21/02/2008Radio Australia
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Cambodia goes to the polls this July in an election that most observers expect will merely consolidate the power of Hun Sen's Cambodian People's Party. One man who hopes that is not the case is the leader of Cambodia's opposition Sam Rainsy.
Presenter - Sen Lam
Speaker - Sam Rainsy, leader of the Sam Rainsy Party
LAM: First of all what brings you to our country, what's the purpose of your visit?
RAINSY: I am visiting the Cambodian communities in Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide.
LAM: Well Cambodia's economic growth has been strong for the past few years, the Khmer Rouge leadership is on trial, infrastructure is improving. Do you think Cambodia is finally now on the right track to a bright future?
RAINSY: Yes there has been some progress, there is some development, but this development has not been sustainable is not equitable either. A group of people get richer and richer whereas the majority of the people remain poor.
LAM: But surely you can't argue that the government of the CPP has managed to get Cambodia on this track?
RAINSY: No we are moving very slowly, we could have hoped much faster given the huge amount of international assistance we have received. And natural resources have been depleted and in exchange for that we have a relatively limited growth and the growth as I just pointed out, has not improved, the living conditions for the majority of the population.
LAM: So in your mind you think the government has not properly exploited the foreign aid that has flowed into Cambodia?
RAINSY: No the foreign aid has been misused because of corruption, corruption is rampant and corruption has caused so many destruction of the natural resources, and has allowed government officials to sell state assets and to grab land from poor farmers.
LAM: Well whether or not the government has performed well for the Cambodian people do you accept though that Hun Sen and the CPP does have a stranglehold on power in Cambodia for years to come given that elections are due in July?
RAINSY: Things are changing, there are demographic trends, there are social trends, economic trends, technological trends; all these will lead Cambodia to change.
LAM: Do you think the Cambodian people is beginning to develop a sense of political awareness, to be more active in Cambodian politics?
RAINSY: Definitely, especially among the young. Half of the Cambodian population is under 20 and two-thirds of the population are under 30, and those young people are relatively more educated, their expectations are higher, so therefore they will push for a change.
LAM: The elections are not far away, do you see the next generation, this new generation of young people that you speak of, do you see them more actively participating?
RAINSY: Definitely because they suffer from unemployment, over half of these young group of people cannot find jobs and living conditions and those of their parents are not improving, and they want to live in a more just society. So they will push for democratic change.
LAM: Hun Sen, the Prime Minister says the CPP intends to continue its coalition with Funcinpec, even after the next election. Are you disheartened by that?
RAINSY: How can you marry a dead people, Funcinpec is dying and this so-called Royalist party will be completely dead after the next election.
LAM: But nonetheless though it does pose a major challenge to the Sam Rainsy Party, to the opposition does it not with this coalition if it continues?
RAINSY: Our objective is to be the number one party and we are moving forward, our share of the popular vote has been increasing and given the trends I have just mentioned, I expect that the force represented by people who want a better and more just society, these forces will prevail.
LAM: So you hold great hope for the coming elections?
RAINSY: Yes provided that the elections are relatively free and fair, at least that election will not distort the will of the people.
LAM: And yet several of your MPs had defected to the CPP, aren't you worried about the integrity of the Sam Rainsy Party?
RAINSY: This is not the first time as we approach elections the ruling party is trying to buy some of our officials, but we are not worried about that, on the contrary it will make our party stronger because it is an opportunity for the younger generation to replace the old one.
Presenter - Sen Lam
Speaker - Sam Rainsy, leader of the Sam Rainsy Party
LAM: First of all what brings you to our country, what's the purpose of your visit?
RAINSY: I am visiting the Cambodian communities in Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide.
LAM: Well Cambodia's economic growth has been strong for the past few years, the Khmer Rouge leadership is on trial, infrastructure is improving. Do you think Cambodia is finally now on the right track to a bright future?
RAINSY: Yes there has been some progress, there is some development, but this development has not been sustainable is not equitable either. A group of people get richer and richer whereas the majority of the people remain poor.
LAM: But surely you can't argue that the government of the CPP has managed to get Cambodia on this track?
RAINSY: No we are moving very slowly, we could have hoped much faster given the huge amount of international assistance we have received. And natural resources have been depleted and in exchange for that we have a relatively limited growth and the growth as I just pointed out, has not improved, the living conditions for the majority of the population.
LAM: So in your mind you think the government has not properly exploited the foreign aid that has flowed into Cambodia?
RAINSY: No the foreign aid has been misused because of corruption, corruption is rampant and corruption has caused so many destruction of the natural resources, and has allowed government officials to sell state assets and to grab land from poor farmers.
LAM: Well whether or not the government has performed well for the Cambodian people do you accept though that Hun Sen and the CPP does have a stranglehold on power in Cambodia for years to come given that elections are due in July?
RAINSY: Things are changing, there are demographic trends, there are social trends, economic trends, technological trends; all these will lead Cambodia to change.
LAM: Do you think the Cambodian people is beginning to develop a sense of political awareness, to be more active in Cambodian politics?
RAINSY: Definitely, especially among the young. Half of the Cambodian population is under 20 and two-thirds of the population are under 30, and those young people are relatively more educated, their expectations are higher, so therefore they will push for a change.
LAM: The elections are not far away, do you see the next generation, this new generation of young people that you speak of, do you see them more actively participating?
RAINSY: Definitely because they suffer from unemployment, over half of these young group of people cannot find jobs and living conditions and those of their parents are not improving, and they want to live in a more just society. So they will push for democratic change.
LAM: Hun Sen, the Prime Minister says the CPP intends to continue its coalition with Funcinpec, even after the next election. Are you disheartened by that?
RAINSY: How can you marry a dead people, Funcinpec is dying and this so-called Royalist party will be completely dead after the next election.
LAM: But nonetheless though it does pose a major challenge to the Sam Rainsy Party, to the opposition does it not with this coalition if it continues?
RAINSY: Our objective is to be the number one party and we are moving forward, our share of the popular vote has been increasing and given the trends I have just mentioned, I expect that the force represented by people who want a better and more just society, these forces will prevail.
LAM: So you hold great hope for the coming elections?
RAINSY: Yes provided that the elections are relatively free and fair, at least that election will not distort the will of the people.
LAM: And yet several of your MPs had defected to the CPP, aren't you worried about the integrity of the Sam Rainsy Party?
RAINSY: This is not the first time as we approach elections the ruling party is trying to buy some of our officials, but we are not worried about that, on the contrary it will make our party stronger because it is an opportunity for the younger generation to replace the old one.
20 comments:
Thank you Lok Sam Rainsy.
Good luck Mr. Sam Rainsy. You're one of the great statesmen of Cambodia. May God Bless you and your country.
Mr. Sam Rainsy,
Congratulation on your outstanding works for Cambodian people. I am very confidence of your leadership.
Thank you for visiting us in Australia. You are difference from other Khmer politicians who came to Australia but never have the gut to see Khmer community.
May I take this opportunity to congratulate and thanks to your representatives in Sydney whom done a great jobs to represent SRP and you. From my observing and heard from people, they are the role models and very delicated.
I strongly hope that after the 2008 election, Cambodia will have a very new and clever Prime Minister.
That Prime Minister is Excellency Sam Rainsy. And then Cambodia will have the real development, independant nad real democracy.
The traitor, HUN XEN, will face thousand of suit cases.
Dear Readers,
Please allow me to take this opportunity to share a comment with you.
To my point of view and my observation of the real situation in Cambodia at present time, i believe that Mr. Sam Rainsy is an outstanding, high-educated one who is never get involved with corruption and very suitable to lead our country after the national election in 2008. He is the only one that gives us confidence. He has been strving hard for many years to bring a genuine democracy to Cambodia even though he is always obstructed by the rulling party.
I see that almost 100% of CPP officials are nepotism and corrupt from grass root.They have led the country for more that 3 decades, but brought little growth to the country. They have made a big gap between the rich and the poor. Their group become richer and richer but the people poorer and poorer.
I would like announce to the people of all stratas. Please use your own power to change the country's fate from the grip of the current rulling party and vote for a real democratic leader . He is Mr.Sam Rainsy.
I strongly believe that if you choose Mr. Sam Rainsy as your leader, our country will surely be prosperous and civilized like other developed countries in the world.
Thank you!
Great Leader Sam Rainsy!
I have always supported your enduring works to bring just and advancement to Cambodia.
I can notice that your answer in here is highly reflective to your charismatic leadership in contemporary Cambodia.
I can see your win-win strategy is: incorporative, not competitive; corporation, not confrontation.
The winner is not SRP or Sam Rainsy, but the winner is Cambodian peoples and our beloved nation.
When Cambodian peoples vote for Sam Rainsy to become prime minister, it doesn't mean Sam Rainsy is prime minister, but it means Cambodian peoples will have social just, sufficient employment, basic rights, dignity, and national harmony.
All CPP's members and current officials are highly respected and remained you all in the same position according to your experiences, capacity, and devotion.
KY
If we Khmer are smart, we will vote for Mr. Sam Rainsey. The word needs to get out. Please vote for the right PM. and Vote for Mr. Sam Rainsey in July!!!!!!
I really congratulate Mr. Sam Rainsy for his hard work. Please keep up the good work. Our innocent Cambodian needed you. I hope once you get your postion as the Leader of our country please don't ignore or break the promises. Please call on all kind of investors to invest our country so our younger generations has job to do to sustain their life. Good Luck. May lord Buddha bless you!
I agree with all Mr. Rainsy's saying here, however, I am still waiting for the Alliance of SRP and HRP.
The divide of democrats Cambodia, will always allow the CPP to be in power forever.
Please learn from Ukraine's case and Pakistan's last Sunday election.
This 2008 election is about Democrats vs. Communists, please make it the case.
Koun Khmer.
Very true, in Pakistan people would never think Musharraf will never defeated. But people is the power. And Mr. Musharraf got to go.He is just like Mr. Hun Sen and behave the same and would never step down but now is defeated.
Musharraf's Days Could Be Numbered
By MATTHEW PENNINGTON – 1 day ago
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) — Pervez Musharraf has survived combat as a career soldier and assassination attempts as president. Now the will of his own people has pushed him to the precipice.
A sweeping opposition win in elections has diminished the U.S.-backed leader's political standing as never before and many predict his days in power are numbered.
Musharraf has already given up his command of the army, and his rock-bottom popularity at home has diminished his effectiveness to his Western allies in the fight against Islamic extremism.
"I don't see him surviving. It is just a question of time," said Shafqat Mahmood, a political analyst who is a prominent commentator in Pakistani newspapers and television.
Monday's elections, in which the ruling party mustered just 15 percent of the vote, exposed how little support Musharraf has among Pakistan's 160 million people. Many are alarmed at rising Islamic militancy, weary of prolonged military rule and angry at high food prices.
The parties of Bhutto and former prime minister Nawaz Sharif, whom Musharraf ousted in a 1999 coup, came close to winning the two-thirds majority needed to impeach the president. According to nearly complete official returns, Bhutto's party has 33.6 percent of National Assembly seats, and Sharif's 25.9 percent.
"The fact that parties opposed to Musharraf won the election was a clear denunciation of his actions and politics," Mahmood said. Key aides of the president, including the chairman of the ruling party, a former top government spokesman and the foreign minister, even failed to win parliamentary seats.
On Tuesday, Sharif reiterated his demand for Musharraf to step down — recalling the president's statement last year that he would resign if he ever lost the support of the people.
"He has closed his eyes. He has said before that he would go when the people want him to do so and now the people have given their verdict," Sharif told reporters in Lahore.
The weight of public animosity derives partly from Musharraf's tight alliance with the White House in fighting the Taliban and al-Qaida — a battle few now see in Pakistan's interests.
Yet perhaps more critically, it reflected anger over the military's dominance for the past eight years, and Musharraf's maneuvering to remain in power, which culminated in the state of emergency he declared in November to stop the Supreme Court from overturning his re-election as president by the previous parliament.
"Instead of being the unifying figure he is pretending to be, Musharraf has led Pakistan into a dark alley," said Rasul Baksh Rais, a political science professor at Lahore University of Management Sciences. "The only way he can survive now is through manipulation, and the more he does that, the more public sentiment will go against him."
Musharraf will try to hang on, telling the The Wall Street Journal in an interview posted Tuesday on the newspaper's Web site that he intends to remain in office and work with the new government.
"We have to move forward in a way that we bring about a stable democratic government to Pakistan," he said.
He agreed the election outcome was a reflection of Pakistanis' dissatisfaction with his government, citing economic problems and his attempt to rein in judges as well as sympathy for the opposition after Benazir Bhutto's assassination.
"All these things had a negative impact," Musharraf said.
The elections were widely perceived in Pakistan and abroad as a triumph for democracy and the nation's "moderate majority" — a phrase used Tuesday by visiting Sen. Joe Biden. But Musharraf faces a formidable task to persuade the victors he is a man they can work with.
While the leader of Bhutto's party, her widowed husband Asif Ali Zardari, has yet to rule out working with Musharraf, most analysts say the retired general's deep unpopularity would make him a political liability.
"'Go Musharraf, go!' will pick up very quickly," said Rais, referring to the protest slogan raised by lawyers who have rallied for the deposed chief justice, Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry. "It will be his (Zardari's) choice whether to be with the forces of change or with an individual widely despised in Pakistan."
Athar Minallah, a prominent Supreme Court advocate lobbying for Chaudhry's release, said that unless the next parliament restores judges axed by Musharraf by March 7, lawyers from across Pakistan would "lay siege to Islamabad" — not an enticing prospect for a new civilian government.
If the pre-emergency judiciary is reinstated, it would likely revisit the case that led to its ouster: whether Musharraf's re-election was constitutional. That could again endanger his position and lead to another political crisis.
Hasan-Askari Rizvi, a political analyst, said if a coalition government of Bhutto and Sharif's parties is able to win the support of independent lawmakers and achieve a two-thirds parliament majority, it is likely to seek Musharraf's impeachment.
Still, the United States is urging the elected government's leaders to work with Musharraf, a former special forces commando who has escaped at least two al-Qaida assassination attempts since he allied Pakistan with the U.S.-led war on terror groups and who remains a trusted ally.
"Ultimately President Musharraf is still the president of Pakistan and certainly we would hope that whoever becomes prime minister and whoever winds up in charge of the new government would be able to work with him and with all other factions," State Department spokesman Tom Casey said Tuesday.
Bhutto's party could agree to that to avoid upsetting the U.S., the chief aid donor to impoverished Pakistan, as it comes to grips with government after nearly 12 years out of power, said Zaffar Abbas, an editor at the Dawn newspaper.
Sharif, whose party fared better than expected in the election and won control of the key province of Punjab, might be willing to compromise on Musharraf's survival provided other parties are seen to take responsibility for letting him off the hook.
But Musharraf would have to "learn to live compromises and a very reduced role. If he doesn't, it's a recipe for disaster for the democratic system and for President Musharraf himself," Abbas said.
Pakistanis Deal Severe Defeat to Musharraf in Election
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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistanis dealt a crushing defeat to President Pervez Musharraf in parliamentary elections on Monday, in what government and opposition politicians said was a firm rejection of his policies since 2001 and those of his close ally, the United States.
Almost all the leading figures in the Pakistan Muslim League-Q, the party that has governed for the last five years under Mr. Musharraf, lost their seats, including the leader of the party, the former speaker of Parliament and six ministers.
Official results are expected Tuesday, but early returns indicated that the vote would usher in a prime minister from one of the opposition parties, and opened the prospect of a Parliament that would move to undo many of Mr. Musharraf’s policies and that may even try to remove him.
Early results showed equal gains for the Pakistan Peoples Party, whose leader, Benazir Bhutto, was assassinated on Dec. 27, and the Pakistan Muslim League-N, the faction led by Nawaz Sharif, like Ms. Bhutto a former prime minister. Each party may be in a position to form the next government.
The results were interpreted here as a repudiation of Mr. Musharraf as well as the Bush administration, which has staunchly backed him for more than six years as its best bet in the campaign against the Islamic militants in Pakistan. American officials will have little choice now but to seek alternative allies from among the new political forces emerging from the vote.
Politicians and party workers from Mr. Musharraf’s party said the vote was a protest against government policies and the rise in terrorism here, in particular against Mr. Musharraf’s heavy-handed way of dealing with militancy and his use of the army against tribesmen in the border areas, and against militants in a siege at the Red Mosque here in the capital last summer that left more than 100 people dead.
Others said Mr. Musharraf’s dismissal last year of the Supreme Court chief justice, Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, who remains under house arrest, was deeply unpopular with the voters.
Mr. Musharraf, who stepped down as army chief last November after being re-elected to another five-year term as president, has seen his standing plummet as the country has faced a determined insurgency by the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and a deteriorating economy.
By association, his party suffered badly. The two main opposition parties — the Pakistan Peoples Party and the Pakistan Muslim League-N — surged into the gap.
By early Monday night, crowds of Sharif supporters had already begun celebrating as they paraded through the streets of Rawalpindi, the garrison town just outside the capital, Islamabad. Riding on motorbikes and clinging to the backs of minivans, they played music and waved the green flags of Mr. Sharif’s party decorated with the party symbol, a tiger.
From unofficial results the private news channel, Aaj Television, forecast that the Pakistan Peoples Party would win 110 seats in the 272-seat National Assembly, with Mr. Sharif’s party taking 100 seats.
Mr. Musharraf’s party, the Pakistan Muslim League-Q, was crushed, holding on to just 20 to 30 seats. Early results released by the state news agency, The Associated Press of Pakistan, also showed the Pakistan Peoples Party to be leading in the number of seats won.
The Election Commission of Pakistan declared the elections free and fair and said the polling passed relatively peacefully, despite some irregularities and scattered violence. Ten people were killed and 70 injured around the country, including one candidate who was shot in Lahore on the night before the vote, Pakistani news channels reported.
Fearful of violence and deterred by confusion at polling stations, voters did not turn out in large numbers. Yet fears from opposition parties that the government would try to rig the elections did not materialize, as the early losses showed.
Official results were not expected until Tuesday morning, but all the parties were already coming to terms with the anti-Musharraf trend in the voting.
At the headquarters of Sheik Rashid Ahmed, the minister of railways and a close friend of the president, his supporters sat gloomily in chairs under an awning, listening to the cheers of their opponents. “Q is finished,” said Tahir Khan, 21, one of the party workers, referring to the pro-Musharraf party.
The party workers said Mr. Ahmed, who was among the ministers who lost their seats, was popular but had suffered from the overwhelming protest vote against Mr. Musharraf and his governing faction.
The results opened a host of new challenges for the Bush administration, which has been criticized in Congress and by Pakistan analysts for relying too heavily on Mr. Musharraf. Even as Mr. Musharraf’s standing plummeted and the insurgency gained strength, senior Bush administration officials praised Mr. Musharraf as a valued partner in the effort against terrorism.
With Mr. Musharraf as both president and head of the Pakistani military — a post he relinquished last November — the administration poured about $1 billion a year in military assistance into Pakistan after 9/11.
After Mr. Musharraf stepped down from the army, the Bush administration still gave him unequivocal support. Last month, the assistant secretary of state for South Asia, Richard A. Boucher, told Congress he considered the Pakistani leader indispensable to American interests.
Such fidelity to Mr. Musharraf often raised the hackles of Pakistanis, and the newspapers here were filled with editorials that expressed despair about Washington’s close relationship with the unpopular leader.
Many educated Pakistanis said they were irritated that the Bush administration chose to ignore Mr. Musharraf’s dismissal in November of the Supreme Court chief justice.
The big swing against the Pakistan Muslim League-Q party that supported Mr. Musharraf appeared to bear out the position of the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations committee, Joseph R. Biden Jr., Democrat of Delaware, who has been a critic of the administration’s Pakistan policy.
On his arrival on Sunday to observe the elections, Mr. Biden said: “I don’t buy into the argument that Musharraf is the only one. We have to have more than just a Musharraf policy.”
As a starting point for a new policy, Mr. Biden said the United States needed to show Pakistanis that Washington was interested in more than the campaign against terrorism. He suggested that economic development aid be tripled to $1.5 billion annually.
But Washington could take some comfort in the losses of the Islamic religious parties in the North-West Frontier Province that abut the tribal areas where the Taliban and Al Qaeda have carved out bases.
The greatest blow for Mr. Musharraf came in the strong wave of support in Punjab Province, the country’s most populous, for Mr. Sharif, who has been a bitter rival since his government was overthrown by Mr. Musharraf in a military coup in 1999 and he was arrested and sent into exile.
He returned last November, and although banned from running for Parliament himself, he has campaigned for his party on an openly anti-Musharraf agenda, calling for the president’s resignation and for the reinstatement of Mr. Chaudhry and other Supreme Court judges.
Underscoring the reversal for Mr. Musharraf was the downfall of the powerful Chaudhry family of Punjab Province, who had underwritten his political career by creating the Pakistan Muslim League-Q party for him.
“The myth is broken; it was a huge wave against Musharraf,” said Athar Minallah, a lawyer involved in the anti-Musharraf lawyers’ movement. “Right across the board his party was defeated, in the urban and rural areas. The margins are so big they couldn’t have rigged it even if they tried.”
A few hours after the size of the defeat became clear, the government eased up on the restrictions against Aitzaz Ahsan, the leader of the lawyers’ movement that has opposed the president. Mr. Ahsan, who has been under house arrest since last November, when Mr. Musharraf imposed emergency rule for six weeks, found the phones in his house were suddenly reconnected.
“Musharraf should be preparing a C-130 for Turkey,” Mr. Ahsan said, referring to Mr. Musharraf’s statements that he might retire to Turkey, where he spent part of his childhood.
Two politicians close to Mr. Musharraf have said in the past week that the president was well aware of the drift in the country against him and they suggested that he would not remain in office if the new government was in direct opposition to him. “He does not have the fire in the belly for another fight,” said one member of his party. He added that Mr. Musharraf was building a house for himself in Islamabad and would be ready soon to move.
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I know Cambodian politics are very complicated for average people to uderstand the whole picture of who is the good guy and who is the bad guy. My suggestion is: follow your fellow Cambodian intellectuals who see things better... SRP has consistently done well in in big cities such as Phnom Pehn and has trememdous support from Khmers overseas, where Cambodians have better access to education vs the CPP has consistently done well with the less educated in the rural where they are more vulnerable to the ruling party's threat and vote buying.
I know the less educated will not see this message but SRP must take the message out to them. Thank you!
Sam Rainsy knows how to talk, but he doesn't know how to walk the walk.
See a post recently 'Who to vote for'
That is why the CPP wants to keep our people less educated. Do you know back then why the YOUN agents killed or encouraged KR to kill our educated people? Cause those people will rebel or object to their goals. Nowaday, CPP or YOUN agents don't want to see us more educated. So they can contain us. But this is impossible for them, looks like the new generations are very smart and more educated now. Now CPP really in the tight spot or and fear one day these hundred of thousand of intellectuals will uprise and demand for work or better life style. CPP is under pressure of younger intellectuals now. Khmer will be living better if you elect Sam Rainsy.
After 1979, CPP don´t know how to lead the country, so they had bring 20 000 Vietnam experts to help them from the village to city to. Instead, the SRP will not do like this but SRP need only the Khmer experts.
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Want to be optimistic but can't see that SRP will win out right in 2008 election as seen in Pakistan even if SRP and HRP are to be one party.
Youth intellectuals alone would not be enough votes to secure the land slide victory unless secure more if not all grassroots people votes.
Shall do more during the campaign to convince that you are and will always be there for them.
NO WAY THAT SRP WILL WIN THIS 2008. BUT A STEADY MOVE WILL SUCCEED. THIS IS A KEY ELECTION, IF SRP CAN NOT IMPROVE AS SEEN IN 1998, 2003. THEN, SRP SHOULD CHANGE WHOLE POLICY, OTHERWISE IT WILL BE LIKE FUNCIPEC NOW.
SO FAR, SO GOOD!
It is time for change. we cannot predict the CPP will win again. People power will bring change anytime. Be optimistic!
can anyone tell me.. if SRP were to win the election, would Hun Sen and his gang give up easily? wouldn't they use force or all kinds of dirty trick to cancel the election results?
although i totally agree with 6:35 that there is NO WAY that SRP will win this 2008 election.
He must give up. The UN will surely looking into that. Like we all know, the police, or state workers should stay neutral because whoever wins the election, they would still have their career.
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