Monday, October 20, 2008

Thailand needs to show it is sincere

19th October 2008
Opinion by Khmerization
Originally posted at http://khmerization.blogspot.com

Letter to the editor,
Bangkok Post
webmaster@bangkokpost.co.th
"The peaceful resolutions to the present conflict is possible only if Thailand abide by its commitments to a diplomatic and peaceful solution. If Thailand continues its military aggressions and encroachments, armed conflict is inevitable. Thailand must practise what it had preached to Cambodia, and that is stop sending troops into Cambodian territories and start withdrawing."
Dear Sir,

The article published in the Bangkok Post on Sunday October 19th, 2008 titled "Cambodia needs to show it is sincere", written by Thanida Tansubhapol is lopsided, one-sided and most importantly, ill-informed. It is Thailand, and not Cambodia, who needs to be sincere regarding the resolution of the Preah Vihear conflict.

While Cambodia has been very patient with the continued Thai encroachments and sincere all along in the negotiations, Thailand has been very deceitful. Thailand has steadfastly refused to withdraw its troops from the Cambodian territories during the many fruitless talks in the past. On the contrary, Thailand has chosen military solutions instead of diplomacy when it sent its troops to occupy the Preah Vihear areas on the 15th of July this year. Thailand has employed a macho-man and strong armed tactics to bully Cambodia over Ta Moan Thom and Ta Krabey temples, Phnom Trop and Veal Entry which culminated into a deadly fire-fight on the 15th of October. Where is Thailand's sincerity?

The lack of sincerity on the part of Thailand was evident in the fact that it has steadfastly refused to withdraw its troops from the occupied territories and Thailand's relentless attempts to block Cambodia's efforts to resolve the dispute through diplomacy, like through the UN Security Council and legal means, such as the International Court of Justice. Thailand, instead, has chosen to flex its military muscles, even during Mr. Sompong Amornvivat's talks with PM Hun Sen on the 13th, two days before the deadly fighting, Thailand had sent in their troops to cross the borderlines which resulted in Mr. Hun Sen issuing an ultimatum for Thai troops to be withdrawn. These kinds of military bullying and armed provocations have escalated into the fighting on the 15th. Again, where is Thailand's sincerity?

Cambodian should accept Malaysia's and Indonesia's offer of a mediation. Cambodia can show them the documents and maps from the 1904-1908 treaty. Cambodia can bring those Malaysian and Indonesian mediators to the sites of the conflicts and show them the 1904-1908 maps to locate whether they are locating inside Cambodia or inside Thailand. This is one way that Cambodia can prove to the world of Thai encroachments and Thai aggressions.

The key point in any peaceful resolutions to the conflict be would that Thailand allows diplomacy to run its course, whether bilateral, regional or international. For any diplomacy to run its course successfully, Thailand must first withdraw all its troops from the territories it has occupied and return the situation to normalcy, and that is the pre-15th of July 2008 status quo.

Thailand has vehemently opposed to the internalisation of the Khmer-Thai conflict because Thailand has no legal basis in which to fight for the ownership of the territories that they have claimed. Thailand has refused to negotiate based on the documents from the Khmer-Thai treaty of 1904-1908 because the territories that Thai troops have occupied are located inside Cambodia, according to the maps from the 1904-1908 treaty. If Thailand is sincere enough, it would have withdrawn its troops from the Cambodian territories, then set up a joint border commission with Cambodia to demarcate the borders, using the internationally-recognised documents of the 1904-1908 treaty between the two countries.

The peaceful resolutions to the present conflict is possible only if Thailand abide by its commitments to a diplomatic and peaceful solution. If Thailand continues its military aggressions and encroachments, armed conflict is inevitable. Thailand must practise what it had preached to Cambodia, and that is stop sending troops into Cambodian territories and start withdrawing. Then demarcations of the border can proceed by using the documents and maps from the internationally-recognised treaty of 1904-1908 signed between the two countries. If Thailand is sincere enough, this is the way to go and the border issues can be settled peacefully. The solution this way will bring about a long lasting and good neighbourly co-existence between the two countries. Military solutions, which currently employed by Thailand, can only lead to bloodshed and misery for the people of the two countries. Military occupations by Thai troops need to be stopped!

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

The original 13 colonies founded between 1607 & 1783. One of the commentor that represent the Thais in the forum said, Thais are friend with America for more than 300 hundred years!

The guy must slept in Am. Hist class.

Anonymous said...

Emotion and always emotion.

Why bother to ask thief or bandits for sincerity. Ask it to focus right on the clause is fair enough and already too much asked.

Anonymous said...

KI please post this article by Dan Rivers a CNN reporter. This is his opinion piece and impression he got during his tough trip to Preah Vihear.

http://inthefield.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/18/the-standoff-at-the-temple/

Anonymous said...

1:31 AM

Did you not know that the American and the British are brothers.

Thai took side with the British and later the American, 300 years ago.

Is it clearer now?

Anonymous said...

If Cambodian govt believe that THAI is still a good neighbor and still want to coexist peacefully with Cambodia, they are deadly wrong.Don't be so naive,all THAI want are PREAH VIHEAR,TA KROBEY TEMPLE ,TA MORN TEMPLE and more of the khmer territory.Cambodia should rearm itself ,and be vigilant at all time.If THAILAND really want peace with khmer ,they should not violate khmer territory at all.

Anonymous said...

I don't think Hun Sen is that crazy, to believe Thai bullshit.

Thailand is not looking for peace.

I'm not fond of Hun Sen but he not naive.

Anonymous said...

The exact number of Thai-American friendship is 175 years.

http://bangkok.usembassy.gov/embassy-activities/2008/january/04.html

Anonymous said...

The Thai and the Brit have commercial ties since the 16th and 17th century. The Brit and the US sign a friendship treaty with the Thai in 1855.

Anonymous said...

Hun Sen he is not naive,but some time too strong with a small trouble ,
in the international politic stage we are not going to show the threat,but collect all papers trail ,evidences witnesses for the last and go to fight for the winner.

Anonymous said...

The Thai want our land and we ask them to show their sincerity.
It's like asking the devil to give you justice.

Anonymous said...

i know, the thai are so one-sided. they think everything in cambodia is about them. every khmer person is aware when we read their newspapers, etc... they always talk so one-sided. perhaps, they are taught to think that cambodia doesn't exist or something. not!!!! we're here like them, get used to it!!! i'm sure when cambodia started to talk like them, then they are nothing to cambodia. what goes around comes around! thai people should start to acknowledge cambodia when they speak to foreigners. it's not all about thailand anymore!!! tourists are starting to like cambodia and they all come to cambodia by the millions. it is cambodia's turn to get the taste of luxurious life style. the thai are getting old as like they say, nothing can last forever, most definitely nobody can live forever!!! god bless cambodia.

Anonymous said...

Help me,Is King of Thailand was born in UK?.

Anonymous said...

Bhumibol is born in Cambridge,Massachusetts, US.

Anonymous said...

This piece by Khmerization is a strong rebuke to Bangkok Post and Thai policy-makers. Thailand always think that Cambodia is untrustworthy and not sincere. Thailand is the one who is untrustworthy and very deceitful. They go to negotiations but never intended to sign anything because they don't want to withdraw from the Cambodian territories. What they want is Preah Vihear, Ta Moan, Ta Krabey and other potential tourist areas along the border. Very greedy and very cunning.

Anonymous said...

Where the hell is Scam Rainsy and Kim Sucka in this period of crisis? They seem as quiet as a cat.

As opposition Scam Rainsy and Kim Sucka always said that they are better PM than Hun Sen. We voters want to know how they "WOULD" handle this situation better than Hun Sen. But where are they now, so quiet? in the bunker shitting all over themselves.

Scam and Sucka only know how to criticize Khmer and work to ban foreign aids to Khmer, but when it comes to protect Khmer, they have no ideas. I have lost all my faith in the opposition now, after this crisis and after Scam flip flop his pledge to boycott NA as a result of bribes by Kith Meng.

I repeat this: Now it shows why Cambodia needs Hun Sen. Scam and Sucka are hopeless useless foreign idiots.

Anonymous said...

Well well, what can Sam Rainsy do about this? He is not in power. Hun Sen is the government.

Anonymous said...

6:48 AM

What was that?
You like a fly in a soup.

LOL.

Anonymous said...

Dear all,

Why did khmers only argue Thais as thieves?

How did about over 100,000 Viet troops still occupying Cambodia, recently declared by Hun Sen as Yuon Puppet ?

Khmer leaders,Hun Sen,N.Sihakmony,
plus N.Sihanouk, all VIOLATED the
1991's Paris Peace Agreement by Legalizing with additional Treaties to yuon in 2005 ?

Logically why did Thai, as one of the signatory country on the Prasi Peace Agreement has to comply with it, even though Cambodians'leaders,
plus Vietnam did not respect this Agreement ?

To END this Impass Hun Sen, Sihakmony, Sihanouk have to cede Cambodian territories to Thai, as the same way they had given Khmer territories to Vietnam.

Viet, as Hun Sen's master, forbid
HS to bring this matter to the U.N or talking about the Paris Peace Agreement at all. Otherwise The Vietnamisation of Cambodia will be revealed to the whole world.

This is the FACT, why all Cambodians, inside and overseas, did not, and does not see this ?

All of us had eyes, and brain to analyze this fact finding, why we do not talk about the truth behind this Khmer-Thai conflict ???

Anonymous said...

8:00 Am i completely understand/accept/agree with your points. The fact is that currently we are able to deal only with the thais due to the leaders we have in Cambodia. The eastern borders will be dealt at a later stage when we have the right leaderships...as of now no khmer can cough about it or samdach will send free coffins for us. A bird in a hand is better than two in the bush....as a saying goes.

Anonymous said...

คนไทยนั้นคิดว่าตนเองพิเศษนัก ผมถามจริง ๆ เถอะครับ ที่ให้กระทรวงการต่างประเทศไปประชมเรื่องความวิวาทชายแดน กับประเทศกัมพูชา เป็นเด็กเพิ่งแต่หัดอมมือหรือครับ เดียวบอกว่า จะยกเลิกนี้ยกเลิกโน้น ฯ มีนักวิชาการไทยหลายคนชอบพูดว่า คนเขมรเชื่อไม่ได้ ถามอีกที ใครกันแน่ที่เชื่อไม่ได้ ประเทศไทยน่าจะ รู้ว่าประเทศตนเองได้มาโดยการปล้นดินแดนของขอมมาเมื่อ พ.ศ. 1189 หรือพวกคุณกล้าเถียง

หลายเดือนที่ผ่านมาปราสาทตาเมือนธม ไทยอ้างนักนาว่าเป็นของตน เอง แต่พอไปเช็คแผ่นที่ของ Google earth รู้ว่าเป็นของกัมพูชา ก็รีบเดินเรื่องใหญ่ ไอ้สันดานที่เคยเป็นโจรตั้งแต่อดีตไม่ทิ้ง

ถามจริง ๆ เถอะครับ คุณคิดว่าต่างประเทศเขาโง่หรือครับ ว่า ใครรุกรานดินแดนของใคร

Anonymous said...

No matter if america been support Thailand in the past.But now time have change and the world is changing.People in the whole world know what's good and what's bad.
May God Bless and protect the Kingdom of Cambodia.

Anonymous said...

Just one word to the siem: Leave my land or Die!!!

Anonymous said...

To 8:10AM and all Khmer compatriots,

A bird in a hand is better tnan two in the bush...

Yes I'm agrtee with you, the root cause, Viet occupying force of Vietnamisation, should be solved first, before solving the Khmer-Thai conflict.

This is the THAI REASON to encroach Khmer territories to force
Cambodian to cede something to Thailand.

Either Thai doe not want Cambodia to bring this conflict to U.N, otherwise Thai will loose and got nothing. But Thai had known that Viet, as Khmers' master, forbad HS
to bring this to the U.N, so that
the Paris Peace Agreement will be
revoked to solve this matter.

Anonymous said...

To 8:27 AM,

If you want to leave comment. Write in English or Khmer, but not that trash characters.

Anonymous said...

Cambodia needs to stop labeling Khmer people Thai, Viet, or Lao in order to steal their lands and valuable from them.

This is dangerous, and it can lead to a new set of mass graves in Cambodia.

Anonymous said...

9:37 AM, 8:27 AM, is a Khmer studying in Thailand. He is trying to send a message to Thai readers about Thailand's flip-flop and its cancellation of the meeting with Cambodia. He is condemning Thailand for its invasion of Cambodian territories. It would be good if he can write some English besides Thai text. But maybe the guy can't write English or not good in English. But he is trying to reach out to Thai readers. He writes in favor of Cambodia. Good on him.

Anonymous said...

8:27AM Your Thai language are awesome,I know all your Thai skill full meaning, thanks you that Cambodian every where around the Globe has shown their intelligences to reflect what is right and wrong .
It doesn't matter the Thai try to teach ,twisting words lying to it people and the world,but with your comment The Thai are death wrong.
May Buddha blessing Cambodia!

Anonymous said...

Thanks Kmerization for your article. It is meaningfull

Anonymous said...

I have no idea where he was born, yet what i've known is that he was made from a bitch. Totally, he is son of a bitch who was dug with a bunch of dicks. That's y his head resembles to a dick or he is a dick-head who always want juicy pussy that is made of blood of others. This ladyboy motherfucker always stays in his whorehouse with his pimp ordering blood from those who attempt to shake his coward throne.

Anonymous said...

According KHMER BOTRA 's comment Cambodia can use GOOGLE EARTH TO prove PREAH VIHEAR and few more castles along ,they are locate in OUR TERRITORY

Anonymous said...

Not that zombie 9:51 AM again, is your brother the other guy that is so stuck with Sam Rainsy?

Go back to your grave zombie.

Anonymous said...

Go shoot and don't talk....after all turn you cannon toward Hun Sen to free Cambodia from Vietnam Pupet.

Pagnapavaro