Forced evacuation of Phnom Penh on 17 April 1975Heng Reaksmey, VOA Khmer
Exclusive Interview from Phnom Penh
15 October 2007
[Editor's note: Head of state and spokesman for the Khmer Rouge when it rose to power, Khieu Samphan is widely believed under investigation by the special tribunal courts for trial on atrocity crimes. On Oct. 11, he gave VOA Khmer his longest interview since the indictments of two of his comrades, chief ideologue Nuon Chea and torture center director Duch. This is the final part of a five-part series.]
Khieu Samphan denied any knowledge about the decision to evacuate everyone from cities and towns on April 17, 1975.
"I did not know when the decision about the evacuation was made," he told VOA Khmer. "It was done very secretly."
The former nominal head of the regime, who could face indictment by the genocide tribunal said he knew nothing of widespread starvation and mass killing under the regime.
"Like I said before, I only stayed in one place, that is at the headquarters of the Democratic Kampuchea" in Phnom Penh, he said. "Don't just believe that the Khmer Rouge starved people. You have to do more research to find the truth."
Khieu Samphan admitted that Pol Pot had agreed "to arrest some people" after consulting with the Standing Committee of the communist regime, "but he did not go to arrest people in the fields."
The Khmer Rouge suffered from "warlords" in different zones, he said. "They were abusing power and did their own arrests and killings. That's why there was confusion, revenge, jealousy, and attempts [by them] to uproot one another.
"They did not follow any rules," he said. "They arrested people they did not like."
Khieu Samphan denied any knowledge about the decision to evacuate everyone from cities and towns on April 17, 1975.
"I did not know when the decision about the evacuation was made," he told VOA Khmer. "It was done very secretly."
The former nominal head of the regime, who could face indictment by the genocide tribunal said he knew nothing of widespread starvation and mass killing under the regime.
"Like I said before, I only stayed in one place, that is at the headquarters of the Democratic Kampuchea" in Phnom Penh, he said. "Don't just believe that the Khmer Rouge starved people. You have to do more research to find the truth."
Khieu Samphan admitted that Pol Pot had agreed "to arrest some people" after consulting with the Standing Committee of the communist regime, "but he did not go to arrest people in the fields."
The Khmer Rouge suffered from "warlords" in different zones, he said. "They were abusing power and did their own arrests and killings. That's why there was confusion, revenge, jealousy, and attempts [by them] to uproot one another.
"They did not follow any rules," he said. "They arrested people they did not like."
12 comments:
"Like I said before, I only stayed in one place, that is at the headquarters of the Democratic Kampuchea" in Phnom Penh, ..."
This sound like a self contradiction. If he stay in Phnom Penh, then he would known about the evacuation. Thus the evacuation was not secretly done.
LOL, when you get out of the headquater and it was a gosh town, how can you not know that the city was evacuated?
What is an idiot?
This is a lie. Who broadcasted the order over the radio, it was a secret?
Try again,fool
The Master of Neo-Genocidal of Cambodians:
Brief of Hard Factual evens: Continue...
Situation of the communist side:
The Yuon Communist Party was founded in 1930, under the name of " Communist Party of Indochina "[C.P.I].
Yuon Viêtminh become Yuon Viêtcông, abbreviation : [NVA/VC//NFL] their main goal are to seize the territories of the other countries.
They are extremely thinking the opposite from any other asian countries. If they move towards from north they’ll run up against [Thailand] and [Laos] they through, if towards the west, they run up against the montagnards. Consequently, they’ve chosen to move towards the south. Since they having "swallowed" Champa, they arrived at Kampuchea Krom and "swallowed" Kampuchea Krom.
Since 1930-45-54, in order to carry out these strategic political programs, Yuon Communist prepared their forces and formed their frameworks successively, and send them to work in Laos and Cambodia, leaded by Nguyên Thanh.
Therefore, they moved towards the North-West, towards Cambodia, by using their Lucrative strategies of massive installation forces for their insurgency by launching their initial polical operations in the provinces of Stung Trèng, Ratanakiri, Mondulriki, Kratié, Kampong Cham, Svay Rieng, Prey Véng, Kandal, Takeo and Kampot, Koh Kong, Pursat, until Kampong Chhnang and around a Great Lakes of Tonlé Sap, those massive installations forces were the main Yuon Communist attacks forces, who have owned safe haven sanctuaries in Cambodia.
Furthermore, they used these forces to attack into American’s Bases in South Viêtnam and run back to hide in their owned safe haven sanctuaries in Cambodia.
In 1965, there were 150,000 Yuon [Viêtcôngs] installed in Cambodia on a depth from 12 to 15 kilometers inside the border, at Romeas Hèk (province of Svay Rieng) and wide spread until Ratanakiri, which’s the area known as " Tail of Naga ", in the extreme quiet of North-East of Cambodia.
In 1966, they send another wave, with the amount up to 200,000 Yuon [Viêtcông] and it further increased in 1967-68-69.
The Committee of “Quang Duc” was installed 150,000 in Koh Nhêk, in the province of Ratanakiri of Cambodia.
In 1970, the number of Viêtcông installed in Cambodia has gradually reached up to 1,5 to 2 million.
Towards the end of 1969, delegations from Hanoi whose name: Lê Duan, Lê Duke Thô, Vô Nguyên Giap and Nguyên Duy Trinh.
Lê Duan said: "According to viêtnamese experiment , kampuchea should not carry out the armed struggle. It is better that the comrades of Kampuchea await until Viêtnam victory in south viêtname first, and viêtnam will strikes Lon Nol of only one blow, and viêtnam will liberate Phnom Penh for comrades kampuchea."
Yuon Hanoi, Lê Duan wanted to lead the Communist Party of Kampuchea and establish relationships to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. It reported that the Soviet ambassador in Hanoi wished to meet the delegation of the Communist Party of Kampuchea to pay a visit to Moscow.
Thus, before the coup d'etat, on march 9-10-11, 1970 the Yuon Viêtcông had used their strategies as the following stage:
1- Make Prince Norodom Sihanouk go to war with Lon Nol.
2- Infiltrated viêtnamese and clandestine networks into the rows of high ranking officials of the revolution of Kampuchea.
3- Used their Viêtnamese national inside of Kampuchea to control and to become the local government. [with armed]. to be cont....
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The Master of Neo-Genocidal of Cambodians:
Situation from Yuon Hanoi to [FARK]:
On 24th May 1969 Lon Nol meet with Yuon Hanoi representatives Nguyên Thuöng and the NFL delegate Nguyên Van Hieü. The purpose of this meeting was to tell the [NVA/VC/NFL] to stop from committing violation against Cambodia territory, violations which were frequent and becoming more and more serious aggressive on Cambodia. Yuon Viêtcông Enemy simply ignored Cambodia’s request.
In early march 1970, since [NVA/VC/NFL] forces continued to exert pressure on the local Khmer people in Svay Rieng to manifest their dissatisfaction toward the intruders. These popular manifestations met with relations from the enemy and resulted in heavy casualties.
On 11-12 march 1970, the [NVA/VC/NFL] demonstrating once again Yuon viêtcông’s skillful use of propagandas and guiles and deceptions to provoked a widespread feeling of discontent among the people which cuminated in destructive rampages against the [NVA/VC/NFL] and [PRG] embassies in Phnom Penh.
to be cont....
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It appears that Khieu Samphan has already incriminated Hanoi, but VOA seems to toy and spin it with the translation...
The Master of Neo-Genocidal of Cambodians:
Brief of Hard Factual evens: Continue...
Situation of the communist side:
After the coup d'etat of March 18, 1970, the Yuon Viêtcông living in Cambodia were armed by Hanoi and used like instruments, with particularly wild oppression against the Cambodian. The local people hated them, and called them
" the Viêtnamese of local manufacture ".
These Viêtnamese nationals living in Cambodia, showed themselves infinitely, fiercely, crueler in their repression than their brothers from North Vietnam, because they knew the Khmer’s language and the Khmer’s inhabitants.
They persecuted the khmer’s population during their shadow powered year .This factor is found in the Viêtnamese history, since the time of feudality, and it weighs much heavier as the current time.
As they made the revolution, the Viêtnamese enjoyed a certain prestige in Southeast Asia. At that time, the international community, they're granted assistances and supports. Europe supported. China and Soviet helped and supported. The Viêtnamese benefited from all these supports, which is make their political strongest supports in order to implement and executed their complex plans of expansion and annexation and to swallow Cambodia.
They wanted to dominate the whole "Indochina". They wanted to be posed as "father" if not "big brother" of "Indochina".
(I'll be continued....these evens of each location/ province)
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I recognize you were anominal head of state of the DK. But don't pretend you were AH PHLEU who knew nothing.
Just take this one case; Evacuation of people from phnom penh. if you se your brain, you can imagine how many vulnerable people died: sick people, old people, pregnant women, children...
It was much more than like Sodome and Gomore!
You might not know some but not all. AH pHLEU!Doctor en droit de Paris!
A survuivor of the KR genocide.
If you all don't learn from the pass history, you all will be the most suffering in the future.
look at cambodia today? yuon every where, those yuon will take over your country very soon, without notice! and the world only see they are Khmer.
Yuon speak khmer very well as you are now. Look at yuon embassy Trinh Ba Cam? have you ever concern
at all?
If you don't, it's your choice!
Wrong, those are not Yuons, but Ah Khmer-Yuons, and there are no such thing as Yuons speak Khmer very well. Only Ah Khmer-Yuons can do that.
Shut the fuck up, you idiot (11:14).
wHY YOU GET SO ANGRY 7:16PM, ARE YOU AH youn vER VIETNAMESE KILLER?
This idiot Khieu Samphan is a real liar.
Some people said he is an intellectual but i never understand what he says on tv (maybe he spoke in vietnamese).
Cambodia has only traitors leaders who lie all the time such as Sihanouk and Hun Sen.
Those khmers traitors must be condamned harshly.
Tehy will have no place to live.
Well, well, well, I can see the real Yuon @2:12Am. Ah yuon, you born to be myst in other country, The thief, the invader, Yes, I've known Trinh Ba Cam. It is a real yuon Vai. Living in Cambodia since 1954 You DumbF*.
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