Sunday, August 24, 2008

Khom vs. Khmer - An observation by B. Yun on Siam travesty

Sunday, August 24, 2008

The Thais insist that they learn Pali-Sanskrit from the "Khom" and presently they event change their history to say that their "alphabets were derived from Khom" -- not from Cambodian or Khmer, and I have yet to meet a Khom citizen nor seen a country on any map with such name. To prove it that they really learned from the Khom and not Cambodians or Khmers, the Thais show Khom's alphabets on the top of theirs and theirs on top of latin alphabets.

B. Yun



30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hahhahahhahahh Ah stupid Thai ,that is Cambodian alphabet that most of them have been used in the pagoda 's school,only monks and the priest know how to write it very well ,am just still but not good as Cambodian monks,Hahahahah Ah thieves it still the thieves ,steal everything Cambodian have,what can I say Cambodian always have the stupid leaders anyway,
Fuck off Thai and fuck Hun Sen as well.

Keo S. said...

Yes, the Khom disappeared and went to joint the Amazon. :))

The Khom people were erazed off the earth. All that is left are the remains of their civilization. This is like saying the Egyptians, the Incas, the Mayans, or the Aztecs people for examples all disappeared from the current world and all that is left are what they built from century ago.

This is why we needs more Khmers historians, archeologists, and scholars because when you control the past you can use it to shape the future.

Keo S.

Anonymous said...

Come on...
everybody knows that Thai got their alphabets from Khmer. In fact they took more than Khmer alphabets. In the Thai royal court they immitated everything that is Khmer.

Everybody knows this, including Thai educators and the majority of Thai people. Only the ignorant Thais would tried to claim such thing. There's no point in pointing this out. Those that claimed such thing will only get laughed at and their ignorance and stupidy will reveal to the world. No need to worry. We don't have to counter-argue stupidity and stupid people.

Anonymous said...

This is what I found from this buddhist business site:
http://www.sak-yant.com/khorm/

Anonymous said...

11:21 PM

I totally agree with you. Let the Thais say whatever they want. The fact remains their language comes from the Khmer language.

A Concerned Khmer

Anonymous said...

The Siam is like a fish in the net. It struggles to get out to free itself from all guilt. But it can't. Because nothing can modify the truth, any truth of any matter.

I personally would not waste my valuable time to contest with any Siamese of such issue. They have been notoriously known to be "SHAMELESS". And therefore, they will continue to fight fiercely and attack all known truth that is placing them in a deep pit of shame.

Look deeper and thoroughly into historical facts and it shows that it's indeed ashamed to be a Siamese living on this planet. Any Siamese is a child of the criminal past. I rest my case.

Anonymous said...

Siem Script that copied & borowwed from Khmer,had no Hair ----> no Head.
That's why Siem are ungrateful to the origine race who are Khmer.

Anonymous said...

hello everyone. i looked up in the NEW MODEL THAI-ENGLISH dictionary. ขอม = n.a. Khmer, Cambodian; the Cambodian script, used in religous' books in Pali; a member of the ancient Khmer race, who dominatedthe indochinese Peninsula before the repudiation of Khmer sovereignty by Thai King Phra Ruang ขอมดำดิน n. an emissary of the Khmer King, who was sent to arrest Phra Ruang. According to legend, he was able to travel underground. When emerged to deliver the Khmer King's message, legend says he was turned into stone by Phra Ruang.

infact all Thai dictionary translate the word "ขอม" [Kom] as Khmer.


chgol

Anonymous said...

i hope the Thai won't race to change all the translation of their dictionaries. as i notice some of the thai dictionary do not include the word ขอม [kom] but they translate Khmer as Mon-Khmer or just Mon.
i also found in another dictioary
เขาพระวิหาร [khao phra wihaan]= an ancient Khmer temple on the Thai-Cambodian border.

chgol

Anonymous said...

เขาพระวิหาร [khao phra wihaan] litterally mean Mountain Preah Vihear.

Anonymous said...

soon tehy will race to change the names of khmer prasats located in siem - phnom rung, phum pon.

the siem are very confused about their identity. butthe khmer are not better these days. khmer leaders have no sense of their own identty - hun sen knows nothing about khmer history except power manic, so are other many khmer people. look at preah vihear, they are on teh way to sharing the wat keo svarak land as a white zone, after the6y signed traty after treaty ceding the eastern lands to the yuons.

Anonymous said...

Our hundreds of Doctorates(Phd. )from Pahok Chamroeurn aVichea University PPenh will soon study about this History and reveal the Truth soonest(2-months Phd).
Only 2 monthswithout any reference Diplomas we will complete Phd Theses...and will be shown by TV and Newspapers.....

Anonymous said...

Not only Khom is khmer without a doubt, about 60 % of modern Thai words are of khmer or its derivation. For example page 2, top, you posted reads: Baeb hat an hat khean nangsue khom dauy sangkheb. (how to read and how to write (khean) alphabets (nagseu) of Khom, a summary. The only Thai words are in red. The rest are khmer/khom.

Khom is the transliterational pronunciation of "khmer", that is Thai pronounce Khmer "khamen" or "khomen", whence khom.

Anonymous said...

This is how Thai is so cheap.. Thai not only steal our land, they steal our culture, language and more..King Bhum Vibolk you wake up..

Anonymous said...

Khom is ancient Angkor.
Khmer or Khamen is Post-Angkor, Cambodian.

So in Thai view, Khom is ancient Khmer not modern Khmer or modern Cambodian.

In Thailand now the word "Khom" is less used but "Khamen Boran" (ancient khmer) is more used.

Anonymous said...

to understand thai's view clearly is listen and read thai,especially watch thai tv every day,and then we will know what are they saying about us.ขอมเเท้

Anonymous said...

FUCK YOU FUCKING SIAM! YOU GOT EVERYTHING FROM KHMER! KHMER WERE YOUR FATHER!

FUCKING SIAM PIRATES!
DON´T FUCKING CHANGE THE HISTORY!

Anonymous said...

as we change our name to Cambodia as Thai calling กัมพูชา
( กัม-พู-ชา- ) [kumpucha] soon khmer will isolate itself from the real identity "Khmer" so i think we should change the name Cambodia to Khmer.

Anonymous said...

even i can recognize that these are khmer alphabet that they called "khom" or whatever. remember a rose by any other name is still smell like a rose. this same philosophy can be applied here as well. it is khmer alphabets you stupid siem thugs!!!!

Anonymous said...

Hello All;

As I'm a khmer, I usually identify myself as a khmer (Cambodia is my country). However, we should not blame Thai of being crazy. Those thai children are innocent, but their parents and grandparent are who we should blame because they had taught stupid history to their generations. lol, again we should not blame them, blame their grandparents instead... :-P

Jack Sparrow 007 said...

First.. Thai was not developed from Khmer, rather from pali Sanskrit uand the alphabet was invented using mixture of Sanskrit and also some Khmer. The language is based in Sanskrit, not Khmer (which the Khom language also was), and therefore Thyai language can have little claim to originate from Cambodian or Khmer.
Also - Thailand did not steal everything from Cambodia, rather Buddhism, Buddhist Art, and most Mythology came to both Thailand and Cambodia from India. All Cultures and Nations in the long run are just conditioned thoughtforms and concepts, which do not really exist, and all nations will come to an end one day (where id ancient Rome go? or Greek empire?.. all things are impermanent).
Noticing how muchhate and resent Cambodian people have for the Thais makes me worry that if Cambodia became a rich and developed country then i suspect that Cambodia would father a new host of faschist nazi inhuman race-hating monsters (as happened once before in the past.. and is the reason why cambodia is fucked - due to its own politics and nothing to do with Thailand)

I dont think i have sensed such negative hate and jealous energy opver the internet in my life as when i see Khmer based websites and blogs/forums all bitching about Thailand and blaming the fact that Khmers are all rolling waist deep in their own self made shit on the Thais.
Thailand didnt need to steal anything from Cambodia, and seeing what you did to yourselves in the political past it is only your own faults that you are now where you are (down in the gutter)
The Buddha once explained what causes a nation to fall into ruin.. but im not going to repeat it here.. just find out for yourselves and be proud of what good things you can think speak and do instead of complaining about what is your own fault.

The alphabet is Khom not Cambodian (has some differences), and you Cambodians "stole" your alphabet from the Khom people.. as did the Thais according to your theories.
No one can own anthing in the end .. to say i am brithish; well britain was invaded and rap-ed by romans, normans, celts, danes, angles, saxons.... so what does that make British people?? a mish mash of bastard sons?.. in the end we are all a mix of previous races and there is no such thing as a pure race.. countries change their names frequently and the belief in nationality and pride in ones race is the cause of hate, faschism and war..
what is now N.E> Thailand was once Khmer.. what is now Khmer was once some other country.. what is now france was once Gaul.. what is now spain was once carthage...
All things come to an end. So dont be so pround in beliefs that are impermanent and only bring negative thoughts and hateful feelings towards that which is other.

Anonymous said...

Don't worry about where Thai language came from, ask yourself first
where does the Khmer language came from? Who was the originator? The Khmer doesn't even know. At least for Thai, they have good understanding of the originator of Thai language and the influence of other languages. Thai never claim the language came from thin AIR.
Though years of killing one another - These barbarian KHMER only jealous of rich neighboring country. CLAIMING they were the inventor.
Their culture also stole from Hindu and other SEA who were here before them.

Anonymous said...

6:42 PM and 3:54 AM, good post.

I agree with you. Khmer and Thai alphabets are all derived from Khom which is from language of India.

Anonymous said...

Lol Horus your an idiot. Your explaination is so text book thai history. You must love yourself some thai pussy don't you. Keep your bias bs off khmer blogs cracker. Also we never said we invented our alphabet, we fully understand that it derived pali/sanskrit. The khmers, mon, and the javanese were the first in the region to incorporate it. Thais weren't even remotely in the region until the 10th century where yhey migrated from southern China. Also you know the thais were oppressed by the khmers for almost 200 years. Ever heard of the Khmer Empire? who dominated and converted most of mainland SEA to their religion and culture. My point is the thai people learn directly from the khmers who learned from the hindus. Defend the bs thais you want but the facts are on the khmer people side. Lmao keep differentiating Khom from Khmer, the truth will eventually be revealed.

MON KHOM KHMER said...

A white dude that lives in Thailand trying to teach Khmer their history?

That's funny.

What your pale ass doesn't know is that Indians were long gone before Thais came from Yunnan mountains.
They were escaping the mongols.
They loved Khmer culture so much that they were bilingual in Thai and Khmer.

Khom are Khmer. Mon and Khmer are relatives. If you read the royal chronicles you will see that the Thais called us "KHAM"

We've been here since day. Our skin speaks a thousand words.

Anonymous said...

Khom ខោម and Khmer ខ្មែរ est le même, mais les Thais prononcés "Kham" "Khamara" "Khemarak" kamae signifie tous Khmer..

Anonymous said...

Il est possible de l'ère Jayavarman II avait réunit tous les différents clans Khorm et Khmer. Peut-etre Le roi avait adopté le Khmer définitif..
Mais ce qui est certains à Angkor c'était le Khmer et le Sanskrit qui ont été utiliser pour se communiquer.
C'est écrit sur les galeries d'angkor wat.

Anonymous said...

KOMBUJEATESA > KOMPUCHEATES > KRONG KOMBUJEA > Under France protector became Cambodge or Cambodia.

Khmer ( Pre-Angkor- ក្មេរ KHMAE, Angkor-ខ្មេរ KHMAE, Post Angkor- ខ្មែរ​ KHMER).

KOMPUCHEA(meaning golden land) was the country's name of Khmae/Khmer Empire.

Khmae/Khmer = Kombu + Meru(Mount Meru in Hinduism) then in short sound Kombumae > Komae > Khmae > Khmer.

For Thai who think Khmer is another race from Khom, you were wrong.

The word ក្មេរ/ខ្មេរ​ carved in hundred of temples but the Thai intention to ignore it and re-write their own history. One of Thai kings even tried to move Angkor wat to Bangkok but fail due to 300 Khmer ambush killed those who tried to steal their wonder. They end up build one of Angkor Wat replica in Bangkok.

Anonymous said...

In the past Thai government are taught Thai people to hate Myanmar but they fail and we love Burmese the most. Why? It might have something to do with why Thailand has the most tourists. It's not just changing the name and people will like it, but it has to come from inside.

Khmers were taught to hate Thailand even though Thailand helped everything. The road was built provide more than 400 kilometers of railway tracks There is a war, We take care of immigrants. Cambodia still uses the past to judge Thai people endlessly whether to sue Preah Vihear. Burn the Thai embassy Slander Thai stars. Even the Khmer people do that, Thai people still give them jobs. Why haven't the Khmer people out of the hatred that your government has brainwashed or benefit for political issue. How long will you guys stay like this? You guys are destroying yourself.

Anonymous said...

Cmabodian people used Khom language to create their Khmer language today and they have some nerve to claim that Khom ans Thai language came from them, Khmer/Cambodian. I died laughing and now I was reborn again.