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Our people compatriot must stop the present leader let our country plunging again and again. The Khmer leader must learn our history well before thinking to lead this nation.
Remember Kampuchea Krom? Remember Prey Nokor? A primary example is the Ho Chi Minh.
First, they asked our king to give them the place to train their troops; then ask to stay for safety, and then ask to give, then no tax and so on.
Now, there is something wrong again. WHY does it feel wrong to give over one hundred thousand acres of our sacred land to VN army forces? Think twice and must we have people involved in this matter?
Who else, the VN private companies – another offered land (Dei Sambatean)?
Do Khmer people keep quiet in this case and let the government give away free land to VN?
Do you see all Khmer farmers with no land and also those that are greedy and selfish help their master to take from the poor as well or do they actually think Cambodia already belongs to VN; so just sell it before it is too late for them?
I would like to appeal to all Khmer abroad in the third country – please do not afraid that you cannot go to visit the country or your family; be afraid that we will have no country to visit.
The way Vietnamese took our land (Kampuchea Krom) is just the way they are doing to Cambodia now. It will not be long before, we, Khmer, have no country to visit and also have no country to call our own.
Millions of Khmer people were killed and will continue to get killed no one of them take responsibility – for they are not afraid to give away the very heart and soul of Khmer land and life.
There is something wrong with the concept of “Royalist and Communist together” – look around!!!
We must act now and just one voice, there is no one Khmer smarter than with all Khmers together.
Remember Kampuchea Krom? Remember Prey Nokor? A primary example is the Ho Chi Minh.
First, they asked our king to give them the place to train their troops; then ask to stay for safety, and then ask to give, then no tax and so on.
Now, there is something wrong again. WHY does it feel wrong to give over one hundred thousand acres of our sacred land to VN army forces? Think twice and must we have people involved in this matter?
Who else, the VN private companies – another offered land (Dei Sambatean)?
Do Khmer people keep quiet in this case and let the government give away free land to VN?
Do you see all Khmer farmers with no land and also those that are greedy and selfish help their master to take from the poor as well or do they actually think Cambodia already belongs to VN; so just sell it before it is too late for them?
I would like to appeal to all Khmer abroad in the third country – please do not afraid that you cannot go to visit the country or your family; be afraid that we will have no country to visit.
The way Vietnamese took our land (Kampuchea Krom) is just the way they are doing to Cambodia now. It will not be long before, we, Khmer, have no country to visit and also have no country to call our own.
Millions of Khmer people were killed and will continue to get killed no one of them take responsibility – for they are not afraid to give away the very heart and soul of Khmer land and life.
There is something wrong with the concept of “Royalist and Communist together” – look around!!!
We must act now and just one voice, there is no one Khmer smarter than with all Khmers together.
136 comments:
You are absolutely right. We must act now!!!
"Will History Haunt Us Again?
Yes, it will if we listen to Ah Khmer-Yuon. Otherwise, we'll be fine.
Vietnam is a devil country.
We need to vote Hun Sen (CPP) out of office. This dude does not protect Cambodian interests.
It is very easy to have stability in the country when they give lands to Vietnam.
But at the end, Cambodia will be reduced to Hun Sen's house.
Well, Cambodia interest is not to be destroyed by westerner trained people again, and so far, SAMSBDDC (Somdach Akkar Moha Sena Bat Dey Dek Cho) Hun Sen has done fine.
2:59, have no land is not the end of the world. Ah Khmer-US/Canadian/French/AU.../UK has no land either but they are happy as hell. Thus, it can't be a nightmare, can it?
AH SAMSBDDC (Somdach Akkar Moha Sena Bat Dey Dek Cho) Hun Sen just Ah yuon given title, because its servant Ah yuon interest as always!
The CPP are Ah chkae yuon!
Alright, so you don't like our SAMSBDDC Hun Sen. However, is he the only one the planet you don't like?
To the Editor of KI-Media from me KONG Hean,
KI-Media has been infested by pests of the worst kind for quite some time now. Please look at the comments posted immediately above. They are all of vitriolic nature. The posters do not have a clue about what they want to say, let alone contribute to solving the problems raised by the media.
This kind of people have no compassion, nor do they have patriotic sentiment for Cambodia and her people. They do not have the faintest intention to listen, learn and acquire new knowledge. In fact, they simply look for the opportunity to stop the flow of opinion, thus obstruct the basic right of free speech. They might object by saying that 'this is free speech'. But the notion of fair-mindedness will say quite the opposite.
There should be a better way of exercising the freedom of expression!!!
Yours sincerely.
KONG Hean
Blog URL: www.save-cambodia.blogspot.com
Well, what is wrong with post 3:46, which is a replied to 3:36, which is yet a replied to 3:05 ...? Would you mind be more specific?
There are too much economic interests for corrupted Cambodian leaders and Cambodian people interest are falling on deaf ear!
I see so many things wrong with Cambodia right now and I will not go into any detail because it is so frustrating to see that Cambodian population have lost and have sacrifice most of their life just to live a simple human being but AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave government won't let Cambodian people have their wish!
In life most people wish for some form of stability in their life such having stable relationship, stable family, stable job...or something that is predictable! So far Cambodia is full of uncertainty and Cambodian people never have a peace of mind with all the fucken bullshit that is going on right now!
This is the very reason why Cambodia will never have peace!
5:13, you don't have to tell us every problems. Just give us two of you most concerned issues in Cambodia, and allowed all of us to take a good stab at it. I am sure we can help clear up the smoke the screwed up your perception, alright.
Yuon, which always had the ambition, annexed and to swallow Kampuchea and to exterminate the Khmer race through its disaster strategy of
" Indochina's Federation " undertook activities of most perfidious in order to achieve its goal.
"Yuon is the evil fox"
"Yuon is the chief of thief in the world"
"Yuon typhoon whom swallow other"
We must mobilize to destoy its from the face the this planet.
I, a Khmer
I, a Khmer eating Trakuon(1), grateful to Yuon(2), wearing Duon(3), Like to sing the Vietnamese language; Lack of lesson, dare not argue with Viet, Then, accept to lose land, nation, religion, and ancestors’ heritage; Like to show off, get drunk in the bars, buy poor young girls to satisfy sexual desire; Swindle with court, rob someone’s property, create problems in society.
Making cake without flour, boiling water without making fire(4), Suck the blood of the poor like leeches, Thick face(5) like locomotive no brain for good or bad, merits or sin. Grow mango trees reap mangoes, grow Sleng(6) reap sleng, Lord Buddha taught good deeds produce good merits, do bad get bad in return.
Whether people are rich or poor, ill will or wholesome, or hermits, they will all die.
I, a Khmer, scared of enemies, strong with Khmer people, Cutting trees, eating dog meat,
Have big liver like a gecko, grasp whatever is in sight even if it is my mother’s, Rough skin, sticky toes like caramel, like to relax in Hue (7) city
Rice fields lost in Daung village, Romeas Hek, Prasaut, Svay Teab, Kompong Roh, Khmer suffer along
the border in Rotanak Kiri, Mondol Kiri, Kratie, Kompong Cham, Prey Veng, Takeo, Kompot, and Svay Rieng. Nothing left Khmers suffer lack of food, water, land, nostalgic for Kampuchea Krom.
Khmer suffer, killing each other,
With long term suffering, no compassion left, Khmers are divided. They kill, attack, oppress, and deceive one another, and take revenge, but, they bow before their enemies.
I, a Khmer eating frog, with a black heart as a crow, hard head like iron, like to argue. Without thinking of tomorrow, praise the strong in order to fill my stomach. A strange species, poisonous as scorpion, divides
his own nation to favor others. I, a Khmer riding a water buffalo’s back, who wants to be rich,
Have only empty words and an evil heart, Fear of other race, with no conscience, willing to shrink down the territory. To expand own authority, even in a cage.
Poem by: Mam Sonando
Translation by: Ieng Mala
(1) Watercress
(2) Vietnamese(Yuon)
(3) Vietnamese conical hat
(4) A colloquial metaphor for cheating or tricking someone. i.e., obtaining something without effort by exploiting others.
(5) Shameless, Careless of criticism
(6) Fruits to make Strychnine, poisonous fruits.
(7) Vietnam city
Nonsense 6:25, If you wished to federate Indochina, you don't need to annexed anyone. The only time you annexed other nation is when you want to occupied that nation. A good example of this is Vietnam annexed Ah Khmer-Yuon land to occupy it as part of Vietnam, not to make it a federated part of Vietnam. Get it?
And what is your point, 6:45?
Dear KI-Media readers,
On November 29, KI-Media posted an opinion survey made by IRI which pointed out that Cambodia is right now faced with 3 major problems namely corruption, drugs and crimes.
In my opinion, I would put these 3 issues on the bottom of my list which would look like this:
1- The shredding by Hun Sen government of the October 23, 1991 Paris Peace Agreements,
2- The ensuing border re-demarkation issues,
3- The 6 million or so of illegal migrants including at leat 4.5 million Vietnamese,
4- The plundering of state assets including the endless land grabbing,
5- Incompetent, partial, thus unreliable judiciary,
6- The non-existence of separation of powers,
7- Bad governance,
8- Rights abuses
9- corruption,
10- Drugs/human trafficking and other crimes.
Failing to address these 10 major problems, the current Cambodian government will stand accused of working for Hanoi, thus betraying its own people.
[khmer uniccode] For You Viet troller and this Yuon's mercenarybullshitter named MOI aka "Multiple Orgamsms Instantly":
មិនយូរមិនឆាប់ពួកអាខ្ញុំយួនផុតពូជឯង នឹងត្រូវខ្មែរ ស្នេហាជាតិ សម្លាប់ ឲ្យស្លាប់តែហោងផុតពូជមិនខាន។
ពីខ្មែរស្នហាជាតិទាំងអស់នៅលើ KI-MEDIA.
Wrong 6:58, we did not failed anything. We do whatever we have to do in the interest of Cambodia. Currently, our main focus is creating jobs to reduce poverty and suffering.
And all your complaints are rubbishes:
Take your top complaint, for example, which you considered life and dead situation. Everything was complied to the letter, with the exception of minor adjustment to ensure peace as the Peace Accord implied and meant to be for.
And there is nothing wrong with establishing border demarcation so that we can develop trading zone for our merchants... . We certainly don't want to wait another centuries for that.
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To 7:18AM,
Please be man enough to just give us either YES or NO next to the 10 major problems listed above by Mr. Kong Hean and we will tell you who you exactly are. You don't need a mirror to look at yourself. It's a great opportunity to know everything about yourself free of charge, ok.
8:34, if your top complaints are rubbishes, what does that say about the rest of you complaint, huh? Don't tell me that you have to have a PhD to figure that out.
Mr. Kong Hean et al,
Those are from the same Viet troller that pretends to be khmer and speaking for Khmer. And most recently, she revealed herself as MOI - We like to refer to her as "Multiple Orgasms Instantly" while she's calling herself "Man of Integrity". She is going back and forth between being anonymous and MOI...KI-Media readers already opt to ignore this leech/parasite Viet troller because we all know full well that SHE cannot influence anybody with her trash writings...Need we say more?
Sincerely yours,
KI-Media readers
Don't mind me for being here. I am stupid and have no life. I come here to get some attentions to get my day going. So if you see any illogical messages from me, ignore them, ok?
MOI (Man Of Integrity)
We Khmer must at all cost save Cambodia for our next generations to call Srok Khmer.
Some Khmer have already call Surin "srok Thai" and Kampuchea Krom "srok Yuon" today?!!!
It is in Khmer nationhood and national duty to keep Cambodia (Khmer heartland)as "srok Khmer" for our next generations to come.
The way it goes today under Hun Sen's rule, "srok Khmer" might not last that long.
Hun Sen regime has started a civil war against the Khmer poor, by implementing land-grabs against the defenseless Khmer farmers and citizens, to make way for his business associates and foreigner migrants.
Hun Sen and his cronies are benefiting from private business dealings with the foreign business such as the Viets, the Thai, the Chinese, the Korean, etc. These dealings should be in the interests of a nation, but not so with Hun Sen's regime.
Hun Sen surely has a vision for his family, his cronies, his Viet masters, his Chinese masters, etc. BUT Hun Sen has NO vision for Khmer People.
As we all can see during his abroad to Asean meeting, to China, all he does is begging for foreign aid, and begging for other countries to build roads for Cambodia. You and I no that there is such thing a "free lunch".
As a Khmer person, I feel ashame that Cambodia's Hun Sen continues to beg and has no future plan for Cambodia when he has been in power for 20 years or so. Now he wants to rule Cambodia until he is completely dead. This clearly proves that Hun Sen wants to bring Cambodia with him when he dies!
What rights are your and mine to let one man destroy Khmer nation. The royal families have done enough damage to Khmer nation, now we should stop the corrupt Hun Sen regime from taking Cambodia with him when he dies.
My suggestions to save Khmerland:
- Call your relatives in Cambodia to NOT vote for CPP, but for the Sam Rainsy party or the HR party.
- If work in government, refuse to take bribe.
- Encourage Khmer friends and relatives back home not to sell lands and properties to foreigners.
- Encourage Khmer children to go to school and be mindful about nationhood.
- Work smart is more important than work hard.
- Learn new trade skills, not just working on farmlands.
- Save more and spend less.
Khmer Angkor
[khmer uniccode] For You Viet troller and this Yuon's mercenarybullshitter named MOI aka "Multiple Orgamsms Instantly":
មិនយូរមិនឆាប់ពួកអាខ្ញុំយួនផុតពូជឯង នឹងត្រូវខ្មែរ ស្នេហាជាតិ សម្លាប់ ឲ្យស្លាប់តែហោងផុតពូជមិនខាន។
ពីខ្មែរស្នហាជាតិទាំងអស់នៅលើ KI-MEDIA.
Don't mind me for being here. I am stupid and have no life. I come here to get some attentions to get my day going. So if you see any illogical messages from me, ignore it, ok?
MOI (Man Of Integrit
This article is correct if we reflect to Cambodia history in her relationship with Vietnam.
- Many Cambodian kings in the past asked Vietnam to help them to power regardless of losing sovereign integrity.
- During French colony, French favored Vietnam and gave opportunity to Vietnam in influencing Cambodia.
- Khmer Rouge leaders were heartedly supported by Vietnam to overcome Lon Nol. But China wholehearted supported Khmer Rouge to betray Vietnam because Vietnam betrayed China when they can unify North-South Vietnam.
- Vietnam wholeheartedly supported Hun Sen, Heng Samrin and Chea Sim to power. And now these three leaders (Sam Kok) are still in power to the present. With a weak country leadership in present Cambodia that is full of corruption, crimes, drugs and lawless state will not ensure stable Cambodia at all.
So our present Sam Kok is really independent from Vietnam?
What reasons you can explain us if you think that these three prominent leaders are independent?
KY
9:15, Get it into your head, Cambodia will not break diplomatic relation with any of our neighbor, especially Vietnam. You theory of anyone who worked with Vietnam is their slave is just totally idiotic, alright?
these three are STUPID. The story with youn shall have been long gone.
Since 1991, these three could distant themselves from youn. instead, they choose to side with youn to kill their own brothers and sisters.
Cambodia need new leaders.
H.E. Chourn Yoiy
[khmer uniccode] For You Viet troller @9:30AM and this Yuon's mercenary bullshitter named MOI aka "Multiple Orgamsms Instantly":
មិនយូរមិនឆាប់ពួកអាខ្ញុំយួនផុតពូជឯង នឹងត្រូវខ្មែរ ស្នេហាជាតិ សម្លាប់ ឲ្យស្លាប់តែហោងផុតពូជមិនខាន។
ពីខ្មែរស្នហាជាតិទាំងអស់នៅលើ KI-MEDIA.
Wrong 9:34, there is no such thing as criminals brothers and sisters.
I am right. these three are worst then KR.
Hun Sen is really like Khmer Kings. He really likes Kings because he did the same as Khmer Kings had done. The sameness is "asked foreigner to help and cut some portions of country for foreign". Mybe Hun Sen will do much better than previous Khmer Kings because he may give all the whole nation to foreign country, VN.
yeah, and ...?
9:51 AM
he approves that already. Youn can pick any land in Cambodia as it wants. Youn people can come in and live freely in Cambodia. It just that while Phnom Penh still has a large population of Cambodia, it would make Hun Sen look bad for naming Phnom Penh as Nam Yang.
MOI, if you want attention come to me. I'll you more than attention, girl.
Svay Rieng, Cambodia
9:30AM
Answer directly to my question: "What reasons you can explain us if you think that these three prominent leaders are independent?"
KY
Well, let's just hope we get some Yuons from Hanoi, 10:01. We don't want and Yuon from the Delta area mo more. We are tired of those lazy asses, and we'll have to deported them.
10:18, all our leaders are independent just as the US leaders or any other leaders are independent, alright? However, this does not mean that we will isolated ourself from any or all of our neighbors to harm our economy and national security. We will continued to strengthen relation with them as time required.
I love all of our Cambodian compatriots comments in this KI Media blog.They are very meaningful but except some idiots comments from youn behind Khmer's mask.
These hyenas viets are using cpp's mask to stay survive in Khmer'land.
We all Khmer must remembers regardless cpp's or Sam ransy's or others that these behind mask want to separate Khmer leu,Khmer Krom,Khmer Surin.Remember we separate we die,we unite we live.
PM Hun Sen and Others cpp not wake up on time,they and their families,their sons,there daughters,their grandchildren will be eaten by these viets behind Khmer"s mask.They did once already to Khmer peoples from 1975 to 1979.
SURIN
Dream on, 10:36, but you guys ain't going to steal any of our lands. You got that?
10:30AM
Your view point is one-sided view point. You see relation as key point in only one side. I also value relation, but only fair treatment relation.
But if you look at both sides of Cambodia-Vietnam relation, it is truly for the sake of relation and government-installed relation.
Do you believe me that for the favor of "you have helped me", Sam Kok has to agree with their super hero (Vietnam) by using relation as propaganda. So seeing both sides of this relation, we are not lost or deceived by our current Sam Kok leaders.
But seeing only side like you, I can assure that Cambodia is acting as a lackey state.
KY
are you out of your mind? 10:21 AM
youn from Hanoi are killers and Criminals while Youn from the Soouth are laz ass. Both combined is doubling the number of parasites in Cambodia.
round them up, and deport them back where should belong!
Choun-Yoiy
Come on dude, when Vietnam liberated us, they must install a government just as the US did in Iraq. Both (US and Viet) can't just leave Cambodia or Iraq and let it crumble from power struggling. That is a waste of their investment. I mean there are many lost of life involved here.
And sure, it is normal for those who was selected to lead the country to be bias toward those who appointed them, but that doesn't mean we are Viet's slaves or Iraq will be the US slave. Take another example of George Bush nominated the US Supreme court Judge. We all know that this Judge will always be biased to George Bush, but he will not be Bush's slave. Get it? The problem with you is that you tried to twist every little man made imperfection out of proportion, 10:43.
10:47, We don't want to combine anything here. What we want is all the lazy asses from south Vietnam outta here, no matter what they are get it? They aint going to be here to take advantage of Khmer people.
What we want is Yuon Hanoi to help us move our ecomomy along with the rest of the world. They have good solid record of accomplishments and experiences for that, no one else does, alright?
Screw your logic you freaking Viet/Yuon..screw you..screw you..you freaking Viet @11:02AM!
[khmer unicode] For You Viet troller @11:02 and 11:08AM that is pretending to be Khmer speaking for Khmer and you bitch Yuon's mercenary bullshitter named MOI aka "Multiple Orgamsms Instantly":
មិនយូរមិនឆាប់ពួកអាខ្ញុំយួនផុតពូជឯង នឹងត្រូវខ្មែរ ស្នេហាជាតិ សម្លាប់ ឲ្យស្លាប់តែហោងផុតពូជមិនខាន។
ពីខ្មែរស្នហាជាតិទាំងអស់នៅលើ KI-MEDIA.
you compare youn with the US. FOOOLISH!!
these three dudes youn are salve to youn. YOU are slave to youn while the rest are against slavary.
Through the Hun Sen's protection, youn rob khmer land, rob khmer natural resource, populate youn people in Cambodia. Do you see the US does that to Iraq?
Choun-Yoiy
Well, what is wrong with my logic. It is the same exact logic as the US, isn't it, 11:10?
11:02AM
Your example is wrong again. US and Iraq is not sharing its border, and the invasion of US to Iraq is partially recognized by UN and international community.
We cannot avoid from bias and imperfection, but we have to minimize it. However, in case Hun Sen with Vietnam is not minimizing at all since he came to power in January 7, 1979.
For the favor of his boss, he can neglect the citizenship of Tim Sakhorn by sending him to be tried by Vietnam's court. Cambodian citizens are painful and fearful through this perpetrating.
This is just one of those factual lackey activities acted by Hun Sen.
KY
11:16, the US got plenty oils from Iraq for their efforts. What is wrong with that?
Oh, give me a break, 11:16. Distance between two countries is irrelevant here. If Malaysia were rescued us from KR and intall the government here instead of Vietnam, it will be no difference here.
If Ah Malaysian Sakhorn try to mess with our relation with Malaysia, he will pay for it. So what is the difference?
you are inviting criminals into your home, 11:08 AM. That is the most stupid thing that any human being would never ever do.
What excellent record? The breaking communist north is not too far way from poor Cambodia. Beside behind Hun Sen, there are already 1000's of youn advisers from Hanoi. Look at Cambodia today as the result of youn advising?
if we want to move Cambodia with the ASEAN's speed, Cambodia must:
1- be truly independent from youn.
2- elect Sam Rainsy into office of PM of Cambodia.
3- hire a few best mind economic experts from Sinagpore.
I quarantee you, in ten years, you will see ah srokey and ah Leo'ave smelling Cambodia's smoke.
What criminal? what did Yuon Hanoi ever did to Khmer? and I mean real Khmer, 11:38.
11:19 AM you are misleading yourself. the US has never got any drop of oil as the result of Iraq's invasion.
youn rob and steal khmer nonstop. you see the difference? youn must be deported back where they belong.
Oh no, 11:19? That shows how much you know. Here's how it's done:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,882512,00.html
Plus, there are lot of future opportunities for the US from Iraq.
The opposition leader must sale this issue to the khmer people, especially the provices along the VN border. The Opposition leader must try to align itself with the military personnel and must have good funding to demoblize Hun Sen & His cronies. Border must be protected and must be address it clearly at the UN. Otherwise, all Khmer Krom men must stand up and pick up guns and start the liberation themself. This is the only way to show the UN how desparate Khmer are and they must be committed and willing to take the fight till the last blood draw..
11:26AM
You are having fantasy in Cambodia politics, so that why you has supported Hun Sen blindly.
Your example case of Malaysia is not realistic.
However, Tim Sakhorn has Cambodian citizenship, Cambodian government should not neglect his Khmer citizenship by deporting him to be tried by Veitnam. Cambodian government has to value their own race and citizenship.
More than this, the page of history between Vietnam and Malaysia with Cambodia is very different....it is incomparable.
KY
you don't know or you act like you don't know, 11:45 AM? Read this article!!
The history of Cambodia-Vietnam relationship is good for those learned people especially Khmer younger generation to experiment and search for truth from this relation.
- Many Cambodian kings in the past asked Vietnam to help them to power regardless of losing sovereign integrity.
- During French colony, French favored Vietnam and gave opportunity to Vietnam in influencing Cambodia.
- Khmer Rouge leaders were heartedly supported by Vietnam to overcome Lon Nol. But China wholehearted supported Khmer Rouge to betray Vietnam because Vietnam betrayed China when they can unify North-South Vietnam.
- Vietnam wholeheartedly supported Hun Sen, Heng Samrin and Chea Sim to power. And now these three leaders (Sam Kok) are still in power to the present. With a weak country leadership in present Cambodia that is full of corruption, crimes, drugs and lawless state will not ensure stable Cambodia at all.
- Chronologically, Vietnam was smart to adopt their doi moi policy in 1986 to upgrade their political agenda to further national interests. From that party congress, Vietnam accepted multi-alliance policy but keeps Cambodia under their sleeve. So that why Vietnam accepted to withdraw their military from Cambodia, re-ally with China, US and other nations. But one important thing is that Vietnam has still likely been keeping firmly Cambodia-installed government under their sleeve to gain benefits for their nation.
So our present Sam Kok is really independent from Vietnam?
What reasons you can explain us if you think that these three prominent leaders are independent?
KY
Well, I was just trying to demonstrated to you that distance between two countries doesn't mean a thing here. Fact of the matter, you can't never have the exact same situation between the two liberation (US and Viet), but nonetheless the situation were pretty damn close.
As for history, also the US have black history as vietnam did on nearly the same time line. So why are you not picking at the US also?
Come on, 11:59, it is obvious that you have hatred issues here, and it can't get better until you admitted it. You will not able to help Cambodia but to harm it more with your hatred condition.
12:41, stop embarrassing yourself here, dude. You may able to fool some Khmer people, but you can't fool all of us, alright?
12:32 PM don't act like you are a khmer since you are a youn agent. We can smell your azz miles away, get it?
12:27 PM
I have no hatred to VN, but I narrate according to Cambodian social facts in keeping relation with VN.
If you are not yet absolutely CPP's lackey, you should re-think again.
I am not a lackey to everybody
KY
Okay, 12:58, if you say so.
As for me, actually I am an opposition to the CPP also, but my plan for Cambodia will not offered the country anything significantly better or worse than the CPP already accomplished. Hence, it is not justified for me to create anymore sceneries to blacken Cambodia image further.
As for lackey, you are wrong, dude. Even the US president is a lackey. So stop fooling yourself.
now you are playing pointing finger, 12:27 PM. what the US does to Iraq is the US's business. it is like I don't give a damn about whom you have been fucked with.
But what youn does to khmer is our business. it is real and is still going on as we speak. we will scream out loud and speak up loudly until the rest of the world get our messages and youn's ignorant stubborn heads go away.
Wrong, there is no finger pointing here. I am just indicating the nature of war; that is all.
1:21 PM
You are contradict to yourself. When you are getting nothing from present government, you will not support those corrupted leaders in CPP. If your family is getting poorer and poorer through corruption in Cambodia, but you still see Hun Sen has accomplished, you must be an idiot. You loss both family betterment and brighter future of Cambodia.
I can see there are some degree of accomplishments of Hun Sen, but if I compare with unaccomplishments, I can see there is grave different.
The huge debt that Cambodia has had, the exploitation of natural resources, and almost 30 years in power are not a sign for Hun Sen's accomplishment at all.
More than that, the becoming satellited state to VN, the rampant corruption, and the increasing dictatorship of Hun Sen are really backward of this government.
KY
2:02 PM, you make no sense. we don't want to waste our minutes on the issues of US-Iraq. why would we?
we have plenty of problems lying on our chest because of youn. Thus, we are better get all the problems out of our chest first, then we'll look what is next. get it?
I would like to propse KI team to block one man from this comment who use so immoral and disgarce our people. He might be true youn. Pls consider this. His comment should not be show off in here.
Yes, the one who like using the word- Ah hmer-Youn.......this such a comment should not be posted here. This guy has no value att all.
The term Ah Khmer-Yuon, only Ah yuon or pouk Ah chkae yuon is being used.i.e "Samlor Mchou Yuon"
Khmer Knhom Yuon Called "Samlor Mchou Lauk Chhum neanh Kar" and when its call khmer its call Ah khmer-Yuon.
Because pouk vea chea Yuon or pouk Ah knhom Yuon!
But ah khmer-youn decribed by the man in the comment refers to our beloved khmer krom. You should observe that.
That's right, a man who described in the comments is totally corrected, Because he is khmer Krom, and Khmer Krom land is belong to our beloved Khmer Krom.
And I assured you, that land will return to KHmer, Because that land never been belong to Ah pouk Yuon Chhlean Pean Plon lirk dei Khmer.
And the whole world know that, even
pouk Ah yuon knew its Plon from Khmer too.
Ah Yuon or Ah Knhom Yuon!
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I was once told by my Cham friends that the Cham history is completely distorted in the Vietnamese history books. I was not surprised either and I told them that it happened to our Khmer-Krom history as well. They told me the reason the Cham kingdom fell into Vietnamese’s hands in a short period of time was because the Champa King, Jaya Simhavarman III (Che Man in Vietnamese) married Princess Huyen Tran of Vietnam. This was a political marriage and Vietnam used it as a tactic to annex the Champa’s territory. After the Vietnamese partially gained control over Champa in the 17th century, they used the same tactic and presented Princess Ngoc Van to the young Khmer monarch, King Chey Chettha II in 1620.
In 1623, through the Queen’s intervention and obligated through his marriage, the King Chey Chettha II agreed to grant the trade permission for the Vietnamese people to conduct trade in Morea (Ba Ria), Prey Nokor (Saigon), and Tropeang Chong Wa (Bien Hoa) provinces and allowed the Vietnamese to temporarily settle in those provinces. This was the first time the Vietnamese obtained a foothold in Kampuchea-Krom and continued their ambitious expansion plans toward the South, called “Nam Tien” in Vietnamese.
Looking at the map, we can identify that the central of Vietnam is Champa Kingdom. To the North of Champa is Dai Viet which is a country of Vietnamese ancestry and to the South is Kampuchea-Krom, which used to belong to Kampuchea kingdom.
If my Cham friends in Vietnam have a chance to read the content of the Conference on Champa 2007, I am sure they will have very high hopes. Even though the purpose of the conference is to “help preserve our people’s culture and identity in our ancestral homeland and in the Diasporas, and resolve issues hindering their progress” it has a lot of profound meaning in it. As we all know, in order to preserve our culture and identity, we need to have the rights to practice it before we can try to preserve it. Thus, to practice our culture freely we do not need the interference of the VC government and that must be respected.
I was surprised to learn from the conference’s documentation that the last Kingdom of Champa was officially wiped out from the world map in 1832. This historical fact shows the world that Kampuchea-Krom is not Vietnamese ancestral land. It is Khmer-Krom ancestral land because during that time, the Vietnamese did not control the entire Kampuchea-Krom.
In the Vietnamese history publications, especially the new history document that was recently published by the VC government, “Brief History of the South-Western Territory”, claims that Kampuchea-Krom is the Vietnamese ancestral land, because the Vietnamese ancestors are the first people who reclaimed the waste land in Kampuchea-Krom. With this oblivious argument, the VC government tried to claim that nobody lived in Kampuchea-Krom before the Vietnamese arrived. This was a shock to the Historian Scholars around the world. Since Vietnam has Internet access, those Vietnamese historians who were engaged in writing the book should read a short history of Prey Nokor city on www.wikipedia.org to get a better understanding about it'.
The Khmers Kampuchea-Krom Federation Youth Committee (KKFYC) is an active committee of the Khmers Kampuchea-Krom Federation (KKF). The committee represents all Khmer Krom youth groups, clubs, and associations internationally that are recognized by the KKF.
KKFYC is an international youth organization created for the sole purpose of developing activities and programs to fulfil the mission of KKF as an indigenous organization representing millions of Khmer Krom people in the Mekong Delta of Vietnam.....
The KKFYC works in collaboration with members of the Khmers Kampuchea-Krom Federation to bring international awareness and attention to the issue of the Khmer Krom people.
In particular, it aims to promote the use of international law instruments and United Nations treaties to its people across the world, especially in Kampuchea-Krom, to allow the Khmer Krom people to fully achieve their rights to self-determination which is stated, “All peoples have the right to self-determination…” in the First Article common to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights.
Its core representatives are recognized youth leaders at their local and international level and are equipped with working knowledge and vast experience within their communities as well as being active participants at human rights sessions in the United Nations.
In true fulfilment of the term, “Tompeng Khnong Reussey”, the Khmer Krom youths are dedicated individuals found across America, Australia, Cambodia, Canada, Europe, Vietnam, and around the world.
They are the forerunners of the Khmers Kampuchea-Krom Federation organization and play a critical role in fundraising, preparing documentation and delivering speeches at international and local conferences.
As a KKFYC member, you will be involved in a wide range of activities and initiatives to increase the international awareness surrounding the plight of the Khmer Krom people.
Such activities include:
Empowering Khmer Krom youth internationally
Networking Khmer Krom youth group globally
Bridging the generation gap between the elders and the young
Preparing younger generation for future KKF's leadership
Conducting Research, Documentation, and Presentations
Writing articles and publishing on Khmer Krom websites
Being major event coordinators/ organisers
We hope that you will join us to help the millions of voiceless Khmer Krom people in Kampuchea Krom achieve their long overdue basic human rights and fundamental freedoms
KKFYC Team
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Why Khmer-Krom Youth Overseas Need to be Involved?
By a KK youth member
It is fact that the majority of Khmer-Krom youths in our homeland, Kampuchea Krom, have no chance to obtain good education to better their life. However, no one can blame them for their failures in life, because they are not as lucky as the Khmer-Krom overseas who live freely and have all opportunities to be successful as an individual. The local Khmer-Krom youths in general are from poor family, too pre-occupied with finding a meal to pass the day, to even thinking about a better future.
In Kampuchea-Krom (south Vietnam), the Khmer-Krom children who could not graduate an elementary education are in the majority today. As the consequences, these local youths are either becoming an alcoholic individual as a means to pass their hopelessness, or working in slave labor for the Vietnamese employers to help their poor family. The cycle of poverty affect the majority of Khmer-Krom families in our homeland, despite the Vietnamese government’s claims of their recent successes on poverty reduction in the country. Their claims are mostly focusing on the Vietnamese poor, while the Khmer-Krom’s poverty eradication effort remains a spoon-fed cause by the government.
Khmer-Kroms are poorest of the poor in the Mekong delta region, because Khmer-Krom’s fertile farmlands are now in the Vietnamese’ greedy hands. The Vietnamese have made themselves the Masters, while turning Khmer-Krom into the Slaves on our own lands. Losing farmlands is one issue, while the case of extortions of Khmer-Krom’s sacred sites, temples, and monuments by the Vietnamese authorities and the Vietnamese people is persistent.
This is fact that the Vietnamese from the north came to our land with nothing, but now they own everything that Khmer-Kroms used to possess. The Vietnamese citizens and authorities took over our Khmer-Krom lands, while the Vietnamese government of all levels and their judicial systems did nothing to protect Khmer-Krom’s rights.
The case with a few Khmer-Krom youths that have barely managed to pursue higher education, in hope for a better employment, they now have met their false hope. I have spoken to quite a few back home. They all told me that they have no employment opportunity after graduation, because all good jobs are being taken up by the Vietnamese graduates. Few rare opportunities are available to them but they have to leave their hometown and accept low salary, in contrast to high-paying jobs taken up by the Vietnamese counterpart.
And then Khmer-Krom’s way-of-life, where Khmer-Krom youths can stay and work in Khmer-Krom villages and towns. Khmer-Krom youths need a place where they can go to Buddhist temples to practice our beliefs and to nurture our cultures and customs, and most important of all is to study Khmer language. The only picture I am seeing right now is Khmer-Krom youths back home are leaving in mass to find odd jobs in the Vietnamese towns and centers. Who is there left in the village and town to carry on the Khmer-Krom traditions, when no youth is around? Also, the more Khmer-Krom youths go to work and live in the Vietnamese towns, the tendency that Khmer-Krom youths will start to speak only Vietnamese language, while sacrificing the longevity of Khmer language in our new generations.
All the above-mentioned issues are real today for our youths back home. However, I still see hope in our Khmer-Krom youths in abroad. I believe we overseas youths have the power to change course in our homeland. The essence is by empowering yourself, through education. Education help attain your goals in life and to be a productive member in the society. With a decent employment and financial stability, you can help our community developed to the new level that other ethnic groups around you are already enjoying. All your collective efforts will lead our community to a better place in the 21st century, and hence the world will start to take notice of Khmer-Krom’s cause more seriously. I believe that it is our moral duty that Khmer-Krom youths should be involved in saving Khmer-Krom race from disappearing from the ancestral land of Kampuchea-Krom (south Vietnam).
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04 July 2007
By Kim Pov Sottan
Radio Free Asia
Translated from Khmer by Socheata
Cambodian historians are strongly reacting to a new publication issued by the Vietnamese authority on the history of South Vietnam. The new history publication claims that Kampuchea Krom (South Vietnam) is a land which Vietnam cleared, and that Cambodian people living there are nothing more than refugees fleeing from Cambodia.
Dr Michel Tranet, a Cambodian history researcher, said that this publication is a falsification of history which Cambodia’s neighboring countries undertook in the past 20 years.
Dr Michel Tranet added that Cambodia has numerous stone inscription documents, and that such falsification is unwarranted. Nevertheless, he said that Cambodian historians should hold a meeting to discuss this issue.
Dr Michel Tranet said: “Whatever they say, we don’t care, they write whatever they want to serve the interest of their nation. They don’t write to protect our land, we know this very well, and there’s nothing surprising. Therefore, we must pursue our research based on our stone inscriptions and based on Chinese (historical) documents, so that we learn about the truth. But we must know that they (Viets) are using a subterfuge on Khmer people, we should not be surprised. Therefore, no matter how much more they write, no matter how much they shout out, the most important for us is not to just shout back, we should also organize a meeting (to address this issue).”
The Vietnamese-language document received by RFA, and provided by the Khmer Kampuchea-Krom Federation (KKF) in the world, stated that on 08 March 2007, the Vietnamese Communist Party (VCP) central committee, and the Southwest region headquarters committee have written a new book titled: “The review of South Vietnam’s history for distribution to the Vietnamese population in order to prevent the breakup of the South.”
This book claimed that the culture of the kingdom of Funan, also known as Nokor Phnom (in Cambodian), is not a Cambodian culture, and that this is also goes to the wedding tradition etc… The book went on to say that the Vietnamese presence in the southland (Kampuchea Krom) started since the 16th century AD, and at that time, because of Siamese interference, the Khmer royal family weakened. Vietnamese living in the Tuon Van area then went in to clear the lands in Dong Nai area. Later on Khmer King Chey Chetha II (an ancestor of the current Cambodian royal family) married Ngoc Van, a Vietnamese princess, and he allowed Vietnamese to establish themselves in the south, in the Prey Nokor (Saigon or Ho Chi Minh city) area.
The book went on to say that later on, the Nguyen lords occupied the entire southern area, and became the owners the land, and that later on the Vietnamese fought and won its independence from France in 1975.
The book published by the VCP claimed that Cambodian people living in South Vietnam are refugees fleeing Cambodia after the Chenla kingdom fought and took over the Funan kingdom. These Cambodians were fleeing the genocide perpetrated by the reigning Cambodian king of the time.
The book was rejected by Cambodian historians who said that the Khmer race are part of the Khmer-Mon race which was influenced by the Indian culture. Both the Chenla and the Funan kingdoms were populated by Khmer ancestors and their offsprings until now.
Ros Chantrabot’s history book on Cambodia said that the unification of all Khmer territories took place under the reign of King Pheakveakvarman I, between the 6th and 7th century AD.
Other Khmer history books said that the Cambodian territories during its apogee, extended all the way to China Sea, including the 23 provinces now located in South Vietnam.
Khmer Krom history indicated that the Southern portion of Cambodia was handed by the French colonial regime to the Vietnamese in 1949.
Khieu Kanharith, government spokesman, confirmed that South Vietnam was Cambodia’s territories, and the Cambodian population living there are the rightful owners of the land. He indicated that the Phnom Penh regime is also reviewing this issue.
Khieu Kanharith said: “Whatever document, let us look at it first before we provide an answer. But, to sum it up, even though I did not see (this document yet), Khmer Kampuchea Krom are the owners of the lands and waters there. The entire Kampuchea Krom lands are Khmer lands which the Vietnamese took away because our leaders are mediocre. But, as King-Father recognized it, now that we lost it, he will not demand it back, but he asked that the borders be clearly protected in order to preserve (what is left).”
Ching Ba Kam, an official from the Vietnamese embassy in Cambodia, claimed that his embassy did not known about this history publication yet. “Now, I can’t confirm about this book yet, because I don’t have any information about this issue. But whatever you just said, I don’t know about it, I did not read this book yet, and I don’t know its actual content, I don’t know yet. Therefore, I cannot provide any explanation on this issue.”
RFA attempted to obtain clarifications from the Ministry of Education, and the National Assembly councilor, but so far, we did not receive any answer
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The History:
In the early 1600s the Khmer controlled much of the area now known as South Vietnam as well as Cambodia and large parts of Thailand. Some have speculated that Bangkok is actually a Khmer name for the capital of Thailand because the Thai call it “Kroong Tep” meaning “Divine City”.
Beginning in the 17th century, the Khmer began losing power in South Vietnam. The Khmer lost control of the territory due to corruption, politics, colonization, and wars. Today the Khmer are the minority people, but there are still millions of them. When the French left in 1949, they turned the land over to the Vietnamese, who changed the Khmer names.
The Khmer in Vietnam have their own names for the provinces of South Vietnam, which they still use until today. For example the Vietnamese named province, Tra Vinh, is called Pre Tra Biang (meaning "Lord Bamboo") by the Khmer Krom. Soc Trang is called Khait Kliang. The Province in the far south has kept most of its Khmer name. It is called Ca Mao by the Vietnamese, which means “Dark”, or “Black” in Khmer. The Khmer called Ca Mao by the name of “Dark Water” or “Duk Camao”. Today the Khmer still refer to the city of Ho Chi Minh as “Prei Noe Goe” meaning “Forest Kingdom”.
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Inequality in Primary Education for Khmer Krom Children
2005-05-24
United Nations Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues
Fourth Session
New York, 16-27 May 2005
Item 3(b): Primary Education
Statement by Charlie Tach, representative of the Khmers Kampuchea-Krom Federation
Madame Chairperson and All Distinguished Members of the Delegations:
On behalf of the Khmers-Kampuchea Krom Federation, it is an honor to speak on the issue regarding the inequality of primary education that our Khmer Krom children are currently receiving. Before I start with my speech I want to start with a quote from The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, "Education has a vital role in empowering women, safeguarding children from exploitative and hazardous labour and sexual exploitation, promoting human rights and de-moc-racy, protecting the environment, and controlling population growth. Increasingly, education is recognized as one of the best financial investments States can make". However, sadly in Vietnam, the Vietnamese Government invests a lot on Vietnamese student's education but not on Indigenous student's education. This is becoming one of the major problems that our Indigenous children are facing.
Examples include:
1. The Vietnamese Government prohibits public schools from teaching our Khmer language to our Khmer Krom students.
2. Khmer is not recognized as an official language in Kampuchea Krom and there are no books written in Khmer for our children. Any books written in the Khmer language are censored by the Vietnamese Government.
3. Schools are situated in areas largely populated by the Vietnamese people. Khmer Krom student are forced to travel great distances in order to receive their education. This creates a hostile learning environment for our children.
Madame Chairperson, many children and families find these obstacles too significant to overcome which leads to a wide spread span of education. I recommend the following solutions to improve the primary educational system:
1 The Vietnamese Government needs to invite the Special Rapporteur of Education to investigate the current educational system. Special focus should be in the area of Southern Vietnam where most of our people are suffering from lack of primary education. Agencies such as UNICEF, UNESCO, and World Bank should then implement programs according to the findings.
2 The Vietnamese Government should have written laws to allow the Khmer Krom people to be members of the primary education board of directors.
3 We ask UNICEF who believes "Primary education is the most important component of basic education" to help our children to have Primary Education "available, accessible, acceptable, and adaptable" by building more schools closer to our indigenous people.
4 Billions of dollars in foreign aids goes to the Vietnamese Government on an annual basis. A portion of the monies needs to be invested in helping UNICEF make education in Vietnam more accessible, "especially to vulnerable groups" such as the Khmer Krom people.
5 We ask UNICEF to provide text books and reading books in our language.
6 We ask the Vietnamese Government to allow our Khmer Krom students to learn our culture and language in public schools. We also ask UNESCO who believes in abolishing "discrimination in education" to supervise the curricular activities and make it unbiased.
7 Khmer Krom history should be taught to Khmer Krom children in the primary educational system. We ask World Bank to help finance the programs and UNESCO to supervise it.
8 We ask the World Bank and UNESCO to help establish and fund libraries and art museum so that we can keep our "identities of our culture".
9 The Khmer language needs to be recognized as one of the official languages in Kampuchea Krom. All applications including forms, signs, and legal documents should be written in both Khmer and Vietnamese.
10 We ask High Commission of Human Rights and UNESCO to support creation of Khmer language schools based on culturally sensitive curriculum.
11 We ask UNICEF, World Bank, UNESCO to host indigenous younger internet discussion group like current project where young people can speak out.
Madame Chairperson by implementing these solutions, the door of opportunities will be open for our Khmer Krom students to explore other areas of employment. Through a better education, means greater understanding of their culture and why it's essential, why it's unique, why it's beautiful, and why it should be cherished. In addition with better education more can stand up for what they believe, for we are here today to only give them opportunity. We can only show them the door and it's still up to them to take the initiative to open that door and leap for their rights.
Madame Chairperson, and all distinguish members of the permanent forum we thank you with our deepest gratitude. Thank you!
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YouTube - 2-Khmer Krom, Indigenous Peoples from Vietnam(Reply). thanks you very much for those whom sympathies khmer krom people ... (Reply). great translation and explanation of KhmerKrom history ...
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The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of Cambodia is here.
please work together I believe our nation will be united and strong agian,It is like a mustard seed which when it is sown on the ground, is smaller than all seeds on earth; but when it is sown,it grows up and becomes greater than all herbs.(the evil one)
Will history hunt us again??
The past will not repart it again, Because the geat China and Soviet Union is changing the world is changing.
the world has new issue,climate is changing and lots more...
(just the reminder i'm not politician party just simple cambodian person, that love his country and his people.)
2:29, I am did not contradicting myself. The truth is that you are seeking a miracle from us that we can never provided. We just don't have a magic wand for that.
Our economy is one of the fastest growing on the planet, but Even so, it can only created so many jobs every year, and if you are not working for years, you will be poorer and poorer because the inflation will eat you alive until you find work. No one this planet can avoid such a natural problem, and it is very low of you to penalize us for that because we can't do black magic.
Similarly, you expected us to be corruption free as a poor nation which is just totally outrageous, especially for today ages where our moral value have been destroyed by westerner cultural influences.
Aside from that, the only disagreement that you have with our government is our foreign policy toward Vietnam. And the root cause of that are simply ancient history, and hatred toward Vietnam mainly because of a bunch of Ah Khmer-Yuon refused to accept the fact that there is no such thing as Kampuchea Krom today.
Having said that, you can complaint all you want, and we can't help you with any of the above issue that is natural because we simply can't do magic. Furthermore, all problems that you see today are byproduct of the three previous administrations. It is not something that we (real khmers) created for Cambodia. So stop blaming innocent people for that, will ya?
10:24pm
Somdei Ah niss ber vea min Yuon sot teh vea chea pouk Ah chkae knhom kancheass yuon dach tlai.
You stupid schyco 10:24 PM. we can smell your stinky azz from 1000 miles away.
Shut da fuck up, mee tmill 300 pounds guerrilla!!
The Vietcong government really wants to force Khmer people to think that with time the Khmer people will soon forget and forgive everything the fucken Viet for what they have done to Khmer people!
If Khmer people are too soon to forget and to forgive and Khmer nation, Khmer culture, Khmer patriotism will be disappeared long time ago!
The Vietcong government need to face the real demon inside of them to end all conflict because it will never going to stop because it is like a curse!
It is just impossible for the fucken Viet to rewrite Khmer history to love them in any way shape or form!
10:24 PM
Cambodia cannot survive and it is nonsense to wait for magic or miracle like what you said.
You are blind, stupid and ignorant because how are you proud of economic growth in Cambodia when major economic flows are depending on nepotism. Nepotism as those officers make their living through bribery, corruption and national resource plundering.
You are blind not to see the reality that teachers, workers, soldiers and farmers cannot earn 1$US a day.
You are blind not to see reality that those teachers, workers, soldiers and farmers are exploited by government (Hun Sen leadership) through gifts and donation. Their lives are living like a beggar because the wage from their own ability and energy is not sufficient.
Cambodia no needs any superstition, magic or miracle, but only to stop nepotism/cronyism/favoritism/family trees/corruption/dictatorship so that the economic growth will be fairly distributed.
Regardless of danger Cambodia-Vietnam relation as a key issue, but domestic leadership of Hun Sen is dangerous for future Cambodia.
KY
Bullshit, as of the 20th+ century history, there is no such thing as Kampuchea Krom, so there is nothing to remember. We need not to force you to forget anything.
Nonsense, 12:07, you can't exploit the poor of their wealth because they have nothing to exploit in the firs place.
And you can't distribute anything evenly when each job is for one person, 10 jobs are for 10 persons, not 100 persons ... Thus, your expectation is rediculous.
As for Cambodia future, under SAMSBDDC (Somdach Akkar Moha Sena Bat Dey Dek Cho) Hun Sen, it has never been brighter ever historically. Again, we will never allowed what happened in the 70's, which led by westerner trained administration, to ever happened again.
12:25 AM
I can notice that you have an irrational and nonsense debate in here.
Economic growth means everybody in the society shares fair economic flows, but in case of Cambodia only those high rank officers and business tycoons are becoming richer and richer.
So-called economic growth in Cambodia sustained only corrupted leaders and business tycoons. This is reality that Cambodians have to wake up.
However, Somdech Aka Sena Bodey Sii Choo Hun Sen is so proud of himself, with self-pride, self-value and self-centered leadership style. Now he is raising himself up higher than king and past heroes of Cambodia.
Cambodia should deserve a better leader!
KY
Wrong, 12:42, economic growth does not meant everyone will benefited at the same time. Only a fully growth and developed economy will do that. A 10% growth means there will be 10% more people will get jobs and relieved from hardship. For you to expected otherwise (100%) is highly uneducated.
And yes Cambodia deserved nothing less than SAMSBDDC Hun Sen.
1:07 AM you are full of excuses and garbages in your head just like ah kvack Hun Sen.
ah vkack has nothing to offer to Cambodia. Cambodia deserves a better one.
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Trinh Nguyen Separatist War (1600 to 1786)
During the Le Dynasty 1600's, Vietnam experienced internal chaos. The Vietnamese warlords struggled for power and sought full control of Vietnam. The Trinh clan controlled the northern part of Vietnam while the Nguyen has controlled the south. Consequently, the Trinh and Nguyen wars provided the Vietnamese with opportunity to infiltrate the northeast provinces of Kampuchea Krom in the provinces such as Do Nai, Morea and Toul Ta Mauk.
In 1620, the young Khmer monarch, king Chey Chetha II (1618-1628) had fallen into the similar Vietnam's trap as that of the king of Champa in 1307. The warlord Nguyen Hi Tong (1613-1635) presented one of his exotic daughters, Princess Ngoc Van, to King Chey Chetha II for some favors . Through the Princess' intervention in 1623, the Nguyen warlord sent his representatives to ask the Court of Udong permission for the Vietnamese to conduct trade in Morea (Baria) and Prei Nokor (Saigon ), and be given custom authorities over trading. Because of marriage to the Vietnamese wife, King Chey Chetha II had no strong reasons to refuse but granted the requests. Some historians agreed that these were the covert acts intended to rob the Khmers of their rights. Later, the Court of Hue, again, used the nice guy's trick by volunteering their men to assist the Khmer authority in carrying out the policing in the areas. Some documents in Khmer history have cited that at the start of the relationship, the Court of Hue only asked to use certain areas in Prei Nokor to train their militaries for wars against the Chinese and they would be returned to the Khmer authority in 5 years. But at the death of king Chey Chetha II in 1628, the areas of Prei Nokor, Morea, Do Nai, and Toul Ta Mauk were flooded with the Vietnamese warlord . Kampong Srakartrey (Bienhoa) in 1651; Prah Suakea or Morea (Baria) in 1651; Kampong Kou (Longan) in 1669; Tuol Ta Mauk in 1696; Kampong Krabey Prei Nokor (Saigon) in 1696.
In 18 th century, Mac Cuu a Chinese who received a permission from Ang Eum (1710-22) to con- trol the province of Peam (Hatien), Kramounsar (Rachgia) and Koh Tral ( Phu Quoc island ) in 1722. The provinces of Mesar (Mytho), Kampong Reussey (Bentre), Koh Gong (Gocong) and Peam Ba-rach ( Long Xuyen) were lost to Vietnam in 1732. Phsar Dek (Sadec), Long Ho (Vinhlong), Mot Chrouk (Chaudoc) in 1757, Raung Damrey (Tayninh) in 1770, Prek Reussey (Cantho) in 1758. The provinces of Preah Trapeang (Travinh), Khleang ( Soctrang), Pol Leav (Baclieu), and Teuk Khmao (Camau) were siezed in 1775 and until 18th century our motherland Kampuchea Krom was totally controlled by the Vietnamese 1840.
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Kampuchea-Krom Brief History
Colonization of Preah Trapeang
During the Tay Son uprising (1779-1796), the Srok of Preah Trapeang had given asylum to the fugitive Vietnamese Emperor Gia Long so that he could reconstitute forces against his own warlord Tay Son. King Ang Eng (1779-96) of the Khmer Empire had also provided a military support to this Vietnamese Emperor as a gesture of a good neighbor. However, after regained throne of Annam from the Tay Son, Gia Long arbitrarily turned the Srok Preah Trapeang into a Vietnamese colony.
During his dynasty (1802-19), king Gia Long started an irrigation project in the Province of Mot Chrouk (Chaudoc). Thousands of the Khmer Krom were forced to dig a canal named Chum Nik Prek Teng (Vinh Te), 53 kilometers long and 25 meters wide, from Bassac River to the Gulf of Siam. During this forced labor project from 1813-1820, many thousands of the Khmer Krom were killed. In one particular instance the Khmer workers were buried alive so that the Vietnamese soldiers could use their heads as stove stands to boil water for tea for their Vietnamese masters. The phrase "Be careful not to spill the masters'Tea" is still well reminded to there Children by all Khmer Krom parents or grandparents.
Before the Canal Project well done, Annamite soldiers held khmer laborers into Pillories, each fillory contained about 20-40 people (they said to prevent Khmer laborers run away from mobilization),at least from 2-5 thousand were locked in pillories located in the canal; the dam was opened, water filled the canal, all Khmer laborers were drowned, no one was survive. (Listen to the Te Ong Anussa´s song that means the Master´s Tea Memo).
1:07 AM
I know your standing is to give more incentives to corrupted leaders through economic booming.
I don't expect 100% fair distribution, but at least 10% growth would be fairly distributed to at least 4% to the poor. But as we can see now, poor Cambodian people receive from this growth only 1%, the rests are gifts and donations from those corrupted leaders.
There are schools, roads, hospitals, canals, pagodas...etc are built by those leaders who get salary around 500% per month.
This is your proud and Hun Sen accomplishment?
You admire him and his leadership because you are offspring of those corrupted leaders, I can realize it.
KY
2:12 AM. she is youn. she supports Hun Sen because Hun Sen don't care about Cambodian people and Cambodia country.
2:12, you got to be out of you mind to even think anyone would like to live with thieves and robbers. What, you don't think I care for the safety of my relatives and friends or something? I ain't standing behind no criminals, they just associated in poor countries as well as your own poor states or neighborhoods naturally beyond anyone control, and don't even try to deny it either. You should clean up your poor neighborhood first before you expect other to do that.
As for the economy, it is not a cash growth where you can give $100 here, $50 there, ... . It don't work that way. Allow me to briefly explain: let's say you own a garment business and you employed 100 people. A 10% growth means you will get to hire 10% more people; that is 10 people. As a result, you, as the owner, also get 10% richer, and at the same time, you saved 10 people from suffering without jobs. Get it? That is how capitalist economy work. You can't stop the rich from growing, and in this example, the gap between you and your worker continue to increase. However, at a certain point, you will have problem getting people because they all got work. So to keep your business growing, you going to have to offer your employee more money to work for you or they will all leave, then you'll be in deep shits. Accordingly, the gap between you and the employee will start to level off somewhere where people is satisfied with what they got....
3:32AM
Your theory doesn't reflect the reality in Cambodia. If 10% economic growth can employ 10 people, how about thousands and thousands unemployed Cambodians?
You just focus on business owners and workers, but you are neglecting to mention those corrupted leaders/officers who force business owners to pay them bribery and commit other corruption activities.
Through this bribery activities, they don't kill business owners because the business owners will suck and twist the workers' necks to death. That why workers are still not having sufficient wages to sustain their family need. This not include teachers, soldier, policemen and low ranking officers. They are suffering from corruption, and most the time they are forced to commit corruption in order to survive themselves. This is because of corrupted leader like Hun Sen.
KY
4:40, are you crazy? I am just giving you an example, of a small garment business. If you want to talk reality, then we are talking about 300k jobs total.
And why should I talk about a few corrupted leaders? They don't run the businesses that provided millions and millions of jobs. That is the function of the business sector.
And you are sick, if you think a few corrupted people can make the entire country crumble. That is just your stupid theory. Fact of the matter is Taiwan had a lot more corrupted officials than we do, and they got out of poverty just fine.
And no, Hun Sen is not corrupted. You are accusing him groundlessly because you are trying to keep real Khmer people from running their own country, and that will not happened, alright? So far they did great, and they will stay on forever. You got that? No more westerner trained Bozzoes to run srok Khmer with stupid and unproven theory. We all still feel the effect of their failures, in case don't know.
Hun Sen is not corrupt? hahaha what do you smock?
Taiwan is ranked #34th in the world, where is Cambodia ranked?
Corruption is fine? You stupid 300 pounds fat azzz Guerrilla!!
Wrong, Taiwan was not #34 in 1949. They were just a war torn Island, and it was ran by a corrupted KMT autocratic government; then they became #34 58 years later.
THE QUEEN WAS NO MADAM
by Arnaud de Borchgrave
Benador Associates
May 18, 2005
WASHINGTON, May 18 (UPI) -- The current credibility scandal over a small Newsweek item about a Muslim holy book allegedly flushed down a toilet by a U.S. serviceman to cower a prisoner was a faint echo from a single sentence in Newsweek 42 years ago about a string of bordellos allegedly managed by the queen mother of Cambodia -- and that changed the course of history.
In early fall 1963, when I was Newsweek's managing editor for International Editions and foreign editor of Newsweek's U.S. edition, the magazine ran a long piece from a staff correspondent about Cambodia. Referring to Prince Sihanouk's powerful family, the article said, "The Queen mother runs a string of bordellos on the edge of the capital," Phnom Penh.
Based on my own experiences in Indo-China in the early 1950s, it didn't strike me as unusual. Because almost everything about Cambodia and Sihanouk was unusual by American standards. Massage parlors, houses of ill-repute and opium dens were the equivalent of stopping for one on the road before going home.
Had I double-checked it with our correspondent in Phnom Penh, who spoke impeccable French, we might have discovered in time that the bordellos were on land the queen mother owned, but she had nothing to do with leases, let alone being the madam.
The sugar hit the proverbial fan two weeks later when an English-speaker in Phnom Penh -- rare in those days -- spotted the item in the overseas edition of Newsweek and brought it to the attention of Sihanouk. He went public with what he said was "lese-majesty" and demonstrations and riots followed as if on cue.
Sihanouk had been looking for such an opportunity for some time. He denounced the United States, which, in his mind, was clearly behind the insult. He demanded an apology from the U.S. government, which President Kennedy was not about to give (he was assassinated two months later).
In November 1963, Sihanouk terminated the economic and security assistance agreements with Washington. He also demanded the immediate departure from Cambodia of all non-diplomatic U.S. government personnel. The final rupture in diplomatic relations came 18 months later, May 3, 1965. Meanwhile, Cambodia had begun soliciting and accepting military assistance from Communist countries as well as from France. Sihanouk's FARK army received four Soviet MIGs to launch a military-assistance program, in which China also joined.
The chain of events triggered by that unfortunate Newsweek piece led to Sihanouk secretly granting to the North Vietnamese access in 1966 to the deep-water port of Sihanoukville (later Kampong Saom). With the complicity of ranking FARK officers, Sihanoukville became a main entrepot for North Vietnamese military supplies from China and the U.S.S.R. This was a shortcut for the Ho Chi Minh trails. Armaments were then transported to North Vietnamese and Vietcong sanctuaries on the border with South Vietnam, ironically over the "Friendship Highway" built with U.S. aid, and in trucks supplied to FARK under the U.S. Security Assistance program.
In 1969, continuing this long saga, the United States undertook the first of two bombing campaigns against NVA and Vietcong bases inside Cambodia along the South Vietnam border. This drove the enemy deeper inside Cambodia. On June 11, 1969, Sihanouk told a news conference "there is now war between Cambodia and Vietnam," i.e., the United States.
Sihanouk left for France in January 1970 for medical treatment. The Cambodian National Assembly lost no time voting no-confidence in Sihanouk and FARK commander Lon Nol then staged a bloodless coup and replaced him as chief of state.
This led to the President Nixon-ordered incursions into Cambodia late April and early May.
"Thousands of North Vietnamese and Vietcong soldiers are invading Cambodia from their sanctuaries and they are encircling the capital," said Nixon.
The bid to overrun and destroy NVA and VC depots and sanctuaries did not result in the capture of the underground Central Office for South Vietnam, which was Hanoi's advance headquarters for directing the war against the United States and South Vietnam, but it yielded vast quantities of enemy supplies and it bought time for Washington and Saigon to proceed with "Vietnamization."
Nixon's final thrust of the sword simply drove enemy units deeper into Cambodia, overrunning FARK posts as they went, and soon all of northeastern Cambodia had fallen into NVA/VC hands. The communists then proceeded to turn the captured areas over to the Khmer Rouge insurgents.
Five years later, Congress yanked the rug from under Lon Nol's forces, cutting off all aid to the pro-U.S. government -- and the Khmer Rouge marched into Phnom Penh. In less than a week, they had emptied the capital of all its inhabitants and marched them off to the jungle where they were slaughtered. Almost 2 million lost their lives.
The Newsweek story about Sihanouk's mother was simply the first tug on a ball of wall the mercurial prince wished to unravel anyway.
After the fall of Cambodia to the communists, British author William Shawcross accused Henry Kissinger of being a war criminal responsible for the U.S. bombing of Cambodia and the killing of thousands of innocent civilians. In recent years, Sihanouk has admitted what Vietnam doves repeatedly denied. He did give Washington a wink and a nod to bomb North Vietnam's privileged sanctuaries inside Cambodia. Most of the civilians in those border areas had already been evacuated. And Shawcross has apologized to Kissinger.
Copyright 2005 by United Press International.
hahah what da fuck are you talking about? you compare Cambodia today with Taiwan in 1949?
yes, i can tell you are very proud of your work behind Hun Sen to destroy Cambodia.
Well, why should I compared Taiwan today to Cambodia today? That is sick. You have to look at what Taiwan did to get out of poverty, and it certainly wasn't Democracy, hahaha, LOL, hahaha.
5:14 AM
I can smell your favoritism and family nepotism to justify corruption of current Cambodia government. It is your job to protect Hun Sen and his government because your dad or family can further earn special incomes from corruption activities. You might know your dad's monthly wage cannot make a living at all, but he might be able to live luxuriously from what source of money?
You are blind, cannot see the reality that low salary officers in Cambodia can make their living luxury like king of England and millionaire in US or other parts of the world.
Just step in Phnom Penh, the smell of corruption is stinky. Many luxurious cars and villars are belonging to high rank officers driving and emerging crosses Cambodian handicaps, street children and beggars. For example, Hok Lundy's house is grander than Royal Palace.
What is your theory that corruption is good for a country. Your example of Singapore is irrelevant. This is really stupid idea to believe that having corruption in order to improve economy.
Cambodia doesn't have few corrupted peoples. Starting from all top leaders to lower governmental officers in villages and communes. Those official workers say the same voice that they cannot survive if they don't commit corruption. Through corruption tradition, teachers, soldiers, policemen and farmers have learned to commit corruption and it seems become an usual habit now.
Cambodia should not deserve to be a thief zone to make their living by stealing or corrupting.
Hun Sen is not corrupted? I am groundless? Tell me, where is Hun Sen's source of money to feed his 4000 personal bodyguards? Where is Hun Sen's source of money for his children to own many business companies including Phnom Penh TV3? Where is Hun Sen's source of money to build uncountable schools, roads, pagodas by inscribing his name there? Please, tell me. Don't be stupid around with irrelevant logics.
I cannot understand how good is your brain, when you see white as black, and black as white.
KY
OK, 6:39 AM i read you clearly now!! you are here just to destruct people from having a constructive discussion. you are a youn agent.
Under ah kvack leadership that you are proud of, Cambodia has to wait another 49 years to be better like Taiwan today. You are right on that!
to YUON XEN 5:14 AM (are you crazy? I am just giving you an example, of a small garment business. If you want to talk reality, then we are talking about 300k jobs total.
And why should I talk about a few corrupted leaders? They don't run the businesses that provided millions and millions of jobs. That is the function of the business sector.
And you are sick, if you think a few corrupted people can make the entire country crumble. That is just your stupid theory. Fact of the matter is Taiwan had a lot more corrupted officials than we do, and they got out of poverty just fine.
And Hun Sen is not corrupted. You are accusing him groundlessly because you are trying to keep real Khmer people from running their own country, and that will not happened, alright? So far they did great, and they will stay on forever. You got that? No more westerner trained Bozzoes to run srok Khmer with stupid and unproven theory. We all still feel the effect of their failures, in case don't know).
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I've answered to the above comment.
How about the traitors king chey chettha II, Xihanouk and ong LAKEY HUN XEN?
They have only Khmer nationality. But they gave our land to YUONS.
One nationality or two...so on, it doesn't matter. The matter is the person loves and serves our country and no corrupted like Sam Rainsy.He and his wife were very rich, succesful business peson when he Lived in France. He doesn't need to steal Khmer people anymore, (unlike The former commandant Khmer rouge YUON XEN who had nothing and now has become one the richest man in Asia. You never wonder How he and his family have got hundreds millions dollars as personal fortune. How is his annual salary? can he explain that?
The answer is he sold our land to imperialist Yuon. Did you understand it?
7:15, if you want to be like Taiwan, just go to Taiwan. People here just want to work to feed their family, okay?
http://sokheounpang.wordpress.com/the-second-year-anniversary-of-the-illegal-treaty-15-october-2005/
The Second Year Anniversary of the Illegal Treaty 15 October 2005
Dear Beloved Countrymen,
Today is the second year anniversary of the extension for legal control of Vietnam over Cambodia legalized by a group of traitor leaders installed by the Vietnam in the 1979, i.e. the Supplemental Treaty signed by Hun Sen on October 15, 2005 which in its spirit to validate the 1985 illegal treaty back to life.
It is the day that we must remember and witness as long as we live from generation to generation that our territorial integrity and sovereign are sold to another country by our leader.
However, I personally never recognize the present day leader, Hun Sen, as the leader of Cambodia . In my eyes, he is just an unconstitutional leader, a traitor and an untruthful person.This is because he has come to power constitutionally wrong started in the 1980s by Vietnem’s instalation-puppet, indirectly killed hundreds of thausand Cambodian by K5 policy, in 1993 by threatening war after the lost of the election, in 1997 by coup, in 1998 by fraud and unfair election with hundreds of our beloved students, monks, and peasant killed and disappeared, in 2003 by amending the national constitution for his greedy power by means of the packet vote after national election in 2003.With his unconstitutional Prime Ministership, he irresponsibly and authoritatively signed the illegal Supplemental Treaty on 15 October 2005 with Vietnam in order to validate the 1985 illegal treaty which violates the spirit of our national constitution and the 1991 Paris Peace Accord and with this he does undermine our national independency.
In order to get the public trust, he always keeps saying that all the Treaties signed in the 1980s do not make Cambodia loses her land, yet Cambodia will gain land from Vietnam through them because Vietnam are pity on us. However, he never keeps his promise and dare to face the reality. He politically never accepts any offer of evidences from our nationalists, scholars, and our beloved people who live along the border who witness the daily invasion. And more importantly, he never keeps his word. I do remember that I asked him to bet life with me in the case of territorial integrity in October 2005 after he signed the illegal Supplemental Treaty 15 October 2005 with Vietnam. Taking this opportunity, I would like to tell him officially that the bet is still valid and I do urge him to accept it in order to bring about the truth and bring back national unity, full independency, and pride as a Nation, otherwise I will never recognize him as a Cambodian leader or my leader forever but just a traitor and an untruthful person.
Let’s mourn together and condemn this act of Hun Sen!
Pang Sokheoun
Former President of SMD
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Written by Administrator
Sunday, 01 January 2006
IMMIGRATION VIETNAMIENNE au CAMBODGE
(par Dr. Sakhonn CHAK)
Des Immigrés particuliers Combien sont-ils ???
Au temps de Protectorat:
- En 1859: environ 2000 à 3.000 Yuons,.
- Au début du Protectorat ( Traité du 11 Août 1863), en Octobre, le 1er Représentant Français, Doudart Delagrée les estimait de 4 000 à 5 000 Yuons.
- Onze ans plus tard, en 1874 : 9.452 Yuons.
- Au début du 20ème siècle, le Protectorat les chiffrait à 61.105.
- Le 1er recensement de Novembre 1921: 140.225 dont 27.352 urbains ( 58.684 Chams et Malais).
- En 1938 : Beauchateaud les proposait à 300.000 dont 140.000 urbains.
- Dans les années 40 : le chiffre semble s’être stabilisé aux environs de 300.000 Yuons, 115.000 Chinois et 60.000 Chams.
- Les statistiques de 1950 donnaient une légère augmentation de 319.596 Yuons dont 119.960 urbains.·
- en 1951 : Jean Delvert les estimait à 230.000 (Jean Delvert, Professeur d’université, Le Paysan Cambodgien, Thèse, Paris, 1961)
Après l’Indépendance (1953) jusqu’au 1970 (Le SangKum Reastr Niyum) :
Le recensement de 1962 était le plus fiable et crédible, justifiant une population totale de 5.797.260 dont 240.500 Yuons (habitants de "langue maternelle vietnamienne " ) dont 206.100 habitants de "nationalité vietnamienne.
- Rémy Prud’homme, en 1967,: environ 250.000 Vietnamiens au Cambodge, soit un peu plus de 4% de la population totale. (Rémy Prud’homme, Professeur d’université, L’Économie du Cambodge, Paris, P.U.F., 1969).
Remarque : S’il n’y avait pas de guerre, les Yuons et la population du Cambodge s’accroîtraient avec un taux d’environ 2,6%. Les Yuons représentaient entre 4 à 5% de la population totale.
Sous le Régime Républicain 1970-1975:
La guerre (1970-1975) a causé de gros dégâts tant en vies humaines que matériels et fait chuter considérablement le taux d’accroissement de la population.
- les bombardement des B52 Américains et l’entrée des troupes Thieu-ky au Cambodge ont causé entre 500.000 à 800.000 perte en vies humaines parmi la population cambodgienne ( selon Gérard Brissé).
- Jacques Migozzi a estimé au début de 1970 le nombre de Vietnamiens au Cambodge à 450.000, soit 6, 6% sur une population totale de 6.800.000 habitants. (Jacques Migozzi, Chercheur au CNRS Cambodge, Faits et Problèmes de population, Paris, 1973).
- Kampuchea: A Demographic Catastrophe : 6.877.000
- (Research for this report :on 17 January 1980- Central IntelligenceAgency Washington, D.C. 20505.
Sous le Régime des Khmers Rouges-KR (1975- début 79) :
- Ben Kiernan, Professeur d’histoire à Yale University, mandaté par l’ONU, a fait une recherche approfondie sur le génocide des KR.
- 1.671.000 ont trouvé la mort dont 1.327.000 Cambodgiens, 215.000 Chinois, 90.000 Chams, 20.000 Yuons et 21.000 autres ( Montagnards, Thailandais et Laotiens).
- Nombre des survivants estimé : entre 6 à 6,7 Millions.
- ( Le Génocide au Cambodge 1975-1979, Ben Kiernan, 1996 Yale University). Les Yuons ont subi moins de perte que les autres .
- Kampuchea: A Demographic Catastrophe : 6.141.000 (début 1979),
- (Research for this report :on 17 January 1980- Central Intelligence Agency Washington, D.C. 20505.
Sous l’occupation Vietnamienne (1979 - 2005):
- Kampuchea: A Demographic Catastrophe : 6.141.000 (début 1979), è5.521.000 (1 January to 1 December 1979),
- càd il y avait 620.000 morts et départs du Cambodge en 1979)
- (Research for this report :on 17 January 1980- Central Intelligence Agency Washington, D.C. 20505.
- "Une hypothèse prudente et nuancée" : Jacques Népotes a indiqué qu’en 1980, suite à la guerre, au génocide, l’exil, l’expulsion par les Vietnamiens et la dénatalité, la population totale du Cambodge serait tombée à un peu moins de 5.000.000 d’habitants.
- (Jacques Népotes, Chercheur au CNRS, Démographie et Société dans le Cambodge des XIXe-XXe siècles, in Mondes en Développement, Paris, Economica, 1979), Paris, Economica, 1979)
- Ce dernier chiffre est à comparer aux 7.000.000 d’ habitants annoncé par la République Populaire du Kampuchéa en 1980 .
Sous l’occupation Vietnamienne (1979 - 1992):( Suite)
- Le 06 janvier 1988 : Interview de Hun Sen avec Peter Sohier (Asian Affaire), Cf. K.L Bindra: è 7.995.000 habitants dont 20 à 26% immigrants (1.600.000 à 2.000.000 non khmers).
- En November 1992: Forum sponsored by the National United Front for The Liberation of Vietnam: 2.000.000 Vietnameeses in Cambodia.
- En 1992 : la Banque Mondiale a estimé : 9.001.315 habitants.
- Si l’on se base sur l’étude de Jacques Népote, avec une croissance annuelle moyenne de 2,6 % (moyenne très "optimiste" pour la période 1980-1990, mais c’est celle que le Cambodge a connue dans les années 1960) et sans nouvelles immigrations vietnamiennes, la population totale du Cambodge ne dépasserait pas 6.803.000 habitants en 1992.
Sous le Régime Hun Sén et N. Ranaridh (1993 - 1997):
- En mai 1993, l’APRONUC a enregistré 4.764.430 électeurs (de 18 ans et plus) et a estimé la population totale du Cambodge à 8.820.766 d’habitants.
- En 1995, dans le Web Site du Royaume du Cambodge: 10.300.000 habitants.
- En 2000, selon Khmer Intelligence qui cite le Ministère de l’Intérieur : 12 millions habitants.
- Novembre 16, 2003, Khmer Intelligence,, Latest figures from the Interior Ministry show that Cambodia’s population has now reached 13.8 million versus 12 million in 2000.
- En 2005, K.L BINDRA: 13.500.000 habitants dont 4 à 4,5 Millions Yuons.
CONCLUSION
- A ce jour, en 2005, la population cambodgienne arrive à 13,8 M, dont 4 à 4,5 Millions Yuons.
- Ce ne sont guère des immigrés « normaux ».
- Cet accroissement du nombre des yuons est contraire à celui des autres communautés étrangères au Cambodge. Elle ne suit pas une courbe d’évolution régulière, mais avec des hausses et des chutes absolument extraordinaires.
- En fait, dans le passé comme aujourd'hui, les Vietnamiens n'émigrent vers le Cambodge que s'ils y sont particulièrement encouragés et protégés par les pouvoirs vietnamiens et/ou par les autorités cambodgiennes.
- Depuis 1979, le nombre de cette population augmente d’une façon exponentielle. Ce n'est plus une "immigration", mais une véritable INVASION, permise et protégée par le gouvernement pro-yuon actuel.
REFERENCES
(1) Jean Delvert, Professeur d’université, Le Paysan Cambodgien, Thèse, Paris, 1961.
(2) Rémy Prud’homme, Professeur d’université, L’Économie du Cambodge, Paris, P.U.F.,1969.
(3) Jacques Migozzi, Chercheur au CNRS, Cambodge, Faits et Problèmes de population, Paris, 1973.
(4) Ben Kiernan, Le Génocide au Cambodge 1975-1979, Yale University, 1996.
(5) Research for this report :on 17 January 1980- Central Intelligence Agency, Washington, D.C. 20505.
(6)Jacques Népotes, Chercheur au CNRS, Démographie et Société dans le Cambodge des XIXe-XXe siècles, Mondes en Développement, Economica, Paris 1979.
(7) Norodom Sihanouk, Souvenirs Doux et Amers, Hachette, Paris, 1981.
(8) Sakhonn Chak, Nombre des Viets, période SRN, Lettre à SM Norodom Sihanouk du 17 juillet 2003.
(9) Kareth Dy, Le Nombre des Vietnamiens au Cambodge de 1953 à 2003, CFC, Paris, 31 octobre 2004.
(10) K.L Bindra, Lettre ouverte à SM Norodom Sihanouk du 12 septembre 2005.
(11) Autres documents historiques et de recherches (Khy Phanra, Gérard Brissé, Tranchard But, ….)
7:38, nationality does matter. We don't want no French to run Cambodia. If we are going to have any foreigner to run Cambodia, we would preferred only winners like Yuon Hanoi. Otherwise, we'll stick to 100% Khmer.
Furthermore, being successful does not necessarily mean you can run a country. Bill Gate, Ross Peroll among other successful people can't run the country successfully. They will destroyed the country within a few short years like in the 70's.
And your idea for PM to be rich, he must steal is just sick. Fact of the matter is, even if PM salary is zero, he can still be rich without stealing. If that isn't the case, we won't have that many people competing for PM, isn't that right?
And no, PM Hun Sen can't sold Ah Khmer-Yuon's land to Yuon because there is no such thing to be sold. Get it?
Holly craps!! I have been talking to a schyco woman, mee chkourt 7:40 AM. You talk about Taiwan tpoic, not me.
yes, all you care is your azz and pocket. that is why you do whatever it takes to feed your hunger of money, even if it mean to corrupt or destroy Cambodia progress. Cambodia deserve better than day by day under ah kvack Hun Sen who has a back ward thinking just like his agent, you, ayoun agents.
we need to vote him out. And all the destructive youn must be deported back to where they belong.
To comment 7:38
I did say foreigner can run Cambodia but Khmers SOT with other nationalities.
For you succeeded business people cannot run the country successfully but AH KWAK MAKHANG uneducated can run.
USA have always educated people to run their country.
and their presidents have to declare their revenue.
Can HUN XEN declare his revenue and his family like USA
Sure you can say I have favorite, but it certainly not for corruption. Unlike, you westerner people with low moral value, I have not been influenced by your westerner people all that much. Thus, I still hold every drop of Khmer my moral value, 6:45. Moreover, we are not rich as you think we are. If anything we are just middle class. We don't even own a car. We often used company's car or minivan for our vacation. As for my favorite it is to have real Khmer sitting in PM and DPM position because I have more confidence in them to run their own country than I have for others. And so far I am very proud of their works.
And no, I am not blind, I never stated that we are a corruption free country, but for you to claim that the entire government is corrupted is totally nonsense. If that were the case, there will not be enough businesses here to maintain our economic growth, AND THAT ISN'T THE CASE.
Yeah sure, most of our big shots live in mansion, drive nice car, maid and chauffeurs, but how much do you think all the asset worth?
And no, I never said it is good to have corruption, but you must be wise on how to solve it. Let say, we lost $150M annually. Here what you don't want to do is to spend $150M to resolve it. I would spend 5-10% of the lost, top. As I said, you can't get rid of corruption without get rid of the poverty. And as we grow out of poverty, the corruption will reduced naturally too because no one will take a risk if they got enough to feed their family.
And your idea that Hun Sen has to paid for body guard is not correct. The state paid for that. And when you are PM, Lobbyist is the source to your wreath. There is no need to steal anything. Get it now?
9:00, Cambodia is Real Khmer country. As such only Real Khmer should run it, okay? not Ah Khmer-Yuon/Leu/Barang/.../or UK.
And FYI, our economic growth is 9.5% this year. You called that a failure? How much better can you do, huh?
Also, we have plenty of educated and business people here. PM need not to know everything. All he have to do is to consider their advices.
And yeah, we have declared our income and revenue. Didn't you see the article on revenue for 2008's on KI here. It will be about $1.5 billions.
shut da fuck up mee chkourt, 9:20 AM
you need totake your schyco medication.
9:07 AM
Yes, you have corrupted clan favoritism.
You answered me only one question and said that Hun Sen is not a corrupted man. But let look at your answer, it is absolutely wrong, why? because Cambodian national constitution doesn't allow any state leaders to have body guards more than 5 to 8. So if those 4000 personal body guards are using national budget, it must be Hun Sen himself (dictator) has gravely violating national constitution. Cambodian ordinary people cannot violate law, but Hun Sen can violate all laws including this body guard expenditure.
You avoid from other 2 questions because you are blindly justifying that Hun Sen is not a corrupted prime minister. This not include Hun Sen's brothers and sisters and nephews who commit corruption as well as crime and drugs.
I know sometime you have to say good about Hun Sen for your personal safety. This thinking is more evidenced that Hun Sen is a real corrupted leader and dictator thug.
About economic flows can work in corrupting situation too, but the social gap and injustice is huge like you see in Cambodia. Alleviating poverty doesn't guarantee to lessen corruption if Cambodia has no law enforcement; and corrupted leaders clan and families are not dismantled.
Reported by ADB and WB that Cambodia has lost its national revenue 500 millions per year. This money can give salary to civil services for years. Your number is wrong, dude.
So, don't try to justify a wrong thing: black and white is different color.
KY
9:20AM
$1.5 billions fiscal budget is income and revenue? learn some more before you open your mouth. you sounded like total blind follower!
Yes, I did said PM Hun Sen is not corrupted many many times and I stand behind my word. I have been investigated him for a few years on and off before I decided to support our Prime Minister for the CPP. Furthermore, I knew corruption link to a bunch of other the NGO as well, but our PM is clean.
As for body guard, the real number is classified, and I can't tell you how many, but 4,000 is a lot, do you have picture of them something or you just like to go by rumors as usual.
And what is your question #2?
No, no one is required to say anything good about PM to safe. They can just shut up. What is dangerous is not from PM but his loyalists. It is part of our culture, and I love it. If you accusing someone before the wrong person, they just beat the crap out of you or even killed you, and it has nothing to do with PM whatsoever. Even Sam Rainsy got loyalists, and as well as Royalists.
At large, you theory about corruption is not correct. It will never added up. You have to realize that we have tens of thousands of investors from all over the world who came to Cambodia to make money. And to make money, business people value all customers, local and abroad. The last thing they like to see is customers who can afforded their products. Thus, it is illogical to say that these businesses is here to keep people suffered by getting into corruption. I never heard of such business philosophy before.
And if you said World Bank or ADB had reported that we have lost $500M, I like to see the source, because that is 100% false because $500M is a big chunk of our total annual revenue.
Are we happy yet?
10:28, whatever you are looking for (budget or revenue) is available, alright? Just contact our Financial ministry for it. To me, it make not difference because we spend almost all of our revenue.
shut da fack up, mee tontop carch sa'oiy!!
they talk about ah kvack and his corrupted officials (including you) declaring personal assets, not gov revenue or budget for fiscal year 08. mee lop arch ksir!!
11:02 AM
I know how much you are trying to protect Hun Sen in order to remaining your family clan to receive around salary of 100$ a day but have luxurious cars and house.
Toul Krosang is a bodyguard military base. You are so stupid and blind that don't know Hing Bunheang that even though Cambodian beggar know him as Hun Sen's bodyguard leader who is leading almost 4000 soldiers.
2 questions you are blind to elaborate are below:
1. Where is Hun Sen's resource of money to assist his children to run many business company including to own Airline Company and Phnom Penh TV3?
2. Where is Hun Sen's recourse of money to build hundred of schools, canals and pagodas by inscribing his name there?
I don't need to prove you the ADB and WB's report on corruption 500M in Cambodia because it is useful to justify you.
Because, though I prove or tell you the truth of rampant corruption in Cambodia, you still stupid use a very low reason to support your corrupted leaders and family clan.
KY
Stupid Dude,
In case of safety because Hun Sen encourage his gangsters (loyalists) to harm those who criticize him, that why broadly criticism to Hun Sen is in a dangerous situation.
You dare not criticize Hun Sen, but finally you might die before me. You know your future? For me, I don't know my future as well.
I assure you that you can criticize Sam Rainsy, he himself has no behavior of using violence, he has no many bodyguards equipped by weapons like Hun Sen, or encourage his loyalists to injure any body who stand up to criticize his wrong doing. He mostly welcome all criticisms in order to adjust himself. I am siding with him, but I can understand his past record and his behavior copying from French (tolerance) not from VN (dictatorship).
KY
12:03, Personal asset is personal. No one is required to show it unless it is ordered by the court for a certain investigation purpose.
And just because some people volunteered it, it doesn't mean everyone have disclosure their asset also, you moron. It is freedom of Choice
Bodygard Unit 4,000 soldiers.
70 Brigade 2,000 soidiers.
911 PIR 3,000 soldiers.
PM 7,000 soldiers.
12:58, loyalist is not something new here. It has been with us for centuries. We have been trained to trust our leader no matter what. In every regime in Cambodia, not just PM Hun Sen, if you criticized the leader before someone you don't know (need not be spy or buddy guard), then you are putting your life at risk. Even if you called the leader by their first name, you will be at risk. Don't tell me you don't know about that. It is just part of our culture, dude. Don't try to twisted beyond that, alright?
psycho woman, 11:02 AM
you have no brain for politic. I thought you know about Cambodia. now i noticed you are just stupid and blind by bribery of Hun Sen regime.
You haven't had a clue what are you talking about, but just bullshit around here and there to fit your psycho egos.
you are such a irrelevant- irresposible-illogical-ignorant stubborn woman ever exist on earth.
no wonder you get hated by people in every forum of www. you, mee chkourt, still don't get it, do you?
you Psycho woman 1:06 PM
it is exactly what corruption is all about when you are unwilling to declare your personal assets. that means ah kvack and his gangsters (including you) are unclean. mee lop!!
you stupid psycho tries to defend ah kvack moron hahaha you both match. that is why Cambodia is full with youn and going backward.
Shit, 1:41, if what you said is true, then we are in trouble, dude. Most Khmers don't like to tell anyone about their asset. Thus, we are talking 99% of Khmer people are corrupted.
And for cry out loud, I don't even know what my mum's asset is. hahaha, LOL, hahaha.
haha Now you urgently need Psycho medication even more, 1:17 PM.
Yope, now you know. 99% of ah kvack's officials backed by youn trojans like you are corrupted.
this jerk needs to be voted out for a better Cambodia.
Off course, you psycho!! you don't need to know your mum's asset, but Uncle Sam does. why do you file income tax every year, stupid?
Shut da fuck up, mee chor chour chiert!! your brain is too small for politics. I will call on you if i need you to spread your fazt azzz, ok?
Wrong, what we really needed to get out of Cambodia is Ah Khmer-Yuons criminals who came to still our jobs and lands and to kill Khmers..
Oh quit your bullshit. what da fcuk is all about khmer-youn, youn khmer, khmer khmer, youn youn, anyway?
you have no ground and are full with garbage and stupidity as always. get a life, FART AZ!!
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Get help!
Imperialist YUON invade Srok Khmer with the help of the traitors, secret agents HUN XEN, CHEA XIM, HENG SAMRIN, Great king kong father XIHANOUK, coward king XIHAMONI
In 2005, in Cambodia - KHMERE population:9, 3 Millions,
- YUONS population 4 à 4,5 Millions
And in 2008 how many YUONS in our country? And how many YUONs will participate to our election to our destiny?
Sam rainsy, our hero , how could you win the 2008 election? How could you save our country from YUON annexion?
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