Great heroic King Norodom Sihanouk will become a confrontation between Cambodia and the United Nations in the trial process for former Khmer Rouge [KR] leaders
13 September 2007
Rasmei Kampuchea
Translated from Khmer and posted online
13 September 2007
Rasmei Kampuchea
Translated from Khmer and posted online
"Great heroic King Norodom Sihanouk will become a confrontation between Cambodia and the United Nations in the trial process for former Khmer Rouge [KR] leaders," said an unattributed report from the 13 September edition of the pro-government Cambodian newspaper Phnom Penh Reaksmei Kampuchea posted on the Everyday.com.kh portal.
The report added that to the United Nations, no one could be above the law, and Peter Foster, the UN spokesman of the Khmer Rouge Tribunal [KRT], recently said, "It was up to the KRT judges and prosecutors to decide who should be indicted and who should be summoned as witness."
The report also said that in light of Peter Foster's remarks, the "former king could be invited to the KRT as witness, because he used to be the head of state of the Democratic Kampuchea [DK] regime, before deciding to resign from that position in 1976. Despite the reaction from the king father [Norodom Sihanouk] and from other Cambodian leaders, the United Nations was still adamant that the indictment or summons of witnesses was up to the KRT judges."
The report further said that a letter dated 6 September 2007 sent to Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Royal Palace, Mrs. Michelle Lee, deputy head of the KRT administration office, "continued to maintain that only the tribunal judges were competent to decide who should be the witnesses."
The report added that although the letter said "Peter Foster did not intend to affect the reputation of the great heroic king, Mrs. Michelle Lee did not guarantee that the king father would be neither indicted nor summoned to appear in the KRT."
The report said that Lao Mong Hay, former president of the Cambodian Institute for Democracy and a jurist currently in Hong Kong, wrote a controversial article entitled "No Immunity for Sihanouk." In the article he said, "A lot of Cambodian people still believe that Samdech Sihanouk was the instrument for the KR Victory. Therefore, he should be responsible for the suffering of the Cambodian people in the KR regime."
"Therefore," Lao Mong Hay added, "recently the KRT should be neither intimidated nor threatened by the Cambodian Government. This tribunal should preserve its independence. It should persistently withstand the immunity of Samdech Sihanouk and summon him to appear in the law court whenever the truth, justice and/or human rights require it to do so."
The report also said that Lao Mong Hay used strong words saying, "Samdech Sihanouk's immunity from the trial is illegal, does not conform to the Constitution, and cannot be protected. The use of immunity by Samdech Sihanouk himself or with the support from the government to shun the tribunal will only reinforce/strengthen the belief that he was part of the responsibilities for the suffering of the Cambodian people under the KR regime."
Lao Mong Hay added, "It is an obstruction of justice and destruction of the rights of the Cambodian people, who have already endured enough suffering. It will also prevent Cambodia from settling its past story through the court of justice."
"Nonetheless," the report added, "Cambodian leaders are resolutely against any efforts or intentions to bring the king father to the KRT. Political parties, including the Cambodian People's Party, the FUNCINPEC [National United Front for an Independent, Neutral, Peaceful, and Cooperative Cambodia] Party, the Norodom Ranariddh Party, and some other parties as well as the Senate, the National Assembly, and the Royal Government led by with Prime Minister Samdech Hun Sen, too, condemn the idea of wanting to have the ex-king, who is sacred to the Cambodian people, tried at the KRT."
To Cambodia, the report added, the trial of the king father was to "set all the Cambodian people's heart on roaring fire." Prime Minister Hun Sen said, "We cannot remain with our hands folded. We must destroy such an intention."
Moreover, recently Khieu Kanhnharit, information minister and government spokesman, too, warned, "Cambodia would terminate the KRT if they still nurtured the intention of bringing the king father to the KRT," the report pointed out.
As for the king father, the report said, he, too, "refused to appear in the KRT as witness." He "indirectly invited Peter Foster and other UN officials to a meeting with him in the Royal Palace scheduled for 8 September to discuss the questions regarding the KR and himself."
However, the report added, UN officials and judges "did not to and see the ex-king as scheduled, partly because the letter of invitation had not been sent to the KRT officially."
To this point, the report further said, there was "fear about a deadlock in the KRT. What would happen if the UN judges still had the intent to invite the king father to the KRT and Cambodia resolutely objected to it?"
"Will the United Nations be still imbued with the idea of inviting the king father to the law court despite Cambodia's objection? The great heroic king will become a test for the cooperation between Cambodia and the United Nations," the report concluded.
The report added that to the United Nations, no one could be above the law, and Peter Foster, the UN spokesman of the Khmer Rouge Tribunal [KRT], recently said, "It was up to the KRT judges and prosecutors to decide who should be indicted and who should be summoned as witness."
The report also said that in light of Peter Foster's remarks, the "former king could be invited to the KRT as witness, because he used to be the head of state of the Democratic Kampuchea [DK] regime, before deciding to resign from that position in 1976. Despite the reaction from the king father [Norodom Sihanouk] and from other Cambodian leaders, the United Nations was still adamant that the indictment or summons of witnesses was up to the KRT judges."
The report further said that a letter dated 6 September 2007 sent to Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Royal Palace, Mrs. Michelle Lee, deputy head of the KRT administration office, "continued to maintain that only the tribunal judges were competent to decide who should be the witnesses."
The report added that although the letter said "Peter Foster did not intend to affect the reputation of the great heroic king, Mrs. Michelle Lee did not guarantee that the king father would be neither indicted nor summoned to appear in the KRT."
The report said that Lao Mong Hay, former president of the Cambodian Institute for Democracy and a jurist currently in Hong Kong, wrote a controversial article entitled "No Immunity for Sihanouk." In the article he said, "A lot of Cambodian people still believe that Samdech Sihanouk was the instrument for the KR Victory. Therefore, he should be responsible for the suffering of the Cambodian people in the KR regime."
"Therefore," Lao Mong Hay added, "recently the KRT should be neither intimidated nor threatened by the Cambodian Government. This tribunal should preserve its independence. It should persistently withstand the immunity of Samdech Sihanouk and summon him to appear in the law court whenever the truth, justice and/or human rights require it to do so."
The report also said that Lao Mong Hay used strong words saying, "Samdech Sihanouk's immunity from the trial is illegal, does not conform to the Constitution, and cannot be protected. The use of immunity by Samdech Sihanouk himself or with the support from the government to shun the tribunal will only reinforce/strengthen the belief that he was part of the responsibilities for the suffering of the Cambodian people under the KR regime."
Lao Mong Hay added, "It is an obstruction of justice and destruction of the rights of the Cambodian people, who have already endured enough suffering. It will also prevent Cambodia from settling its past story through the court of justice."
"Nonetheless," the report added, "Cambodian leaders are resolutely against any efforts or intentions to bring the king father to the KRT. Political parties, including the Cambodian People's Party, the FUNCINPEC [National United Front for an Independent, Neutral, Peaceful, and Cooperative Cambodia] Party, the Norodom Ranariddh Party, and some other parties as well as the Senate, the National Assembly, and the Royal Government led by with Prime Minister Samdech Hun Sen, too, condemn the idea of wanting to have the ex-king, who is sacred to the Cambodian people, tried at the KRT."
To Cambodia, the report added, the trial of the king father was to "set all the Cambodian people's heart on roaring fire." Prime Minister Hun Sen said, "We cannot remain with our hands folded. We must destroy such an intention."
Moreover, recently Khieu Kanhnharit, information minister and government spokesman, too, warned, "Cambodia would terminate the KRT if they still nurtured the intention of bringing the king father to the KRT," the report pointed out.
As for the king father, the report said, he, too, "refused to appear in the KRT as witness." He "indirectly invited Peter Foster and other UN officials to a meeting with him in the Royal Palace scheduled for 8 September to discuss the questions regarding the KR and himself."
However, the report added, UN officials and judges "did not to and see the ex-king as scheduled, partly because the letter of invitation had not been sent to the KRT officially."
To this point, the report further said, there was "fear about a deadlock in the KRT. What would happen if the UN judges still had the intent to invite the king father to the KRT and Cambodia resolutely objected to it?"
"Will the United Nations be still imbued with the idea of inviting the king father to the law court despite Cambodia's objection? The great heroic king will become a test for the cooperation between Cambodia and the United Nations," the report concluded.
80 comments:
King Father of Srok Khmer knows a lot of important things about the KR, and he should know many other important things during the times of war between 1970-present. King Father of Srok Khmer can help answer many questions at the KRT that will explain why we went to war with each other between 1970-1975?
King Father of Srok Khmer shouldn't be afraid of anything.
All along people suspect the halt and detraction are rooted from someone who knows intimate information about KR plan and action.
Now it is clear that someone is no other but Sihanouk himself.His true color is appearing now before the UN commissioned Tribunal.
UN Tribunal needs to stand up with CPP to kick out the KRT judges to show CPP and Royal family that no one is above the law including Sihanouk. If UNT doesn't summon Sihanouk to the court and let him do whatever he wants, he will think himself that I'm untouchable. This is the right time that America gets revenge with Sihanouk after Sihanouk humiliated America in Vietnam War by helping Hanoi to win the war. It's time to put Sihanouk and CPP in jail for killing Khmer people. How many Hun Sen has killed Khmer people? Too many!!!
Hun Sen needs to be trial also.
Now you! UN know that in 1993 you were handing us People of Cambodia)
to the communist!
Please free us ! now! We are slavering to the killer communist!
Boy cut the 2008 election don't play the communist tricky game!
millions of Cambodians will be very happy to see the X-King stand trial. These criminals are protecting each other.
Can the victims and families of victims then take both Sihanouk and the current government to an international court?
Was ECCC created and controlled by the Cambodian government?
Are genocide and crimes against humanity universal concerns that should be above smaller individual groups or governments that may have hidden motives to protect the criminals?
Is the king more important than the justice for millions Khmer people?
Listen to the leader of democracy party Sam Rainsy: if King-Father decides not to show up in court, Sam Rainsy will also support this decision. If King-Father decides to show up in court, I will also support this decision.
What kind of statement is this? Is he playing game?
Is it a threat by the government not to have the trial continue?
The king is not important the justice for my family and the families of hundred of thousands of my Khmer compatriots.
We must work to abolish the Cambodian monarchy if he dare not to stand trial. He will no longer be a respected king father. The history will be recorded about this king.
3:01AM
It is a political answer not to upset the king if you don't get it. I am sure SRP wanted the king to be trial but he just couldn't say the words out.
Yeah, I think it is not easy for SRP to decide something else when the others are agree to keep former King immunity.
Sihanouk must tell the truth now.Because we don't understand why a group of khmer leaders want to destroy their country and to kill millions of khmer people. Is it for the power or money to justify such atrocity toward their citizens by leaving them to starvations? I prefer be dead than killing innocents people and selling my own country.
Killers must be judged.
For my point of view, the former king must come to the KRT and the UN and the US must not be afraid of calling him. If they can put hun Sen, his familly and Hok Lundy out of Cambodia, cambodians will be grateful. Hun Sen and his familly can take their money of corruptions to live in Vietnam, we don't care but we don't want to see them anymore.
Decision of KRT is not based on Lao Mong Hay view however it should be on the ground of:
-Period stipulated between 1975- 1979.
-Former king was in house arrest in 1976 and the killing started in 1977 under the claim of cultural revolution.Arrest and killing became worst progressively.
-1975 upto almost the end of 1976,re education camp, and minimal killing took place due to anger and misunderstanding events.
The former king clarification is helpful,regardless where it is made considering appropriate.Any intimidation only slow down or obstructing the revealation of crimes taken place.At the same time ,there are co operation from political parties in cambodia thus for cambodia's stability.
Cambodians know that khmer killing khmer influenced by other countries involvement.Intention of reducing khmer in number,killing human resources-intellects is the key to diminish national resource,killing the youth in all regime especially KOR 5(activity where human right organisation should investigate).These events to eradicate khmer resources all shapes and forms taken place and still continues.There are significant leaders for pro vietnamese and were khmer rouges have to be called as witnesses for the purpose of uncover crimes against innocent cambodians.
Please all compatriots,I urge you to look at events behind the plays.Anger does not help khmer ,in fact what it is fuelled khmer to kill khmer along womanising,materialised and ego that has led khmer to destruction.
WE SHOULD BE AWARE SO THE HISTORY WON'T REPEAT WHICH LEADS TO SELF DESTRUCTION.
kHMER SOTH
With our respect to Dr.Lao Mong Hai
Dr.Thankfull for your requested to UN .In the future
of Cambodia,we hope there will be too many Lao Mong Hay on their way ,because of your foot step toward Cambodia for the justice.
That won't be any justice ,if N Seihaknouk not standing at the KRT to clarify him self ,that his involvement with the Cambodian genocidal are cleared. A lot of Cambodian are very disappointed with Cambodian laws and their systems,because sound so ignorance,with the crook and body system,not a standard of the law.
Thank you in advance for your hard working for all Cambodian 's Justice and the rest of two million souls.
Best regards,
khmer pheas khluon CA,USA
Hanoi=CPP=King, they all afraid to reveal the secrets that VC are the one that killed cambodia people! freaking VC!
Come on Samdech Ta!!! Real gold is never afraid of fire.
You are too old to play such tricky game. The last minutes you still alive, please do something for our beloved citizen. You've led/supported tremendious wrong ways such as the events of 1970, 1975 and espcially 1993. Without you 1993, Srok Khmer would be bright by allowing UNTAC kicked Hun Sen out of Cambodia.
I know you are so spoiled by CPP call you as a shadow tree. But do you remenber Hun Sen warned he could cut the branches of tree in order to destroy the shadow and even to dig its roots? Com on Ta Ta... It is almost late now but... you still have chance as I mentioned above the last minutes you are alive.
If the UN wants the King to cooporate, then the UN should invite Vietnam, the Khmer Rouge's creator and the Khmer Rouge's supporter (Viet faction); China, the Khmer Rouge's supporter (China faction); the US, the mighty bombs; Russia, the Communist's supporter in a full swing.
Does the UN know that the Vietnamese agents are still all over in Cambodia in civilian clothes? Why don't they ask this former Khmer Rouge, Mr Hok Lundi (former Nguyen Van Son)?
Bring the Khmer Rouge's creator out. Why is the UN picking only a weak nation who has tried to survive? The King did his very best to protect his country from the mighty Communist troops of Vo Nguyen Giap and Ho Chi Minh whose troops were infiltrated in Cambodia since French protectorate before King Sihanouk became King.
HM King Sihanouk sought help from China, because there was no other choices since the US foreign policy is no guaranteed. And why should Cambodia trust the US if the French failed Cambodia once by allowing the Vietnamese to control Cambodia state affair and allowed the Vietnamese took Khmer land including Korh Tral.
If no one is above the law then how about the Khmer Rouge creator?
Vietnamese Rouge were with Pol Pot.
And Pol Pot is dead and how can he defend himself? The Viet Rouige said Pol Pot (China faction) was evil, so anyone replacing Pol Pot is better, then the Viet Rouge created another Khmer Rouge is Hun Sen (Viet faction). After the killings and fought, Hun Sen went to Vietnam in 1978, Pol Pot became the leader in 1978, so who ruled Cambodia (as Angkar leu) from 1975-1978?
The Vietnamese communist were the main one who brought the genocide into Cambodia. If the Vietnaese Communist did not create Khmer Rouge, Cambodia would have not fallen.
Cambodian people shoud demand that China, Vietnam, Russia and the US pay and rebuild Cambodia and protect her territory from the Vietnamese Communist from further encroaching.
Who said that no Viet Rouge in Khmer rouge regime in Cambodia?
Nguyen Van Son (Hok Lundy) was one of the Khmer or Viet Rouge. He was one of the Khmer Rouge and many thousand more that we don't know about. Dr. Tioun Mom, Tioun Thieun can testify unless they keep lying.
Why did they kill Pol Pot before the trial? It must be too ugly to let the world know about who were the real killers?
Pay Cambodia not money but build Cambodia and protect our frontier from the Viet Rouge.
To 09:57AM Thanks for your comment,but further more we all would like the facts and reason ,hearsay it won't work at the court except in PP court,am here not to fight but fair and justice for two million souls and all Cambodian who love the justice and all people around the world. If09:57AM Knows so much about involvement between China,Vietnam,Russia and US causing holocaust &blood bath in Cambodia,why don't you take all your documents to show the UN then your Seihaknouk defending it worth something,but if you are just come and confuse the others it won't work I guarantee. Because almost all of Cambodian PPL know Seihaknouk if guilty of creating slaughter house in Cambodia,and he is the important witness of that crime,why Seihaknouk is mumbling ? why in 1993 he said he go to KRT now why he refused? Don't you see some thing wrong there?
What do you think the UN is going to do? They failed to disarm Khmer Rouge (Viet faction) and now look what happen? Documents or not documents, the UN won't dare to cross China and the US.
You and your group keep trying to persecute King Sihanouk just the same as Pol Pot were used by the Viet Rouge to eliminate the intellectuals.
If you are so darn smart and why didn't you be a leader and see how smart you can be.
I don't have to show the UN anything the UN can look up how many bombs dropped in Cambodia. and the UN can just look up why the war between Communist and Capitalist spreading into South East, and far east Asia.
Your attempt to persecute Khmers for the Vietnamese Rouge won't make it because we will fight your group all the way.
Only your group who hate the KIng but millions of us don't.
The facts turned to Here say? Sound like ah Yiek Cong who keeps denying.
If the Seihaknouk and polpot were used by Vietcong ,Seihaknouk not dying yet,we want him to point his fingers or tell the KRT who use him to kill Cambodian people? Why your team and million others who defending him, just do not want him to testify because you and your team are the same part of
the Khmer and youn murderer team that get involve with Cambodian genocidal ? No matter you and your team try to buried the truth it make more people anxious to know more about that,please do not under estimate of UN ,while all the people around the world they respect,with out them you do not have to day .I'm telling you 10:56AM to wake up because ,this time if you are defending the guilty man you are the one who are the second degree murder involvement too.because devil with devil. Thank you
SHUT UP Ah VIET CONG, STOP DEVIDING KHMERS TO KILL KHMERS.
STOP USING YOUR DIRTY TRICK TO KILL KHMERS AGAIN.
There are Khmers gangs CPP who will kill KHmers for Yuon, but to say the King would have killed his own people from all the heart ache and hard work asking China for help to save his country is sure sick.
There were many Yuon and pro Yuon who used the King name for their own interest, and how can the King stop them while the country was in upside down?
What do these anti the King expect from him if the superpower like China may not want him to testify or may be Vietnam made a deal with China not to let the King to testify? The King is powerless. There are more bigger than what we see. It is not up to the King now, it is up to China and Vietnam. Pretty sure the King wanted so much to tell the world what happened, but there may be a great barrier, but the anti Sihanouk don't understand what are behind the pictures.
Sad.
To Khmer Soth, I don't know if you were in Cambodia or not at the time of Khmer Rouge but I was there in Battambang province. The killing of Lon Nol soldiers and other high officials started from April 17, 1975. The Khmer Rouge used the phrase, Tout Tor Toul Samdec oeuv, to persuade all those hapless soldiers and officials to identify themselve. Do you know how many thousands died when people were thrown out from the cities into the jungle without food and medecine? This is all happened in 1975. The majority of the killings by the Khmer Rouge after 1976 were purges against their own kind(Khmer Rouge against Khmer Rouge), of course thousands of ordinary people died of starvation and disease too. My point is most of the intellectuals, officials, and soldiers were killed in the first year of Khmer Rouge's victory.
The King is 84 years old why should he be afraid of China and Vietnam. Is he afraid of getting kill by these countries? If the threat of life on the King is real, he should risk his life to shame these countries by exposing them in the UN Tribunal so millions of Cambodian souls will rest in peace.If he realy is a Legend King of Cambodia.
It is not about the age, it is about the security of his country.
For him alone is no problems but for his nation.
You people try to hit him hard, because of one reason JUSTICE for the dead. But this justice that involved foreigners will not suit what you want. It will suit what they want.
You anti King are sure talk big because you and your group are not in it.
The souls will even more troubles and won't be able to rest in peace if the Communist take the country.
Right now at least Cambodian still have the land on lease.
You don't need to speculate too much, because your mind is to persecute the King; and that's not going to happen. We will kill each other again, unless you demand all factions to court not only the King.
Don't again use Yuon tactices to kill Khmers.
Lao Hong May, is that the guy who worked with the KR to fight against the Vietnamese occupation army. I guess time does change. ;)
All true Khmer compatriots, ladies and gentlemen,
Cambodia has cancers that were embedded into her by China+YUONS+Vietminh-CPP-Hun Sen+all royal crooks through traitor Sihanouk's flesh and blood, also through his YUON wife Monique and Sihanouk’s clique.
To have true and lasting peace for Cambodia these cancers have to be removed once and for all, either by the law of ECCC-KRT or by any means, as long as the majority of true Khmers agree with it.
If these cancers remain inside Cambodia, without proper treatment, YUONS will continue to swallow us bit by bit every day and China will gobble the whole region without mercy toward Cambodian land and all Khmer people. They will achieve this with the continued assistance of NORODOM SIHANOUK and HUN SEN.
KULEN MONOROM
(the rice farmer's son)
Well, it seems we all got very excited when it comes to Samdech Ta King Father! That's fine, but we must look at all the angles before we leap. Otherwise, we can be manipulated by those strategists working behind the shadow.
Take the anti-Thai riot as an example. We all got very angry when someone made a public statement that a Thai actress had claimed Angkor Wat belonged to Thailand. Of course, there was an element of truth in it, but we never got riled up like this before. Young students paraded Phnom Penh streets on their motorcycles with placards. Then, there was news that the Cambodian Embassy in Bangkok was attacked and a number of people were killed. That kick-started the controlled riot.
I said the controlled riot because the police and military police could have stopped it easily. A police field commander radioed Hok Lundy for the permission to intervene, but Hok Lundy shouted over the walkie-talkie to him to stand down. Some people were pictured stepping on Thailand's revered King portrait inside the Thai Embassy, and we only realised later that they were not Cambodians. And, the rest was history.
What were the results of this episode? Import of Thai products went down and Viet products flooded the Cambodian market. Sam Rainsy was accused by the CPP of initiating the riot, and Thailand refused his entry. Then, the border agreement with Vietnam went ahead as planned a long time ago.
Sihanouk was manipulated just like other KR leaders. And, our whole system of government is still being manipulated. Our short-sighted excitement has cost us death and misery. It's time we should look beyond what we see and hear, and discover the conspiracy behind it all.
That bad and sad for people who just wanted the word JUSTICE to Cambodian people and two million souls to rest in peace. But this monarchy's mouth piece and Hun Sen mouth piece it doesn't want Cambodian PPL knowing the truth,they want Cambodian PPL uneducated ,they wanted their own PPL dumb and blinded example like they have done too many Cambodian beloved one in side Cambodia now, why should they are afraid of sending Seihaknouk and Hun Sen to UN trial ,because of Cambodia 's instability? That is death wrong. Hun Sen
his afraid of Cambodian PPL know how to judge him like Sadam Hussen so he use all his tact's and all obstacles to stop KRT not for that retired king.
To me only the few Cambodian treason, on their hands stained with Cambodian blood ,in-washable so they afraid of taking Seihaknok and Hun Sen to KRT. If they are real people they loving justice they are not intent do block the justice. Criminal PPL>>scare justices
Demons PPL>>scare Temple,Church
I am still seeing Vietcong that came and killed Cambodian create bloodbath in Rattanakiri in70 in purpose of Seihaknouk need help,I am still smelling the blood that Seihaknouk soldiers kill us in Chenla I ,Chenla II in Kg Thom ,I am still seeing Seihaknouk soldier bomed us and kill in Neak Loeung,koki thom and Dei Eit,I am still seeing Seihaknouk soldier kill us in Kg Chnang,Chbar Ompov and phnom Penh in74to 75 I am still eeing that Seihaknouk soldiers took my friends and Phnom Penh evacuators to kille in1976.I am still seeing my Lyce'e Tuol Svay Prey become to be TS21( international slaughter house) I'm still need the justice of my 33 family members,that khmer rouge executed them,I am not take the revenge I want KRT by UN court has success ,I want Cambodian PPL has the right to say what I said,I want to see the Justice has been served in Cambodia.
If Seihaknouk joining the USA we did not have the killing field but he take China and youn Viet.now he try to accuse USA of khmer rouge creator is USA it sound funny and not appropriate ,N Seihaknouk doesn't like USA because when he came to the States he had to stand inline to get the bus and USA do not support his life time in the power so China allow him to have that. For all the knee jerks and living under the dust feet of Seihaknouk be advise ,N Seihaknouk what he did for his power not for the interest of country,you all can see while Cambodian starving his son get five million US dollar a year ,for what? Just sit down and doing nothing ,come on time to clean up some parasites from in and out to make Cambodia healthier.
If and if and if and if..if. How many if are you making, dumb?
Sidng with China is better than the US or siding with the US is better than China? Which ever way you side Viet Cong keep going after you. When French came and Khmers freed from them but then the same French brought Viet Cong back to control Khmers. Have you got any brain to think why Viet Cong came back, and then they were infiltrated since then. The Viet Cong came back because too many dumb like you around.
You don't know the policy of the US so stop yapping fool. The US now took good companies to Vietnam doing business with Vietnam.
To you politics is just eating meal. If King Sihanouk joined the US no killing field? How can you are so sure? Have you forgotton taht Ah Yiek Cong created Khmer Rouge since 1930 and they were all over in Cambodia working with poor people at the country side? Are you that dumb? If you are too dumb then you deserve to lead Cambodia just like Hun Sen. Too many dumb people like you cause troubles to the country and they blamed the King. They think they know all.
4:51 PM
I absolutely agreed with you for Khmer people to learn to indept research before any kinds of reation. Quick judgement or quick to believe anyone could lead us to great pain. You must know that in the case of Khmer Rouge trial, there are a lot people out there trying to keep the truth out by saying different things to sway your opinion. My suggestion is to not believe anyone; do your own research! Form your own opinion, speak your heart and do your part. This is 2007 and we don't live in the stoneage or cocoon. We are now smarter. We should not allow ourselves to be minipulated by those illerate crooked leaders from the truth. No one is above the law including the king and Hun Sen. The histroy will be written and we must put our country in the right direction once for all. But we should also keep an eye for the foreigners too. They also try to wash their hands but in a much subtle ways. Be smart, not a fart.
I have a message for the king. I hope you take the time to read all the opinions and reactions with conviction from your childred. Whatever outcome is the outcome that your children to remember you in your final years.
Want KRT to success? And who supervise the KRT? It is not the UN it is China and Vietnam.
I don't see the UN called the Yuon faction like Hun Sen, Chea Sim, Heng Samrin and Hok Lundy to court. Why is that?
Because Hok Lundy is waiting to shoot. Who is Hok Lundy? He is Yuon. THis KRT is just a SHOW so goes the 60 millions to each of them pocket and some goes to the foreign lawyers. Don't forget that Hun Sen already has his foreign lawyers from the US. Now new faces keep coming? Khmer Senators but Chinese. It will be more come from Korea. MOney can buy everything in Cambodia.
You trouble makers have no clues what is going on behind the stage.
Now Khieu Samphan said not many Yuon? Sure he said that because the gun points to his head or may be his Boss China said so. Vietnam made a deal with China that's what happen. If joinmed with the US, the US may again deal with only Vietnam so the rest Laos and Cambodia is history.
You trouble makers may not know this that Vietnamese have too many graduated degrees than Khmers.
Go figure out. There are many things to help Cambodia beside bitching and killing each others.
FYI trying to persecute the King is not going to happen, because million of us love him and we will fight your group to death.
This KRT is going nowhere. Why? The superpower like China and the conspirator like Vietnam involved with the genocide.
While the Vietnamese were already silently invaded Cambodia, then the war between the Capitalist and Communist started, the Vietnamese Communist used it as a pretext to invade Cambodia. The story of Pol Pot invaded Vietnam were fabricated by Vietnam Communist themselves. Pol Pot said he did not, but then he was assassinated. That's the end of Pol Pot, the jerk who flunked all classes in France.
MOST OF THE TRUTH STORY GO WITH THOSE WHO ALREADY DEAD AND WHO ARE STILL ALIVE BUT AFRAID TO SPEAK UP.
SOME STORY WROTE BY SCHOLARS ARE SPECULATING BUT THE FACTS REMAIN TO BE UNSEEN.
Take one like Lon Nol. Lon Nol's soldiers were so corrupted, his own brother Lon Non was the godfather, just like what you see in PP today. Do you know Lon Nol's new wife was Sino Vietnamese?
I asked many old people and many remembered.
Some olf cannot know everything, some of them were prejudice, racist, hate just like we see today. When tehy hate someone they accused them Yuon, like some Lon Nol relative accused King Sihanouk wife Yuon but she is Khmer. So why is Lon Nol's wife Yuon? I hate to say this. There are Yuon but these women are not Yuon. Lon Nol's wife is Khmer and Sihanouk's wife too.
Heng Samrin and Keat Chhon wives are Yuon that's what I knew for real from reading. Keat Chhon looklikes Yuon to me but he is not Yuon. See?
"The souls will even more troubles and won't be able to rest in peace if the Communist take the country.
Right now at least Cambodian still have the land on lease.' The Lease will be expired in 20 years(for Khmers) with the current government's immigration policy. The Ex King is a big supporter of this government. He praises Hun Sen so much that the EX King sounds so senile. Your comment about Sihanouk can not attend the UN Tribunal because he wants save Cambodia does not sound very logical.
It seemed like two of knee jerks living in the dust of Seihaknouk do not know nothing from the ass to their face try to lie from their teeth that Lon Nol wife is Vietnam sound bazaar keep gesture I do not telling you,because of your ignorance natural born retarded ,look at that old king making Cambodian embrace with all kind of suffer,disaster and dead no where else compare to Cambodia,because Seihaknouk so stupid that untouchable spoil little brat wanted to destroy USA(in indochina federation meeting) and at the end he fuck every one up,and you fool defending him as you loco king? I hope this time your hero king not finish your mother and father like two million ppl ,so here my advise you better go to find the therapist to bring your brain in order,and do not bring Cambodian PPL go in to Your stupid marki(jungle) as 1970 Cambodian beloved one ,all of them know as well as the monarchy=parasite=leach so have a good dream that Seihaknouk get away from life time jail or neck hung at Tropeang Kroleung,and to you also all the king servants will be sent to the same place with the the penalty of perjury crime
Thanks you for posting the none sense comment
Sadam Hussen killed 3000 Iraqui = hang the neck
Milosowic president of Cheko = went to jail and die
Isen Abrepy Chart government =life time sentence
Because of their crime against humanity.
How about Seihaknouk the killing field creator or get involve with khmer rouge ,is it walk FREE?
To the people born with the foot walking with the knee and living under the tiny dust of N Seihaknouk.
I do not understand why for stabilization of Cambodia N Seihaknouk had to sacrifice two million people? N Seihaknouk already know Vietnam is the crocodile while he called yuon his friend?
Now who killed two million of Cambodian ?
Seihaknok ,youn or both?
Look at Thai ,Singapore,philippine malaysia ,for their politic career did they did that bazaar and stupid like N Seihaknouk?
Seihaknouk GO TO HELL HAS NEVER RETURNED
12;26pm.
KRT is a high profile case invloved with China and Vietnam. There is no logical explanation for you and your anti-King Sihanouk.
You said it that this lealse can only last for 20 years; and as long as you and your anti King Sihanouk continue to tear each other apart, then for you the lease is over; but we will be always existed; just have to work harder.
His Majesty the King, King Father is not in hell, but you are who has a miserabe life. You think you know everything, Losser.
I want to ask Mr 10:52 PM, if you know that all these high ranking officials in the Cambodian government are Youns, why do you support Sihanouk who not only supports but praises this government every time he opens his mouth? Are you contradicting youself by support the King who supports the government that you despise? And I don't think anyone wants to PERSECUTE the King but we just want him to tell the world of what he knew about the DARKEST PERIOD OF CAMBODIAN HISTORY, UNDER OATH...
Most Cambodians lack of intelligence about enemy forces. They say what they see; and the saddest part is they always claimed they know everything.
The ones who curse the King the most are the people who know only the pictures on the screen nothing else.
The King is powerless, and he is not allowed to say or make comments anymore. Why don't these loosers ask the UN to call Hun Sen, Heng Samrin, Chea Sim, and Hok Lundy to tell the people what they saw or knew last seen of Pol Pot men? These guys in power today are Khmer Rouge and tehy must have seen or known what happened and who did the killings or who ordered from Angkar Leu?
Someone said Dr. Lao Mong Hay used to work with KR to overthrow Viet Cong, then he too should be called to testify.
The UN needs King Sihanouk to start a spark to create a fire!
8:30 AM,
I'm proud to be Khmer. The Khmerness is in my heart and my soul. The Lease statement is referred to uncontrol influx of Vietnamese immigrants into Cambodia under the current government. If nothing change, Cambodia will be Champa II. I wish your beloved King has the gut to raise the awearness of this danger to all Cambodians. Or may be he is too scare of Vietnam and Hun Sen....
To 8:49 AM, we know nothing and that is why we want His Majesty the Ex King to enlighten us and the world infront of the UN Tribunal.
920am. The ball is not on the King's court but on China and Vietnam's.
927am. Good, you are Khmer and you should be proud of your root. But you need to sit back and think or make friend with wise people instead of making it worse.
You want to change then you have to be part of the systems and work harder. Cursing from oversea won't help.
This Yuon disease is not new it went back to the old century.
9:42 AM, if you know it is a disease, get treatment or get help. And if it is contagious disease, you and your love one can die from it by keeping it in secret. Keeping his mouth shut does not help Cambodia one little bit. And you know who i'm talking about.
12.08PM -I was also in battambang,KR had gathered offials in SO HEU primary school and believed they had been killed along phnom sampeo road.Those only initial lot were tricked and killed.Two trips of foreigners taken to poippet at end of April and Mid May 1975.I would like to know as much as you all do but we have to be sensitive about issue of KRT avoiding more damage incurred.Justice is good but watch fo manipulation that we all should learn from.I am also the surviver.
Khmer Soth
8:49AM Talk is cheap you know,I've been through these period of times I have my paper trail,I have documentation in paper I am the victim of khmer genocidal under N Seihaknouk king,president and leader of Cambodia it is not hear say,this is twenty one century I will face with N Seihaknouk and ask him face to face if I have the chances, I am not just mouth pieces when the first one start to bark and others do not see any then continuous to bark like doggy,this is
my privilege to be khmer ,not a blind folded defending people with out knowing something that is very sad ,why our mother country never have a safe place to leave because most of leaders are gutless people,kissing ass for the job,no degree,ignorant want to get big job Shame on you my dear do not have a dream our mother land gonna be independent because too many ignorance to distract the progress of the country.
Thank you .
11:21AM correction safe place live
It is kind of funny to see the Vietcong puppet government instructed King Sihanouk to call on the UN to meet him!
The UN is bigger than King Sihanouk! So King Sihanouk has no right to call upon UN officials to meet him! This is the reason why no UN officials show up at the King’s palace!
I believe in the very near future if King Sihanouk is still alive the UN will call upon King Sihanouk and he will have no other choice except to show up the UN court!
If AH HUN SEN want to shut down the UN court that is his problem!
You can't start a fire without a spark and King Sihanouk is the spark!
This is Seihaknouk fault , I do not care some one said some thing. Why Seihaknouk do not leave Lon Nol and In Tam alone ,since this king using In Tam,Lon Nol ,Cheng Heng and his cousin anyway and lied to them as the country politic(sic cheating USA)
why this king taking it serious? Hating his own people to satisfy Vietcong and China killed his own people?? why why? Why he doesn't leave khmer republic alone that was under Seihaknouk instruction? Why Lon Nol called for Seihaknouk to return to his position in 93 Why this king didn't want it,just want to kill khmer republican,that is bazaar and stupid thing to do, tell them to do their job they did it ,taking revenge from them.
Seihaknouk is bad leader he killed his two million citizen,he is making Cambodia exhausted and he taking enemies to be his families. This is the history of king norodom Seihaknouk at 21 century in Sovannapoom Cambodia.
2;14 PM correction in 1973 to return to his power.
08:33Am since you are playing with no respect and you take that as personal,I would inform you the slut serving in the royal palace nothing differences from the the whore from Svay Pak they all are not good. You worry only lose your job as dirty business that you have been doing now in the palace,but for us we worry loosing
Cambodia ,so your Majesty will find guilty and all the king's servants will hang their neck up together with penalty of perjury and treason, and the The Majesty committed the crime against human causing two million Cambodian lives death must be life time in jail or the neck hung like Sadam. Thank you,that is my verdict.
May lord Buddha help to find the way for Cambodian to see the Justice
Are you all experts? You seem to know everything about is the good leaders who is the bad. Isn't the court supposed to be the one to lay it all out and determine who the bad buys are? Why are we fighting each other like a baby? Is your bickering will help anything toward peach and development? Why are we so messed up in our minds? Is being simple to good to be truth? Why do we have to make life more complicated? Isn't it already hard enough? Grow up! Or keep on your misery life! Non of you deserve to be a leader for Cambodia if keep on behaving like this!
His Majesty the old monarch is not in Hell, but you are in hell 5;51pm. Your hell is bickering and cursing suffering tremendously online.
Meta Karuna and Khantei are not in your heart. Buddha can't help you because you are Angkulimea.
Chet chea Tevatort morth chea Tevarada sahav doch yeak.
This dumb azz 551pm deserves to be the leader of Cambodia after Hun Sen, because he is crazy and dumbest like it. oh well Cambodia has mostly fool and dumb like these jerks; so the fools can be the leader.
praying for Buddha just like ah T'mat Hun Sen, but chet vea sahav doch ah Preit. You waste our Prey Sar, just send you straight to Hell, trouble maker. Why was you born too dumb huh?
I got it 9:17 PM. Not all the experts know everything, but right we don't know who are good or bad leaders in Cambodia. Everythings are confusing that is why I keep my mouth shut and keep watching. I am certain the King is a great politician and he knows what he is doing for his country; but it is going to be difficult for many who don't understand the politics. These group expect things to be simple; and you are right "keep on your misery life". Hope they get the message.
We hope to have many thousand jobs for our people; we can't worry about these group whose cause trouble on the cyber space.
I don't like Hun Sen and his wife and their clans who abuse power but if he can bring more jobs for our people I am happy for now.
These people who use tactic to get our King is on;y delay our peace and developmemt and also they only strength the dictators to prolong their terror even more. Hun Sen would use that he is the only one who can protect Cambodia from going to anacrhy.
We have a long way to go mate. JOBS that are what we need now.
"I am certain the King is a great politician and he knows what he is doing for his country; but it is going to be difficult for many who don't understand the politics".
From my young age I heard this word(POLITIC) used everywhere in Cambodia like (KOM PROI EY KI NOYOBAY KEY TE) but most of those people who use this word does not understand what the meaning of this word is. Some people confuse the meaning of NOYOBAY WITH MATHYOBAY. I think this word POLITIC(NOYOBAY) is used by Cambodian leaders to keep ordinary Cambodian from asking or knowing what is going on arround them. Some Cambodian leaders use this word(POLITIC) to cover up their mistake and failure. The meaning of NOYOBAY(POLITIC) is so myterious for ordinary Cambodians that they stop asking question whenever they heard the prase NOYOBAY KEY TE.
10;29 pm you are already in hell because of you do not know any thing from your face and to your ass,like choosing the leader,the great sample are there Seihaknouk had lead the country in to genocidal you still defend it,Hun Sen leading country in to slavery ,mafia,drug trafficking ,human trafficking,corruption you can name it you still support it,you are so blind you do not know what is wright and wrong,how many more folding of the hell you want more get the life stupid Your majesty is the killer. Your brain need to be replace it was too old.
Thank you
09:17PM I already told ,am not the type of people living under the tiny dirt of Your Majesty feet,I born and walking with my feet not my knee that enough is enough our people learn how to live with king or no king for 34 years nothing is differences, you do not bring that stupid feudalism ,or parasite life style and return it to Cambodia,look at you beside doing that dirty business in the royal palace do you know some thing else to do?(ping peang)spiders' s job you know what I mean,now a day around the world they not recognize crazy monarchy anymore for modern world,
just waste their tax money,fro your accusation that I am not deserve to be the Cambodia leader I accept it because I like Samransy politic style none of others if I have the chances,I do not want youn an siam look down my citizen,I want my citizen educate I want jobs for my people and I want kampuchea krom is returned ,I do not most my people has kind of business like you no shame (luok khluon) or( gave kluon free) to royal family for being big shot shame on you crazy power,not me (ping peang)
9;17PM10:29PM10:40PM I know you are just the same dumb and blind people on earth you have to to replace your brain or getting some therapist to bring down your brain in order because it too old and abnormal functioning or find pesticides to drink before come in to observe ,look up how many voices that support your monarchy? 2 against 63 you see it or you want me to take all this to your home? That is not famous anymore if you put this case on the scale
two million lives= one live??????No wonder my country is still living in the hard time it has never ending. All the worse mistakes made by the leaders like Seihaknouk and Hun Sen others big mistakes causing by you two because you still support and defend that bad leaders to continious
oppressing it own citizen so the criminal leaders and the supporter are facing charge the same crime,that all my observation.
Dear friends!
Exchange view is good for better understanding.May I encourage that we stop abusing one another because appearantly we have the same goal,concerned for our beloved country but not our fight.
It seems range of ideas from young and old,so let's focus on positive side,civilised that people can learn it from.Sometime the stirup created then our opponent snatch the benefits.This case could be on our king's issue.Most of us had gone through painful dream in KR then and now,however as it was expressed is our caution so that we,copatriots,won't fall into trap.
It is clear we have been invaded.Acts of oppression ,control and rob our land by army,intimidation by police,citizens killed for abolishing evidence...because of the propped uneducated power used to kill khmer.To maintain these power they are falsely upgraded for political purposes,for a weak cambodia.
Gentlemans with NGO's assistances,better understanding of education and promote values of ETHICS ,both from institution and BUDDHISM where they have tried to turn it ugly so that we lose our ground ,for instance of monk Tim Sokhorn...etc.Human rights organisations both national and international are our support.Our politicians are encouraged to resolve oppressive matters,and seek resolution internationally.The key is prompt taxing system implemented,I beieve it can be done with cheap computer for tranparency,so that our civil servants HAVE TO WORK EFFECTIVELY.
King can be urged to excercise articles 8 and 9 of our constitution for cambodians' rights and safety,so that he should not be ashamed when country collaped.Please work together.
Khmer Soth
I wrote 9:17 and I agreed with you 5:56 AM. We need to keep it simple and positive. It seems there are a lot of sick people in here. They even take on me when I am not even attacking at anyone specifically. I just try to sort things out for them so we don't bicker like this. It act worst than children. I amazed how Cambodian adults behave like this throwing mud at each other when they don't have all the facts. I suggest everyone to cool down and take it slow but it think it hard. We need to put ourselves to a new level. We know more now than we were. So please grow up. We need to learn a new culture with facts, knowledge and respect. We all live in the same country, let do it for our nation so we can prosper.
How much does this Tmat know about politics?
9;17PM10:29PM10:40PM are different people why you going crazy? Don't you have a life besides stabbing your anal bleeding? Who is going to support TMAT Psycho with a crazy dog disease like you?
Here my dog food left over. Bite it ah Tmat prass srok. You need a real help Ah Psychopath. How you fightthe enemy by barking at other people online don't sound you are not sick.
Ah Viet Cong just laughing at ah prass srok all the way to Bevet.
Prek tnot has no room for you ah Tmat psychopath.
My response in 758am to ah Tmat psychopath ah prass srok 4:54 am.
Thanks Khmer sot you are making senses ,in the way that making Cambodia survive from the peril disastrous ,that the way around and the end we get the same our gaol to save and help to build Cambodia ,but some ignorance and un-eduacte people,just wanted to wrap up the mistakes and doesn't want to learn about the mistakes had been made,Make it to easy way to understand ,we get to get the doctor to analyze the sickness then we go to get the medicine ,and this 8:14am getting diseases doesn't want to get help. just keep that contagious disease spread all over to his beloved one,so it doesn't work that way,we sick go to find the doctor ,and Seihaknouk wether he convict it or not let the UN Judge play their part.
people get sick go to see the doctor
people that has indictment go to see court.
Thanks you.
You Khmer have the opportunity to change the regime in 2008. Please take that opportunity. It could save you, your people, and country.
George J.
I really agree with 9:17.We have to work to save our country from the crocodile in knowledges otherwise our enemies use our power to kill ourself.We work for our children for the next generation to come.
Oh please! You don't have to know everything to become an expert!
Do you really think that people have to know everything in order to become a doctor? Then you must be a fool!
1:00PM Do not fool your self too much ,only doctors in Vietnam and Cambodia, do not know every thing and get the licenses to become to be the doctors,shame on you I am quit talking to you, you are nonsenses talk to your self.
814am does not have disease but you ah me Tmat prass srok 854am,554am,407am,343am,1235am,551pm,214pm,1121am,651am, 'n go all the way up.
You got no life but a trouble maker. Prey say awaiting for you ah tmat.
Hey 4:03 PM, when pointing a finger at someone look at your tomb, where is it point at? Most of your arguments are full of contradiction and your comments are full of anger. You can not survive an in person live debate. You will have a heart attack for sure.....
Pointing finger? contradict? where? This yukom batt psar deserves to be treated what it asked for. These bastards love to curse instead of debate then it got what it deserves. Who asked Buddha for help then cursing the King to hell? I told you that million of us in Cambodia love the King, you bastard can just take a poison pill and leave.
We don't need trouble makers like you to help us, we can manage ourselves.
"We don't need trouble makers like you to help us, we can manage ourselves"
Yes, you could manage the country from inside the palace or a villa while the whole country is falling apart, natural resources destruction, dirt poor populations with no budy care, child prostition, rampant curruption, environmental damage, on and on and on....... If the Khmers outside the country had not send remittance to help their family and friend inside Cambodia, the ecomomy of Cambodia probably in deep shit. Do you know how many millions of dollars Khmers outside of country send to Cambodia every year? Don't be so arrogant, buddy.
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