Photo of those who went to meet Sok An (Photo published by Angkor Borei News)
Richer San and Sithea San, his wife. Richer San claims that he will provide a car for the corrupt Sok An to parade in the Cambodia Town's 2008 Cambodian New Year parade.Deputy prime minister plans to appear in New Year Parade in Long Beach.
12/26/2007
By Greg Mellen, Staff writer
Long Beach Press Telegram (Long Beach, California, USA)
LONG BEACH - A planned appearance by Cambodian Deputy Prime Minister Sok An at next year's Cambodian New Year Parade in Long Beach has stirred controversy and is threatening to open old wounds in the Cambodian community.
In his home country, Sok An is the right-hand man of Prime Minister Hun Sen and the ruling Cambodian People's Party. Earlier this month, he accepted an invitation to attend next year's New Year celebration from a delegation from Long Beach visiting Phnom Penh. The contingent included representatives of several ethnic and civic groups including Cambodia Town Inc., Long Beach Sister Cities, the Cambodian Coordinating Council and the Cambodia New Year Parade.
News of Sok An's planned attendance has brought emotional response from members of the Cambodian community in Long Beach who oppose the Hun Sen government.
In an effort to stop the visit, a petition has been launched protesting the deputy prime minister's appearance.
Anthony Ly, editor of the Angkor Borei News, which will print copies of the petition in its Dec. 31 editions, says he hopes to meet with Mayor Bob Foster in January to present the signatures.
There was confusion about whether Foster formally invited Sok An to attend the parade.
Evan Braude, an attorney and former Long Beach city councilman who was part of the delegation, said that wasn't the case.
Braude said he had been asked by Foster to extend greetings in general to groups the delegation met. Foster had planned to go on the trip, but had to bow out because of an eye infection.
"There was no specific invitation to a specific person," Braude said. "It was just a general invitation to anyone who wanted to attend. That's the main thrust."
Braude added that formal invitations to visiting heads of state and their representatives are handled by the federal government, and the visit by the Long Beach delegation wasn't even an official city visit.
However, Richer San, a Long Beach delegate, confirmed that an invitation was made, formal or not, and Sok An accepted.
He added that if Sok An decides to join the parade, he will be provided with a car to ride in and banners identifying him.
Braude noted that in past years other political figures have been part of the parade, including Pok Than, a former minister of education in Cambodia with ties to Long Beach.
Opponents say bringing someone of Sok An's stature, however, ups the ante.
Ly, who said he already has 20 to 30 signatures, called Sok An "the most corrupt man in Hun Sen's government."
He added that local residents oppose the deputy prime minister's involvement because of the Cambodian government's long history of human rights violations, corruption and a laundry list of other misdeeds.
As an example, Ly pointed to a recent visit by United Nations human rights envoy Yash Ghai. After Ghai's contentious 10-day fact-finding mission, the BBC reported the envoy said, "Cambodia's government was not committed to human rights, and power had been too centralised (sic) around `one individual,"' referring to Hun Sen.
The BBC reported that Hun Sen responded by calling Ghai "deranged."
San says Ly was an opponent of the New Year Parade since its inception. While he supported Ly's right to hold a different opinion, he said Cambodian Americans need to put homeland politics aside.
Although he sought to remain somewhat neutral and removed from the controversy, Cambodian activist Paline Soth said many residents see Sok An as representing an oppressive regime and will see his appearance as extending the reach and influence into Long Beach.
"They believe they fled the country to leave an oppressive government and be independent and be subject to the law and order of Long Beach," Soth said.
About his own feelings, Soth says he believes it is OK for Cambodians to attend the parade as private citizens, but adds, "I would be critical of anyone using the parade for their own agenda."
Braude, who hopes to diffuse any tension, said, "We're not here to play politics, right or wrong."
However, homeland politics and old hurts and alliances still simmer just below the surface in Long Beach's Cambodian community.
This was never more evident than in 2005, when Cambodians divided sharply and bitterly over the inaugural New Year Parade. Initially scheduled for April 17, the date Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge rose to power and unleashed the Killing Fields reign of terror that left about 1.7 million Cambodians dead, the parade issue gashed the community along old party lines.
Although Hun Sen and his Cambodian People's Party have been democratically elected in recent years, since the coup he led in 1997, the prime minister is still a lightning rod of dissent stateside.
Soth is among those who fear that an appearance by Hun Sen's top aide could be disastrous.
"There's a silent majority out there watching," Soth said, "and at the snap of a finger, this is an issue that could ignite them."
12/26/2007
By Greg Mellen, Staff writer
Long Beach Press Telegram (Long Beach, California, USA)
LONG BEACH - A planned appearance by Cambodian Deputy Prime Minister Sok An at next year's Cambodian New Year Parade in Long Beach has stirred controversy and is threatening to open old wounds in the Cambodian community.
In his home country, Sok An is the right-hand man of Prime Minister Hun Sen and the ruling Cambodian People's Party. Earlier this month, he accepted an invitation to attend next year's New Year celebration from a delegation from Long Beach visiting Phnom Penh. The contingent included representatives of several ethnic and civic groups including Cambodia Town Inc., Long Beach Sister Cities, the Cambodian Coordinating Council and the Cambodia New Year Parade.
News of Sok An's planned attendance has brought emotional response from members of the Cambodian community in Long Beach who oppose the Hun Sen government.
In an effort to stop the visit, a petition has been launched protesting the deputy prime minister's appearance.
Anthony Ly, editor of the Angkor Borei News, which will print copies of the petition in its Dec. 31 editions, says he hopes to meet with Mayor Bob Foster in January to present the signatures.
There was confusion about whether Foster formally invited Sok An to attend the parade.
Evan Braude, an attorney and former Long Beach city councilman who was part of the delegation, said that wasn't the case.
Braude said he had been asked by Foster to extend greetings in general to groups the delegation met. Foster had planned to go on the trip, but had to bow out because of an eye infection.
"There was no specific invitation to a specific person," Braude said. "It was just a general invitation to anyone who wanted to attend. That's the main thrust."
Braude added that formal invitations to visiting heads of state and their representatives are handled by the federal government, and the visit by the Long Beach delegation wasn't even an official city visit.
However, Richer San, a Long Beach delegate, confirmed that an invitation was made, formal or not, and Sok An accepted.
He added that if Sok An decides to join the parade, he will be provided with a car to ride in and banners identifying him.
Braude noted that in past years other political figures have been part of the parade, including Pok Than, a former minister of education in Cambodia with ties to Long Beach.
Opponents say bringing someone of Sok An's stature, however, ups the ante.
Ly, who said he already has 20 to 30 signatures, called Sok An "the most corrupt man in Hun Sen's government."
He added that local residents oppose the deputy prime minister's involvement because of the Cambodian government's long history of human rights violations, corruption and a laundry list of other misdeeds.
As an example, Ly pointed to a recent visit by United Nations human rights envoy Yash Ghai. After Ghai's contentious 10-day fact-finding mission, the BBC reported the envoy said, "Cambodia's government was not committed to human rights, and power had been too centralised (sic) around `one individual,"' referring to Hun Sen.
The BBC reported that Hun Sen responded by calling Ghai "deranged."
San says Ly was an opponent of the New Year Parade since its inception. While he supported Ly's right to hold a different opinion, he said Cambodian Americans need to put homeland politics aside.
Although he sought to remain somewhat neutral and removed from the controversy, Cambodian activist Paline Soth said many residents see Sok An as representing an oppressive regime and will see his appearance as extending the reach and influence into Long Beach.
"They believe they fled the country to leave an oppressive government and be independent and be subject to the law and order of Long Beach," Soth said.
About his own feelings, Soth says he believes it is OK for Cambodians to attend the parade as private citizens, but adds, "I would be critical of anyone using the parade for their own agenda."
Braude, who hopes to diffuse any tension, said, "We're not here to play politics, right or wrong."
However, homeland politics and old hurts and alliances still simmer just below the surface in Long Beach's Cambodian community.
This was never more evident than in 2005, when Cambodians divided sharply and bitterly over the inaugural New Year Parade. Initially scheduled for April 17, the date Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge rose to power and unleashed the Killing Fields reign of terror that left about 1.7 million Cambodians dead, the parade issue gashed the community along old party lines.
Although Hun Sen and his Cambodian People's Party have been democratically elected in recent years, since the coup he led in 1997, the prime minister is still a lightning rod of dissent stateside.
Soth is among those who fear that an appearance by Hun Sen's top aide could be disastrous.
"There's a silent majority out there watching," Soth said, "and at the snap of a finger, this is an issue that could ignite them."
73 comments:
We, Cambodian people, should refuse Sok An like Sok An/CPP refuses Prof. Yash Ghai.
These members of the delegation who went to Cambodia recently did not represent the wills of Cambodian-Americans in Long Beach and surrounding areas. They did not even inform their own organizations. The board directors of their organizations were not informed and they were not approved to do that mission.
Most of the people were caught by surprise.
We have to boycott these people from doing these things again.
Stop doing business with these people. Boycott their businesses.
Their headquarter are centalized at a building across the street from Khun Heng Market above Bamboo Restaurant.
Show your support by going overthere with a sign of protest every day at lunch time.
Cambodian's Gossip
I'd like to provide truck load of an extra soft Kleenex tissue to Mr/Mrs San for wipe off their noses.
Want big roll of CHARMIN???....
Cha! Cha! Cha!
When something good is about to happen, someone out there just want to fuck everything up. Fuck it! We never like our own people.
Let's kill each other.
Cambodian community of Long Beach can't separated politic away from their mind.Sok An represent a corropted govertment of Hun Sen and he is the most corrupted in the country.From central valley i like to donated a truck load of tomatoes to mr san to match with 4:01 with a truck load soft Kleenex.
dont allow cpp into the country they are bad people with the worst intentions. why would anyone want to invite someone who oppresses his own people and have no respect for human rights into the country. if he comes, i will throw rocks at him to make him leave.
Fuck all Cambodians!
We should send everyone of you into yet another "killing fields," if all of fucked up people like you chose to behave like a child.
6:26PM,
It must hard for your parents?
Poor soul
Hello sharp shooter>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
4:22 and 6:26, I don't believe you understand unity...It is not Khmer are willing to kill khmer as both of you allude to regarding this subject. I don't think we hate Sok An personally, but rather we don't like his political representation in Srok Khmer. Therefore, we take this opportunity to express ours opinions. What perception will it bring to Khmer communities by Sok An attending the parade? I wish both of you will reconsider of your thoughts expressed here.
Khmer Abroad.
A friend of mine overheard Mr. San said that Cambodian-Americans in Long Beach are somewhat stupid. Some of them are new rich, illiterate, and want their names placed somewhere. So He will build a small wall in the street to place their names for $5,000 per name.
Ha ha ha ... It's a good deal
To solve our Khmer long-decade complicated issues, Hun Sen must be assassinated. Benazir Bhutto has just been fataly shot, but she is one of the great politicians in Pakistan. She dies with her honor. By constrast, Hun Sen is a ditatorship. His blood and DNA are Khmer, but he is leading our country to serve a foreign intest, Vietnam. He is a traitor, and thus, he deserves to be assassinated.
TO LONG BEACH RESIDENTS and VICINITY:
NO VIOLENCE but what you can do: Identify which car he is in, then You can greeting SOK AN with Smelly and rotten eggs, holding posted & condemmed strongest words signs that can his nerve along the roads that the parade will be taken place.
He can't accept humiliation and people who invite him will suffer huge embarrassment.
You can form a human chain protest in front his car. The car must speed not more than 5-7 miles an hour for the parade. All you need is your determination, you can express your dissatisfaction in USA without fear.
8:22 PM
I could careless what you do, as long as you don't bring any insurgents into the United States. We should not have problems tracking the bad guys. After all, this is our own backyard.
Remember: Don't spoil the newly town. If things get out of hand, we'll yank your leader of the new town.
Hi,
Whose are these stupid couple, Richer San and Sothea San?. May be Sok An treated them like a royal when they visited Cambodia. That's why they sided with CPP like Hun Sen and Sok An.
For the comment of Khmer Abroad, you think Sok An might change his attitude or policy toward Cambodia and her people. You're wrong my friend. This guy has been visiting too many countries like his boss, but he did the same thing to Cambodia. Steal land, encroach land to Vietnam, killing opponents, beat up Khmer Krom monks, etc...
Let the guy come, then we throw eggs and tomatos on him to let him know welcome to Long Beach with eggs and tomatos. We don't hate Khmer but we don't want to support individual who betrays Khmer people and her country.
Bring alot of rotten tomato and drow at him to show the world of how we love him!
Recently, I've spoken with Mr. Sok about his forthcoming visit to the United States. He also informed me that he might have to do above-face of his visit due to security concerns.
"Certainly, when it comes to the worst, I might have to cancel the trip," he said over the phone.
As of today, things are already turned ugly.
Until then ... stay tuned.
Please do not use raw eggs to throw at this poor guy (you will ruin his $5,000 suit); instead, please do boil these eggs first.
Count me in for throwing at this BAD GUY. HE's not welcome to USA at all.
This rich couple wanted to bring communist contagous disease to Long
Beach for their own personal gain,tell them they both go to hell,we do not need the Viet agent that try to turn our country to youn is here,prepare for the worst.
It look like Long Beach need 2 or 3 trucks load of tomatos to get enough to welcome Sok An.From Stockton we donated 2 tons of tomatos for this receiption.We like all Cambodian people but we hate Sok An.
I would suggest the Long Beach board, Cambodian town must resign from the board, now.
And Ly Diep's group must stop their criminal acts. Try to do something good for people. You know well how you cheated people in the past. Why don't you write how you cheated Long Beach people?
I cannot believe the Khmer community in Long Beach let the bastard YOUN Sok An arrived safely in the Long Beach and no one protest about that.
I have a friend who know most of the relatives of Sok An in Vietnam. I even can name his ralatives here. If Cambodian let him attend Cambodian New Year Parades in Long Beach, man, I dont know what to say to our Cambodian in Long Beach.
I heard that Ly Diep is a very patriotic man who usually write against Shihanouk in his newspaper, why dont he does something against Sok An or he just against Shihanouk, but not against CPP leaders.
Richer San and Sithea San, his wife. Richer San using LB to make a name for themselves. They're saying to the people of LB, "fukc all of you". Throwing tomato and eggs is too good for THEM. Throw dirty diapers at them instead. We can eat the tomato and eggs.
By Sok An coming to LB, he's staring all of you in the face and saying to all of your ancestor that" I can kill your mother,father, sister, brother etc... " and now I'm in a parade, whose your daddy now?
I'm not going to this parade. I'll go if they give me tomato, dirt diapers, or eggs to throw at sok an and that stupid couple in the picture.
We should send a footage of Prime Minister Hun Sen's cursing and degrading Kenyan government and its country to see what their reaction to Hun Sen's comment.
I will try to go to Kenyan website and post this footage on their government website, and wait and see if his comment spark some fire from their people and government.
1:58AM, can you find a tomato by you own? Coward!!!!
Ly Diep, James Sok and cronies..screw'em all!!!
Only plan to join parade in LB, Sok An make community there in trouble now. This is a real powerful person. Why Khmer community in LB is entrapped with this kind of power?
We know something or someone has power or not, we just see interaction from one person or object to another. If impacts or forces happen to surrounding environment then, power is available.
Khmer community in LB now is receiving power from one person who has never controled or led LB community at all. Some people claimed themsevles of not associating with CPP or Mr. Sok An or hate him, but explicitly received or absorbed influence through worrying of his plan in parade.
Not to receive or give Mr. Sok An power, Khmer community in LB should disengage themselves from him and not give him previlege of interaction with community. I am sure his plan is not just the parade but also political agenda to attract or destroy political interest groups. He is very happy to see LB community in this broken situation and he will prefer to join if LB community still has problem like this.
8:43 p.m. , you wrote
"A friend of mine overheard Mr. San said that Cambodian-Americans in Long Beach are somewhat stupid. Some of them are new rich, illiterate, and want their names placed somewhere. So He will build a small wall in the street to place their names for $5,000 per name.
Ha ha ha ... It's a good deal
8:43 PM"
And Richer San and his wife are not
new rich? His name (Richer)already says "new rich?. If Richer San thinks Cambodians in LB are stupid, etc, ask him whether he and his partners opened a bank to take advantage of the people he called stupid.
548AM,
Ly Diep supports Cambodia Town and delightful with annual parade as long as it was not on April 17,a mourning day for victims family not just in Long Beach but everywhere.
Ly Diep is definitely against the corupted people and royal bastards especially opportunists in Long Beach who disrespected the memory of 17 April 1975 victims.
Ly Diep and friends want to establish Killing Fields Memorial Center for Khmer victims and surviving families in Long Beach area.
He is a man of his own conviction to protect majority principles.
hahaha, don't hold your breath 6:20AM, they will soon join the Viet and CPP. You'll see!
Yeap 6:39AM, just as this SAN family has been. They are all opportunists.
I am at a lost after reading this article about Cambodian leaders in Long Beach who are willing to recognize the CPP leadership to come to Long Beach!
This is not the issue of who hate what! This is not the issue about Khmer hate Khmer! This is the issue of morality! Cambodian people have the right to hold any Cambodian leader to high standard of morality!
Most Cambodian people knew the Cambodian People Party (CPP) which came to power since 1979 installed by the Vietcong government as a puppet government! For thirty years the CPP run Cambodia to the ground and promoting the illness and the misery in Cambodian society and even today with all the corruption, the human right abused, the economic enslavement, and the oppression are beyond words to describe!
By giving the recognition to the deputy Prime Minister Sok An which is to give more ground to immorality!
For me after seeing Cambodian monks get kicked and beaten with electric batons like a dog for peaceful protest and I am done with Sok An leadership!
The City of Long Beach has no place for immoral person such as Sok An and the rest of his clan and he can stay where he belongs!
What is the use of bringing this monkey Sok An to USA anyways. Why don't khmers in LB kick this San couple's ass now ????
From Canada
People in Longbeach should be felt shamefull to invite animal like Sok An to be their VIP guest. This animal shouldn't even be invited for any Cambodian local tradition celebration. He deserve to be hanged for his betrayal of Cambodian souverity and integrity. For us in France, we will not invite this kind of animal to join us. It will spoil our dignity and our integrity.
I like to hear the other side of the story! I would like all the pro- Hun Sen Cambodian leaders in Long Beach to explain their position why do they choose to deal with corrupted Hun Sen government?
-Is this about personal enrichment!
-Is this about promoting business contact between Long Beach and Cambodia and establishing business network?
-Is this about introducing Hun Sen government to the way things are done in Long Beach?
-...
I don't want to play mind reader here and it would be nice if these pro-Hun Sen Cambodian leaders in Long Beach can clear up some misunderstanding here.
Ah Sok Anh is a yuon top organizer for vietcong in Srok Kirivong since 1968 (Special Internal yuon's agent) to be ready for yuon invaded Cambodia and to stay for ever.....
Good luck "Richer San" and family
Maybe Sok Anh gives you a title as
Oknha very soon.
Khmer Cali
Why throwing aggs or tomato at him? Just throw a granad instead !!! I meant to say a fake granad to scare this guy to pee on his pan.
Shameful, shameful to Richer San, are you stupid or not stupid? Do you think Khmer people are stupid or yourself are stupid? I can see that you will not get anything good from this but you will get a very bad thing from it. You are a good business man you are rich, you and your wife must have been very smart in your business. But you are stupid in judging Khmer people incorrectly. One more thing maybe you have a bad habit from your family line of dishonest and deceiptive to Khmer people and that will bring you disgraced. You are destroying yourself if you do not stop and honestly confess from the bottom of your heart to the public.
This fucker Richer San is also the Chairman of the city of Long Beach.
Fuck you Richer San.
Shuhh do not say loudly,his wife may hear it about his f...... business in Long Beach
I love to spend a night with his wife (if Mr. San does not mind).
This clown is in charge of the new town in Long Beach. What a joke.
It appears that this guy and his wife will soon need bodyguard (s) in Long Beach.
Boy! There are a lot of starving gangs in Long Beach.
Needless to say, this time -- the man (Mr. San) has irresolutely and solely made the wrong decision for his personal gain.
Be careful: there are a lot of loose cannons in Long Beach.
You have made the wrong decision.
If this clown come here next year's Cambodian New Year Parade in Long Beach. Its would be a mess.First if Sok An here, he would reminde me of Communist Regime, Murder Regime, Curropted Regime. Any Khmer policticians would not suite for this event. An ordinary Khmer people make the Cambodian New Year parade happend. Not this CPP rat. So, please do something to stop this crook to set his feet in LB. And to Richer San, you are a creepy germ to Khmer people.
Sichan Siv is a good friend of mine.
Graduated from the University of Columbia with a master in Internation Affairs. He's also a private pilot.
The Bush's family must have liked him a lot. Mr. Sichan's personality and likeability and charisma led to his success.
At one time, I was personally disappointingly upset when he did not receive the appointment to Cambodia as the ambassador during the Bush 41). Of course, because Bush 41 did not get re-elected. Had he get elected for the second term, Mr. Sichan would have been the FIRST Cambodia-born ambassador to Cambodia.
As per the invitation of Mr. Sok An to participate in the upcoming parade -- I would highely iffy if he (Mr. Sichan) has anything to say about this.
More importantly, remember Sok An's daughter was married to Hun Sen's son. Now, you know their connection.
Mr. San and his wife -- as far as I know and understand -- will do anything to kowtow Mr. Sok An and the current government for their personal gains, disregard the welfare of the stricken and csh-strapped country.
I'm quite certain that Mr. San and his wife are unbashed of their complicity and involvement. That said, this is a shameful and dispecable for the Long Beach community to have Mr. San representing the new Cambodian Town.
Signed..................
Richer San, bad chioce dude. "This is United States of America". Let me translated for you."It means people power". If you want to be a big curropted crook government personal with CPP move back to CaMBODIA. USA has no place for people like you.
Signed....7:50 PM
Correction:
csh-strapped = cash-strapped
unbashed = unabashed
highely = highly
YOU ARE IN BIG TROUBLE SAN, AN, HAN WHAT EVER YOUR NAME!
THAT A WRONG MOVE, LET SEE WHAT SOK ANN MADE OF? COWARD OR A BRAVE CPP?
iF I WAS HIM I WOULD SHOW UP TO SEE WHAT THE LONG BEACH REALY FEEL FOR THE GREAT CPP GOVERNMENT AND THIS THE OPEN ROAD FOR HUN XEN TO COME NEXT YEAR!
VIVA CPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To 9:50PM
You worry over your grammar mistake! Ahhahhahhahh!
Hey! There are many way to write the English language and thank you for showing me one of your ways! Ahahahah
Who are Richer San and Sithea San.
Can anybody post his biography.
I heard he used to work for UCC a collapsed Cambodian Organization in Long Beach. He was fired in around 1993.
Then He moved to Cambodia to work for Royal Air Cambodge. He screwed up so much that Pan Chantra, his boss, decided to fire him around 2000 or 2001.
He moved back to Long Beach and live there. Nobody knows what is his real job right now. He help to open a losing "Cambodian" Bank with an asset of approximately 6 million dollars. based on the report published lately the new bank lost about 50% of its assets after its first year of operation. So it will go down the tube. People want to help the "Cambodian" Bank but they don't like the San's couple.
Cambodian's gossip
1:59 AM
That would explain why this idiotic-asshole kisser will do anything to regain his loss.
If they have good intention not to disrupt any part of the parade, every Cambodian should be able to participate regardless of their associations. Besides, this is Cambodia Town. Cambodia means Cambodian.
Looks like someone here tries playing neutrality to downplay the posibility of escalation of violence in the upcoming parade.
The truth of the matter is political affiliation is dangerously different from others.
Also, in fact, Mr. San has set a very bad example for the Cambodian community.
Not everyone here in this forum would agree with you; they're all practically against the invitation of Mr. Sok An to participate in the parade.
It is my sincere hope that Mr. Sichan Siv does not side with Mr. San, otherwise he will hear from me personally.
Bottom line this is real democracy.
There is some people who would like to invite Mr. An to come, and there some who do not not like him to come. Both are OK to express their belief.
Cambodia Town, Inc., I believe is a non-profit organization. If they do something that promote political environment or bias, it's against the status of the organization. And it is no longer a non-profit organization.
What else do you need to understand that Mr. San is not linked to the dictatorial regime. All the evidence is arguably pointing toward that direction.
My recommendation and suggestion to the non-profit organization board members to look into this allegation seriously.
The fact of the matter is Mr. San should remove himself from this organzation before he further damage the organization.
Also, the Cambodian community of Long Beach leaders should surmon an emergency meeting abouth this accusations against Mr. San.
It is my sincere hope that the board members will not overlook the concerned matter for the sake of the Cambodian community.
Dear Cambodians in long beach.
I read all 55 com.I found it is very complicated in term of letting cpp official visit Long Beach.
I 'm not sure if it is good thing to let them visit.I know it hard to take after the puppet gov has been destroying our country almost 30 years under vietnam's influence.
vietnam has been using dirty tricks to separate our Cambodians for so long and yet very successful,my question is,should we let them visit? and we try to talk openly face to face about our heart toward our nation issues and the messages could be delivered to the main figure in Phnom Penh.This way may be more appropriate then we have no
talk at all.We are in the democratic world,we should use and show them what about the freedom is .We should looking for both side benefits, not the anger or revenge,this way we might get away from the outsider's tactics.
Anyone who is affiliated with the bulldozer's dictatorial regime must be ousted of community. Also, they do not deserve to sit on the board.
Be aware: Mr. San, I know plenty of your background. You're just a small parasite (you're not part of the political elite circle) of your preferred regimme.
Moreover, I have to concur with the rest of the people in this forum that they are categorically and unflinchingly against your move to invite Mr. Sok for this upcoming parade predicated on your personal gain. You have made a major blunder. Moreover, on the behalf of Khmer Intelligence forum we will hold you for your dispecable and unabashed action in which you are about to undertake.
Khmer forever! Yuon out of Cambodia!
Regardless of his association with Vietnam, The Cambodian's government is still The Cambodian Government. Mr. Sok An is still Khmer. He comes from Cambodia Majority of us at home vote for them. The royal family & The Hun Sen government is still representing Khmer or us. Mr. US Ambassador is still in Cambodia. We stil have peace to maintain. We know, it's such a confusion and so much of conflict of interest. That's included Mr & Mrs. San and our best man Mr. SiChan Siv. Would you say no to King Norodom Sihamoni's invitation to visit The Cambodian palace? Probably not. He still our King. Mr. Sok An is the most unwanted man in our heart, but until he & his present government are voting out of the office, there is very little that we can do to deny his visit or sit on one of those as..kisser people's car. Right now, we'll have to just swallow sand..o.k everybody?. Let it goes..it's not worth it. We'll get him and his slizzy Gov out in 2008 thru our votes. That is the real deal and let's make it happen!
Who wants to go to that Parade? Now that it's more / less of that A..hole's parade. Guess what America is a free country. Don't want to see that a..hole'face? We can do whatever we want with our day. Let's that A..hole goes to the parade by himself!!!!!!!!!!!
Asshole!!! why does he has to come and ruin everybody else's life?!!!!!!That MF*cker..should stay at home!
9:47 PM
It never occurred to me or the rest of Cambodian community that Mr. know-it-all (Mr. Sichan)is Mr. best man. You must have highly admired this person (I don't blame you with your background).
Moreover, who told you that Mr. Sok was elected by the people; certainly, he was not elected by the people. Here is a misapprehension by your uncorroberated fact: Mr. Sok was appointed by his body (the bulldozer 'Hun Sen') -- he was never gets elected by the people.
Also, your best man (Mr. Sichan) would not have made it where he is right now without his spouse, Martha.
There are numerous educated Cambodians throughout the United States who have far more intelectual capacity opposed to Mr. best man (as you have eloquently alluded).
Khmer forever! Yuoun out of Cambodia!
Tyrants are able to consolidate power because they led people to believe there is chaos and anarchy. Julius Ceasar, Adolph Hitler, Napoleon, and George W. Bush are famous tyrants who were given power by the people to restore order from the threats that they created. Murdering a Deputy Prime Minister would only demonstrate that there is turmoil and instability that must be stop by brutality. Futhermore, any harm done to Sok An in America by Khmer Americans will make the rest of the world view Khmer Americans as vicious people conspiring to kill one man. I say let the man come, let him participate in the parade, but do not harm him. The people can show their disapproval by not participating and not observe the parade. Remember what the late Bhenazir Bhutto said before she died, "DEMOCRACY IS THE BEST REVENGE."
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An Anonymous said :
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Their headquarter are centalized at a building across the street from Khun Heng Market above Bamboo Restaurant.
Show your support by going overthere with a sign of protest every day at lunch time
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My respond :
Will I see you there ? How can I recognize you ? :-))
See, it's easy to push someone to die for you but when it comes to do it yourself, that's another story.
Stop the crap!!!
FUCK KHMER SHIT
KHMER ARE FUCKING DUMB PEOPLE
KILL YOUR OWN PEOPLE, DUMB SHIT
Mr. San and Mr. Sichan are fucking the same
the difference between Mr. Sok An and Mr. Sichan Siv no difference
Mr. Sichan got his job because of his wife without his wife, he would be nothing
ambassador really
just a small position, but we think it's big
Martha, his wife split once already
as for mr. San, this idiot is also not too good either
mr. is a big joke
Japan supports Vietnam. American are doing busuness with us. Even thought,they know our Kings are closed association with The North Korea. What do you say to that?
The big picture is Economic. With Mr. Sok An visiting The Long beach, more good will flow back and forward. Doing trade are easier? May be. Althought, we can wait and reserve this honorary place for the right man and the right government.
2008 is already here. No parade for now. Hold that off or planly just don't go.
9:47pm? Same as 9:47pm, what a time?
You may not think that none of us vote for him and that he was purely appointed by Mr. Hun Sen. True.
The real deal that you did not see or know, is that 4000 riels or 5000 riels handing over to those poor and helpess of us at the rural areas secretly the night before they are to cast their votes meant more than anything else in the world. With life threatening is , yet to be more submissive to them. To vote for Mr. Hun Sen is also mean to vote for Mr. Sok An. Don't you think? Do more study and listening careful to the wishpering of our people's lips, please and pass the word. By all mean make the right decision choosing our next government.
To convince Martha to marry him takes gut. Mr. Sichan must have real gut. He must see and know something that we don't.
For your information, His Majesty King Sihanouk invited him to stop over, gave him his many hand made films to Mr. Sichan when he was over in Thailand during King Bhumibol's 60th years ceremony as Thai King, what was last year? Again, do your own research for your own satisfaction.
King Sihanouk likes everybody else is a man. He has good intention and right to convince others for his real cause. See his films for your self and then blame Mr. Sichan.
No man is bad. Only his action. Punish and comdemm the action and not the man.
Just if you did not get it, don't hate King Sihanouk or Mr. Sichan or and or...hate their actions. If they did wrong, don't support them. Vote for someone else. Hold no hate and zero revenge. Shade hands and move on to something new and excitting!!!!!
Buttom line, blame it on the Ecomonic. That's what drives everybody up the wall and insane. Perhaps, there will be no army in the world that can stop it.
For God's sake, why?
Sihanouk had managed to destroy it all. Sihanouk had destroyed patriotism; Through the "Killing Fields" Sihanouk had destroyed almost 2 millions of Khmer (including Viet, Chinese, Cham and many other inhabitants of Cambodia).
To serve the Viet/YUON's interest, Sihanouk had managed to produce a boatload of worthless offspings specifically Rannaridh (Sihanouk the Playboy Jr), and Sihamoni (Sihanouk woman's side, the queer Prince Jr).
Even as almost to his last breath, Sihanouk still manages to serve his master - the Viet/Yuon!
Sihanouk had managed to crack a few eggs in the process to make the "killing Fields" looked good: killing a couple of his own offsprings.
And yes, Sihanouk had managed to CRUSH khmer's spirit once and for all in favor of the Viet race by way of the very same infamous "Killing Fields"...
As Cambodian/Khmer, need we say more?
And For God's sake, Sihanouk, why???
For our beloved motherland, Cambodia, may almighty God save you from the annexation by the Viet and from all of the Vietnamization processes.
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Richer San and his wife Sithea San are opportunists who want to get favor from Corrupt officials.
Give Sithea San's Kandoy to CPP offocials and you will get what you want.
Mee CHOR Kandoy Sithea San!
You all scolt only Mr. San what about Peter Long and Gary Ung and Anthony Lee. They are together an't they? Their background are worst to tell..please find more about them. However, I heard X-UCC staff complained that UCC's colapse because of Richer San, then, I would say Richer San destroyed United Cambodian Community and same thing as he is about to destroy our community now. He made people trusted him then turn around using people for his own personal gains. What should you do if he comes back to Long Beach?, tell me community member.
This is so shameful to Ly Diep and his group. They are creating chaos within the Cambodian community. Always find wrongdoing of others, but they, themselves never done anything to help the community other than jealousy. You guys calling yourself patriotics and Khmer Intelligent? I am shameful to have you as Khmer. What have you done for the community other than creating chaos and hatred????? What are you, Ly Diep? I've heard you are Yuon agents.
Now, Wat Irap is the next victim. You and your group want to establish Killing Fields Memorial Center for Khmer victims and Wat Irap has monies and good place for that... Please don't destroy others for your selfishness. Buddha will not help you...trust me....if you are Buddhist, you know what's "cause and affect" is.....What goes around, comes around my friend(s). If you and your group want to do something good, I suggest that you guys start do something good from within yourself, it's not too late to start.
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