December 11, 2008
HOR NAMHONG VERSUS SAM RAINSY :
HEARING AT THE FRENCH COURT ON DECEMBER 9, 2008
HEARING AT THE FRENCH COURT ON DECEMBER 9, 2008
Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Affairs Minister Hor Namhong has filed a defamation lawsuit against Sam Rainsy before the French Court following the publication this year in France of a book by the opposition leader titled "Des racines dans la pierre" (Rooted in Stone).
The hearing which took place at Le Palais de Justice in Paris started at 4:50 pm and ended at 8:30 pm.
Hor Namhong was there with five lawyers. They brought Raoul Jennar, a Belgian "expert on Cambodia", as a witness. Sam Rainsy was there too but with only one lawyer and no witness.
Hor Namhong's arguments
1- Former King Norodom Sihanouk was condemned by the French Court on January 23, 1991 after being quoted as saying in the French newspaper Le Journal du Dimanche dated July 23, 1989:
"L'équipe de Monsieur Hun Sen est composée d'anciens Khmers rouges archi-criminels. Par exemple, Hor Nam Hong, ex-commandant d'un camp de concentration Khmer rouge, est responsable de la mort après d'atroces tortures de beaucoup d'anciens membres de la résistance anti-américaine, tels mon cousin le prince Sisowath Méthavi et son épouse, sœur aînée de ma femme… "
"Mr. Hun Sen's team is made up of former arch-criminal Khmer Rouge officials. For instance, Hor Nam Hong, ex-commander of a Khmer Rouge concentration camp, is responsible for the death, after atrocious tortures, of many former members of the anti-American resistance, such as my cousin Prince Sisowath Methavy and his spouse, who was my wife's elder sister…"
According to Hor Namhong, Sam Rainsy in his book made against him the same allegations as the ones Norodom Sihanouk made nearly twenty years ago; Sam Rainsy should then be condemned in the same way as the former King was condemned by the same Court.
2- Hor Namhong lost many relatives under the Khmer Rouge regime. Therefore, he could not have cooperated in any way with the Khmer Rouge.
Sam Rainsy's arguments
1- In his book Sam Rainsy actually wrote:
"Hun Sen n'était pas seul dans son cas: la plupart des supplétifs du régime vietnamien avaient frayé avec les Khmers rouges. Quand Ranariddh et Hun Sen eurent définitivement scellé mon compte, ils ne trouvèrent pas mieux que de nommer à la tête de mon ministère Keat Chhon, celui qui, pendant tant d'années, fut le principal conseiller de Pol Pot. Et quelques années plus tard, le Ministre des Affaires Etrangères serait un ancien collaborateur du pouvoir khmer rouge soupçonné d'avoir causé la mort de nombreuses personnes dont des membres de la famille royale".
"Hun Sen was not alone in his case: most of the Vietnamese regime's auxiliary staff had cooperated in one way or another with the Khmer Rouge. When Ranariddh and Hun Sen had definitively decided on my fate, they did not find anything better than appointing at the head of my ministry Keat Chhon, the man who, for so many years had been the main adviser to Pol Pot. And several years later, the Foreign Affairs Minister could be a former collaborator of the Khmer Rouge regime suspected of having caused the death of many people including members of the royal family."
Sam Rainsy points to the fact that what he wrote is not exactly the same, in the content and in the form, as what former King Norodom Sihanouk had reportedly said.
2- There have been new developments and new evidence against Hor Namhong since 1991 when the former King lost the first lawsuit filed by Hor Namhong before the French Court. Sam Rainsy refers to The Cambodia Daily report "Clouded History" published on July 1-2, 2000, the interview of Senator Keo Bunthouk (Mrs. Ieng Kounsaky) titled "A camp called Boeng Trabek" published in The Phnom Penh Post dated January 19 - February 1, 2001 and the book by Ong Thong Hoeung "J'ai cru aux Khmers Rouges" (I believed in the Khmer Rouge) published in Europe in 2003. Related documents at http://tinyurl.com/56czqh
Hor Namhong said that he had filed a defamation lawsuit in Phnom Penh against The Cambodia Daily for the above-mentioned report and that he won the case. Out of the two authors of the report, only the Cambodian reporter [Thet Sambath] was condemned by the Cambodian Court because the other one, who is an American national [Kelly McEvers], "ran away." He said that all the defamation cases initiated by him in Cambodia have been closed because all the concerned journalists [including Dam Sith, the editor of Moneaksekar Khmer (Khmer Conscience) who was jailed for one week this summer], have apologized to him.
Raoul Jennar said that he has been hired by the Khmer Rouge Tribunal in Phnom Penh (ECCC) as an "independent expert." To defend Hor Namhong he said that the genocide perpetrated by the Khmer Rouge was "centralized" in such a way that "only six persons in the Khmer Rouge top leadership could make the decision to kill any person." He also said that the Cambodian government is in no way responsible for any delay in the judicial proceedings at the ECCC.
The French Court will decide on the case on January 27, 2009.
The hearing which took place at Le Palais de Justice in Paris started at 4:50 pm and ended at 8:30 pm.
Hor Namhong was there with five lawyers. They brought Raoul Jennar, a Belgian "expert on Cambodia", as a witness. Sam Rainsy was there too but with only one lawyer and no witness.
Hor Namhong's arguments
1- Former King Norodom Sihanouk was condemned by the French Court on January 23, 1991 after being quoted as saying in the French newspaper Le Journal du Dimanche dated July 23, 1989:
"L'équipe de Monsieur Hun Sen est composée d'anciens Khmers rouges archi-criminels. Par exemple, Hor Nam Hong, ex-commandant d'un camp de concentration Khmer rouge, est responsable de la mort après d'atroces tortures de beaucoup d'anciens membres de la résistance anti-américaine, tels mon cousin le prince Sisowath Méthavi et son épouse, sœur aînée de ma femme… "
"Mr. Hun Sen's team is made up of former arch-criminal Khmer Rouge officials. For instance, Hor Nam Hong, ex-commander of a Khmer Rouge concentration camp, is responsible for the death, after atrocious tortures, of many former members of the anti-American resistance, such as my cousin Prince Sisowath Methavy and his spouse, who was my wife's elder sister…"
According to Hor Namhong, Sam Rainsy in his book made against him the same allegations as the ones Norodom Sihanouk made nearly twenty years ago; Sam Rainsy should then be condemned in the same way as the former King was condemned by the same Court.
2- Hor Namhong lost many relatives under the Khmer Rouge regime. Therefore, he could not have cooperated in any way with the Khmer Rouge.
Sam Rainsy's arguments
1- In his book Sam Rainsy actually wrote:
"Hun Sen n'était pas seul dans son cas: la plupart des supplétifs du régime vietnamien avaient frayé avec les Khmers rouges. Quand Ranariddh et Hun Sen eurent définitivement scellé mon compte, ils ne trouvèrent pas mieux que de nommer à la tête de mon ministère Keat Chhon, celui qui, pendant tant d'années, fut le principal conseiller de Pol Pot. Et quelques années plus tard, le Ministre des Affaires Etrangères serait un ancien collaborateur du pouvoir khmer rouge soupçonné d'avoir causé la mort de nombreuses personnes dont des membres de la famille royale".
"Hun Sen was not alone in his case: most of the Vietnamese regime's auxiliary staff had cooperated in one way or another with the Khmer Rouge. When Ranariddh and Hun Sen had definitively decided on my fate, they did not find anything better than appointing at the head of my ministry Keat Chhon, the man who, for so many years had been the main adviser to Pol Pot. And several years later, the Foreign Affairs Minister could be a former collaborator of the Khmer Rouge regime suspected of having caused the death of many people including members of the royal family."
Sam Rainsy points to the fact that what he wrote is not exactly the same, in the content and in the form, as what former King Norodom Sihanouk had reportedly said.
2- There have been new developments and new evidence against Hor Namhong since 1991 when the former King lost the first lawsuit filed by Hor Namhong before the French Court. Sam Rainsy refers to The Cambodia Daily report "Clouded History" published on July 1-2, 2000, the interview of Senator Keo Bunthouk (Mrs. Ieng Kounsaky) titled "A camp called Boeng Trabek" published in The Phnom Penh Post dated January 19 - February 1, 2001 and the book by Ong Thong Hoeung "J'ai cru aux Khmers Rouges" (I believed in the Khmer Rouge) published in Europe in 2003. Related documents at http://tinyurl.com/56czqh
Hor Namhong said that he had filed a defamation lawsuit in Phnom Penh against The Cambodia Daily for the above-mentioned report and that he won the case. Out of the two authors of the report, only the Cambodian reporter [Thet Sambath] was condemned by the Cambodian Court because the other one, who is an American national [Kelly McEvers], "ran away." He said that all the defamation cases initiated by him in Cambodia have been closed because all the concerned journalists [including Dam Sith, the editor of Moneaksekar Khmer (Khmer Conscience) who was jailed for one week this summer], have apologized to him.
Raoul Jennar said that he has been hired by the Khmer Rouge Tribunal in Phnom Penh (ECCC) as an "independent expert." To defend Hor Namhong he said that the genocide perpetrated by the Khmer Rouge was "centralized" in such a way that "only six persons in the Khmer Rouge top leadership could make the decision to kill any person." He also said that the Cambodian government is in no way responsible for any delay in the judicial proceedings at the ECCC.
The French Court will decide on the case on January 27, 2009.
26 comments:
Both men Hor Nam Hong & Kit Chon should be brought down to justice. For crying out loud these two devils were almost at the top of tree during that time. They must know everything. Beside shouldn't the advisor be a bad as the killers themself? hell! Bring them down!!!
Muahahaha .... Ah Scam Rainxy's days has been numbered!!!
if the report above about poverty in cambodia is correct, then why are they leaders wasting money fighting each other, instead of help the poor, disadvantaged people in cambodia? go figure! perhaps everyone there is hypocritical, including the opposition people! until these leaders realize what they are doing is only hurting cambodia and people there, they are no better than the others they claimed they are. i hate to be pessimistic, but i hope people can see this and vote them all out of office, sooner or later!
..we know all along that pol pot was the mastermind of the crime. but sihahouk, hor namhong, keat chong, willingly or unwilling are instruments of the crime against humanity. they all should prove their innocence in the present international court.
..we know all along that pol pot was the mastermind of the crime. but sihahouk, hor namhong, keat chong, willingly or unwilling are instruments of the crime against humanity. they all should prove their innocence in the present international court.
i'm sure most cambodian people aren't very impress with these leaders who seems to know only fighting each other endlessly. shame on you all, leaders!
..we know all along that pol pot was the mastermind of the crime. but sihahouk, hor namhong, keat chong, willingly or unwilling are instruments of the crime against humanity. they all should prove their innocence in the present international court.
Pol Pot and a few of his friends cannot kill three millions people without the help of Hor Nam Hong and Keat Chhon. These two evils should bring to justice. Usually the real killers are survived and the scapegoat would have died to cover up the real killers. Keat Chhon was a personal advisor to Pol Pot and his wife was a Vietnamese. He has surived. That is a strong suspect of the crime.
In 1979 Keat Chhon, Hor 5 Hong, Sok Anh were and are (Preah reach Kru of Hun Sen) Keat Chhon's wife was yuon hanoi, Sok An= Sok Anh in yuon language and hor 5 hong is real yuon name.
An international court should issue the arrest of these people and charges for war crims and crime against humanity. Mr. Pol Pot can't kill 2-3 million people by himself.
In 1979 Keat Chhon, Hor 5 Hong, Sok Anh were and are (Preah reach Kru of Hun Sen) Keat Chhon's wife was yuon hanoi, Sok An= Sok Anh in yuon language and hor 5 hong is real yuon name.
An international court should issue the arrest of these people and charges for war crimes and crime against humanity. Mr. Pol Pot can't kill 2-3 million people by himself
According to statements made by Hor Namhong in his defense,
the genocide perpetrated by the Khmer Rouge was “centralized”
In such a way that “only six persons in the Khmer Rouge top leadership
Could make the decision to kill any person.”
I am Cambodian, now a U.S. citizen. I personally had experience with
the Khmer Rouge. These statements made to defend Hor Namhong are
incorrect. Any Khmer Rouge could kill any person right on the spot without
any reference to or discussion with any leader or “top leader”.
REMIND ME OF OJ SIMPSON trial.He OJ had three lawyers to defense him,because he guilty then he so scare that he gonna be end up in the jail,now Mr. Ho Namhong he afraid of the French court find him guilty so he need five lawyers to be his shield for his Cambodian genocide .
At the end he (OJ) still ending up in the jail from 15 to 30years .
Mr.Ho you know what you have done to our innocent khmer so stop lying ,you can lie but you can hide because all the evidences are piling up to through on your face.
God bless Mr. Ransy and Cambodia!
REMIND ME OF OJ SIMPSON trial.He OJ had three lawyers to defense him,because he guilty then he so scare that he gonna be end up in the jail,now Mr. Ho Namhong he afraid of the French court find him guilty so he need five lawyers to be his shield for his Cambodian genocide .
At the end he (OJ) still ending up in the jail from 15 to 30years .
Mr.Ho you know what you have done to our innocent khmer so stop lying ,you can lie but you can hide because all the evidences are piling up to through on your face.
God bless Mr. Ransy and Cambodia!
11.26
ah fake siem, get fucked
, check ur brain ah lop
Raoul Jennar - the IDEPENDENT EXPERT - said "only six persons in the Khmer Rouge top leadership could make the decision to kill any person."
How can one who is called the independent expert of KR tribunal said something like that. There were at least half million ex-KR cadres who had full right to execute people without seeking consent from anyone. Raoul Jennar you haven't done your homeworks before you said such a thing. I give a simple example, even a village head can murder any members under his/her control.
You are completely insane!
Raoul Jennar you are absolutely wrong,if you do not know anything from your ass to your face do not get that job ,I'm telling you you are plain wrong you worthless defender.I support 6 :02 comment but furthermore even the little 11,12 years old the villages securities or kong chlorb they were able to kill the news comers or 17 April as well.
Who know that court website ? Please help to write all complaint to that court,and thanks you in advances am not belong to Ransy party nor Funcinpec but am on of khmer rouge victim,once again all Cambodian PPL let the world know what's wrong and what's right.
Borisothkhmer ca
7:05 correction ==>>one of
Thank you Hor Namhong for liberating Khmer from Ah notorious killer (Scam Rainxy)!
Jey Yoh, Hor Namhong!
Jey Yoh, Hor Namhong!
Jey Yoh, Hor Namhong!
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Raoul Jennar also known as the "Belgian charlatan" is far from being "an independent expert" the ECCC dishonours itself by employing people like Jennar and also that woman Helen Jarvis who organized a party to celebrate the takeover of Phnom Penh in April 1975 by the Khmer Rouge at New South Wales University (Sydney, Australia) People have short memories but some of us don't. The ECCC is rapidly loosing its little credibility left by employing such foreign mercenaries to defend the Khmer Rouge in power in Phnom Penh.
Why did Hor namhong not sue Thai PAD regarding the allegation of Cambodia Government getting great sum of money from Thai owner Casino in Poipet and other border Casinos??
(Please read PAD declaration...)
Excellency bandit Phd General 7 diamond stars Oknha Achar Knoy(=Achar wat Koh)
I found so funny with some idiots who talked nonesense and off-subject in this article.
But unfortunately he/they seemed isolated in the forum.
Thank you all comment poster who expressed opinion around the topic.
Keep it up!
Do you know how much to spend to stay one day in France? How much is a two-way air ticket? How much to hire a lawyer?
Do these guys, especially Mr. Hor, use their own money? Why Mr. Hor needs 5 lawyers?
Appreciate so much if anyone could answer the above and/or give further information.
Raja
An answer to Raja:
Not to worry about all these expenses though his own pay can not afford but must not forget that he still has over 1.7 billion US$ approved by NA recently, to expose of.
KC's wife is a Viet who ran from Phnom Penh teaching job at Indra Devi High School with KC to join the then coalition of KR, Viet Minh and Viet Cong. They were not the clique of the pro-china K Rouge, that could explain why they have prospered so well with the current Hanoi pact.
I believe the defamation against Ah achkai Vietcong Hor Namhong should take place at my backyard while I'm shitting on the grass.
Ah Scam Rainxy is going down, Muahahahaha!!!
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