A fresh group of Thai soldiers walk from the border to a Cambodian Buddhist temple complex where their colleagues have occupied a temple near Preah Vihear temple, in Preah Vihear province, Cambodia, Friday, July 18, 2008. A Cambodian general said a border standoff between his soldiers and Thai troops came close to a shoot-out overnight as the confrontation over disputed territory surrounding Preah Vihear temple entered its fourth day Friday. (AP Photo/Heng Sinith)By Suy Se
"We all love peace. We are here, we don't want anything. We came to offer protection in case Thai protestors come here ... We came to help Cambodian troops and their people. I don't think that we will stay here much longer" (sic!) - Invading Thai army Colonel Chay Huay SoongnernPREAH VIHEAR, Cambodia (AFP) - Thailand sent more military reinforcements to a disputed part of the Cambodian border Friday, after the tense four-day standoff nearly erupted into gunfire during the night.
Cambodian official Hang Soth told reporters 109 troops had arrived Friday, joining some 400 Thai soldiers already stationed across from more than 800 Cambodians.
Both sides have set up around a small Buddhist pagoda on the slope of a mountain leading to the ruins of 11th century Preah Vihear temple, which is the epicentre of a territorial dispute over the surrounding land.
Thai army Colonel Chay Huay Soongnern insisted that the soldiers were there to turn away any Thai nationalist protesters, after about 4,000 tried to march to the disputed zone on Thursday.
"We all love peace. We are here, we don't want anything. We came to offer protection in case Thai protestors come here," he said.
"We came to help Cambodian troops and their people. I don't think that we will stay here much longer," he added.
Khan Yorn, the pagoda's abbott, asked Cambodian and Thai troops to leave the grounds.
"There cannot be armed forces inside the pagoda. We keep the pagoda a quiet place for the people to celebrate ceremonies. So please all troops move out," he told them in front of reporters.
The standoff nearly erupted into violence late Thursday, when witnesses said troops twice pointed their guns at each other during 10 tense minutes at the pagoda when 50 Cambodian troops entered the pagoda compound to protect food supplies for dozens of monks.
"Our troops and Thai troops pointed their guns at each other. They were on alert," said Brigadier Chea Keo, commander-in-chief of the Cambodian army at Preah Vihear.
"After that Cambodian military commanders and Thai commanders held talks for approximately one hour. We solved our problems after talks with Thai commanders," he said. "The situation is stable now."
He said Cambodian troops agreed to stay outside the pagoda during the night to avoid confrontations.
The mood appeared less tense Friday morning as Cambodian soldiers went back inside the pagoda and were seen chatting and smiling with Thais.
But Cambodian Premier Hun Sen told his Thai counterpart Samak Sundaravej in a letter Thursday that the row was worsening and harming their relations.
"Prime Minister Hun Sen doesn't want to see any Thai blood or Cambodian blood on the land because of this misunderstanding," Phay Sithan, spokesman for the Cambodian cabinet, told reporters at the scene Friday.
Top officials from both countries plan to meet Monday to resolve the stand-off. Samak was holding talks with top defence officials Friday to prepare for the talks.
The troops are deployed in a small area claimed by both countries near the Preah Vihear temple.
Thai troops arrived after three Thai protesters illegally broke across on Tuesday vowing to reclaim the temple, which they say rightly belongs to them.
The World Court in 1962 determined the Preah Vihear ruins belong to Cambodia, even though the most accessible entrance lies in Thailand.
The issue has taken on national importance in both countries.
Cambodia is preparing for general elections on July 27, while Thailand has recently been rattled by anti-government protests, driven in part over the handling of the land dispute.
67 comments:
Hun Sen, you are digging your own grave by not taking action.
Your inaction has lead the thais to increase their incursion troops into cambodia.
Don't forget Hun Sen is a master of chess player. He had planed the stages of the problem and how to solve each stage. This is the first stage and if Thai army still encroching to Cambodia land, the government of Cambodia will use any means to solve (fighting, diplomatic, UN,...)
I am on a one-day transit through Bangkok ((fuck, why didn't I change my ticket!)and i am listening to a private TV channel brodcasting in English. You would not believe all the bullshit they are saying! It is a shameless disinformation campaign. They said the three thais were detained by cambodian army inside thailand! They called the cambodian people living in the area around the contested Vat "cambodian immigrants" going back home now thank to the intervention of thai army! Of course, there was not mention of the decision of international court decision of 1962 nor the support of international community for the admission of PV as World Heritage. At one point they called the cambodian army as invading troops! I think we all khmer must unite during this time. The opposition parties must also show their support since this is not about politic but about our motherland integrity! The thais have a sophisticated propaganda machine and is preparing the public opinion in case of armed conflict! I appeal to all my co-nationals to join forces and counter this propaganda. Conflicts cannot be won only by arms but must be supported by good public communication to gain support. Please, all khmers abroad and inside we need all of you to do your share for educating/informing your friends. While being firm we should avoid extremist rhetoric which will play into thai dirty games. Since we are relatively weaker in terms of military/economic capacities, we must be smarter than our enemies.
Long Live Cambodia and Cambodians!
This is not a chess game.
We should have immediately convened the UN security council to condemn thai incursion.
Get other ASEAN members to intervene in our favor
Explain the situation to the world
Get world opinion behind us
Militarily block the thais or menace them seriously.
Instead we have done nothing but sent a rag tag army to the area.
Now Reuters report heavy armed reinforcement leaving Phnom penh to Preah Vihear
Too little and too late.
The thais scorn us now, they saw us blink when we stood eye to eye.
You need to face up to a bully, Hun Sen , you should know that. You are one yourself.
I wish what you said about Hun Sen is true because we need it.
If it is conflict so be it. The khmer nation will win.
I saw Hun Sen met a representative from internation organization on Apsara TV. His show me that he could not sleep well in this recent situation.
Why don't the strong man HunXen who use his tricky skill to eliminate his own people, use this same skill to fight AH CHOR SIAM and Yuon?
More our strong man negociate with our imperialist neighbourgs, more we lost our land.
This strong man is a brainless and coward face to foreigner.
Because the thais are trickier and stronger than he is.
Thais? how many of them stronger than Hun Sen?
to all every brothers,
If we can not solve the problem by ourself, let others do their job. Do not interrupt them
សុភាសិតខ្មែរមួយពោលថា៖
បើមិនជួយចូកជួយចែវ កុំយកជើងរាទឹក
Because assasination and robbing the weak is easy.
defeating a foreign army is another cup of tea.
Especially if your generals have been drinking, womanising and opening karaoke bars.
When was the last time they did any miltary excercise.
At this situation, we have to believe our comamder(s). If we do not believe them, who ?
If you brave enough, go to that area and ask them to enroll you to be Khmer soldier. 99% they will acept you and another 1% they will think you are the Siam spy or not ot you came here just to make trouble.
Or you can ask other Khmer people to bring foods for our beloved soldiers. I do not know you are in PP like me or not now?
I do not care who is a master or what? I do care and felt sad pitty enough to see our Khmer troops uniform. Some of them did not even have a boot they put on sandal not only that no food or good food to eat sleep like animal under the tree. Now can you all judge? Does cpp care? Just think in a simple way. I love all GOOD Khmer not the traitors.
If Hun Sen took action, his soldiers will dead, and he's not going to send his strong troops to the front line, because he needs to protect his assets and families and friends.
This is a good news for Cambodia,after all Hun Sen's troops are killed then the new Cambodia and take over.
Hun Sen is using his strong men to protect his ass and assets, not to the front line.
if this fucking government cannot protect the heritage, might as well give it to Thai.
Hun Sen, Thais are looking down on you, pal. You need to smoke them now
A few year, we just finished the civil war and the main government policy is to focus on economic development not to spend too much money for military like Burma and N Korea does.
Do you want them to sleep at hotel or gueshouse and return to the fild in the morning. This is war.
You see that our soldiers lack of that kind of supply, why don't you bring those equipments to support them? our beloved soldier will wellcome you and thank you from their heart
No one here is a thai spy but no one here is blind.Everyone here is a patriot.
The last time the khmer people followed like a blind man, 2 million innocent died and vietnam occupied us for 10 years.
Now we are asking those in power to stand up and fight
Remember that Hun Xen is a puppet of Vietnam; he didn't win over the Khmer Rouge! How can one expects such a credit stealer to be brave enough to challenge Siam?
8:49 PM
During this volatile conflict demonstrates the weakness of Cambodian military readiness.
The Cambodian government has only military readiness for only forcible evictions and beat the unarmed protesters.
What a fucking pathetic chicken shit.
the lastest report,
Cambodian government sent around 2000 troops to protect along the Thai border.
9:10 PM
Where did you obtain this report, sir?
Please direct us to this particular website.
Thanks,
Khmer
every one blame government offials that they are corruption becaue you yourself do not have a chance to do corruption.
Pol Pot's regime abolished all private properties. When they have a chance, why they can not? have you never hear this case in Thailand? have you never seen that Bangkok governor moved poor people to other place and this space available for constructing skycrapers..? it is the same case
the below:
300 Thai workers return from Cambodia for fear of violence
July 18, 2008
The Nation
you read through, you will see
I have huge doubts on news from thai newspaper. maybe its a lie so the thai military are forced to increase substantially their soldiers in cambodia.
Never trust the thais.
Khan Yorn, the pagoda's abbott, asked Cambodian and Thai troops to leave the grounds.
Khan Yorn, you go back to Cambodia.
Don't trespassing Thai territory.
@9:25 PM
Yes, maybe like you said. Thai media always help to fuel the situation
Khan Yorn IS IN CAMBODIA.
Khmer Rouge like Hun Sen never trusted foreigners such as Thais. Thai troopd don't invade in Cambodia protect Cambodians from the protesters. Million mines will come again.
Yes Hun Sen show your ruthless of Kkmer Rouge style or Pol Pot will come back to life and his new tactic of suicide bombs will be born.
Why is Hun Sen waiting for? Shoot man, shoot. Been in war for half century you knew what is meant. Shoot or blow up yourself among the Thai troops invading Cambodia. Geeee.. You get to blow a few of Thai troops or blow up yourself in shit 4000 or else.
9;44
Shhh....
He"s busy busy transferring all that gold and dollars he got from stealing, assasinating and selling off cambodia .
He has no time to be a hero.
Maybe transferring it to a thai bank account.
War without diplomatic help is useless. Even you won in the battle field but many countries think you were the trouble maker, you loss. be patient.
Everythings should be solved step by step
10:01
Agree. but negotiating from a dominant position helps .
You have a bargaining advantage.
Do you think the US would bomb thai troops? or any ASEAN country
Morale of story: don't let them take put their foot in the door.
Long Live Hun Sen!
Long live the khmer nation!
We let illegal Khmers stay in Thailand for too long that they brainwashed themselves they were on their Scambodia soil.
Now it's time to banish these Khmers away.
Now, no such document of decision is on Bush's table. But the situation in the future we can not predict due to interest conflic
Thailand is wrong now because they enter their armed troops in other country's territory. Hor Namhong is going to UN head quater to protest the siam activity
10:12 PM
Don't you think the economic growth of Thailand is apart from Khmer labor? don't blind yourself
10;14
He should have done that 3 days ago.
at least he's starting the process.
We wish him godspeed.
I am not afraid that Siam will take Preah Vihear. It's easy to protect this part of our land. UN will do it for us. So why do we have to negociate with Siam at this moment ? Go to UN... UN hold a stronger bat than us.
I wonder it's one part of the game of CPP to disguise the yuons migration in Cambodia to vote at the 27th of July.
Maybe... the next step... is that Thaksin Shinawatra to come out of the dark to do the middlemen in the negociation !!!!!!!!! between Siam and Cambodia.
Make him the hero again. You know Thaksin... the corrupted man and the drug dealer
Khmer Canadian
10:24
The thai king wouldnt like that.
He tried to get rid of thaksin with a coup detat, corruption trial and now his own personal bodyguard, the PAD fanatics.
At least Thaksin wouldnt waste millions of dollars and threat of war for 4.6 square kilometers that is already legally part of cambodia.
I think he is the only intelligent thai at the moment. There might be others but they are hiding.
Hun Sen won't do anything since he sits on his fat ass with full of $$$. Just look to the southeast of the border, Vietname claimed alot of land there.
Hun Sen has some armies for killing political opponents, not for fighting the war.
Hmm, we need to think and balance about the neighbor. not to do anythings without evaluate the situation. it is not late. the world is watching
10:17PM
We ain't natural born killers like you. Besides, people of Scambodia have known us many times that they are ungrateful, arrogant and always double-cross Thais every time you see the opportunity.
We're happy to see the Khmer labors leave Thailand asap. I hope there are plenty of work and prosperity for them in their Scambodia land.
Don't worry about our economy. If people of Scambodia never learn how to be a good neighbor to us, we don't want to hire your people anyway.
But in the meantime we have only Hun Sen to represant us .Even if we dislike him intensely we still wish him success.
Maybe this conflict will make him a better man. ie. think for the nation than himself.
But those going to the polls have a better view of all the candidates and how they perform under pressure. They might make a wiser decision when they vote.
I here in Phnom Penh also happy if your drive aways your businessmen-women who are distributing drug to Australai, Europ, Singapore...your country borned to be produce yama for poisonning the world
You call those who sell YAMA, businessmen/women?
We call them criminals. See any difference?
If there're criminals in your country and the police of Scambodia doesn't arrest them, why are you bitching about it here?
Go tell your lazy policemen to do the job, Stupid!!!!
The Preah Vihear temple must be free of damage.
Otherwise, Thai must responsible.
It is belonging to the United Nation.
Hey ah Shams(Siam) 10:37PM. What a low life are you?
Have you studied about Khmer Empire? Return back those provinces ah Shams took.
10 Siam whores for one price. Most of them are shemales.
10:05PM. Preah Vihear wa snot built by the UN, but by Khmer Kings.
Ii is a set up to make ah Hun Xen look good! Siam will never too stupid to go against the Imternational court ruled!
Stupid 11:18PM
PV was built by Khom. Khmer King had nothing to do with the PV.
KHOM=KHMER
If you don't know go study the history of Sutheast Asia.
Some people like Burma still call Cambodia Khom.
This region Khmer (Khom) was the owner of everything.
All those Prasats or temples in Thailand or former Khmer Empire are belong to Cambodia. Our inscription is stil on all those prasat.
Cambodia (Khmer)+Khom= Khmer Empire!
Man, The Asians are too dumb.
The khom the shit whoeever you said were paid to built, but the guys with money hired them to build following the achitect Khmer Kings designed.
You don't build your own home by your self, but you designed your house.
Man the Asians are sufferinsg because hey are so darn stupid.
When are you fucken asian need to have some sort of make sense?
Shit ficking all stupid asians.
For a high rank commander to say such stupidities, that's pretty amazing.
He just tarnish Thai image further.
You can send all the Thai soldiers that you have, it will not change anything.
You are just a bunch of outlaws in the eye of International Community.
Your economy will plunge even more.
To us Khmer, Thai is an outlaw bandits that the China kicked them out.
To us Thai are Jon=Robber or Thief
HUN SEN knows this very will and of course he will surely win this war if it breaks out.
HUN SEN is 3rd grader but very smart even King Sihanouk lost to him.
HUN SEN come on spank the damn Thai!!!
Thai are sick people!!!!!!!!!!
Dirty spirits!
Hun Sen is well know only know how to kill khmer people and they called him a power man. When it comes to foriegn invader is a coward and chickend. Can you all tell me when you hear hun hen kill a foriegn invader?. Let get real.
Khmers are fucking great at lieing.
Khom empire was enormous before anyone's else in this region.
Khmers just took what were left after Khom's deterioration.
If not, ask your stupid brain, when did Khmers worship Hindu gods?
Is Hindu a real Khmers' belief?
Hindu descended from the Indian and Khom absorbed it to their cultures.
Khmers are foolish enough to believe or fool themselves that Khom---> Khmers.
See your own lies, all the idiots
11:31PM
KHOM=KHMER
11:34 PM
The khom the shit whoeever you said were paid to built, but the guys with money hired them to build following the achitect Khmer Kings designed.
So, who is lying whom?
11:34 said Khmers paid Khom to build the temple.
11:31 said KHOM=KHMER
What a great lie you guys are trying to fool yourselves or someone's else?
Khmers are fucking great at lying.
Khom empire was enormous before anyone's else in this region.
Khmers just took what were left after Khom's deterioration.
If not, ask your stupid brain, when did Khmers worship Hindu gods?
Is Hindu a real Khmers' belief?
Hindu descended from the Indian and Khom absorbed it to their cultures.
Khmers are foolish enough to believe or fool themselves that Khom---> Khmers.
See your own lies, all the idiots
11:31PM
KHOM=KHMER
11:34 PM
The khom the shit whoeever you said were paid to built, but the guys with money hired them to build following the achitect Khmer Kings designed.
So, who is lying whom?
11:34 said Khmers paid Khom to build the temple.
11:31 said KHOM=KHMER
What a great lie you guys are trying to fool yourselves or someone's else?
12:16 AM
Talk about one stupid thai trying to give us a history lesson on our own history.
Just shows how history lessons were taught to the thais and their people. Maybe thats one of the things that thais should work on improving.
There is not such thing called Issan province. It is the north-eastern region in Thailand. Are you Khmer from Si Sa Ket province? If so, go and help stop the demonstrators near the border. Can you speak Khmer? Your province is the poorest province in Thailand. You need our temple to economically survive. I understand that is why you want the temple badly. Don't worry, even though the temple belong to us, we will share with you in terms of tourists money. But first you have to stop the stupid Thais from claiming that the temple belongs to them. Use your brain, if you have one, to make sense of things nowadays. Things that happens centuries ago are histories. If you really want to talk about history, half of Thailand belongs to Khmer Kings. If you don't realize this, your brain may be of a side of a penut, which is smaller than those of monkies guarding the temple.
12:56AM
You'd better teach those two idiots Khmers first because they are the ones arguing what KHOM should be....
So, who is lying whom?
11:34 said Khmers paid Khom to build the temple.
11:31 said KHOM=KHMER
It is all started when the Thaicong government allowed their three undercover Thaicong civilian protesters to cross Cambodian border illegally and the three Thaicong civilians were detained by Cambodian authorities for breaking Cambodian law! The Thaicong government used the detention of the three Thaicong civilian protesters for breaking Cambodian law as an excuse to come into Cambodian territory to rescue them! The issue of Thaicong civilian protesters illegal crossing into Cambodia can be solved through diplomatic channel especially through the Thaicong embassy in Cambodia and why the fuck Thaicong military need to rescue Thaicong civilians who are break Cambodian law? Is this a fucken Thaicong hostage crisis on Cambodian soil? Of course not! So now as the Thaicong military personnel pour into Cambodian territory, the Thaicong government twisted the whole story 360 degree and now the whole story is about protecting Thaicong territory and sovereignty and it is no longer about rescuing the three Thaicong protesters who are breaking Cambodian law! The Thaicong government is blaming everything on Cambodia for violating Thaicong territory and Thaicong sovereignty! The Thaicong even blame Cambodian authorities for the troop build up! When did this happen about Cambodian military going to into Thailame to violate their territory and sovereignty? I want to know!
To make the matter worst, the stupid Cambodian authorities condoned the Thaicong aggression since day one by arguing for the Thaicong aggressor that the Thaicong aggrssor were using a different map which led to the confusion and that the local authorities can solve the matter themselves! So tell me what map does the stupid Cambodian authorities are using? Are they using the Thaicong map or International Map or the World Map? By saying the Thaicong were using a different map, the stupid Cambodian authorities had accepted military defeat because they allowed the Thaicong aggressor to use their map (not international map) to violate Cambodian territory and sovereignty at free will! And now the stupid Cambodian authorities are asking the Thaicong government to withdraw their troop from Cambodia? ahhahha It won’t be long the Thaicong military will use their Thaicong map to claim Angkor Wat and what can the stupid and incompetent Cambodian authorities do now? Oh well! The stupid Cambodian authorities can always say that is the confusion and the wrong map again! Ahhahahhahahhahahhah!
I never thought Cambodian authorities can be so stupid and incompetent! If anything needs to be done in solving the Thaicong civilian illegal border crossing and it would have been done on the very first day! It doesn't matter whether it is Thaicong civilians or Thaicong military personnel and they all must be stopped at the border crossing from entering Cambodia! And to allow the Thaicong military personnel to enter Cambodia in the hundred and heavily arm as if they are walking for a picnic and to have Cambodian soldiers sleep among as if they are brother and sister is unspeakable! It is a fucken joke to have stupid Cambodian authorities repeatedly warned Cambodian soldiers not to fire or start anything first unless the Thaicong fire on them first! As far as I am concerned the Thaicong military doesn't need to fire a single because they have successfully occupied Cambodian land and break Cambodian sovereignty already! Now it is too late for stupid Cambodian authorities to do anything and the Thaicong military is occupying Cambodian land and they are here to stay!
It is painful to be stupid and yes the Cambodian authorities are one motherfucker and they are feeling the pain right now because they can’t make the Thaicong government to withdraw their troop from Cambodia and all of them deserve to be executed at noon!
By the way, the Thaicong are creating the fucken problem in the first place and they are blaming the stupid Cambodian authorities for the problem! It is time to let the bullets fly and make the blood flow and I want to see death bodies because there is a price to be paid for violating Cambodian sovereignty!
2:19AM
Hallelujah Scambodia you said, right?
2:19 AM
If you're so good at judging others, why don't you join the Khmer army and fight the Thai soldiers?
If you are only good at barking, be quiet.... b a d d o g.
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