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After threatening to sue Sacrava for drawing political satirical caricatures of Mr. Hor Namhong, Mr. David Meas, presumably under instructions from Mr. Hor Namhong, is threatening to sue Khmerization. Khmerization believes that this kind of litigation threat is an intimidation against Khmerization into silence and an infringement on Khmerization's freedom of speech. The articles published at Khmerization are published and posted at The Cambodia Daily website, The Phnom Penh Post website, Everyday.com.kh website etc. Unless David Meas and Hor Namhong can successfully intimidate these websites to remove the articles in question from their sites, Khmerization has no obligation to remove them from this site. Also, I wish to inform Mr. David Meas that I have no obligation to elect any lawyer to represent me in this matter as has been requested by you. And thank you Mr. David Meas and Mr. Hor Namhong for giving this blog prominence.The following is a letter from Mr. David Meas to Khmerization:
Dear Sirs,
I am acting as French counsel for Foreign Minister of Cambodia, Mr. Hor Namhong.
I have noted that on your web site, named Khmerization.blogpost.com, the following articles are advertised, namely:
- “Hor Namhong , his wife and his son were chiefs of Boeng Trabek prison” (May 4, 2008);
- “Hor Namhong vs. Sam Rainsy, Defamation vs. Crimes against Humanity?” (May 6, 2008);
- "Sam Rainsy plans to sue Hor Namhong" (May 5, 2008);
- “Let’s Battle it out: The Defamation Case of Hor Namhong vs. Sam Rainsy” (April 18, 2008).
The content of those articles could be sanctioned by a court of law, as being in particular libelous, slanderous and defamatory for Mr. Hor Namhong.
In this respect, I draw your attention to the fact that in a 1991 judgement, the Paris courts ruled that similar allegations were defamatory for Mr. Hor Namhong.
Therefore I put you on notice, on behalf of Mr. Hor Namhong, to immediately take all measures so that those articles, and other articles which would be in the same vein, be deleted from your web site.
Mr. Hor Namhong obviously reserves all his rights against you and any other participants or contributors to this matter. Please indicate me the name of your attorney-at-law in this matter.
Sincerely yours.
David Méas
Attorney at Law
29 comments:
Freedom of Speech, my arse, Gorilla Fucker.
Oh, pa . . . .lease! Chom Tet Dket of Sue, Ah Lop!
Pouk Ah Oss Nis, Chker Chkout Men Ten! Tam Sue Ke Sue Ange. I will try to dig out the so-called "counsel" backgrounds. I'll contact his boards.
it is a nice template. Mr. David Meas should make many copies of the same template and send each to individual who (posted article)discuss about the former chief of Boeng Trobaek prison.
PM Hun Sen usually says "Meas sot min klach ploeng". what is the problem here? People say what the record stated and what he himself confessed. be cool and be strong like PM Hun Sen. if it is neccessary, go all the way to Khmer Rough Trial in order to clear up your name, which is what you should do, not forbid media from broadcasting your record.
Excellent comment, 11:35 p.m.! I could not have said better than you. Thanks for sharing!
Dear Mr. David Meas
My name is Chea Knuy. I am the lawyer representing all the contributors, commentators, and websites that published the articles relating to your client Mr. Hor Nam Hong. I have been appointed to defend all of my clients, thus any correspondences regarding the law suit in this matter please contact me via posting on ki-media.blogspot.com and I'll respond to you in kind.
This is a cyber court, and it's quick and low cost. It's an honour to have you as my opponent. I hope you are worthy to be my opponent, and let's fight this case in a civilized way. May buddha bless you.
Respectfully Yours
Mr. Chea Knuy
WWW Cyber Attorney
go and get a real job, Mr chomkuot Meas.
11:35 AM,12:05PM and 1:35Pm, very, very good comments. 12:05 Pm, you make me laugh until my tears come out.
អា ហោ ណាំហុងបាននិយាយថា ឈឺចាប់ណាស់ ដែលប្រជារាស្រ្តខ្មែរគ្រប់រូបថា អា ហោ ណាំហុង ជាមេគុកបឹងត្របែក ក្នុងសម័យខ្មែរក្រហម ប៉ុន្តែសូមជំរាប អាហោ ណាំហុងថា អ្នកដែលឈឺចាប់ជាង អា ហោ ណាំហុង ទៅទៀតនោះ គឺប្រជាពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរគ្រប់រូប ដែលមានបងប្អូន ត្រូវអា ហោ ណាំហុង បញ្ជាយកទៅសំលាប់ រាប់មិនអស់ នៅគុកបឹងត្របែក ។ អា ហោ ណាំហុង សមចូលគុក ដោយ តុលាការខ្មែរក្រហមហើយ។
ah Hor Nam Hong must be in jail with Noun Chea, Ieng Sary, Khieu Samphan in KR tribunal because ah Hor Nam Hong was the chief of Boeng Tra Baek prison during Khmer Rouge regime (1975-1979).
I think nearly all of the blogs has got the same email from A Chkout Meas Dog. What are they try to do to those blogs?
Blackmail them so they scare not to talk about the murderer Ho Nam Hong ?
Now I believe for sure that not even inside Cambodia which is have no freedom of expression now they want to shut up the whole world by using HIS DOG , Dog Meas to barking everyone. I really want to see what is A David look like then want to give him ACH CHKAE on his head
The people this Esq-pong Chomkuot Meas Toek Pram will sue on behalf of Whore Nam Hong are Camdisc and KI.
I don't side with either one, but both sides are barbarians. All Cambodians are barbarians, none of them respect the laws.
These animals are no different from the animals inside Cambodia.
Hun thugs don't respect the laws and these thugs outside Cambodia don't respect the laws the same things. They don't understand what law is.
11:32AM,if you find out about the backgrounds of this "attorney-at-law" please don't forget to share it with us here in ki.media. He said he graduated from a law school of Colombia University. Could someone check with Colombia University to find out if he really got his "degree" or diploma from there. By the way he writes a letter it doesn't seem like he is a lawyer because the level of English is so simple.
Well, the 'attorney' is French, so his English might be a little inadequate. Second, this is a 'cease and desist' letter. Anybody can write this. If he indeed is Hor Nam Hong's counsel he could sue anybody for libel/slander if that person accused him of acts he did not commit based on the French judgment. Khmerization called him a 'perpetrator of crimes' in an editorial. This is not covered by freedom of speech. Khmerization is not an accredited news organization, so freedom of press does not apply either. If he only quoted other people or news media, he can't be touched but an allegation is dicey. This is what courts are for.
Everybody might think that the identity of Khmerization would be a problem. But if that attorney is serious about this, he can sue Khmerization in an Australian court, I believe, Sydney would be the venue. Once he filed his papers there he can subpoena Google to locate Khmerizations IP-address and from there it is very simple to get a name and an address. In Australia this would be a civil matter, but could still entail a stiff fine. Hor Nam Hong certainly has the money to pursue this if he wants to. It is doubtful whether Khmerization has the money to defend himself. Don't anybody forget that the anonymity of these blogs and forums is no safeguard against legal action.
Attorneys' English have nothing to do with the laws they practice. Million Lawyers write sloppy English but they do the jobs right as they are lawyers.
Many lawyers in the US write old fashion (slang) English but what the hect this guy is so pissed with the Lawyers' English?
He needs to learn to understand the laws how much freedom he can have going around vomitting on other people reputations. I don't defend Hor Nam Hong but I think Khmers get to learn to be civilized instead of being stupid.
8:28
You dense, or what? Just google the name. This is was comes up.
http://www.salans.com/Default.aspx?sID=14&cID=218&ctID=36&lID=0
8:18Pm what 's law? Fuckedup brain!
Slander is no freedom of speech. Violators must be held accountable.
10:09 PM
If people want to defy David Meas and Hor Namhong, they can create 1,000 or 10,000 or 1,000,000 blogs that carries the same subjects about Hor Namhong, then let him sue 1,000,000 people in the world and see if Hor Namhong have the resource to sue everybody.
Therefore your scare tactics does not make sense in this day and age.
KI-Media reader, please help create 1,000,000 blogs containing the same info about Hor Namhong, let's do it, we all can do it!
2:23AM you think too much! the stupid David Shit can not do any thing about it out side communist land! There no kind of sue the catoonosh in the free world!
And let he sue me! He does not even know me until I kick him from behind someday!
David Meas do a lot more damage for Hor Nam Hong by bullying the related press around the world. This inturn will force more witnesses to come forward. More evidents collectively will be found. Threatening the media is another nail to Hor Nam Hong's coffin. You can get away with it in Cambodia where the judicial branch is not independant and can be gaged by the sign of the $$$. To your part David Meas, your unproffessional conduct telling us alot about you and your capacity in law. Can't Hor Nam Hong afford a real lawyer? Shonky lawyers does not serve the interest of their clients. David Meas is bluffer looking to make a buck, which i can understand where he is comming from. For Hor Nam Hong, he will be surely losing the case if it were to be conducted outside Cambodia. This will seeing him in jail for both, the alleged crime and for theatening the medias. The more threatening letter he sent, the more charges will be laid against him if found guilty.
10:09 PM
Don't anybody forget that the anonymity of these blogs and forums is no safeguard against legal action.
What you have said is true. For instant, an activist in Chaina was behind bar, when the Chinese Government pressured Yahoo to provide IP-adress of the person and Yahoo felt that they must oblige under the term and condition under the business agreement between Yahoo and China, to release the name of user.
In Australia this would be a civil matter, but could still entail a stiff fine. Hor Nam Hong certainly has the money to pursue this if he wants to. It is doubtful whether Khmerization has the money to defend himself.
Do agree with you that this could still entail a stiff fine.
Do agree that H.E Hor Nam Hong certainly has the money to pursue this if he wants to. However, if Khmerization doesn't have the money to hire a lawyer, should there'd be a lawsuit, then the Australian court oblige to appoint him a lwayer and in this case may be an asttue lawyer from the Legal Aide - is free of charge to Khmerization but out from the national coffer - Australian taxpayers.
But if that attorney is serious about this, he can sue Khmerization in an Australian court, I believe, Sydney would be the venue.
Don't believe that Khmerization is living in Sydney, and therefore can't see that Sydney court would extradite anyone from interstate to face court in Sydney.
One possible way for H.E's lawyer to do is through dimplomatic channel - Australian Embassy, however, whether the Ambassador or realted authority based at the embassy would think it is appropriate for them to involve in the case.
The letter has no substance. Indeed as said "cease and desist letter" Infact the law does not prohibit anyone from sueing the world at large. Win or lose is another matter. Next time if you are looking to sue someone for fun, don't hesitate. There are no proviso.
Could anyone check David Meas' qualification? Previously in ki-media he claimed that he received his degree from Colombia University, but in his website he claimed that he received his qualification from University of Paris. We can check his records from these universities.
David Meas, you are really opening up a big can of worms. Your action giving a lot of people reasons to check up on you and your credentials. You are putting yourself under the microscope.
David Meas is a French lawyer. He has nothing to fear from anybody. You guys here are just blowing hot air. But everybody better be careful what they say on blogs. It might come back to haunt them.
Which one of these Khmer Rouge(s) list below is a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison B32?
a) Pol Pot
b) Nuon Chea
c) Ta Mok
d) Khieu Samphan
e) Son Sen
f) Kaing Guek Eav aka Samak Mith Duch
g) Ieng Sary
h) Ieng Thearith
i) Chea Sim
j) Heng Samrin
k) Hor Namhong aka Samak Mith Yaem
l) Keat Chhon
m) Ouk Bunchhoeun
n) Sim Ka
o) Hun Sen
Source:
DC-CAM
Document Center of Cambodia
Fact:
During the Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime;
There are 196 prisons.
There are 196 prison chiefs.
There are 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples killed by the Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime.
Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Pol Pot
Nuon Chea
Ieng Sary
Ta Mok
Khieu Samphan
Son Sen
Ieng Thearith
Kaing Guek Eav aka Samak Mith Duch
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka
Hun Sen...
Kaing Guek Eav is a prison chief of Toul Sleng prison S21.
Source:
DC-CAM
Document Center of Cambodia
The UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC) must indict 195 other prison chiefs.
"I will not allow the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC) to indict more Khmer Rouge Regime leaders, I rather let the court (KRT ECCC) fail. Indict more Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders will lead the country into a civil war."
Samak Mith Hun Sen
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leader
Samak Mith Hun Sen will not allow the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC) to indict more Khmer Rouge Regime leaders who is responsible for killing 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples.
Samak Mith Hun Sen threaten to turn Cambodia back into the Killing Fields all over again.
War with whom?
War with innocent Khmer peoples without weapon?
Once a Khmer Rouge, always a Khmer Rouge.
A good Khmer Rouge(s) is a dead Khmer Rouge(s)
Khmer Rouge(s) continue to kill innocent Khmer peoples.
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Hun Sen
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong aka Samak Mith Yaem
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka...
"(Samak Mith) Duch (Kaing Guek Eav) 19 years sentence is too short and doesn't fit his crimes."
Samak Mith Yaem (Hor Namhong)
Prison Chief of Boeung Trabek prison B32
What's Hor Namhong trying to do is, he want the whole world to know that he is not a Khmer Rouge and a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison.
Hor Namhong is a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison B32.
Source:
Phnom Penh Post
Hor Namhong said to the French judge that he is not a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison, in fact members of his family was killed by Khmer Rouge(s).
Hor Namhong can lies all he want, at the end, he got summoned and will get indict, prosecute, convict and sentence.
Criminals likes to lies.
The place where criminals lies the most is inside the court room in front of the judge(s).
On October 7, 2009 Chea Sim, Heng Samrin, Hor Namhong, Keat Chhon, Ouk Bunchhoeun and Sim Ka has been summoned by the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC).
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