Preah Vihear to top the agenda of Samak's visit to CambodiaFriday February 29, 2008
WASSANA NANUAM
Bangkok Post
Preah Vihear will top the agenda of Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej's official visit to Cambodia, starting Monday. A military source said the prime minister would talk to his Cambodian counterpart about jointly proposing the Preah Vihear Khmer temple ruins, called Khao Phra Viharn in Thai, as a World Heritage site since the two countries have yet to settle the border demarcation in that area which is located in Kantharalak district of Si Sa Ket.
Moreover, the Thai side believes the area that covers about 7.2 sq km should not be included in the area to be designated a World Heritage site.
Last year, Cambodia tried to register the site with the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (Unesco) alone. But the UN agency delayed its decision, urging the two countries to resolve the issue together.
''Due to the unsettled border, Cambodia cannot register the ruins alone. If Cambodia wants to apply for World Heritage status, the proposal should be jointly submitted with Thailand because the area is supervised by two countries.
''If Cambodia pushes on with its idea, it should not include the 7.2 sq km disputed area because it means Thailand might lose its sovereignty over the area in question,'' the source said.
Mr Samak's trip will follow a two-day official visit to Laos which begins today.
A meeting of the World Heritage committee will be convened from July 4 to 12 in Canada.
Moreover, the Thai side believes the area that covers about 7.2 sq km should not be included in the area to be designated a World Heritage site.
Last year, Cambodia tried to register the site with the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (Unesco) alone. But the UN agency delayed its decision, urging the two countries to resolve the issue together.
''Due to the unsettled border, Cambodia cannot register the ruins alone. If Cambodia wants to apply for World Heritage status, the proposal should be jointly submitted with Thailand because the area is supervised by two countries.
''If Cambodia pushes on with its idea, it should not include the 7.2 sq km disputed area because it means Thailand might lose its sovereignty over the area in question,'' the source said.
Mr Samak's trip will follow a two-day official visit to Laos which begins today.
A meeting of the World Heritage committee will be convened from July 4 to 12 in Canada.
34 comments:
this issue still have a lot of discussion to go. again, sounds like it's not really the preah vihear temple is in question, now, it,s the 7.2 sq. km land near it as claimed by thailand and cambodia. this issue might called for the world to judge thailand again, once and for all (this time permanently). no vague area after this. wait and see what the world has to say. i'm sure the cambodian people will protest thailand's claim and diplomatic ties between the two kingdom may be sour after this.
you know, when think about it, cambodia should not have left this temple area isolated for so long. cambodia should have build a village and fence a long, long time ago! i hope the new generation of khmer leaders will build fences in this areas of preah vihear permanently so thailand can see that there's the real borderline. vote to build a permanent fence to mark the border with thailand, if not the entire stretch of borders, at least the immediate areas between thailand and cambodia in the preah vihear areas. we can not afford to wait any more or much longer on this crucial issue. learn from this: do not leave this area isolated any longer!!!!!!
Resolve the border issue and build the wall. By the bad intent, they don't deserve any of it.
Wow, top agenda to wrap up border dispute, I love the new Thai PM already.
This is "News du jour" for me because it means more economic zones and developments for Khmer and Thai people.
May God be with you, your Excellency (Samak Sundaravej)
Long Live Cambo-Thai Frienship!
I have an idea about Thai Government to leave our ancient temple alone, Because we have something they want to do business with.
In our kingdom of Cambodia have many things,The most important thing they want to do business with is"the offshore oil" in the block B. Which they sign contract with our Government in the past,We Can discontinue their contract if they don't leave our ancient temple alone.
I say make 50/50 and done with it. That way, we can develop the damned area and make everyone happy, after all we're all brothers.
When the Thaicong leaders come to Cambodia there are several things Cambodian leaders can do!
The only negotiation is not to negotiate with the Thaicong leaders on Khmer Phrea Vihear temple!
The only discussion is not to discuss anything with the Thaicong leaders on Khmer Phrea Vihear temple!
Cambodian leaders don't need to give a dam what Khmer Phrea Vihear temple called in Thaicong language!
Cambodian leaders needs to tell all the Thaicong leaders in straight face that they really hate their gut and any negotiation to violate Cambodian sovereignty will not promote peace and stability!
By the way there is no such thing as unsettle border issue because the Cambodian map of 1904 and 1908 showed a clear define map of Cambodian sovereignty over Khmer Phrea Vihear temple! Sometime it takes arrogant behavior to deal with the Thaicong arrogant behavior! These fucken Thaicong leaders can get back on the plane and go back to their country if they can't accept solid evident such as Cambodian map of 1904 and 1908 as the guiding principle for any civilize negotiation!
It is the nature of every Thaicong leader to create dispute with Cambodia to pursue their blind political ambition to impress the Thaicong population to show how patriotic they can be otherwise these fucken Thaicong leaders won't stay in power for long and another military coup will be on the way!
Cambodia must not allow the Thaicong leaders to pimp Cambodian Phrea Vihear temple to attract tourist dollar for their own economic interest at the expense of Cambodia because what belong to Cambodia will belong to Cambodia!
No, the only people we don't talk with is terrorist, and the Thai is not terrorist. They are our brother, and we will be flexible just as you are flexible with your own brother.
WASSANA NANUAM
Preah Vihear will top the agenda of Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej's official visit to Cambodia, starting Monday. A military source said the prime minister would talk to his Cambodian counterpart about jointly proposing the Preah Vihear Khmer temple ruins, called Khao Phra Viharn in Thai, as a World Heritage site since the two countries have yet to settle the border demarcation in that area which is located in Kantharalak district of Si Sa Ket.
Moreover, the Thai side believes the area that covers about 7.2 sq km should not be included in the area to be designated a World Heritage site.
Last year, Cambodia tried to register the site with the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (Unesco) alone. But the UN agency delayed its decision, urging the two countries to resolve the issue together.
''Due to the unsettled border, Cambodia cannot register the ruins alone. If Cambodia wants to apply for World Heritage status, the proposal should be jointly submitted with Thailand because the area is supervised by two countries.
''If Cambodia pushes on with its idea, it should not include the 7.2 sq km disputed area because it means Thailand might lose its sovereignty over the area in question,'' the source said.
Mr Samak's trip will follow a two-day official visit to Laos which begins today.
A meeting of the World Heritage committee will be convened from July 4 to 12 in Canada.
To 1:21PM
Hey if you think you are so flexible and why don't you turn around and bend down for me! You and your Thaicong brother in crime together! Go back to Thailame and stop being a fucken thief!
Bullshit, you ain't gonna keep any tension between us and our brother Thai for another 200 years and causing people to suffer here, moron.
Preah Vihear, You Fool, not Khao Phra Viharn.
You're pick on the stupid language now?
No matter what Preah Vihear or not, they always find matter to be discussed. Do not deal with them in the first place. HUN SEN should know that without Thailand, Cambodia can survive. Do not talk with them regardless of Preah Vihear or lands. Don't!
Yeah, but then how are you going to develop the area so that people can get job? Don't you know people can only take so much suffering? After that they will kill each other or do whatever it takes to survive. We have seen some related news here already. People have been shot for stealing from their own neighbor. Girl have jump off the bridge because she has lost all hope. And you are worry about losing a piece of stone? If that girl was a live do you know what she will tell you?
Okay, you throw yourself over the bridge and we'll promise not to talk with the thai about the stone. How does that sound?
To 10:11PM
AH HUN SEN are smarter than you when it come to develop any area such as Khmer Phrea Vihear temple and AH HUN SEN is not afraid to kick Cambodian people off the land at gun point when it is time to develop the area to attract tourist!ahahhahah
Khmer Phrea Vihear temple won't be isolated for long and soon the highways will be connected to Khmer Phrea Vihear temple and the area will be flood with tourists and land speculators and the economic boom is inevitable!
For you to bring such stupid example just to scare Cambodian leaders and Cambodian people into cooperating with the Thaicong clandestine agenda to rob Cambodian people and to make more money of their culture heritage from tourism isn’t go to happen!
I had been all over Cambodia and many part of Cambodian provinces are poor because of the lack of road and highway system to interconnect the rest of the country and more roads must be built to connect all part of Cambodia to stimulate the free flow of goods and services and, to reduce Cambodian high density population such as in Phnom Phen and to lift these dirt poor Cambodian out of poverty at the same time by provide basic services!
It is very funny that the Thaicong has only recently had such interest in developing Khmer Phrea Vihear temple but then again no thank! The fucken Thaicong army had been too busy killing Cambodian people and burn down Cambodian people house along Cambodian border for years and now they want to develop? The fucken Thaicong can develop their side of the border and any cross over development into Cambodia without Cambodian leaders’ permission will lead not lead to peace and stability!
Fear no Thaicong!
Bullshit, we have a lot less road and infrastructure in the past and we don't have the problem that we have now. Thus, we need to settle the dispute and develop the area for the people, and we will, because we are Government For the People. There is no way around it.
To 5:59AM
I am not with you mother fucker so don't even use the word "we" with me! Settle or not Cambodian must not allow the fucken Thaicong to have their fucken way and their fucken way is to pimp Cambodia to make money for them! If the fucken Thaicong want the money so bad and they need to go out there and earn the money the hard way but to pimp Cambodia for money is a no and no proposition!
Cambodia can’t allow to be the Thaicong bitch or the Vietcong bitch!
"We" needs not to include all, especially you, you idiot (6:38). We don't want no Gorilla.
hey, brother-want-to-be, crooked, dickhead, or pussyhead, siem. get lost! i don't thing khmer people want to be your brother and sister. stop making a wishful thinking and stop dreaming about owning cambodia because if you do, you will get a blackeye and we will plug your eyes and nails out of you body, alive. plus, khmer people will make you our slaves for life in cambodia. so you are better off staying at home in your own country!
Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah ...
What the hell are you waiting for? No one can wait for you for 200 years, you know?
To 10:10AM
Hey! The Vietcong withdraw their troop from Cambodia in 1989! So who is next? You want to be next? Nobody is stopping you from coming to Cambodia! If you have 200,000 soldiers and can spend $1 million a day and can last for 10 years and you are more than welcome to come to Cambodia and that not even include the weapons systems, food and supply, the diseases, the offensive in dry season and wet season, and million and million of land mines beneath your feet!
The Vietcong should consider themselves lucky because they have AH HUN SEN to back them up but in your case who is going to back you up?
Cambodia welcomes any aggressor to hell!
Oh shut the fuck up. Even if we were to give all our oil away it is still aint gonna do shit.
To 11:41AM
What are you waiting for and you should be drumming up your soldiers to invade Cambodia right now! Hahahhahhahahahha
What the matter and you are chicken out already! You haven't taste the art of guerilla warfare haven't you?
It is the nature of human to destroy things and to recreate things!
3:20, Cambodia is our Vietnam's forever Pal. As such, we have to work together. There will be no invasion, unless we were invaded, like KR did.
You have to understand the important living next to each other. If we leave Cambodia behind, they will be poor and spread disease all over the place and infected our people, not to mention the influx of illegal immigrant ... , and that can be costly to Vietnam. Plus, as member of ASEAN, we are obligated to look out for each other health....
Get the picture?
3:20 PM
Hey, fuckhead! You should be in a construction business. Really!
To 5:07PM
Since when, the Vietcong has an obligation? The real obligation of the fucken Vietcong is to make sure that Cambodia will inherit the Vietcong problem especially their economic problem and their overgrowth population problem! I can't blame the Vietcong government for making Cambodia to take care of over 4 million illegal Viet immigrants in Cambodia because the illegal Vietcong immigrant are poor and desperate have nowhere to go!
What the Vietcong government needs to fear is the problem of the Khmer Krom people who want their freedom and the fucken Vietcong government can't go on forever oppressing the Khmer Krom people like animal! If the fucken Vietcong government disowns the Khmer Krom problem and one day the volcano will erupt and burn all the Vietcong into misery!
No thank for the Vietcong help because the Vietcong can’t even help themselves!
To 1:30AM!
You fucken Vietcong slave mother fucker! You must be fucken blind to know who is in power right now! Whoever in power will be the one to do all the construction business and that explain why you see all the fucken land grabbing from dirt poor Cambodian people for the so called development under AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave puppet government!
No one can be in the construction business unless AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave allows them and even the Korean company asked AH HUN SEN to be in the construction business! In fact Cambodia is experiencing a runaway construction all over the places with no careful planning and it will become a serious problem in the future!
Your head had been fuck up by the Vietcong propagandas for too long for you to say that I should be in construction business and if I can I would be million and million by now!
Welcome to Camko City! Ahahhahahha
Darn it, 7:44. How many times do I have to tell you that we do not grab land from legitimate owner, only from illegal squatters. I know some of them claimed to have title and all, but when you bought government land from scammers, our court can't uphold that against legitimate owners, get it? No court can.
7:29, stop dreaming. Vietnam got enough benefits from ASEAN, and they need not to take advantage of any neighbors, get it?
To 8:09AM!
"Cambodia is a nation of squatters," explains David Pred. "But the biggest squatters are the elite, the military generals, the people who’ve grabbed thousands of hectares of land and sold it off in bits and pieces."
http://www.towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/1227/1/
T0 8:14AM
You don't know what the hell you are talking about!
The fucken Vietcong government must consider family planning to curb their population growth! And soon the Vietcong problem with their population will be Cambodian problem!
Cambodian people better watch out because the Vietcong are coming!
Look who's talking? The Vietcong have a good grip on their population long ago. We are the one who still haven't got it under control, and it had effected the shit out of our economy. How are you going to reduce unemployment when you keep on manufacturing hundreds of thousands of babies annually. For Cry out loud, we can only generated between 300-400k job per years right now.
Please!!Just do the right thing and be happy.
Have been, and will be.
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