26 Feb 2009By Leang Delux
Cambodge Soir Hebdo
Translated from Khmer by Luc Sâr
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Sam Rainsy contests the decision of the National Assembly permanent committee to lift his parliamentary immunity, and he plans to write to the king to ask for a pardon.
The NA permanent committee showed its fast zeal in deciding on Thursday 26 Feb to lift Sam Rainsy’s parliamentary immunity at the request of Hang Vong Ratana, the minister of Justice. The opposition leader now becomes a citizen just like anybody else because he was sentenced by the NEC to pay a 10 million riels fine ($2,500) for disparaging CPP leaders during the July 2008 general election.
CPP MP Chheang Vun, a member of the NA permanent committee and chairman of the foreign affairs committee, had confirmed this decision. “According to the constitution, during the NA vacancy period, the permanent committee can make this decision and then inform the MPs during the plenary session,” he told Cambodge Soir Hebdo. Nevertheless, Article 80 of the Constitution stipulates the need for an additional step: “Decision of the permanent committee must be submitted to the following plenary session for an adoption by a 2/3 majority of its members.”
The permanent committee plans to write to the justice minister to inform him about its decision to lift Sam Rainsy’s immunity.
On the other hand, Sam Rainsy is protesting: “I did not lose my immunity because the NA has yet to pronounce (its decision) in plenary session, the permanent committee has no right to take this decision.”
Sam Rainsy criticized the tactics: “I am asking for some time because I made an appeal to the Constitutional Council to study if the decision to sentence me abides by the Constitution.”
Sam Rainsy plans to get out of this imbroglio through a maneuver: “I will write to the king to ask for a pardon and I will send the 10 million riels to the Kantha Bopha hospital instead.”
In 2005, Sam Rainsy also lost his parliamentary immunity for defaming Norodom Ranariddh.
The NA permanent committee showed its fast zeal in deciding on Thursday 26 Feb to lift Sam Rainsy’s parliamentary immunity at the request of Hang Vong Ratana, the minister of Justice. The opposition leader now becomes a citizen just like anybody else because he was sentenced by the NEC to pay a 10 million riels fine ($2,500) for disparaging CPP leaders during the July 2008 general election.
CPP MP Chheang Vun, a member of the NA permanent committee and chairman of the foreign affairs committee, had confirmed this decision. “According to the constitution, during the NA vacancy period, the permanent committee can make this decision and then inform the MPs during the plenary session,” he told Cambodge Soir Hebdo. Nevertheless, Article 80 of the Constitution stipulates the need for an additional step: “Decision of the permanent committee must be submitted to the following plenary session for an adoption by a 2/3 majority of its members.”
The permanent committee plans to write to the justice minister to inform him about its decision to lift Sam Rainsy’s immunity.
On the other hand, Sam Rainsy is protesting: “I did not lose my immunity because the NA has yet to pronounce (its decision) in plenary session, the permanent committee has no right to take this decision.”
Sam Rainsy criticized the tactics: “I am asking for some time because I made an appeal to the Constitutional Council to study if the decision to sentence me abides by the Constitution.”
Sam Rainsy plans to get out of this imbroglio through a maneuver: “I will write to the king to ask for a pardon and I will send the 10 million riels to the Kantha Bopha hospital instead.”
In 2005, Sam Rainsy also lost his parliamentary immunity for defaming Norodom Ranariddh.
65 comments:
Under the rule of dictatorship, HUN SEN had ordered this to be happened.
CPP is heading to a sole control of Cambodia.
Mynamar the second in Southeast Asia.
HUN SEN had orchestrated this.
Khmer/Thai
Good, excessive impunity is unhealthy for Cambodia.
Thanks to PM Hun Sen!
fuck , Ah youn puppet HUN SEN
If you voted for CPP (Cambodian People's Party):
Also known as:
Communist People's Party
Khmer Rouge People's Party
Khmer Krorhorm People's Party
You're support the killing of 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples.
You're support the killing of innocent men, women and children in Cambodia on March 30, 1997.
You're support murder of Piseth Pilika.
You're support assassination of journalists in Cambodia.
You're support political assassination and killing.
You're support attemted assassination and murder of leader of the free trade union in Cambodia.
You're support corruption in Cambodia.
You're support Hun Sen Regime burn poor people's house down to the ground and leave them homeless.
These are the Trade Mark of Hun Sen Regime.
Hun Sen, Chea Sim and Heng Samrin are Khmer Rouge commanders.
When is the ECCC going to bring these three criminals to U.N. Khmer Rouge Trail?
Khmer Rouge Regime is a genocide organization.
Hun Sen Regime is a terrorist organization.
Hun Sen Bodyguards is a terrorist organization.
Hun Sen Death Squad is a terrorist organization.
Cambodian People's Party is a terrorist organization.
I have declare the current Cambodian government which is lead by the Cambodian People's Party as a terrorist organization.
Whoever associate with the current Cambodian government are associate with a terrorist organization.
Hun Sen's government (Cambodian People's Party) invented human right abuses, intimidation, death threats, assassination, murder, killing, eviction, land grabbing, injustice and corruptions in Cambodia.
These are some of Hun Sen Regime's Trade Mark.
Under Hun Sen Regime, no criminals that has been committed murder and all other crimes within Hun Sen's government ever been brought to Hun Sen Regime's court.
No for long, one by one we'll bring all of pouk Ah Killer Scam Rainxy and his potato diggers to justice no matter what it takes.
Nothing will last forever, Hun Sen and his cronies soon will realize that is the law of nature. "What's goes up will come down" and when it does, it will hit him hard. The wrong that Hun Sen and the CPP doing to the Khmer people, they are doing to themself. They will have to sew of what they reap it just a matter of time. Pay back time is a bitch, just wait and see.
12:55AM! Viet will fuck your mother, your sister in the ass! Ah viet-leech mother fucker!
12:55AM,
Viet will fuck your mother and viet will fuck your sister and fuck your dog, eat your dog too...hahaha! Ah Pleu youn slave!!
Dream on, fool (1:05), your stupid theory is not going to work. We'll go up, but never come down after we reached space.
12:55 Am, you are a true dumb blind individual. Stop wasting your time on line, and go to school to get some education because you really needed it.
Hahaha, LOL, the anti-royalist Scam Rainxy plans to ask the King for a pardon, hahaha, LOL, hahahaha ...
He should be a comedian, hahaha ...
I wonder what would the King's new advisor (Ranarith) would say about a pardon for Sam Rainsy?
Sam Rainsy is a fucking head !
When you are a leader, and you treat others leaders like Monkeys, I think this punition of 10 000 000 riels is good !
At least, a good lesson for everyone !
And when Sen Kwack use bad language to others leaders, NEC should punish him too ????
Come on, Rainsy pay the fines !!!
You have enough monies from the foreign cambodian's donors !
the bottom line is no one should be above the law at all. even the monarchy is the keeper of the law and making sure everything is lawful. so what make sam rainsy thinks he's special in this regards, especially if he had violated the law! go figure!
Da ma ah Hhun Xxen!!!!!!!! ma PhD f u n ki ng Hanoi!
I respect the man more and more for standing up to crooks, bully and traitor of the nation of khmer.
May all those practice evil will be pay with evil 10 folds!
Oh stop twisting everything upside down, Ah Jkout (2:43). He aint standing up to shit. He's asking for merci from those he abused, in particular Ranarith.
This kind of politic has proved to the world that Cambodia is too premature to engage with multi-party system. All leaders of the CPP are still ignorance of the system and cannot accepte the system of anti-government decision where they have ran since 1979-1993. I believe that all CPP members should change their present old members who are too old to learn. In multi-parties system, the national assembly should respect the right of the opposition and the Neutral Role of National committee for the election. All rules and regulations of the election shouldn't set up the national assebly and a selected committee in which each party has their equal members to input to ideas and then put forward for the National assembly to approve. During each election, if the NEC has failed to their duty, they have also be sacked. I am lucky that I have not involved with these kind of people. They are worst than animal. Areak Prey
Nope, Cambodia is just a dot on the planet, and we don't need no hundred parties to care for it. One is enough. Ah Jkout (3:06) is trying to abuse our taxpayers' money. Don't listen to him.
sam rainsy and his tiny pocket of people and company never actually lived through the KR era in cambodia, so what does he know about pain and suffering? plus, what does he know about survival and hardship everyone went through in cambodia during that time period! that's why he and his clique is so out of touch with the real cambodia. god bless cambodia.
Some fuck of you guys in this forum.Somdeach Hun Sen never fuck with khmer people just fuck like you guys or your opposition party don't know shit! If you guy were a presidend of Cambodia it will be back to the pol pot regime again,because you guy always make trouble with situation government everyday.So you guy name will done in the future.You are lucky Somdeach Hun Sen let you stay in Cambodia country for while if he(Somdeach Hun Sen)don't kindnes to all of you will not allow to stay in Cambodia.You are fucking foriegn people not Cambodian people.Do you want the same fucking Global Withness no permit to stay in Cambodia? You fucking bitch asshole.I wish all of you guys will fucking done in Cambodia in the future.
Well said, 3:25!
Long Live PM Hun Sen!
Died Pouk Ah Evil Scam Rainxy!
Ah Scam Rainxy is nothing more than a fag who pretend to be a bully, hahaha, LOL, the joke is on him, hahaha, LOL.
It's just a game playing by the blind mad dog, and it's nonesense to talk about immunity whatsoever. Just look back to a period after the 1997 coup d'état. How many of them lost that shit. It means no shit. All of them come back walking as usual.
. . . Hun Sen does not live forever. Maybe by the end of this year or next year he'll be dead and gone to reign in hell for millions of years.
Ah Chamkuot suopouch 3:16AM,
You must understand that Cambodia is belonging to every single Cambodian. It doesn't belongs only to CPP. Cambodians people have fought each other to nearly to extinct 1991. Until UN opened up for all Cambodian to reconcilliale for peace by UN assistance. From 1993, Cambodia should promote multi-parties system and open up for democracy. Without these opportunities, Cambodia would be a place for all wild animals such as you, your families and all CPP.
Pol Pot was driven out from Cambodia in 1979 by Vietcong general Be Binh and was not by CPP at all. I was one of the victims of the Khmer Rouge and I haven't seen any CPP shit there at all. All army were all from Vietnam soldiers. THe suppliers of foods to that group was one of my friends. Therefore I knew these stories very well. People like should go to hell for destroying your won country and your countrymen. Cambodia should be open to every single Cambodia. Areak Prey
They are still communists; what do you expect? One man ruins Cambodia with a bunch of opportunist parasites think that is the right way to run a country...
Being Khmer, I feel very pity for those of you that support Hun Sen. It is so sad that you actually live like a frog in a pond. In this life time you have been oppressed and brain wash by the Communist regime. Only if you have a chance to see the world out side of your pond and realize that there are much more out there. Please open your eyes to see other countries in world and ask yourself, why are we still among the poorest country? Why can you not see that the current government is soley depend of foreign donations? It has been 30 years now with the CPP in power and very little has changed. Wake up people and think a little harder..please.
Democracy A La UNTAC??????
Do we need to go back to the jungle again, to get UN attention???????
What a justice of KRC? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$?
The CPP leaders have become Gods to dirt poor Cambodian people and no Cambodian people can criticize them!
May I remind dirt poor Cambodian people again that the CPP leaders may become their God but the CPP leaders still a slave to the Vietcong!
In the world of the Vietcong theory and logic, it is possible that the Vietcong slaves can become God of Cambodian people only if Cambodian people choose to worship and believe in them!
4.21 AM, no, those frogs have foundtheir way to the US on food stamps for a few years now. they eat and pooh on welfare but like to see their fewllo frogs at home continue in the hole.
frogs don't have big brain, so don't expect too much. slek chher chrous min chhnghay pi kul.
To 5:10AM
What about you? Have you found your way to anywhere yet? ahahah
You sure know how American system works such food stamps and welfare!
It is a fact that you were once part of the American system but then you got deported and now you have resentment! ahahahahah
Listen up fool! All immigrant especially the one from Southeast Asian country have only a shirt on their back and to get to America is real privilege because they have earned through the hardship of American involvement in Southeast Asia! The fucken war, the bombing, the genocide, the economic embargo,...
There is no such thing as free lunch in this world! So fuck off mother fucker!
It's a pay to play show. Can't believe you guys bite each other for this.
Mr. Rainsy was in exile and then came back because of Mr. Sen. So what's new this time? Put Mr. Rainsy in jail?
Let him put all oppositions in the slammers like in VN. But then it will look too Vietnamese....All work and no fun.
Big Yawn!!!
Immunity, Shmimmunity!
Dear Mr. Blinded master and crazy Krobey!!!
You should do your job better than today, you all are not street kids but your behavior is worse than the drug-addicted monkeys at Pnhom Doun Penh. You do whatever the strong man tells you to do. You never show us that you have done your jobs professionally, admirably!!! You know that, right??
One day, you all will not have even a piece of land to hide your naked-bodies, remember!!!
Land-ghost!!
5:49 AM, I agree with you my Kampuchea brother, why are those people is so ungreatful, without our troops saving you in 1979 you would not be able to go to America. So what if come to live in your country, nothing is for free in this world.
Nguyen
5.49 am, at least i am better tah you fuckin pea brain. i see clear than you, that all khmer people in cambodia are being opressed and harassed by your yuon dogs.
i am writing from a cafe shop in phnom penh, where iu can see it daily.
so fuck your mother cunt
6.41 am fuck you fake yuon. go eat shit and die.
I hope that if CPP think they have 2/3 majority and they can do everything they like, they should remove all SRP members and all HRP member so that they don't have any opposition voice in the Parliament.
But that decision is not simple. As I have said before, only National General election can terminate Sam Rainsy immunity. He hasn't committed any crime( Stealing or killing ) at all. THe killers and the stealers should have been removed by the court. Areak Prey
You don't have to remove the opposition physically, Ah Pleu (8:28), to do what you want with over 90 seats. You vote for whatever you want, and you act, and that is all you have to do.
YEP, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE 90 SEATS, KILL THEM WITH GUNS, do LIKE 1993 OR LAMPA ALL TEH AY TO THE YUONS.
RULE OF JUNGLE RULES IN THE LAWLESS LAND.
Your monky sperm(8:50AM), removing immunity of a member of parliament is no different of removing him from member of parliament too. Have you hear animal Chhun Voan has said that Sam Ransy is now a normal citizen? I am a pro-Sam rainsy at all. I can live with my own glory and happiness without any need anyone, but the reasons I have involved in this forum is to defense Cambodia from invasion of all Derachharn and antheapeal like yourself. If your derachharn and your antheal can have your way in Cambodia again, Cambodia will be another killing field because you are all cold blood killers. Areak Prey
Regarding HE Sam Rainsy's immunity, why so much a hurry to lift it during the Parliament's recess? His crime is not very serious and he endangers no one.
Lifting parliamentary immunity in a democracy is a very serious matter, and there are alternatives to it to force an MP to pay a fine.
With a little bit of imagination, the court could and should issue an order ordering him to pay the fine and another order ordering the National Assembly to deduct the sum from his remuneration. With that order, the the National Assembly's finance officer could deduct that sum and transfer it to the NEC's bank account.
HE Sam Rainsy could go to court to contest this deduction.
Furthermore, politicians should stop resorting to the royal pardon. If they believe in the rule of law, they should not think they have any more privileges than their fellow countrymen. All are equal before the law and are equally protected by it. There are others who have the smae troubles with the law as them. Why can't they have the same royal pardon?
LAO Mong Hay, Hong Kong
Hun Sen can also strip king Sihamony down to an ordinary Khmer citizen, anytime if he wants to. There is no justice in Cambodia. Cambodian courts control by Hanoi.
Oh stop contradicting yourself, dr Lao. When a person has an immunity it means that that is immune to all Cambodia laws.
Just look at the US Ambassador, for instant, do you really think that the court can confiscate his car if he failed to pay a traffic ticket? No way, not until they removed his immunity first.
Rule of law is rule of law, dr Lao, stop twisting it upside down, will ya?
correction:
Oh stop contradicting yourself, dr Lao. When a person has an immunity it means that that person is immune to all Cambodia laws.
Just look at the US Ambassador, for instant, do you really think that the court can confiscate his car if he failed to pay a traffic ticket? No way, not until they removed his immunity first.
Rule of law is rule of law, dr Lao, stop twisting it upside down, will ya?
If anyone wants to know that 6:41AM is a real Yuon or not, just let him pronounce the word SCHOOL. Most of the adult Yuons whom I worked with in the US, they pronounce SCHOOL as SCHOON!
Who care how he pronounce School. Khmer Leu, Khmer Kandal, and Khmer Krom all pronounce it differently.
What matter here is he has risked his life to save Khmer from Pouk Ah Scam Rainxy; and therefore, we are all at debt to him.
Lok Areak Prey is right that Cambodia is now invaded by Chon Derachharn and Chon Anthepeal. Ohnha ploandey reash. Pritsaphea Oath chesh niyeay khmer dauchea, Ly Yong Phat, Kung Triv, Kok An and Lao Minh Kinh ( Phdey Year Phu ). Chor haroay every where. Advisor from Drugs lord like OUm Chhay etc... Oh Khmer, you are alway invaded by these tmil. Australia
Who care? It's still a lot better than being invaded by westerners.
10.19 am, ah cho mrai, who rsiked hislife to save khmer , fukin iodiot ? hun xen ? oh, my god, u are do fuckin dumb, is your whole family dumb like you ?
A khmer rouge only know how to kill, not save life. get a life, fuck ass !
A FRIENDLY COMMEMT---I always like to read news and discussion about Cambodia and the khmer people online. Sometimes I feel happy with good news and sad about bad news. I believe that most of you may feel the same as I do. Sometimes this sadness can turn to be frustration and anger because of how we feel about things and the way we react to them accordingly.
Sometimes I feel worse not about the issue itself but the derogatory language and the profanity in the discusions, comments and insults. I understand that we all have felling and we all have good heart and compassion because we seem to care about our Khmer people including ourselves. However, I feel regretful that we (some of us)can't respect each other differences. In the context of our Khmer history, there is a myth that we Cambodians don't get along and the Angkor Empire had collaped as a result. Take a look at the comtemporary Cambodia now. I guess we can tell that the myth has clearly become a reality. And also take a look at some of the comments on this blog. All of these reflect our characters. We all love (all)Khmers. There is no question about that. So please voice our opinion in a constructive and respectful way. There is no gain if we keep fighting and hating each other. I know that some of you care so much about your politicians, but don't lose your conscience of who you are. Don't let ourselves be obessed by those leaders' influences and forget about our Kmher nation.
Let me give some suggestions: opinion vs. fact
Opinion is no rigth or wrong and fact is true. So from what I see here on the blog is opinions. We can agree to disagree, but we cannot express our hatred at something that is different from what one believes.
Some statements that would help to express our opinion:
I think ....
I disagree with ...
I believe that ....
I would suggest that ....
In my opinion, ....
I feel...
I understand that ....
I don't intend to ....
I'm sorry to say ..
I'm not trying to educate anybody. Please forgive me, if this is not helpful to you.
Sometimes I feel ashamed of myself as a Khmer person (former country boy) not because of my race, but of what has happened to us Khmer until now --violence, hatred, and so on. Foreigners may laugh at us or YOUN may be happy because we KHMER don't get along...or YOUN may push a botton so KHMER can kill each other.
Please respect our differences with compassion. We cannot afford to fight one another anymore.
Respectfully,
Elementary School Teacher
Who are you trying to kid, you stupid fake (11:47). Are you blind or something? Pouk Ah Scam Rainxy relentlessly and senselessly trying to wipe out our Khmer culture, and you want us to have respect for them, what type of crap is that?
Puok ah chhkae yuon, chuit dol pel dael kbal ahaeng chrus pi sma hoey ah sva peak kandal monus peak kandal.
Dear 11:47Am,
I fully support your suggestion of respecting to each other and to digest other people opinion. My opinion in this forum is also to help our Cambodian people to understand the value of democracy and the value of our bilateral respect. But as you have seen in this forum, there are some guys who are not prepare to read and to digest other opinion but have always insult others. Example, they have even insult Mr Sam Rainsy who is also an elected member of Cambodian parliament. He is also a leader of a party just as the same like Hun sen. I don't care really who is the leader of Cambodian Government. What I care is to see Cambodian can get out from poverty and from suffering I am not a propanda of any political party at all. I am also not a personal ennemy of Hun Sen. If Hun Sen did the right thing, I would support him too. We all like to see Cambodia to develop as fast as other Nation too. What we do not to see robbery, drugs, gambling, prostitution, begger etc.. and etc.. Areak Prey
I like to read your response and
I agree with you 12:42 PM.
Thanks.
In Cambodia, the laws comes from Hun Sen's mouth. What Hun Sen said is the laws. Rainsy didn't say he will not pay the fine, he said he will pay when he exhausted all avenue of appeal. Now he is appealing to the High Court. Why can't Hun Sen wait. Anyway, this has nothing to do with Hun Sen and the CPP. It is about Rainsy vs. NEC only. What Hun Sen did by lifting Rainsy's immunity is interferences with the judiciary. This we called the laws of the jungle.
AH CHOY MARAY AH HUN SEN ,AH TROU KROURP AH HENG SOM RING,AH ROUN TASS BANH AH CHIA SIM .AH LAN BOK AH KHIEU KANNARITH FUCK ALL AH CHOY MA RAY AH CPP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Shut the fuck up, Ah Potato digger (12:42). There is no way we will ever worship Gorge Washington or Napoleon with you. Stay the fuck out of Indochina, motherfucker!
The taxpayers demand that Ah Scam Rainxy paid for all his bill that included late fee, attorney fee, court fee, ect. ... . We don't want to pay for his stupidity. Lock him up until he paid all of his bills.
Sam Rainsy has paid the fine on 26th Feb, yesterday. The lifting of his parliamentary immunity is unconstitutional. The parliament should wait until he has exhausted all avenues of appeal. Currently he is appealing to the High Court.
Bullshit, this ain't no corrupted ECCC international standard shit. We don't wait forever to get something done. You got that, Ah Pleu, 3:45?
Hahaha, LOL, hahaha, Ah motherfucker (3:45) wants us to wait 30 years to lift Ah Scam Rainxy's immunity, hahaha, LOL,... . He think we should followed the corrupted ECCC role model, hahaha, LOL, hahaha ....
No can do, Bozzo. Better luck, next time!
Pourk Ah Pret CPP..CPP & its supporters..will die like Ah Youn Ho Long dy....Soon..just wait and see.
Damn, if we wait any longer, we'll died of natural cause, you idiot (9:35).
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