Sunday October 19, 2008
THANIDA TANSUBHAPOL
Bangkok Post
The clash between the Thai military and Cambodian troops along the border on Oct 15 has raised questions about Phnom Penh's sincerity in settling the border dispute through diplomacy.
The road to peace has been ruined despite several rounds of multi-level meetings between the two countries.
The two nations have promised many times in the past few months to exercise restraint. But Phnom Penh has failed to keep its promise.
Every time a clash happens, the Foreign Ministry has summoned the Cambodian ambassador or the charge d'affaires to protest against the Cambodian action, and they always promise to resolve things through negotiations. But a short time later, another clash occurs.
The fighting last Wednesday was quite serious - seven Thai soldiers were injured and two Cambodian soldiers killed.
After the Foreign Ministry went through its usual pattern of protesting through diplomatic channels, Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen said on Friday that the conflict would not end in war, that both sides would exercise restraint along the border and the problems would be tackled through bilateral talks. But what does that mean?
Phnom Penh's past record in keeping its word has not been good. And because of this Thailand has started to have doubts about its neighbour's sincerity. Asean members Indonesia and Malaysia have even offered to act as mediators.
The Cambodian government needs to show it is genuine about settling problems through bilateral talks.
Bringing bilateral problems to the international community or to the International Court of Justice, as earlier suggested by Mr Hun Sen, will not help ease tensions and instead will only heat up the conflict.
Cambodia became angry in July after the government opposed its request to take the border issue to the multilateral level through Asean members and the 15 members of the United Nations Security Council.
The Cambodians thought the government feared losing the case if it went to the International Court of Justice, which is what happened 50 years ago when Thailand lost the Preah Vihear temple to Cambodia in the same court.
In fact, Thailand has never feared taking a case to court. Thanks to many countries like the United States, China and Russia, as well as UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon, Thailand has stuck to its position and not played Cambodia's game.
The Phnom Penh government should know that the world has changed and no third country wants to get involved or support another country in a war against its neighbour, especially if nothing would be gained by that third country.
A key point in the conflicts between Thailand and Cambodia has been the demarcation of the disputed 4.6-square-kilometre overlapping area. The issue is unlikely to be settled unless border demarcation is finished.
Examples from other countries with similar border problems can be used as a model.
Until the problems are resolved, both countries must abide by their commitment and exercise restraint. This will surely take time, but a victory from the process will likely last longer than one derived from war.
The road to peace has been ruined despite several rounds of multi-level meetings between the two countries.
The two nations have promised many times in the past few months to exercise restraint. But Phnom Penh has failed to keep its promise.
Every time a clash happens, the Foreign Ministry has summoned the Cambodian ambassador or the charge d'affaires to protest against the Cambodian action, and they always promise to resolve things through negotiations. But a short time later, another clash occurs.
The fighting last Wednesday was quite serious - seven Thai soldiers were injured and two Cambodian soldiers killed.
After the Foreign Ministry went through its usual pattern of protesting through diplomatic channels, Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen said on Friday that the conflict would not end in war, that both sides would exercise restraint along the border and the problems would be tackled through bilateral talks. But what does that mean?
Phnom Penh's past record in keeping its word has not been good. And because of this Thailand has started to have doubts about its neighbour's sincerity. Asean members Indonesia and Malaysia have even offered to act as mediators.
The Cambodian government needs to show it is genuine about settling problems through bilateral talks.
Bringing bilateral problems to the international community or to the International Court of Justice, as earlier suggested by Mr Hun Sen, will not help ease tensions and instead will only heat up the conflict.
Cambodia became angry in July after the government opposed its request to take the border issue to the multilateral level through Asean members and the 15 members of the United Nations Security Council.
The Cambodians thought the government feared losing the case if it went to the International Court of Justice, which is what happened 50 years ago when Thailand lost the Preah Vihear temple to Cambodia in the same court.
In fact, Thailand has never feared taking a case to court. Thanks to many countries like the United States, China and Russia, as well as UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon, Thailand has stuck to its position and not played Cambodia's game.
The Phnom Penh government should know that the world has changed and no third country wants to get involved or support another country in a war against its neighbour, especially if nothing would be gained by that third country.
A key point in the conflicts between Thailand and Cambodia has been the demarcation of the disputed 4.6-square-kilometre overlapping area. The issue is unlikely to be settled unless border demarcation is finished.
Examples from other countries with similar border problems can be used as a model.
Until the problems are resolved, both countries must abide by their commitment and exercise restraint. This will surely take time, but a victory from the process will likely last longer than one derived from war.
35 comments:
Siam is a nation of "dead conscience", meaning its inner sense of knowing wrong from right is blown away by a mine of insanity.
No one in the right mind can rationalize of reason with this snake like attitude of the Siam.
Moreover, this race is absolutely shameless and without human sense of living in honor. It has no honor in its existence. It's a people of criminality.
Rubbish.
Rubbish.
That how Thai extremists provide false information to the public, and that how they faked stories and put them in textbooks for school kids. I wonder how long they can hold.
"Thanks to many countries like the United States, China and Russia, as well as UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon, Thailand has stuck to its position and not played Cambodia's game".
I quote this comment from the BP. And in this comment I find it childish and it sounds much like a remark from a grad C junior high kid. Shits on his own head and dances with broad smile on his face. Damn chucklehead. Go back to school, Chuck.
The siamese needs to face the truth and I think they can't handle the truth that's why keep changing the fact all the time. The above author needs to check her facts before making an opinion about Cambodia which is fall short of facts. It is the Siam is the THIEVES not Cambodia..when you look at the historical facts you know where the Cambodia Empire rests. So, do yourself a favor and your kid if any...tell them the truth. I know the truth is hurt but learn how to accept the truth as is...
"The fighting last Wednesday was quite serious - seven Thai soldiers were injured and two Cambodian soldiers killed."
How many Thais were killed?????
They just talk shits, liars they are. We, khmers just protect what we have got left, you already took many provinces from us, you are such a greedy neighbor. Never got enough. Addicted to invading and agressing to the neighbors.
Shut up if you don't know the truth. You cannot face the truth. Your government is playing political game, not Cambodia. We live in peace, we develop our country and we never bear the greedy mind to invade anyone. We still show generous to your soldiers, we treated them as human, not like you. We have the right to protect our territory which you invade.
Khmer
I've try to post comment on Bankok Post regarding why Thai military and all others news agency in the world doesn't report Thai soldiers fatality and capture, it was unsuccessful. Bankok Post admit to recieve my comment and will edit and post my comment. Guess what?, Bankok Post did not post my comment.
From what I understand, Thai people can not be truthed.
The world does not know the the truth, yet.
BKK can post your comment and remove its business or remove your comment and keep their business. I'm afraid it keeps the business. If you check the coup 2006 history wiki, military suppressed all medias.
Thais are the only race on earth flip flop twisting story and history.
Thailand keeps saying Thai soldiers patrolled their Thai territory peacefully.
Suddenly Thai soldiers blew up themselves losing their legs on the land mine!!!???
If Thai patrolled inside Thailand territory, where those mines coming from????
Thai soldiers killed thousand Khmer refugees in 1979-1980 at Dangrek Mountain, no one takes Thailand to the crime court yet. Thailand never apologized to Khmer people for its crime against humanity for killing Khmer refugees.
Khmer alphabet, Khmer vowels and Khmer numerals have been using by Thais as the Thai official language, Thais never give credit to Khmer people but to claim more lands and more temples belonging to Thais.
For the past 700 years since Khmers helped Tai people from the Mongol and Khmers helped Siam from the Burmese, Thais never built and created anything by their own to impress the world, but to destroy Khmers, steal Khmer lands, steal Khmer culture and Khmer temples and claimed belonging to Thais without shame.
Tansubhapol, it’s easy if you want peace in the region, just tell those alcoholics, Thais to go home. Peace will happen over night. Cambodian doesn’t have any interest in bully its neighbor, but Thailand does. Thailand tried with Burma, Malay and Laos and failed. And now, Thailand tries with Cambodian.
Be honest and report the true.
To AH FUCKING THAI ANYTHING TO RESPOND WITH ALL THE COMMENT ABOVE YOU SHITY SHAMELESS NATION ?
We are always sincere. You, thieves started putting you decorative military in our land and have tried shamelessly to claim Preah Vihear as yours. Get back to where you were and stop aiming your fucking artillery cannons at us. How sincere is it?
It seams that Khun THANIDA (from Thailand) does not have any knowledge in International Relations and live in a different world. I suggest this Khum THANIDA to read more newspapers and follow the situation, so that in the future he or she will write a meaningful article based on the reality!
any suggestion how to get those thai criminal to court when they kill thousands of our Khmer people in Dangrek mountain push on to landmines?
Is it not a big deal when Khmer died on landmines because Thai pushed us on to them.
Is it such a big deal when Thai step on land mine themself by pushing themself on to the landmine.
You know quite well we still have landmines, and your government want to take us to court send you there.
your thai gorvernment is the muderer.
we all must take them to find justice.
Clash would not had happened if the dumb Thai didn't approach Khmer land in the first place, that's it, period. Don't blame it on Cambodia. Thai didn't want the case to go to the UN as I recall.
8:23
Get with the program the ICJ and UNESCO agreed Preah Vihear belong to Cambodia. Are you still living in The Stone Age?
You need strong gov.t ready to protect the people! That's how things work! Guess what your gov.t has done enough to face such incidents. Folks this incident happens everywhere: you're weak and you will be exploited! Ask your gov.t since most of you despire this gov.t very much, right?
Look at what this gov.t has done: ruling for over two decades and military is no better than forces to suppress the local people lawlessly and shamelessly. Coz the military serves their purpose and ambition well: suppress and kill those who dare to speak out against their animals instinct no better than animal instinct. Protecting only own pride the associates and clans interest!
And when it comes to war(actually this war can threaten their power. Ask them that they worry if the Thai fighting jet plans to target their camp in PP?)That's exactly what they worry about.
And you see why the ruling gov.t refuses the mediation by third party or bringing the case to UN or be ruled by ICJ or seeking legal assistance from Paris Peace Accord? Coz this will revise all the treaties with YOUN-gov.t and land ceded to YOUn so far. As well as the illegal YOUN-immigrants living and flowing rampantly into Cambodia.
If the ruling gov.t is not brailess, illiterate and using the animals'instinct, what else as better words to decribe their leadership?
Khmer NY
I cant believe myself. You killed your own people, the Khmer rouge, why dont you blame yourself. What is your logic? Khmer is still Khmer like our ancestor said.
Oy, Meeter Intrenasonales, Mitter Wes-terner, you lie my padtai noodles and tom-yum?? Tai verlee verleer goud people, you lie, you lie? Khamer not leally verlee nie people, you no? Oy khobkhoun amelika and other countries lie dat who lie Tai people. We hope you see tai are verlee nice, lie padtai noodles.
9:57
U still stuck in A Stone Age too? The trial for the KR leader has already taken place?
What did your ancestor said about us Khmer?
This article is useless, its author is crazy. there is no balanced news.
AH THANIDA TANSUBHAPOL is still learning how to write! Even a fifth grader can write better than him!
What AH THANIDA TANSUBHAPOL fails to realize is that the road to peace is for all Thai aggressors to leave Cambodian territories now! The Thai leaders must stop insisting on using unilateral map which is the cold war map to dictate what Cambodian leaders can do or can not do!
It is the Thai leaders who initiated the border conflict since the beginning by sending their military to occupy Cambodian territories and it will be the Thai leaders who will end the conflict! It is time for the Thai leaders to come clean and behave like a civilize human being otherwise all bet are off!
The guy who wrote this article is genuine ignorant Thai that believe firmly in whatever their unstable leaders say.
If THANIDA TANSUBHAPOL where to build a spaceship, the pilot will never see the earth again.
I thought that Hun Sen was talking bullshit most of the time. But the Thai way way way... worst then Hun Sen.
How they do it, it seems so natural to them?
They are not even aware of it.
" Oy, Meeter Intrenasonales, Mitter Wes-terner, you lie my padtai noodles and tom-yum?? Tai verlee verleer goud people, you lie, you lie? Khamer not leally verlee nie people, you no? Oy khobkhoun amelika and other countries lie dat who lie Tai people. We hope you see tai are verlee nice, lie padtai noodles.
10:06 AM"----> You make me laught my ass bro...hahaha...really remind me a Thai whore, I used to fuck in the ass..hahahaha
To editor...I really appreciated your knowlege..It is only for kid in kindergaten.
Anyway..I am so surprised that YOUR OFFICER SAID UR ARE RENTING FOREIGN EXPERTS ON PREAH VIHEAR Case...It mean that coz aLL OF YOUR bangcock university PHD are brainless or shithead? that is why u need foreign expert?..hahahah
Anyway, your writing make me think that why ur govt. need foreign expert!!!..coz it is brainless writing!!!!
I pity THANIDA TANSUBHAPOL's wife and children. How can you live with psycho like him.
This siemese is so bias.
Look at your own country's mistake too, dude!
Shame on Bang Cock Post for issuing such shamefull article to fool the public.
How much more patience do u want to see from Cambodia, u silly head?
Tansubhapol's brain is full of shit. I can't believe such a professional newspaper like Bang Cock Post employ such a rubbish brain to write article.
Thai people are the hate foolish people in the world. they're criminal,selfish,hatred,brainless,
hardhead,greedy. they alway think they are alway better than other. what a shame for what this people are.God will vanish this people from this earth soon.
Shame on you Thanida Tansubhapol who wrote this article to represent your own country Thailand. Thailand is the one who should show sincerity to the public and the world. Since this Preah Vihear matter was started by PAD, Thailand provided a lot of fault information to the public to keep its face clean, but its ass is still dirty. Bangkokpost used be a neutral media, but now look at you Bangkokpost most of your articles were provided under some circumstance of a pressure form your military coup??????
It seems to me that the Thai and their government have something against the people of Cambodia. The thai people offline and online are against Cambodian and always twisting the truth so it makes them look good in the eyes of the international communities.
I've seen and read countless negatives messages and articles targeting Cambodian and to make Cambodian look bad while they try to portrait themselves (siam) as the friendly and lovely people.
Their lies will one day catch up to them and i sure hope that day will come sooner than later.
4:34 PM, they are good liars.
I hate Thailand men but I like Thailand girl!
But I never give away my land coz of Thai girl.
Thai PM is okay to talk with him, but the big dickhead Anupong the Shithead Thai army leader is really shit, this guy is more power than Thai king too.
He is a murderer, by sending his army to get kill by Khmer army.
And this shit Thanida is full of shit, it said Thai never fear of going to the UN or ICJ, but Thai did every thing to stop Cambodia not to take them to the UN or ICJ from the first start of this issue.
Thai are always ask Hun Sen for more bilatteral talk why not go to the UN or ICJ so both nation will be happy to live together and acept the ICJ decision.
To shithead Thanida you should go and clean your ass, for your lady boy.
The Siamese are generally like frogs, it is its culture forged to nature, reasons and intelligent of its race. It is the nature of fanatics and antisocial clowns. This kind of people cant hear other’s reason that its ones. Frogs always believe that universe as big as its little dark hole as its elders or ancestors used to tell it. It is Siamese nature and intelligence
Southeast Asia. The historic peoples of SE Asia began arriving some 2,500 years ago from China and Tibet, displacing scattered aborigines. Their agriculture relied on rice and yams. Indian cultural influences were strongest; literacy and Hindu and Buddhist ideas followed the S India-China trade route. From the S tip of Indochina, the kingdom of Funan (1st-7th cent.) traded as far W as Persia. It was absorbed by Chenla, itself conquered by the Khmer Empire (600-1300). The Khmers, under Hindu god-kings (Suryavarman II, 1113-c. 1150), built the monumental Angkor Wat temple center for the royal phallic cult. The Nam-Viet kingdom in Annam, dominated by China and Chinese culture for 1,000 years, emerged in the 10th cent., growing at the expense of the Khmers, who also lost ground in the NW to the new, highly organized Thai kingdom. On Sumatra, the Srivijaya Empire controlled vital sea lanes (7th to 10th cent.). A Buddhist dynasty, the Sailendras, ruled central Java (8th-9th cent.), building at Borobudur one of the largest stupas in the world.
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