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Tuesday July 01, 2008
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PAD fooling the people
I cannot believe the lunatics at the PAD have actually got the Thai people and the Puea Pandin party fooled over the Preah Vihear temple.
(HIGHT TREASON OF AH KANCHEAS YUON SIAM HUN XEN. HE AND HIS FAMILY WILL BE DAMNED FOREVER FOR DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY.)
“The line was drawn by the French in 1904, the International Court of Justice ruled on it in 1962, and the new line agreed by the Thai and Cambodian government actually brings more land into Thailand than the old map. If the Cambodian government is happy to concede some land to the Thais while retaining the temple that is, and has always been, on Cambodian soil, then it is a win for the Thai government.”
This is just another example of the PAD stirring up issues trying to validate its existence. The fact that Puea Pandin party has weighed into it is disappointing; you would expect them to know better.
As for the Democrats, I hope they find the same demise the Australian Democrats recently have. Throwing stones at the government is good fun, but if you are never going to get a chance to run the country then it's a choice you can make without fear of having to prove you can do a better job.
The last Australian Democrats were voted out in November from the Senate and, as of July 1, the Democrats will be dead in Australia. Hopefully, the Thai Democrats will become history in the near future.
SHANNON CRANE
Gold Coast, Australia
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Nationalist bombast a little too late
I don't know what possesses the Thais lately who have started reclaiming the Cambodian Preah Vihear temple, 46 years after an international tribunal awarded it to Cambodia.
Anyone with more than a bird's brain will surely understand that this temple is clearly Cambodian (ever visited the site and compared it to Angkor?) and realise it is rather late to fire up their nationalistic bombast in order to get back the temple, as a spoilt brat would do.
By the way, the disputed 4.6 square kilometres around the site represents less then 0.01% of Thailand's territory.
As if common sense weren't enough to let the issue drop, just imagine the damage this whole issue could do to the relationship with Cambodia and the backlash from the international community, where Thailand already commands very little respect.
Wake up and don't politicise the issue to topple the government. The current administration hasn't done a lot lately, but their handling of the temple issue should probably be the least of the Thai people's worries.
JAMES GREEN
Wednesday, July 02, 2008
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July 01, 2008
Dear Friends,
The three terms office that Mr. Hun Sen has been in power have given us the bird’s eye view of the pattern of political activities in the Hun Sen Government. He and his government officials have been continuously silencing the dissident voices of our Cambodian people and their fundamental rights to freedom of expression, press, assembly, association, and religions are being violated and suppressed. The gap between the rich and poor is wider. The social issues such as land grabbing, illegal evictions, illegal logging, lack of health care and treatment, unemployment, inflation, and poverty are unresolved. On May 29, 2008, we learned that a man’s wife had to sell two of their 7 children to bail her husband out from [police] jail. While the Senate had shoveled off the corruption law proposals and buried them under their desks, the corruption activities are being fully conducted by government officials. Irrefutably, there has been no sign of any intervention from Samdach Akkak Moha Sena Bat Dey Dek Cho Hun Sen.
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We, Cambodians, need to keep cool, keep calm over this issue. Our Thai brothers should do likewise.
LAO Mong Hay, Hong Kong
My late Grant=Mother told me:
Siem are thieves,
from its King to the people
I do understand what she was meaning.
Why do we have steal our neighbour
like Yuon & Siem ?
Why don't we learn from European Union or Singapore ?
See an Asian sucessful country like Singapore that build its economic power by education....not GUN or Bully.
Any attempt by Thai soldier to interfere Khmer Preah Vihear will mean that Thai invasion into Khmer sovereinity. Cambodian Government should refer this attempt to security council to shut the mouth of all Thais attempt. It is a serious concern for this country to violate the sovereininty of her neighbouring country without regard of the international court of 1962. Areak Prey
The Khmer people will not rest until Ah Fake Khmer in Cambodia surrender our temple back to us.
The Thai see when the weakness of the government of Hun Sen they simply annexed part of our territory of the temple of Preah Vihear.
it's centuries and centuries that the Khmer leaders were misled by the Thai and Youns. Unfortunately, the history of annexation of territory repeats itself. Soon, we left nothing for our younger generations.
Kaun Khmer
Thai historian Charnvit mentioned that Preah Vihear was given to France by Chulalongkorn in order to preserve the rest of Thailand from being a western colony!
I'm a real kol botr Khmer surin not a fake Thai (one who claimed to be Khmer-Issan) and I know that Charnvit is a respectable Thai historian currently a professor at Thammasat University in Bangkok.
I support 100% our brothers in Cambodia!
Phom pen chao Thai "Kamen jag jangwat Surin" phom kho rong hai chao Thai leuad Kamen tuk tuk kon samaki gub pinong khong rao tee prathet Kamphucha.
By: Charnvit Kasetsiri
The violence which culminated in the burning of the Royal Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh on January 29, 2003, was both shocking and unexpected. The rioting not only inflicted extensive damage to Thai-owned property (fortunately, no one was killed) but severely strained Thai-Cambodian relations. It also warrants study of the history of Thai-Cambodian relations to understand the deep-seated causes of what took place so that similar incidents can be avoided in the future.
Among the neighboring countries of Southeast Asia, none seems more similar to Thailand than Cambodia (perhaps not even excluding Laos and the �Tai� people scattered throughout such countries as Burma, Vietnam, and southern China). Both nations share similar customs, traditions, beliefs, and ways of life. This is especially true of royal customs, language, writing systems, vocabulary, literature, and the dramatic arts.
In light of these similarities, it seems surprising, therefore, that relations between Thailand and Cambodia should be characterized by deep-seated �ignorance, misunderstanding, and prejudice.� Indeed, the two countries have what can be termed �a love-hate relationship.�
This lack of understanding is reflected in the thinking of a considerable number of educated Thais and members of the ruling class, who distinguish between the Khom and the Khmer, considering them to be two separate ethnic groups. They assert that it was the Khom, not the Khmer, who built the majestic temple complexes at Angkor Wat and Angkor Thom and who founded one of the world�s truly magnificent ancient empires. They further claim that Khmer culture, for instance its various forms of masked dance drama, is merely a �derivative� of Thai culture. (This is despite the fact that the word �Khom� is derived from the old Thai �Khmer krom,� meaning �lowland Khmer.� In spoken Thai, �Khmer� was gradually dropped, leaving only �krom,� which over time became, first, �klom� or �kalom,� and then eventually �Khom.�)
The border between Thailand and Cambodia is approximately 800 kilometers long, stretching along the provinces of the lower Northeast from a point known as �Chong Bok� in Ubon Ratchathani (where the Thai, Laotian, and Cambodian borders meet and which some refer to as the �Emerald Triangle�) and ending in Had Lek sub-district of Klong Yai district, in Trat province.
This long border is symbolic of the long history of relations between the Thais and the Khom-Khmer, which date from before the founding of the Sukhothai kingdom in the thirteenth century, thus starting the �love-hate relationship.� A similar relationship exists between the Japanese and the Koreans. Much of what defines Japanese culture today has been influenced by and is part of the cultural heritage of Korea. Buddhism, silkmaking, lacquerware, architecture, and sculpture � the most refined aspects of culture which the Japanese identify with China � passed to them first through Korea. But because of Japan�s successful transformation into an industrial powerhouse, that country has overlooked its debt to Korea and, in fact, treats Korea as an inferior.
Those elements of Thai culture which are generally considered to have originated in India, such as Buddhism, architecture, artistic designs, and even a significant portion of the Thai lexicon, did not enter Thailand directly from India. Rather, they were all second-hand transmissions, so to speak, having first passed through the Sri Lankans (including the Tamil), the Mon, or the Khmer. Even the concept of divine kingship (devaraja) and much of the special vocabulary associated with the royal court were, as M.R. Kukrit Pramoj, a noted intellectual and former Thai prime minister, said, �derived from Cambodia.�
Thai leaders in the past were filled with tremendous admiration for anything Khom-Khmer. Khun Pha Muang, who ruled the city of Muang Rad, somewhere in present-day northern Thailand, and was instrumental in the founding of the Sukhothai kingdom, was given the title �Sri Intrabodintrathit� (before it was changed to �Sri Intrathit�). This is a name taken from the lord or phee fah of the city of �muang Sri Sothonpura.� Pha Muang�s royal regalia, known as �Pra Khan Jayasri,� the Jayasri sword, and his royal consort named �Sikara Maha Devi,� were all bestowed by the King of Angkor.
This is the message conveyed to us by a fourteenth-century stone inscription of Wat Srichum at Sukhothai (the authenticity of which has never been questioned, unlike that of the Ram Khamhaeng Inscription). The Thai term �phee fah� (referring to a king) and the term �Sri Sothonpura� are direct references to a Khom-Khmer king and his royal capital. The king in question was probably King Jayavarman VIII (1243-1295) and the royal capital of Sri Sothonpura is certainly Angkor Thom.
In other words, the earliest royal Thai titles � King Sri Intrabodintrathit, the Pra Khan Jayasri sword, and the consort Sikara Maha Devi � were derived from the Khmer, one of the most highly advanced civilizations in Southeast Asia at the time and a source of knowledge and inspiration to the Thai people. It is possible that Sikara Maha Devi was a daughter of King Jayavarman VIII and thus the Thai leader Khun Pha Muang, one of the founders of Sukhothai, was a son-in-law of the Khmer King.
The early history of the Lao Lan Xang kingdom in Luang Prabang shares distinct similarities. Fah Ngum, the founder of the kingdom, had sought refuge at Angkor, where he was given a sacred Buddha image (Phra Bang) and where he took a Khmer consort (Mahesi) before establishing his supremacy over all the Lao people (A.D. 1353).
This respect and admiration for anything Khmer also characterized the Ayutthaya period from the mid-fourteenth century onward. Interestingly, the flourishing of Khmer art and culture at the Thai court was the result of war, a war in which the victors adopted elements of the superior civilization of the losing side.
The glorious Khom-Khmer civilization ultimately sank into decline, as Sri Sothonpura (Angkor Thom or Sri Yasodharapura), seat of the kingdom, fell three times to invading armies � first to King U-Thong in 1369, second to King Ramesuan in 1388/9, and finally in 1431 to King Sam Phraya. The sacking of Sri Sothonpura can be compared to the fall of Ayutthaya in 1767, but Thai historians are reluctant to make this analogy as it casts Thais in the role of �villains,� a role more comfortably attributed to the Burmese.
However, the Thai conquest of Sri Sothonpura led to a burgeoning of Khmer art and culture in Ayutthaya, just as the Mongol conquest of China led to the Mongol adoption of Chinese customs and culture (the founding of the Yuan dynasty at Peking). As Professor David Wyatt of Cornell University once noted, in fact, �Ayutthaya is the successor of Angkor.�
Another example from the Ayutthaya period is the decision by King Prasat Thong (1630-1656) to build the principal prang at Wat Chaiyawatanaram in the Khmer style and to bestow on the Khmer-style palace he constructed on the banks of the Pasak River (located today in Nakhon Luang district of Ayutthaya province) the name �Nakhon Luang.� This is a name taken directly from Angkor Wat and Angkor Thom, as Thais at the time referred to the Khmer capital as (Phra) �Nakhon Luang� or in Pali-Sanskrit, Nagara, the City.
The admiration of the Thai ruling classes for things Khmer-Khom remained in evidence even into the Ratanakosin (Bangkok) period. King Rama IV, or King Mongkut (r.1851-1868), for instance, ordered a Khmer stone temple disassembled and reconstructed on Thai soil, but �Phra Suphanphisan, after a trip to the ancient Khmer capital at Angkor, informed the King that all the stone temples were too enormous to be taken apart and transported to Siam. Hearing this, the King ordered that Prasat Ta Prohm, a relatively smaller temple, be relocated instead. Four groups of 500 men each were dispatched�to deconstruct the prasat on the ninth day of the sixth lunar month.�
The account of this event, which appears in �The Royal Chronicles of King Rama IV� by Chao Phraya Thipakorawong, occurred in 1860, before the Siamese ceded �sovereignty� over Cambodia to the French in 1867.
It is unclear to us precisely why King Mongkut wished to have an enormous Khmer temple reconstructed in Siam at a time when the French were gradually extending their control over much of Indochina. What is interesting, however, is that the attempt to move the temple structure failed when �some 300 Khmers came out of the forest and attacked the men who had come to disassemble the temple, killing Phra Suphanphisan, Phra Wang and one of Phra Suphanphisan�s sons. Phra Mahatthai was stabbed, and Phra Yokkrabat was injured. The phrai commoners, however, escaped injury by fleeing into the forest.�
It was obvious that the Khmer were angered by the theft of their property and responded violently. The incident convinced King Mongkut to abandon the plan to �disassemble� the prasat and instead to construct a small model of the Angkor Wat temple complex. �Craftsmen constructed a model of Angkor Wat and installed it at Wat Phra Sri Ratanasasadaram (the Temple of the Emerald Buddha), where it remains to this very day.� (Prime Minister Hun Sen visited the model at the Temple of the Emerald Buddha in early 1990s during an official visit to Thailand for discussions with then-Prime Minister Chatichai Choonhavan.)
Despite the Thai love and admiration for anything Khmer, the Thais have also felt considerable hatred for the Khmer, as evidenced by a ritual called the phithi pathomkam. While Ayutthaya was busy fending off Burmese incursions, the Khmer King Satha (Chetta I, r.1576-1596) took the opportunity to attack Ayutthaya from the east. In revenge, so the chronicles say, King Naresuan ordered the capture of Khmer ruler to be beheaded and washed his feet with the blood.
The phithi pathomkam ritual re-enacts this story of revenge. However, Professor Kajorn Sukhapanich, a noted Thai historian, did not believe that the ritual, as recorded in the royal chronicles, ever really occurred. He claimed that Khmer King Satha fled and took refuge in Laos.
In general, present-day Thai view Khmer leaders and kings as traitors and ingrates. This idea was probably started by King Vajiravudh, or Rama VI (r.1910-1925), in his official nationalism campaign. It was handed down and developed by Field Marshal Phinbun and Luang Wichit in the 1930s-1940s when Thailand, with Japanese help, seized Siemreap and Battambang from French Indochina. It was also heightened by the dictatorship of Field Marshal Sarit when the International Court of Justice ruled that the great temple of Phra Viharn on the border belonged to Cambodia. The pro-Americanism of Thailand and the neutrality of Sihanouk Cambodia during the Cold War further encouraged mutual dislike between the two countries and peoples.
Thais are not particularly fond of Norodom Sihanouk, for example. A Thai riddle asks, �What color (si) do Thai people hate?� The answer is neither red (si daeng) nor black (si dam), but �Si-hanouk.�
This, of course, is the Thai perspective, but how do the Khmer view their kings, such as Satha and Sihanouk? Certainly as national heroes and saviors, as men who fought to preserve their country�s independence in the face of Thai aggressors intent on seizing control of Cambodia. Much the same could be said about King Anu of Laos, r.1805-1828, considered by Lao historians as a national hero, whereas to the Thais, he was a �rebel� against the Bangkok monarch King Rama III (r.1824-1851).
The history of Thailand and its neighbors, especially Cambodia, Laos, and Burma, is one with both positive and negative elements. Some events have bred hatred, for instance of the Burmese by the Thais; others have generated contempt and feelings of superiority or inferiority, as in the case of Thailand�s relations with Cambodia and Laos. These feelings have led to significant misunderstandings.
Clearly, then, there is a need for an earnest and systematic study of the history of relations between these countries. This study deserves support from national and regional organizations such as ASEAN. Unfortunately, however, once the smoke clears from the Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh, all that is likely to matter is the extent of the financial damage and how and when compensation will be paid.
Or if any analysis of the incident does take place, it is likely to reach the facile conclusion that the Khmers are �the villains� � they burned down Thai Embassy, after all � and the Thais are �the good guys� � we did not burn the Cambodian Embassy. It is convenient for Thais to forget that Ayutthaya rulers sacked Angkor three times. It would be far preferable, however, to examine the violent events of January 29 in order to draw lessons for solving the problems that continue to affect the neighboring countries of the Southeast Asian region.
The temple belongs to all Khmer in Issan province and it must unconditionally give back to us.
The monkeys think they can rob our property from us by calling us Thai and Lao because we interbred with Chinese people, but when their stupid King interbred with French, they still called him Khmer. What a hypocrite? They are nothing but a minority, and they are no authority in Khmer culture. We are more Khmer than they are.
8:21 PM
Hey monkey the verb "breeding" is for animals or plants!
Before doing any cute/paste from other people comments you should look for their definition.
Also you can write directly in Siam language if you want.
Excuse my language Mr.or Mrs 8:21P
As my half life in Cambodia and half in Thailand now am in super power country.
I have never heard khmer ISAAN living around Preah Vihear region as your claimed,
Indeed we have some khmer ISSAN living around RATTANAK KIRI and MONDOL KIRI
They are khmer Indian=pnorng=>>kouy =>>steang Somreh they are minorities living in peaceful manner, but khmer ISSAN LIKE YOU there are not exist DO NOT PLAY FAKE IT LIAR! if you are Thai,Lao ISSAAN
That you must be stupid to be claimed for PREAH VIHEAR .Now your Thai people have gone to far
In my personal thinking your People need some help or doing some thing to replace you brain or reprogram your brain ,your people have no shame and annoying ,am personally agreed with one of my homi’ s comment ,that THAI PEOPLE not deserved even one single tiny stone of PREAH VIHEA but your what your Thai people deserved is smakking with our shoes on your face.
STOP BULL SHIT AH LOB THAI AND LAOP ISSAN Cambodian people not bite that.
purekhmer
That just meant you are blind, 1:04. Are you trying to tell everyone here that there is no Khmer in Issan Province? FYI, practically 80% of people live in Issan province has Khmer blood in them, and they want their temple back.
no that such shit thing ah lob
khmer ISSAN+pnorng =kouy =Somreh =Steang ah retarded
khmer Issan have no country ah chhkout this matter between Thai and khmer here come the bulshit khmer Isaan ma azz ,your claim for thai alob do not bull shit to the bulshitter,khmer people do not take that route okay aibah!
So what? the country is just a land. It can't own shit. We build the temple and we own it. This is no difference from we build our house and own our house, and you Fake Khmer has no right to take anything from us, especially when you never did anything right from day1.
Dear Ki,
Please, you shouln't publish any comments anti-Khmer or rude comments to divide us.
Thank you for your comprehension.
this is why we preserve old legal map so to show the changes. and from the looks of the 1904 and 1907 treaties maps used as a base for the 1962 icj verdict in favor of cambodia and when that map is compared with the new unilateral map of thailand, we can see the obvious stealing and contempt of court of icj by thailand. apparently, thailand chose to disrespect the icj verdict and unilaterally redraw this lawful map of 1904 and 1907 treaties by claim the old map was made by france on behalf of cambodia, of course because common sense dictate that without cambodia, france wouldn't be there anyway or do they. but anyway, france represented cambodia on behalf of official asking to france by cambodia to represent cambodia in the 1904 and 1907 treaties which again is very lawful at the time of the treaties signed by both gov't. so, it is now irrelevant for thailand who former official name was siam to think and want to do whatever they please by saying or claiming that they disagreed with the france despite their (siam's) gov't at the time of the signed officially endorsed the treaties so it can become lawful boundaries between cambodia and siam at the time. and now, thailand want to disrespect this treaties in order to steal preah vihear and to disgreed with the map of the treaties. it is not right. so, whether thailand disagree or whatever with this treaties of 1904 and 1907, it is really irrelevant and very illegal to say the least. the same dispute made its way to icj for verdict and justice in the name of law was granted to cambodia already. and now after 46 years, thailand again decided on its own free-will and penchance to disrespect the court and violated the treaties of 1904 and 1907 which also confirmed siem's stance on the agreement as official. need anyone say more? the old maps, the old treaties, and icj have said it all already. cambodia stands by the icj verdict and thailand will sure to lose . i have no doubt about that, period. god bless cambodia.
1:56 AM
You know why the Siam lost in 1962, because they didn't what the foundation of the temple were made of.
But us "fake Khmer" knew the answer.
Did you guys really build the temple????
Hummm
1:56am I f I am bind ,ways better than people like you and all your whole country
(Thai) the brain are damaged and completely shut down, especially mentally and
Retarded ill like you, If you are so dumb, tug and low live have never been educated I am telling you
The world THE WORLD is reccornize and ruled in khmer favor and what is matter with you ?
Pretending to be illegal khmer Issan to claim preah Vihear in benefit of Thai what a sick people and
A whole country that you live are?
Born to be thieves unchangeable even die in name of the thieves too.
Good luck Cambodia
Purekhmer
Every day since last week, i have heard people keep repeating khmer issan,khmer issan,khmer issan, etc.... khmer issan my ass.There is no such thing as khmer issan stupid .They all are extinct long time ago.Stop your fucking dream about preah vihear,it ain't gonna be yours.bULL SHIT.
For any Khmer people to claim anything and they must claim behind the Khmer government and not behind the Thaicong government!
there is no such thing as khmer isan. anyway, let me remind those people who claim that khmer isan or whatever are khmer people. well, good for you, and i'm sure cambodia will welcome you with open arms to visit our preah vihear. so, stop being paranoid about cambodia's listing of preah vihear to world heritage. actually, this listing is good, if you're not educated enough to know the benefit of this listing. listing preah vihear as a world heritage site will help to preserve and maintain the temple from further deterioration and will allow all khmer people of course and the world as well to learn more about this significan khmer heritage site. so, why thailand did not want to support it, not that cambodia needs their support anyway, is what everyone should wondering about.
i think thailand need to educate your people that listing it as a world heritage site is great for all humanity, not just cambodia. thailand should not worry about trying to reserve the rights to reclaim it or whatever in the future as they will be so illegal to say the least because not only it belongs to cambodia, it will belong to the entire world as well. so, thai people need to understand this clearly. nobody is going to take it away from them, it fact, making it a world heritage site will allow cambodia to fix it to perhaps its former status like in its hey-days. given the site the world heritage status will benefit both countries of cambodia and thailand without having to say much. however, by preventing it from getting this prestigious status, not only it will sour a good bilateral relation with cambodia , thailand will miss out a lot from not be able to visit the site and from learn about its true significance and history as to why or how it was built by our great khmer god-kings and its true meaning will be kept hidden, but with world heritage status, everyone will learn about it and will appreciate its khmer builders and its religious purpose, etc... so, everuyone should be glad that it is going to be listed. otherwise, thailand can lose out a lot if cambodia decided to close the border from the thai side permanent due to thailand's bad intention on taking our preah vihear. take my word for it as i'm educated enough to see the goodness of it all. god bless.
Oh yes, there are million and million of Khmer in Issan Province.
On the other hand, there is no Khmer in Cambodia, but Yuon, Korean, Chinese, French, ..., and they are not going to keep our Khmer temple.
Dude !They ,khmer issan,were all gone since CHAMPA ,they were extinct about 1000 years ago .And the temple was built right after by khmer people and Thai want to have it .If you have question feel free to ask.My number is 012 F.U.C.K.K.H.M.E.R.I.S.S.A.N.
Khmer people in Issan province will outlast the fake Khmer in Cambodia. We'll never become extinct like them.
6:12 AM
You are like a child trying to win an argument!
Can you post more mature arguments?
6:12am! The agriculture department just declared a month ago that they just spray a pesticide on KHMER ISSAN INSECT,they are perished for good.Amen.
You mean "Lie", 7:06?
7:46 AM
You don't have to lie. I just suggest you to grow up.
Here an example "fake Khmer in Cambodia".
If you think this is a mature comment, so just forget about what I said.
Well, if Khmer in Issan Province doesn't exist, so does Khmer in Cambodia. Thus they are all fakes. Isn't that logical?
6:12 AM, of there are 100% Khmer of Khmer blood in Cambodia right now. Of cause some are half blooded but of cause the pure Khmer concentration is much much higher than in Thailand (if you said you are Khmer). Many of people in Thailand are pure Thai, pure Lao, pure Chinese(see in Bangkok) and the mixed blooded groups (see your Thai stars, many of them are not pure blood). So if you are Khmer in Thailand, you are the minority, and as I know the Thai will treat you as inferior people if they think you are Khmer. If you love being Khmer why even your original language you cannot preserve? And why you try to take the Khmer temple to put under Thai? So finally, if you are Khmer, you must live with pride as Khmer (like Khmer people in Cambodia or abroad), protect Khmer heritage as the name of Khmer (not Thai) and finally if you can, you should learn to speak your language as Khmer and teach your next generation to love their relative in Cambodia (not try to make trouble like present or last time).
No, there aren't too many people look like Ah Scam Rainxy in Issan Province. You have to go to Bangkok for that.
At any rate, if you have to have 100% Khmer blood to be Khmer, then why it it that your king is a gay infidel?
remember the good saying: aruing on the internet is like winning the special olympic game. even though you win, you're still retarded, siem thugs!!!
11:47 AM. Your late grand said whatever she saw, but she didn't know the real history.
12:59PM. Thanks for your support as Khmer brother and sister albeit we live under separate rulers. The history you learned from are more lies to save the face of Chulalongkorn. He was defeated and about to be another French slave, but the British saved him from it. Because of the treaty between Thailand and Malaysia, and because the British and France were made a deal, Chulalongkorn was saved by the bell.
I agree that that Professor Charnvit is a respectable Thai historian, but he still is afraid of this absolute Chakri Dynasty.
When a man who dared to shoot his own brother in cold blood for the throne, then think more twice.
1:15Pm. Thanks for posting a short history wrote by Charnvit Kasetsiri. It is a very educatioal and everyone Khmer and Thai/Siam should learn our roots how we related.
This to ah.mee Jumkourt called him (her) self KHmer Issan. Now I speak Khmer to ah.mee jumkourt einh oy chhup lampa doch khmenh beam dai, ah.mee kaun otpouch, ah.mee pnorng koury kandouy mae ah.mee chhleuy. Tov tov york Preah Viheah tov, heuy chhup mork lampa doch manuss jkourt jrouk.
Have your shopping cart and take it with you. k?
Let see if ah.mee jumkourt Issan chess Khmer reur ko ot.
the maps above clearly shows thailand's incursion into cambodia's territory, despite the 1962 icj verdict based on the 1904-1907 treaty. cambodia must remind siem to respect the icj maps, not their unilateral map that they drew right after the icj verdict. what a contempt of court they showed here. i guess they want to get as close to cambodia's preah vihear as possible like all the way to the gate. however, it is good thing that cambodia still keep and have the 1962 icj maps that shows clearly the 4.6 km2 or perhaps more than that are actually belongs to cambodia in accordance to the 1904 -1907 treaty.
cambodia still will have to take siem to court again if they don't respect the 1904 -1907 treaty and be charged with contempt of court for illegally occupying our cambodia's territory. the maps above can not lie and cambodia must make this map available for the entire world to see. thailand needs to respect the 1904 -1907 treaty, period. god bless cambodia.
If we have some person like in this forum Cambodia country will no name on the list of the world.
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