

Anonymous said...

dialogue, negotiate and compromise because for the interest of the whole cambodia, people want to find solution to election issue. then wait for the next election and do better.

cnrp has to understand they can't win all, and the cpp has to understand to find solution.

i can understand the cpp's view when they say that the cnrp's call for UN intervention is like allowing foreign country to control an independent cambodia. if you can't trust your own gov't, who can you trust? if cnrp asks the UN to intervene on election issue, the UN should tell cnrp that they cannot interfere with cambodia internal affairs. that will push cnrp to wait until next election if they want to win. show your ability first, before you can win in election. people will wait and see for themselves who is more competent than who?

Anonymous said...

10:43 am If you can't take victory now, what make you think that this Hun Sen Gov/Thugs will allow CNRP the victory in 2018? Sometime we have to stop dreaming and wake-up to reality. I can understand your points but we are not dealing with an honor government. On one hand we have a sissy CNRP leader and on CPP we have a "Mad Dog", oh don't forget we have a retarded king.

Anonymous said...

10:43 AM,

Your talk only makes sense if the CPP did not steal votes! But they did, so your argument tantamounts to allowing the thief to get away with stolen object and you will attempt to catch him again next time, which again the thief will get away because you have no courage to confront the thief.

Anonymous said...

remember history, cambodia often asked youn and siem to intervene when they fight each other. in this new era, cambodia now ask the UN to intervene instead. i guess it shows old habit hard die? i think most khmer people want to steer away from asking anyone to intervene at the expense of cambodia. remember history? be wise and enlightened by learning about our history. otherwise, cnrp is not better or different from cpp. two wrongs don't make it right!

Anonymous said...

11:02am, actually, do better next election like you said to catch the thief. most thief, they know what they do is wrong and never to repeat in the same place again. i'm just saying find ways to beat the thief so they cannot steal again.

Anonymous said...

If you all want CHANGE you have to CHANGE Rainsy FIRST! Rainsy is too WEAK! Guarantee you guys Rainsy will NEVER EVER be able to kick Hun Sen out! CRNP needs to have a STRONG PUSHY and DETERMINATION leader(Sokha not one of them either)Otherwise KEEP Dreaming it's not Going to Happen!

Anonymous said...

11:07 AM If CPP is able to hold on now, there is no need for next election, people don't need to come out and vote, because CPP will be automatically the winner,

Anonymous said...

If you all want CHANGE you have to CHANGE Rainsy FIRST! Rainsy is too WEAK! Guarantee you guys Rainsy will NEVER EVER be able to kick Hun Sen out! CRNP needs to have a STRONG PUSHY and DETERMINATION leader(Sokha not one of them either)Otherwise KEEP Dreaming it's not Going to Happen!

Anonymous said...

Hun sen's regime will collapse immediately if the Royal Armed Forces join force with the people.People power alone won't budge HUN SEN at all.

Corpus Christi TX said...

I just don't understand why you have to negotiate with CPP or Hun Sen? If you don't know their roots or who they are working for let me remind you they are working for ah yourn so it is better off for you to negotiate with pourk ah yourn. Stop wasting your time and you should LISTEN TO KHMER PEOPLE they knew the FACT.

Anonymous said...

11:44 AM

Exactly! See how Marcos was falling in Philippine... do you think the PIC NIC style Moha Thmeung Thmat Strike that your weak leader Rainsy did will have any effect?

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. XSEN,

Your recommendation and opinion are not wrong, you can bring this attention to the World Community, United States of America, European Unions, Australia and finally, the United Nations. But what can those countries can help you???

Let me remind you all: During the 1993 National Election, there were over 20,000 UNTAC peace keeping troops in Cambodia. Hun Sen and his CPP gangs never fear UNTAC. Thus do we expect them to fear the International Criminal Court (ICC), few UN obversers or economic sanction imposes by International community? Besides, they have the backing of Youn Hanio!!!

There is only the creation of the check and balance of power system is the best formula for ending the current crisis.

Tx

Anonymous said...


We just want Ah Hun Sen to go !!The loser must go. Ehoug with this ASShole hun Sen.

Anonymous said...

But what can we do my frinds, as I mentioned above during 1993 Election. Hun Sen had definitely lost the election but finally he still won. What can we do and who can help us??? But our current situation is very hard and hard to oppose with them. My question is:

- How long it will take, if the people up rising?

- How many people are willing to sacrify their lives???

- Who will come to help and support us to kick him out? When they will come...?

Tx

Anonymous said...

Tx,

Do you really think that Hun Sen is naive enough to allow the opposition to hold key positions in the NA and in the end creating a check and balance to weaken his own power?

To give you anything more than he can afford, he might as well allow the independent committee to be formed!

As can be seen by past experiences Hun Sen won't give you meat, not even fish, but he can give you skin and bones to chew!


Anonymous said...

11:42 AM,

Hey, Ah Chhkae Yuon! Stop making excuse and blame on CNRP leaders. CNRP is still listen to Khmer peoples, it's peoples's that CNRP leaders have to follow, and Khmer peoples want your father, Ah Chhkae Yuon Hun Shit out, got it, DUMB-ASS?

Stop using old trick Ah Chhkae Yuon, it's not working anymore. Most Cambodian peoples want your father out, CNRP leaders in. Only DUMB-ASS like you still using old trick who love to accuse, abuse and manipulate just your father, Ah Chhkae Yuon Hun Shit. Good luck with your DUMB-ASS imagination!

Anonymous said...

CNRP needs to stop Pray for Change.
Why wasting time for that? Be a MAN Rainsy ! Protest on/off for months for what? For socializing?

Why CNRP is waiting for the rocky Buddha to fight for you?

Stop be too kind or gentle to Ah stupid King and Ah Chhker Shit. Open your eyes and copy from the Red & Yellow shirts.

Hoping Rainsy won't drunk with Hun Sen $$$$...If you do, you better watch out man.

Anonymous said...


On the contrary, to accept the CPP (68) CNRP (55), although not a great idea, but ONLY IF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET BY THE CPP AND AGREES:

1. To make His Excellency Sam Rainsy the Leader of the House of Parliament and His Excellency Kem Sokha the Vice Chairman of the House of Parliament;

2. To remove all current members of the National Election Committee and reform the Election Laws;

3. To replace all the Members of the Constitutional Council and be placed with the new four (4) members from CNRP and three (3) members from CPP;

4. To amend the Constitution pertaining to the Terms of Limitation of all government employees specifically the Prime Minster Position (Two Terms - Five Years Each Term) and can never be re-elected in any public offices); Both House and Senate members of representatives shall represent in the House of Parliament and the House of Senate of no more than (Two Terms – Two Years Each Term)and these members of the House and Senates can run for public offices at any given times, but through an electoral process.

XMEN,

Your above ideas sound rational, but not practical with this Vietnam puppet Hun Sen.

Once Hun Sen firmly held on to the power, he will bully his way to kick all CNRP's MPs around. Remember Ranaridht was the President of the National Assembly. Sam Rainsy''s fate will be the same. Consequently, the CNRP will start disintegrating.

Hun Sen will do again because he has never gotten punished for his horrible deeds that he committed in the past.

I am sticking with the winning formula: the CNRP must take concrete steps to MAKE the CPP concedes its defeat, starting with the inquiry about the election's irregularities, and go from there.

This is the time, maybe the only time, that the CNRP will win if it put up the fight with the CPP because the vast majority of Khmer people and the international community are backing the CNRP up.

Concerning the future election, 2018, if the CNRP won with the new NEC, the CPP will not transfer the power to the CNRP. We, as Khmer, should know well about Vietnam’s determination to swallow Cambodia. With this problem in mind, it is imperative that we solve the problem with the CPP and Vietnam right now while the CNRP is in a good position to win – take the necessary steps to claim the electoral victory. Don’t miss this once in a lifetime opportunity.

Bun Thoeun

Anonymous said...

Enough is enough for Hun Sen to go. So Sam Rainsy don't so soft, a chnage must be a chnage, time for Hun Sen to go if Sam Rainsy let Hun Sen go this time , Khmer people won't.

Be strong Mr. Sam Rainsy.

Know your enemy MR. Sam Rainsy.

Anonymous said...

We'll see:

"The Book Smart V.S The Street Smart"

Rainsy is straight forward while Hun Sen knows how to walk through Ho Chi Ming tunnel.

Rainsy absolutely has no clue about the jungle life, Hun Sen came from a poor boy, he sold his brain to Vietcong. Now he is a Strong Man.

How far you can go Mr. Strong Dick?

Anonymous said...

ក្នុងករណីបក្ស​ប្រជាជន ឈ្នះ ៦៨​កៅអី ចំណែក​បក្ស​សង្គ្រោះ​ជាតិ បាន ៥៥​កៅអី
តើបក្ស​សង្គ្រោះ​ជាតិអាចមានសង្ឈឹមបានដំណែងប្រធានរដ្ឋសភាឫទេ?ទោះបី ហ៊ុន សែនយល់ព្រមក៏ដោយ។តើ ហ៊ុន សែនជាម្ចាស់មតិសមាជិករដ្ឋសភា នៃគណបក្សប្រជាជនកម្ពុជា ឫទេ?។

តើ ហ៊ុន សែនអាចយល់ព្រមឫទេ?រដ្ឋសភាកាន់កាប់ដោយ​បក្ស​សង្គ្រោះ​ជាតិជាអ្នកតែងច្បាប់ឲ្យ រដ្ឋាភិបាលហ៊ុន សែនអនុវត្ត? ។

បើរដ្ឋាភិបាលហ៊ុន សែនពុំអនុវត្ត? គឺមានបញ្ហាជាប់គាំង​នយោបាយនៅកម្ពុជា។

ដូច្នេះកិច្ចចរចា ចង់បានដំណែងនេះ ឬ ដំណែងនោះ នៃបក្ស​សង្គ្រោះ​ជាតិ មុនការរក យុត្តិធម៌​នៃការបោះ​ឆ្នោត ឬ សើរើ​ពិនិត្យ​មើល​លទ្ធផល​បោះ​ឆ្នោត​ឡើង​វិញ គឺជាក្តី "ឈរ សុបិន្ត un rêve debout -standing dream "នៃបក្ស​សង្គ្រោះ​ជាតិ ។


ដេក សុបិន្ត គេយោគយល់។
តែ
ឈរ សុបិន្ត ធ្វើឲ្យគេអស់សំណើច។គឺជាមនុស្សចម្កួត។
on dort et on rêve c'est compréhensible
mais on est debout on rêve , ça fait rire. c'est un fou.

we sleep and dream is understandable
but dream you are standing on, it makes you laugh. this is crazy.

អមតះ

Anonymous said...


My analysis scenario

Sam rainsy the blackmailer vs Hun Sen the former soldier Khmer rouge

*The current stand-off between MM Sam Rainsy and Hun Sen would be: a
"HUGE FINANCIAL MATTER".
* I bet that everything will sort out in the near future, and Mr Sam Rainsy will take up position as the President of the National Assembly of Cambodia to legalise Hun Sen government. * Sooner or later, Mr Sam Rainsy will be stripped of his parliamentary immunity and will flee in self-imposed exile as he get used to it.

* Finally, he would have a luxurious retirement surrounded by young and beautiful girls.
It would be a happy ending for him.

Preah Bat Theurmeuk predictions.



Anonymous said...

My dog smarter then the KING..rainsy need..to listsen to the people an stand by them..not the stupid king..I feed my dog but I won.t feed that useless shit head..

Anonymous said...

ចំពោះខ្មែរទាំងអស់គ្នា សូមខ្មែរទាំងអស់ស្វាងឡើង..! ភ្ញាក់រលឹកឡើង..!
ឈប់រស់ក្រោមការបោកប្រាស់ ញុះញង់ធ្វើមហាបាតុកម្ម របស់ គណបក្សសង្គ្រោះជាតិ
ស្អីគេ ដែលមានសម រង្ស៊ី ជាមេដឹកនាំតទៅទៀតទៅ ពួកនេះ បានបោកប្រាស់អ្នកទាំងអស់គ្នាជាង២0ឆ្នាំមកហើយ។

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