Sunday, September 30, 2007

Vietnam allows Monk Tim Sakhorn’s relatives to visit him

29 September 2007
By Mayarith
Radio Free Asia

Translated from Khmer by Socheata

MP Son Chhay indicated that Vietnam agreed to allow the relatives of former Monk Tim Sakhorn to visit him in the Vietnamese jail. However, the demand for his release is still being negotiated.

Son Chhay said: “The (Vietnamese) embassy met with me yesterday. They told me about a number of reasons, on their Vietnamese side, which led to the arrest of Mr. Tim Sakhorn, and the Vietnamese provided clarification answers on a number of the requests I made. They promised me that they will not impose hardships, nor torture Mr. Tim Sakhorn. And they said that they will help make arrangement for the family of Mr. Tim Sakhorn to meet him because the Vietnamese law allows it. I told them to push this issue further, they should release Mr. Tim Sakhorn as soon as possible. As I told you earlier, because I will meet with the Vietnamese Parliament delegation this Monday, the (Vietnamese) embassy is making arrangements to provide good results regarding Mr. Tim Sakhorn, so that the discussion meeting between the Cambodian (National Assembly) Foreign Affairs Committee and the Vietnamese (Parliament) Foreign Affairs Committee will go well and there would not be any issues of concern.

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

The fucken barbaric Vietcong law is for the Vietcong people to follow and it doesn't apply to any Cambodian people in Cambodia!

Fuck all the Vietcong law! Vietcong need to get out and stop promoting their dog eating culture in Cambodia!

Anonymous said...

Tim Sakhorn is Ah Khmer-Yuon/Vietcong/Vietminh, you idiot.

Anonymous said...

I am afraid the youn will use Tim Sakhorn to as game like they do with hun sen.

Anonymous said...

Hey, yuon don't have time for that type of craps. They have 90 millions to take care off. And they are severely under staff, get it?

Anonymous said...

i think the vietnamese did the right thing by allowing the visit and not torturing tim sokhorn. if he is released, he should assure vietnam that he won't allow himself to be used by the westerners as a tool to subvert the good relations that cambodia currently enjoys with vietnam.

cambodia and vietnam are friends, not enemies. however, we cambodians must be smart to not make any more land concessions to vietnam or allow more vietnamese refugees into cambodia.

as for the ethnic vietnamese already in cambodia, we all need to reach out to them and integrate them into our society and culture and encourage to speak only khmer.

vietnamese cambodians are some of the most hard-working people in cambodia. everyone can learn from their fine work ethics and strong sense of community and use these lessons to improve our nation.

i hope members of cpp are reading my constructive message and implement some my ideas. we khmer must all unite and reject the divide and conquer schemes of the westerners. if we can keep them away from our women and children and kick them out, it's even better.

Anonymous said...

3:19, first let me say that your proposal is the fairest I seen so far, and I like to thank on behalf of khmer people for your understanding of the situation in cambodia today.

In regard to illegal immigrant, no one would want any illegal immigrant on their land, not Thai, Laos, Vietnam, nor Cambodia. Regretfully the problem is not as easy as it looks, not to mention the small sized budget at our disposal. Look, even the Super Rich US can't keep Mexican out of the US. So, how much do you expect from us? We have done the best we could. We've stop many from entering Cambodia, but we can't stop all of them. If they are desperate they'll find the way. The good news is (poor choice of words) Cambodia economy is not as good as Vietnam; thus, it will not attract anyone from here. The people that sneak in here are just those who hated communist that restrict their potential. And there is nothing wrong with having that type of people on our side.

Actually, Vietnam is having more illegal immigrant from our side of the fence than we have from theirs.

Anonymous said...

To 3:19PM and 4:24PM!

Whatever! I remembered in the 1980 after the Vietcong invasion of Cambodia and Cambodian refugees were pouring into Thai-Cambodian border! Soon after the United Nations established refugee camps!
I noticed that all these refugee camps are separated along ethnic line such as the Viet, Laos, Hmong, and Khmer! But what is so sad is the Khmer Resistance Force who is the only one fighting the Vietcong from over run these refugee camps!

It is kind a sad to hear all these Viet preaching about unity but deep down the Viet never want unity and they want to destroy the Khmer and maintain their domination over Khmer! Just look at the Khmer Krom people, there are over 10 million Khmer Krom who living under the Viet today and they are still fighting the Viet for freedom!

The Viet can claim all they want but they can’t hide the truth from Khmer people because Khmer people had been living next to them for along time and it is very predictable when the Viet say something because they like to gloat about themselves!

Anonymous said...

Good news! First, I am very gradeful to Mr. Son Chay, a very respectful and hard working parliament member who has worked tirelessly to bring this positive outcome. Keep your good work and serve your people honestly. I want to see more members of parliament from the CPP, who are courageous as if Mr. Son Chay. But so far, none of the CPP members dare to speak about this issue with the Vietnamese authority. Only the opposition members who dare to raise this issue with the Vietnamese. Now we get some positive result from them. So if you are a true representative of your people and your country, you must be brave enough to speak up against any act of injustice in order to defense your people and nation regardless of where it come from.

Anonymous said...

3:19. you are absolutely correct, sir. america has 12 million illegal immigrants (almost the population of cambodia) from mexico and central america. cambodia cannot absorb illegal immigrants from vietnam like vice versa because we're a much smaller country.

i think dr. hun sen is smart enough to realize this, but he is in a very, very complex situation. although i hate to admit this, vietnam is light years ahead of us in terms of development. the vietnamese who flee to cambodia are those who cannot compete with other vietnamese. i think we khmer people tend to be too complacent to acknowledge and respect the talents of the vietnamese.

like you said, no khmer wants to lose his land to any country, especially vietnam. but people should understand the complexity of the situation we are in. only someone as strong and intelligent as dr. hun sen can keep our country in one piece.

the westerners like to go into cambodia and talk about democracy, human rights, or whatever. but it's a trick to get our people submit to their supremacy rather than seeking our own sovereignty. for instance, cambodia receives about $25 to $50 million in foreign aid from the U.S. and many of us think that they care about us. what they don't realize is that israel, a country with half our population, recieves about $20 to $30 BILLION a year, about 800 times what we get from the US. i cannot believe that some of us are ignorant enough to think americans care about us. anyway, whether they do or don't doesn't...we should care about ourselves and not depend on others.

as for myself, i have no ties with the cambodian government. however, i do hope those who do consider some of my ideas to bring unity to cambodia and strengthen our country.

Anonymous said...

11:10, Vietnam is not dumb enough to use real vietnamese soldiers in Cambodia. A good portion of them are Ah Khmer-Yuons. Get your fact strait dude and take it from there. Right now your story bad Vietnamese does not make any sense. Is it really bad Vietnamese or bad Ah Khmer-Yuon?

Anonymous said...

Cambodians are more clevers than vietnameses: they can build angkor wat.What the vietnameses can do?
Our leaders are stupids and cheaters but they had not chose them ( Sihanouk and Hun Sen).

Anonymous said...

I'm v8,who ever wrote this it's got to be a vietcong agenc!!you wanted me to belive that's your vietcong is good friend to cambodia?this is another vietcong trick again.this is round two,the vietcong is using another kind of tragedy.to manipulate khmer peole and khmer kampuchea krom non sens,khmer krom escape to cambodia and all over the world to search for freedom just like us.only they try to trick us not to welcome the westerner.at same time they were kissing ass over the westerner.My advice to khmer people and khmer krom be united,this is like during the french colonal time ,they trick us that the french are doing this the french are doing that!at the time they were kissing the french ass!and look what's happen to khmer krom? the french favor the vietcong.so belive me don't be full by the vietcong trick!!it a trick!!the vietcong are using every trick in the book to manipulate khmer people.wake up!!!wake up!!!put the light shine in your brain.

Anonymous said...

To 3:30AM!

The only good Vietcong is a dead Vietcong!

Anonymous said...

Actually, a good Ah Khmer-Oversea is a dead Ah Khmer-Oversea.

Anonymous said...

That is okay. Khmer-Oversea is willing to die in the sea of love anytime! Ahahahah

Anonymous said...

Anything I can do to help expedite your wills?

Anonymous said...

I'm v8,who ever hate a westerner,and who ever hate khmer?they got to be a vietcongrat them self.because they are jealous to see our country and economy growing strong.don't be fool by the vietcongrat tragedy.we khmer people love westerner.

Anonymous said...

We don't have westerner, only their stupid Master Degree and PhD idea.

Anonymous said...

To 1:57PM!

Yes you can! How about give me your wife so that I can die in the sea of love. Ahahah

Anonymous said...

v8 (2:23)- speak for yourself. khmer people are beginning to understand how evil and scheming the westerners are. khmer people today are educated and learning about their attrocites and schemes. many of us who work with them do so just for their money, our hearts belong to our own people. to say that all khmers love the westerner is just like saying all khmers are dogs. it's insulting to those of us who aren't dogs. if you truly love the westerners, i suggest you let your wife, daughter, sister, or even mother become their sperm toilet and stop speaking for all khmer.

Anonymous said...

I'm v8,yeah..this is a vietrat,talking about donated their wife,daughter,sister or even there mother to the American,during the war in 1960,and now they trying to manipulate us?No way!!your ancestor must have sucking alots of white sperm back then.you vietrat must know how painful that is.well that is not our problem.we khmer people love westerner.

Anonymous said...

Okay guys, stop distracting us from the truth here.

The US had no business in Indochina in the late 1940's. After Vietnam defeated the French, the Vietnamese people was going to democratically voted on whether to let the North or the South ruling their country. What is wrong with that? Why can we leave that alone and let it be. Here, we have the North that is Communist running against the South that is Democracy and the people are going to vote. What is the chance that people will pick the North Communist to control their country?

Why the fuck does the US have to interfere with Vietnamese Democratic process? Can someone give me a good and intelligence answer for this?

Anonymous said...

I'm v8,now i know the true of vietrat,are talking here!well!!the truce is that the french, could get the job done,so they leave it to the American,to liberate the south free from the north communist,after the American, leave the vietrat, were eating poop!!well now it look like America is kicking ass all over the place agian!only this time we get to enjoy freedom, back then the north were dumb to follow the two Bigest dumb commuinst leader who can't even supported them self.You see it now? between communist,and FreeDom!!!Freedon Rule..!you have anything els to say?if you are!then i'd think you sick ignorant babaric mind thinking nonsent.while at the same time you are hungery for US dollar too.

Anonymous said...

To 11:24PM!

The Communist Russian and Chinese were reaching out to the Vietcong way before the Vietcong defeat the French and arm these Vietcong to the teeth to take over Indochina and make the Viet as the master of Indochina because it is the Vietcong who controlled all the communist movement in Indochina including Cambodia and Laos as well!

Uncle SAM perceived the Vietcong communist movement as threat to the whole Southeast Asia stability and that is why Uncle SAM came up with the Domino Theory Doctrine aiming the destroy the communist from spreading through out South East Asia!

Cambodia paid a heavy price for stopping the Vietcong communist from spreading through out Southeast Asia during the cold war!

By the way the Vietcong in the North have no intention of keeping the peace and they just want to take over the South more than anybody because the South has more fertile land and rich in natural resources that can support the whole Vietcong population in the North and beside the South are economically vibrant than the North and even today!

The North can claim to be the Capitol of Vietname but it is the South that produces all the bread and butter for the Vietcong population as whole and even today the South is the main economic engine that drives the whole Vietcong economy!

Anonymous said...

Nope, after the defeat of the French, the war in Vietnam ended. They were going to vote to let the North or the South to run the country. The French were going to help to setup the election for them. There were no Chinese nor Russian involved in the Vietnamese Democratic election. No one know who's going to win or lose because they never had a chance to vote when the US came to stop the election.

If the US afraid of the commie, why didn't they waited until the commies won the election, then take them out afterward? The commie has no chance. The democrat would have wont by a land slide and their be no destruction.

The only logical answer to this whole tragic is the US came to destroy the area.

Anonymous said...

No it is not US who destroy Indochina! The Vietname War is very similar as the Korean War because even there is a clear divided demilitarized zone and the North Korean communist still invaded the South Korean until American step in to save the South Korean!

It is the US policy who helps curb the communist from spreading to Southeast Asia and now know you why US even support the communist Khmer Rouge to fight the Vietcong occupation of Cambodia!

Fool you fuken brain so fuck up and so limited like a chimp and you never understand anything!

Go eat dog Vietcong mother fucker!

Anonymous said...

There was no Vietnam war before the arrival of the US. Vietnam people were going to Vote to decide who is to control Vietnam, you idiot. The French was there to help set it all up and referee the vote.

There is no reason for the US to be in a peaceful area except to destroy it.

Anonymous said...

"The French was there to help set it all up and referee the vote." This is ridiculous!

The Vietcong were attacking the French for control of Indochina and the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu!

The Vietcong claimed to beat the Chinese army, the Japanese army, the American army, and the French army, and the Khmer Rouge!

The Vietcong beat the Khmer Rouge?! Oh come on! It took the Vietcong for 10 years to eliminate the Khmer Rouge and they couldn’t that is why the Vietcong withdraw from Cambodia!

So much for the Vietcong invincibility! Well, tough no more all you fucken Vietcong!
Now the fucken Vietcong government wants to show their Vietcong population that they are tough by takes Cambodian land through illegal border treaty!

These fucken Vietcong leaders are sicko!

Anonymous said...

I'm v8,yeah...these vietrat they are barbaric,I just hope the westerner doesen't get suck in like the French,do during the colonal time.I have a message to all khmer people and khmer kampuchea krom,we're have to fight them with their own baebaric ways.because they'r known as a thief,crook,a backstamper and a lier.

Anonymous said...

4:32, just because the French surrendered to the Vietminh, it does mean they left immediately. What do you think this is, Long Beach gang war or something? The French can stay to help restore some the damages, forming the government,...,
and the North and South agreed to let the French be their referee to the vote.

Anonymous said...

To 12:52PM!

What? The French were embarrassed and they pack their shit and left for good! So what is the fucken point for the French to stay to be a PRISONER OF WAR? Ahahahhahahah!

Oh! What is Long Beach gang war? What the fuck is this? No said anything about gangster? Do you know what the fuck you are talking about? Shaking my head!

Please just shut the fuck up!

Anonymous said...

No, the French did not pack their shit and run out. That will be a mistake. All the prisoners of war could be executed. It is best for the French to stay and sign official treaties and agreements ... . Then they can take all their people out from prison with them... . Plus, this will also allowed the French to continue trades with IndoChina in the future ... .

And stop try to twist history, will you? We all know the US was there to create problems and destroyed the region. Only your stupid westerners PhD would think otherwise.

Anonymous said...

To 9:39PM

Go eat dog!