"We cannot try ghosts," Theary Seng said. "As a victim, I desire truth and justice from the defendant which is best obtained when he or she is coherent and alert." (Photo: DAP-news)
Top surviving Khmer Rouge leaders go on trial
Jun 27, 2011
By SOPHENG CHEANG
Associated Press
The top four surviving members of the Khmer Rouge regime blamed for the deaths of an estimated 1.7 million Cambodians in the 1970s appeared for a second day Tuesday before a U.N.-backed tribunal aimed at finally achieving justice.
Chief Judge Nil Nonn said the hearing would address objections from former Foreign Minister Ieng Sary's lawyers that the 85-year-old cannot be tried because he received a royal pardon in 1996 when he led a mass defection to the government.
With the aging leaders all in their late 70s or early 80s and with Khmer Rouge overlord Pol Pot long dead, the trial before the U.N.-backed panel represents the last, best chance for Cambodia to bring accountability to the Khmer Rouge leadership blamed for the deaths.
All four defendants say they are innocent.
"This is, at this time, the most important trial in the world," Stephen Rapp, U.S. envoy on war crimes issues, said Monday. "It's a message to others who might commit similar crimes that there will be consequences. That it may not happen tomorrow or the next day. But eventually, you'll be in the dock as well."
During their 1975-79 rule, the Khmer Rouge tried to implement a communist utopia, but ended up killing as many as one-quarter of their countrymen through executions, medical neglect, overwork and starvation.
In addition to Ieng Sary, the others on trial are Nuon Chea, 84, who was Pol Pot's No. 2 and the group's chief ideologist; Khieu Samphan, 79, the former head of state; and Ieng Thirith, 79, who served as minister for social affairs.
Nil Nonn opened the trial Monday with procedural matters, including reading out the charges against the four, which include crimes against humanity, war crimes, genocide, religious persecution, homicide and torture.
Cambodian victims' advocates have decried how long it has taken to launch the trial, saying the proceedings are needed to shed light on a dark period and that time is running out for drawing meaningful testimony from the defendants.
Although all four defendants were present for the start of the trial Monday, three were allowed to exercise the right to excuse themselves for reason of poor health, leaving only Khieu Samphan in the courtroom. On Tuesday, Nuon Chea left the courtroom again.
Theary Seng, a human rights advocate representing some victims who are allowed a role in the proceedings, said it was fair to excuse the defendants because of their infirmity, but that it would be a shame not to hear their statements.
"We cannot try ghosts," Theary Seng said. "As a victim, I desire truth and justice from the defendant which is best obtained when he or she is coherent and alert."
Testimony and presentation of evidence is expected to begin in August or September, 32 years after the Khmer Rouge were ousted from power in 1979 with the help of a Vietnamese invasion.
For more than a decade afterward, they waged a bloody insurgency against the Phnom Penh government. Pol Pot escaped justice with his death in 1998, then a prisoner of his own comrades as his once-mighty guerrilla movement was collapsing.
Michiel Pestman, representing Nuon Chea, said a full accounting of the historical context of the Khmer Rouge should include a probe of the massive wartime U.S. bombing of Cambodia and Vietnam's role.
The tribunal started operations in 2006. Its first defendant was Kaing Guek Eav, also known as Duch, commandant of Tuol Sleng prison, where only a handful of prisoners survived. Up to 16,000 people were tortured under Duch's command and later taken away to be killed.
Duch, now 68, was sentenced to 35 years in prison for war crimes and crimes against humanity. His sentence was reduced to 19 years because of time previously served and other technicalities, bringing angry criticism from victims who called the punishment too lenient. Cambodia has no death penalty.
(This version CORRECTS spelling of human rights advocate's name in paragraph 11 to Seng instead of Sang, lawyer's name in paragraph 15 to Michiel instead of Michel)
12 comments:
Miss Theary Seng love to play games, like Mrs (Pricess) Diana. This games is too dangerous. Only hope, one day she will not pay for her behavior.
That is the character of Khmer Rouge regime, Hun Xen will do the same.
I have said many time , and many months before full hearing of Case 002 on this KI-Media that :
This ECCC or Khmer Rouge Trial will face a lot of obstacles from CPP and end up with dissappointment of majority of Cambodians.
Whay?
Because CPP formed by yuon Hanoi officially in 1951 ( unofficially before 1951 )so yuon Hanoi have strong influent over this ECCC political show.
Fucken all khmer leaders don't want to take responsible for their own action. Fucke all khmer leaders are no role model for young khmer generation.
Fucken all khmer leaders when they kill other people fine but when come to take responsible, they fucken nothing but moron.
Shame to all khmer leaders including Shihanuk the ex king, CPP Hun Sen, Dr Prince of law Ranaridth...Fuck you all for your leadership skill.
នាងមួយនេះបើនៅជុំនាន់ពលពតប្រហែលមាន
មនុស្សស្លាប់ជាច្រើនដោយសារស្នាដៃរបស់នាងនេះ
ពីនាងនេះមិនដែលគិតអំពីសុខសន្តិភាពម្តងណាទេ
មានតែការឈ្នានិះរវាងខ្មែរនឹងខ្មែរ។ពីព្រោះខ្ញុំបានឃើ
ញមនុស្សស្រីរបៀបនេះនៅជុំនាន់ពលពតបានសម្លាប់
មនុស្សជាច្រើនដោយពុំបានគិតថាអ្នកនោះជាអ្វីឡើយ។
Dear Lady Theary Seng,
Not only your family was lost in the KR regime. I have read your history caused by KR but my histoty of my families was the same like your and the other borthers and sisters. In name of the people after 17 April 1975 I can describe you in the following:
My father was the Colonel of infantry under Gen. Lon Nol (1970-75), more than 3500 Soldiers under his command. Whereas the KR came he was killed on the spot, I saw this in my eyes. In 1976 my mother and one brother and sister were also killed. My uncle (red Bank deputy director) with hiw 5 children were also killed. In 1993, during UN election 3 of my relatives were also killed by CPP henchmen. So, do you think I have not been paining??
What are the Khmer Rouge:
1) Khmer Rouge under Vietnam ( Hun Sen, Sihanouk,.....)
2) Khmer Rouge under China (Pol Pot, Noug Chhea,....)
So, 1) and 2) have the same blood in their hands, that is no doudt. That is why CPP under Hun Sen have always protected them as they can. We, the people after 17 April 1975 are the real loser from this war and the real winner of this war is Khmer Rouge under Vietnam, not under China. But the China and Vietnam have the same communist ideology what we can do ??? As for me, this court is only the theater for show. That is my details argument.
Theary Seng again?..Oh my god...How many cases you want? Do you think you are the only one who lost the family and want justice? Do you want how many $$$$ to spend on this shit court?
And do you know what we are struggling now? MAKING A LIVING!!!!!!...DON'T CREATE CHAOS AND GET A JOB!!!!!!
go theary, play in that kangaroo court with those criminals, you will get your part of bloody cake
As why we Khmer get kill and suffer that much? Remember that, it is because the yuons want to exterminate all Khmer to robe their land and resources as yuons did in Laos or Champa. That's the source of all those crimes and suffering ....
The yuons must hold responsible for all the crimes committed against Khmer people because khmer rouge are the creators and masters of khmer rouge. True history must restore and reveal at least, for the memory of those who are victims of yuon crime against humanity, yuon expansionist and genocidal policy -BA
8:58 pm,
I agreed with you, but the school system in Cambodia does not teach much about Khmer history to the Khmer's youth -- than how are you expect them to learn. Hun's policy for education is to build the classrooms, but not train the teachers to teach in that classroom.
So 8:58 pm -- is there any solution to this, if the govt. don't event put any budget for the education? They only sent their children to study abroad, but when their children go back to Cambodia, they going to lead a bunch of people that like a cow -- just take order!! Is Khmer people will become minority on their on land?? Will her civilzation be disappear from the region??
To those who strongly opposed with Theaary Seng. If you could not help, please stay out off the game. Theary would does this once and for all.
The bible of those dears in the head light is up in China and Vietnam. Please get rid of the mf communist regime and its leaders.
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