Vietnam invasion has been banned by the major vote in the UN, why some of us here still see Vietnam's invasion is right?
If a Khmer man agrees that Vietnam invasion is right, he/she should go to live in VN rather than shouting from Cambodia land.
In reality, VN has planned to annex Cambodia long time ago. Their invasion of Khmer land was not intending to free Cambodia, but to install their puppet for their long term domination.
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You don't have to go live in Vietnam just because you see Vietnamese invasion as a positive thing for Khmer race. Only ignorant racist Khmer that let ethnic racism be the barrier between them and the truth.
Vietnam invaded Cambodia. What did Cambodian people lose? Maybe here and there but nothing compared to the million of lives saved and the Khmer cultures. If Vietnam didn't invade, how many of you so high and mighty self-proclaimed Khmer warriors would be here to express your opinions so freely?
Despite whatever the intention of the invasion was, Vietnam consequentially saved Khmer people and culture from extinction. If you have been through the Khmer Rouge time, you would be a cynic or a legally retarded person to disagree with that.
Just by accepting the fact that Vietnam did save Khmer's ass doesn't mean I am worshiping them. I am simply able to come to term with what actually happened, unlike some people.
There are many Khmer who turned themselves into cynics just because they can't accept history for reality's sake.
I apologize to generalize Khmer overseas as being ignorant of that. I know that there are Khmer overseas who can see what is what and not have extreme ethnic racism blind them from the truth. Many of those Khmer I'm talking about are from Canada. Many of whom believe in the progress and the current Khmer government but afraid to openly say so. That's what I hear from my uncle in Canada. However, that is changing because many of them are starting to voice their beliefs and opinions over those cynical bunch. If you're from Canada, you know what I'm talking about exactly.
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3:20AM
Khmer has experienced badly about the accusing of "political involvement" or "racism" when Cambodians express their opposite view to the government. Current government has learned well how to label the opposite dissents. They have learned well from the Khmer Rouge.
The idea of disfavoring the presence of VN in Cambodia land and their invasion is not linked to racism or disrespectful to the dignity of Vietnamese people at all. You should not overstate about that.
Simple things for you to consider:
1. The UNs as well as the international communities have condemned VN of their invasion in Cambodia and they have to withdraw all troops. So, this decision is wrong for you? Or this decision is racist to VN?
2. For the sake of Khmer and future Khmer, do we favor foreign invasion in our land? Or do we favor brutality happens in our land? The answer is both of them are piss!
3. What is your central productive debate for Cambodia? Or your central debate is to divert the Cambodian people who has less understanding about the situation, the internal laws, the brutality, and the sentiment of Cambodians?
Learn more and use your brain before throwing something unproductive like this.
But what we have seen now, Hun Sen government has paid much attention to VN, so does this evidence not show the VN's long term intention to keep their status quo in Cambodia or what? VN's domination over Cambodia is still ongoing or not?
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2:55 AM and 4:08 AM,
My post is 2:47 AM. I signed my name Free Spy.
After I read your reply I don't believe you understood my comments.
Your words are your own bombs, so fix it and use your brain before you write a reply.
Getting too excited doesn't help.
Ask me what I meant but don't change my word from great to right.
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More corrupt degrees like Sophan Seng won't help Cambodia to become a competitive nation with other develop and competitive nations in the world.
Degrees like this only help to create more corruption over the already so rotten in Cambodia.
4:40 AM
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Many Khmers before Sophan Seng earned PhD in Political Science at oversea Univ., but they couldn't do much to help the country. Not many jobs available for them if they don't have Computer skill to do the job. Yes Sophan Seng i sgoing to have a tough time to earn the living with that no use degree. May be Sophan Seng can join Theary Seng with a good income in Cambodia. By the time the ECCC runs out of cash at least each has a few hundred thousand dollars in their bank account. Then go to the next one.
4:52 AM
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am wondering "sake of the degree" is for money or for fame or for goodness or for what?
But criticizing his academic degree with that idea reflecting only the persons who always think and practice in that way.
5:19 AM
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4:08 AM
You tell other to go back and learn more but you seem to be the one that just doesn't read thoroughly or comprehend fully what my comment meant.
Can you quote when in my comments on this article did I mention or even refer to any welcoming of Vietnamese invasion? You yourself need to learn stop putting words in people's mouth and need to learn to listen to what other are saying, not just listen but hearing only what you want to hear because it seems whatever I wrote down doesn't get through your ear canal at all.
You still think I am saying I welcome Vietnamese invasion because you are so open-minded that you only pick up from my comment what you want to hear. Maybe, something you should learn is to not jump into a discussion with a preconceived mindset.
If you read my comment carefully you would get that I said Vietnam invaded Cambodia but whatever their intention, they saved our asses. Now accept that fact or not, regardless of any of your nationalistic ego. The history has it Vietnam invaded Cambodia. Vietnam drove out the autogenocidal Khmer Rouge. Those are historical accounts.
I am not trying to give credits to Vietnam because their intention was something different from saving Khmer but I am grateful as a normal human being would, despite their intention, of them because they did kick out the Khmer Rouge from power and thus Khmer people were saved from the Khmer Rouge's murdering campaign.
Now, can you comprehend the above?
Let me put it in an analogy term what I am saying.
You are standing waiting to cross the street on a curb. A drunk driver is driving recklessly on the road and is going to hit you. By the time you realize this approaching car, it is too close already for you to escape. You are bound to get hit for sure. A biker out of nowhere hits you from behind before the car hits you and knocks you out of the way of the car. You are alive with a few bruises.
The biker didn't have the intention of saving your life. His knocking you out of the way of the car was not intentional at all. But, he did save your life, didn't he?
Would you be mad at the biker or be a decent human being and thank this guy for saving your life even if it was unintentional of him?
My point in understanding and appreciating the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia is the same as the analogy above. They didn't invade to save Khmer but they did. Can you get that notion? You wouldn't go cuss and beat the shit out of the biker that just unintentionally saved your life, would you? Get it?
As for appearing to be a victim of double standard in racism. I am a Khmer person and I lived in Cambodia and in the US so I can tell from personally experience that Khmer are very racist toward the Vietnamese. Don't try to justify that using the old I'm a victim technique. Now, I am no Vietnamese so I don't know if they are racist toward us but from my experience as Khmer, I know for a fact that Khmer are racist toward the Vietnamese.
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5:49AM
Comparing like a biker and the drunk driver is not realistic to the situation, particularly political situation happened between Cambodia and Vietnam. If you spend your time a little to read the history of Cambodia and Vietnam relationship from the past to the period of brutality, you will learn new thing and perceive some complex things better than just analogy such a simple one.
Every scholar and historian concluded that VN created Pol Pot party, and VN created CPP. The designer painted this story. The KR and CPP are the two outstanding actors in this play. Take your time to watch the movie called "Resident Evils". You will realize the concept of the play writer and the play actors. Cambodian people through these two outstanding groups are the actors. Actors can only act, cannot rewrite the play?
Your simple assumption is like that: you are the actor, you can not upgrade yourself to rewrite the play. Cambodia will loss its race if it cannot update to rewrite the play. More we act, more we loss to the play writer.
Regarding RACISM. We don't have empirical study that Khmers are racist towards VN. First, many researchers assumed that KR is racist toward Vietnamese people. But they found out that many Vietnamese still survived from the KR. If we compare the number of death, we can see that KR's cadres and their families/members died more than other groups including Buddhist monks, Muslims, minority, Vietnamese, Chinese etc.
So, be in empirical analysis...don't use your own emotion to judge others.
Khmers are not racist at all. Part of their extreme opinions are caused by the political leaders and political environment that have been using violent political rhetoric to contend their opponents. Khmer people are easy out going, honest, smiling and kind...etc But the culture of violence-prone from their leaders make them worse.
You should spend more time to study general Khmer characteristic.
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6:33 AM
"Khmers are not racist at all. Part of their extreme opinions are caused by the political leaders and political environment that have been using violent political rhetoric to contend their opponents."
No matter what your motive is. Justification for racism is all the same. Worthless.
The white people justify slavery by saying black people are subhuman. Even scientific studies conducted by the white men support his ideology of white superiority. Does that justify slavery? You make the call.
As for Khmer who are subjected to your so-called violent political landscape, your action defines who you are. Your justification for racism among Khmer are caused by a system of self-defense? The white felt like they were defending themselves too to keep black enslaved.
The KKK justifies their racism as a self-defense against the extinction of white race. Does their justification make them not a racist? They are just defending themselves, right?
You and other people who justify your hatred by saying you're defending yourself from unfavorable political environment?
You say you're not racist but just reacting to events. Maybe you should consider this. Your unfavorable events make you defensive and a racist in the process.
Like I said, I am Khmer and Khmer are just like other race. There are nice and bad ones. There are racist Khmer and there are open-minded Khmer. Don't try to cover up the racism we have. The way to solve problem isn't to justify it using bogus excuses but to face it and work from there.
A person can be a loving open-minded one to some people but not so to others. Khmer are no exception. Khmer could be so nice and welcoming to our own kind and say white people but not so much to black huh? My uncle didn't want to buy a house because it was located next to a black family. Is his action a defense for his safety or his concern for his safety brings out racism from him?
I am no perfect person so I am also fallible to all these problems. But, at least, according to me, I see that. Some people become instantly blind when it is their mistakes.
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Anonymous Free Spy said...
7:54AM,
Humans are all racist to some extent, just that some don't show like some do.
You can argue about what racism means, but surely not that it means absolutely nothing.
Not every French colonist identified himself as White Supremacy, or not every Vietnamese identidied himself as the invader, or not every Khmer identified himself as the bad Buddhist.
We use the English language as a form of our communication, but not every critic understand ours.
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7:54AM
Now you are dragging to the big topic of racism. So, now you get that the problem of self-defending is racist or not? Khmers from the past to present are the victim. So, when the victim reacted to the perpetrator, it is racist or not? Between Khmer and Vietnam, which one is the perpetrator and which one is the victim.
I don't want to detail this problematic issue.
But to have empirical study about RACISM in Cambodia would be worthier.
In America, there were handful evidence of racism because the white enslaved the black, traded the black, and pissed out the black for centuries. Nazi Hitler targeted the Jews and tended to extinct them.
How about Khmers? How about Khmer Rouge regime that is known for its most brutality? Did KR kill all other race like Hitler? Or everyone single family of Cambodia also lost their relative?
So, get into your mind now. Khmers in empirical study since the past to present, we don't have evidence that Khmers are racist at all? We heard that Khmers are racist from Vietnam part only?
Vietnam labeled Khmers as racist,and Hun Sen followed that, and you also follow that too?
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Um, both the Khmer Republic and Democratic Kampuchea purposefully killed a lot of Vietnamese civilians. Not that I defend Vietnam, or Thailand for that matter, but the idea that Cambodia has also been a victim is a result of nationalist education, or distorted sense of diaspora. How do you think Khmer Empire got to be an empire in the first place if Khmers were always victims?
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So, when you link to the very long time of history of Khmer Empire about its victim or perpetrator, it has two premises:
1. Vietnam and Thailand were not born in that time.
2. So, what your productive debate linking to present?
Our central debate now is abut Khmers are racist to Vietnamese or not?
What else do you want to make our debate precise?
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Vietnam also killed many Khmers and Khmer Krom.
Thailand also killed many Khmers at the camp.
We have all the evidence to study about this killing. But it seems not in case of racism. It was just a trajectory of political hatred.
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5:56 PM
Vietcong has no any religion,truth!
Vietnam invaded lots of cambodian border land without any strong attention from the govt. Sometimes govt. mislead the public attention to just only Thai border dispute, so that the public don't pay much attention to Vietname invasion. As earlier last month, huge land rental by viencong companies to farm, invasion....etc....occurred along vientnam and cambodia border but the government and the press does not put much focus on that....so be a cambodia...to focus any inches of your border land, not just thai bandit, also pirate vitcong or viet minh....all are bandits and pirate.....
Dire que les Khmers sont RACISTES c'est méconnatre l'HISTOIRE KHMER et l'histoire de l'ASIE DU SUD D'EST Pour ceux qui sont sceptiques loi en tant que khmer Loeu invite qui disent que les Khmers sont racistes à visiter le testament de HO CHI MINH . Ce que moi je souhaite c'est que les Khmers ne se transformeront plus tard en 2nd CHAMPA N'est pas le mot Viet nam on entend le son CHAM Si les khmers sont racistes il n'y a pas des chinois des peuples Kola d'origine birmane des chams et d'ailleurs Kg CHAM il y a des chams Mais vu la situation et vu l'héritage que laisse Samdach Ta et merci Samdach Ta bientôt tres tres bientôt il n 'y aura plus les Khmers Qui est le responsable encore le traite Sirimatak ou ce LON NOL ou je ne sais pas qui A cause le cynisme d'un homme un peuple est en train de perdre son identité Merci Samdach TA
Hi all, anyone who said that VIETNAM saves KHMER LIVES...if no vietnam invades Cambodia, Khmers would all be killed by KR. that is WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!!!go back to school again please!!!!!!!!!
Please do not start from the middle of story....you must and must start from the begining of the story. You must say that if there's no VIETNAM,KHMER WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN KILLED about 2-3 millions during KR regime.
Koun Khmer Korm
When you are defending yourself from being extinct, it is not called "racist". How much more evidences that you need to be able to distinguish if Khmer is a victim or a perpetrator? We Khmer just defending for what is rightfully our. What is he implying when he said "How do you think Khmer Empire got to be an empire in the first place if Khmer were always victim?" Is he saying what is going around comes around so live with it? Was he there during the Khmer empired to witness Khmer killed Youns and Siems. What books or history fact that he read to come to this conclusion? This person is too arrogant and think he is too educated for all of us. What he needs is to get his brain check and stop calling himself Khmer because this kind of Khmer is what caused our Empired to collapse.
What the Viet-Namese SAVE Khmer Krom from?
Why Viet-Namese Steal 21 provinces of Khmer's Land?
Can any Viet Namese answer to these questions?
On January 07, 2009, Khmer Academy wrote and published an article in KI blog. The article is included here for those who missed it. Readers can form their own opion Vietnam 's true intention.
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The Untold Truth of Jan 07, 1979.
The event of Jan 07, 1979 continues to generate protracted debates in our country at different levels and classes of society. Whether at political or academic institutions, professional or business communities, or casual web blogs, these debates have polarized the nation into two camps – the increasing majority who view Jan 07, 1979 as a full scale invasion with the intent-to-occupy; and the few who, for a matter of convenience, chooses to portray it as a genuine humanitarian intervention from Hanoi to save Khmer people from the KR killing machine.
At the center of these debates, the very same question has been raised repeatedly. What was the real motive(s) leading to the Jan 07, 1979 event? To these days, the answers to that question not only remain unsettled, but also continue to predominantly influence the nation affairs because of its far-reaching historical, socio-political and economical dimensions.
In this editorial, the author will endeavour to present an impartial view of the Jan 07 event based on personal experience, available historical and researched data, and genuine and verifiable information from credible sources; and hope to set the record straight.
In order to correctly understand the real motive(s) behind the Jan 07 event, it is important to revisit a series of key events starting from the Indochina anti-colonial war era.
During the struggle against the French colonialism (1946 -1954), a small number of Khmer nationals joint the Indochina Communist Party (ICP) which was created and controlled by the Vietnamese communists. However, many Khmer nationalists and intellectuals who also sought the independence from France at that time refused to joint the ICP movement because it was evident to them that the military defeat or rapid withdrawal of French colonialism would open the door for Vietnam to annex Cambodia.
In 1951, the Khmer section of the ICP was given the name of Khmer People’s Revolutionary Party (KPRP) under the leadership of Son Ngoc Minh, Sieu Heng and Tou Samut. Although they had their own party name, the KPRP leaders were nothing more than obedient executors of all plans drafted by the Vietnamese communists.
The Vietnamese communists betrayed their KPRP comrades when they signed the 1954 Geneva Agreements and withdrew their combat units from Cambodia. That betrayal allowed the Sihanouk armed forces to reclaim the zones occupied by the ICP and consequently liquidate many KPRP members. On the verge of collapsing, the KPRP went underground and largely disappeared from Hanoi vision for many years.
As the Vietnamese communists started the unification war in the South, they made an alliance with Sihanouk in order to use Khmer territory to create rear bases and deliver ammunitions and weapons to the South. In exchange, the Vietnamese communists would again betray their Khmer communist comrades by scrapping all plans for the Khmer communists to fight the Sihanouk regime.
With no outsider help and little hope to win, Sieu Heng, the second-in-command leader of KPRP, betrayed his comrades and secretly informed Sihanouk regime of Khmer communist activities in the country. In 1962, Sihanouk secret police found and killed Tou Samut at a hide-out in Phnom Penh.
In the middle of the KPRP chaos and absence of firm control from Hanoi, Pol Pot managed to get himself elected to the post of the General Secretary during the party congress in 1963. Completely caught Hanoi off-guard, Pol Pot quickly renamed the KPRP to the Communist Party of Kampuchea (CPK). Pol Pot later explained that the reason for changing the party name from KPRP to CPK was that the ICP and its by-product KPRP were created by Vietnam to occupy Cambodia and Laos lands.
By mid sixties, Hanoi realised that Sihanouk’s support for its armed struggle against American imperialism was weakening as Lon Nol and Sirik Matak increasingly opposed such support. Hanoi suddenly remembered its old allies – the KPRP, which had been renamed to CPK. However, Hanoi found out that due to its oversight or negligence, it had to confront many unexpected problems with the new CPK leadership.
People in Pol Pot’s clan who were nominated to occupy highest posts were largely unknown and suspicious to Hanoi because they were educated in France and were not checked for allegiance to the Vietnamese communists. Furthermore, unlike his elder comrades or predecessors from the 1950’s era, Pol Pot openly and vigorously promoted and defended a policy that Khmer communists should act in accordance with their own purposes and interests independent of all (i.e. independent of interests of Vietnamese brothers).
Recognizing the threat that Pol Pot’s clan was setting aside its interests, Hanoi considered two options – creating a new communist party in Cambodia with Khmers trained in Vietnam, or infiltrating agents inside Pol Pot’s structure. The Vietnamese communist leaders picked the second option which allowed Pol Pot to temporarily preserve the power, but hoped their infiltrating agents would be able to gradually remove him from the leadership position.
A few days after the Sihanouk regime was disposed by the military coup d’etat of Mar 18, 1970, the Vietnamese communists entered Cambodia arguably in response to Nuon Chea’s request. The Vietnamese occupied almost a quarter of Cambodia territory and transferred the control of the “liberated” regions to CPK. During that time, the Vietnamese leadership aroused obvious hostility and mistrust among Khmer communist leadership when it openly declared that the Cambodian communist party was given a subordinate role and obliged to follow all directions set by the Vietnamese Workers Party (VWP).
Under the 1973 Peace Agreement signed in Paris, Hanoi agreed to fully withdraw its forces from Cambodia. That agreement represented a unique opportunity for Pol Pot’s clan to break the Vietnamese influence and control within the Khmer communist structure. In the same year, Vietnamese communist leadership publicly admitted that the initiatives taken by the Khmer communists were out of its hands. In 1974, Pol Pot made it known to Le Duan that the relationship between the two communist parties was based on mutual respect and non-interference.
With the communist victories in Phnom Penh and Saigon in 1975, Hanoi had successfully accomplished one of the two Ho Chi Minh’s sacred dreams – unify North and South Vietnams, but failed the other dream – creation of Indochina Socialist Federation under the Vietnamese domination. Pol Pot continued to defy Hanoi by declaring that the KR had won a definitive and clean victory without foreign assistance, meaning the KR did not owe anything to Vietnam.
But that was not how Hanoi saw it. Hanoi was hoping that their infiltrating agents were working to gradually strengthening its influence in Cambodia. By September 1976, under the pressure from various factions, Pol Pot temporarily resigned his post of Prime Minister and made statements to fool his enemies that he was willing to soften his stance toward Vietnam.
The news of Pol Pot’s resignation was seen by Hanoi that its infiltrating agents were gaining the upper hand. In that same year, Le Duan indirectly told the Soviet Ambassador that Cambodia would become sooner or later part of Vietnam.
It turned out the news about Pol Pot’s resignation was totally misunderstood or misinterpreted by Hanoi. Hundreds if not thousands of KR pro-Vietnamese cadres trained and “introduced” by Hanoi into Pol Pot ‘s structure were arrested and tortured while Le Duan was telling his Soviet allies that Pol Pot’s clan was weakening.
For all these years, Hanoi incorrectly thought that people like So Phim, Ta Mok and Nuon Chea were loyal and sympathetic to the Indochina federation idea. Soa Phim may have opposed the Pol Pot’s killing regime, but by no way he was a pro-Vietnamese as Hanoi had sought. In fact, Soa Phim was a bitterly anti-Vietnamese.
Hanoi finally recognized its obvious and repeated failures to remove Pol Pot from power through internal uprising, and lost patient with the endless border fighting started by the KR since Spring 1977. It also realized that the Beijing was training, arming KR soldiers, building roads and military bases, including the Air Force base in Kampong Chhnang, which made it possible for a fighter jet to take off and reach Saigon with less than half an hour. Such possibility posed an unacceptable threat to Vietnam national security, and Hanoi was compelled to plot a new strategy to get rid of Pol Pot by staging a coup d’etat through the mutiny of the Eastern zone military forces. Since that option ended with a complete disaster and suicide of Soa Phim, Hanoi finally decided to overthrow Pol Pot regime by a massive military invasion, which were secretly and meticulously prepared since Summer 1977.
All of these preceding events undeniably suggest that the real motive of January 07, 1979 event was for Vietnam to re-conquer Cambodia and reassert its control and domination in a preparation for the eventual creation of Indochina Federation state. The presence of millions of Vietnamese illegal settlers on Cambodian soil today strongly supports that argument.
If many Khmer people lives were saved from the KR systematic executions by the January 07 event, it was simply an unexpected or accidental coincidence. For that reason, Khmer people celebrate the January 07, 1979 event only as the end of the KR killing regime, but never as a recognition of the Vietnamese intervention.
As it happened with other events in history, Vietnam through its agents and sympathizers can present the event of Jan 07, 1979 in the way that fits its expansionist agenda, but it can never fool the understanding and gain the trust of the Khmer nation.
KHMER ACADEMY
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Do people in here know how to read? lol It seems like no one does seeing how the response comment just goes off completely different from what the two debating comments above suggest.
Learn to read what something means! lol
totally agreed with the article above! khmer people have to think about saving and protecting cambodia by using the rule of law, by becoming more educated and have the thirst and hunger for learning and improving situation and living standard and health, etc... in cambodia. also, adopt new way of thinking and see the world is good for cambodia as well. god bless cambodia.
what i think people in cambodia should realize is to never take anything for granted. everything comes and goes. it's not necessary to worship someone even if they save your life or whatever! otherwise, that can be ignorant and too naive. most khmer people are smarter than that! we can appreciate what others are doing for us, but life goes on too, you know! no need to repeat thanks many times; and actually, helping others could be a two-way street, too, you help me this in time of crisis and i will do the same the next time it's your turn in crisis. how i see it, cambodia and khmer people need a serious lesson in the code of ethics training or something. it is only the right things to do. just because someone held the door open for you, doesn't mean you have to go sleep with that person or give your daughter or son to that person, etc... it's called doing the right thing, and it need not be required in return. it's a personal will, you know! this is what some khmer who are still in the dark needs to be educated and understand. it fits with what we are talking about here. thank you.
this is where critical thinking is necessary. some people in cambodia should think logically before giving all your hard earned cash to youn for helping ousted the stupid, backward KR regime! wake up and be smarter, cambodia! there are other way we can give thanks, but selling or trading our lands and allowing vietcong to impose their identity on us is not one of them because khmer people would not allow or approve that! please be smarter and keep educating and learning. god bless cambodia.
Not only the viet invasion of cambodia a crime, but also it was an act of robbing cambodia's resources. The viets have been stealing khmer resources for years, shipping cambodia's valuable materials to its country. IN the early phase of the invasion, the viets blocked and cordoned phnom penh and prevented khmer people from reentering the city. at that time the viets remove all valuable resources from phnom penh and shipped them to vietnam by the truck loads. Those who think that the viets' invasion of cambodia was an act of humanitarian to save cambdia from khmer rouge have had themselves fooled by the viets' invasion scheme to occupy cambodia. Why would the viets want to interfer with the cambodia's internal affair? Think abou it for a moment. Then viets had no intention of leaving cambodia in the early 1990s; in fact, without the resistance forces (Funcinpec and other resistance fighters) who fought hun sen's and viets army, cambodia would have been a province of the vietname already. Unfortunately, after the consolidation of power between all factions of resistance forces--including hun sen's army in 1990s, hun sen fooled leaders of the resistance forces in an agreement to share power at which time cambodia had two priministers. Then the coup d'eta happened in 1997 and rannarid was ousted from pm position. Why did that happen? It's a tactic hun sen used to maintain his grip on power and he fooled these other resistance forces leaders. As a result cambodia is still under the communist-backed regime, and we all know that even though the viets withdrew from cambodia, they have have put their potatohead comrades to steer hun sen at their toward their will. Thus Hun sen is just a piece of pawns in the chess game that viet uses to strategically control cambodia. In short hun sen is a driver for the viet's communist agenda.
fuck the Viet and hell keep the fucking Goatface ah Ho Chi Minh motherfucker for ever for greate th KhmerRouge and star all the war and killing in Cambodia!
The motherfucker ah Youn Hanoi Vietnamese was robing us and killing us then turned around to preten to save us and ask to take our home too! want to be thanked?
The motherfucker ah Ho Chi Minh off spring should go to jail or HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Analogy with the biker stinks!
What if the biker paid the drunk driver in the car to hit you in the first place?
Just as the viet commies supplied and armed the khmer rouge for revolution. So your biker analogy stinks!
Vietnam is behind all of the killing and torture of khmer people througout cambodia...
www.khmer-heroes.blogspot.com/
Vietnam never save khmer from pol pot never!, it was vietnam invaded cambodia 1979.. wake up my people!
Dear all,
I woke up already, my compatriots..I woke up for nearly 30 years in this country when some of my relatives were killed by the so called "Resistance Forces against the VN occupation".
- Funcinpec fight against the VN?
- Molinaka Fight against the VN?
So why they came to my village and killed my relatives and other our countrymen? Were they the real resistant forces or robbers?
Man, I was so fucking sick to live and study the VN language in high school from 1979-1980s..I was fucking frustrating to see the fucking VN on the street of PP or everywhere...BUT where were you guys? huh?..You were supporting the groups that come and loot in the village?
I hate the fucking dummy Heng Samrin, Hun Sen,....but who else we can go to?..UN? USA? France?..or I should join the group that killed my relatives? Bandit Funcinpec in the forest?
Let me ask you guys, where have you guys been when the KR were in power?..What did you guy think when the KR were torturing us? Like I said many times, at that time, everyone prays if sb can take us away from this hell..Pls comes...I lost my two uncles and the rest of their family..
I didn't try to show gratitude to the fucking VN come to liberate us or something..but I try to tell you guys the consequent of the fucking invasion or liberation can save millions of Khmer life..OK?
Let me ask you who think Viet save your ass!
Who breed KR?
Who Trained KR?
Do you see Cham People who had been save by the Viet? Where is their country now?
Do you see Khmer Krom People! Are they have been save by the Viet?
What happen to their land?
When you say Viet save you, What happen to your Brain and dignity?
The Vietcong saved me that why I have the freedom to express my opinions?
First, If the Vietcong did save Cambodian people from the genocide and it is too late any way because million and million of Cambodian people had died and not only that the Vietcong team up with AH HUN SEN Vietcong slave to prolong the fucken civil war for another 10 years!
Second, if I can express my opinions because I live in a free democratic country not in Cambodia or Vietname!
Finally, It defy all logic that the Vietcong chose to save the Khmer in Kampuchea but the not the Khmer Krom in Vietnam and they hunt them down like animal!
7:16AM
Your frustration is just part of the achievement Vietcong planned to trap Cambodia.
Like one comment told you "are you going to be an actor in the play, or are you going to rewrite the play?".
I understood that the current play is designed by VN. KR and CPP are the two main actors which are under the control of VN.
What else I can release you from such very frustrated hell?
More than 70% of my relatives were died in the KR regime too.
Another myopic intelligent with clueless history.
Vietnam had planned the invasion long before KR border skirmish clashes.
Vietnam is not a savior. A looters is more appropriate. Take a look at our national treasure. Can you name one. That's right. NONE. It's because the looters had take them to Hanoi. Savior my ass. Ask our Khmer Krom brothers and sisters about Vietnam as a saviour. Baffoon!!
3:20 above is correct about his statement. History is what it is. Accept it or not, it is what it is. In the event when Vietnam invaded, topple the Khmer rouge, whatever you want to call it. They did stop the killings brought upon by our own people. We are now in a new history and world. No longer you can have another country invading a sovereign country. So the rule of law must apply. We, as in all Khmer everywhere need to use the rule of law to protect what is left of our country.
If you believe our government is not doing the right thing, then do something about it. Don't just sit behind the computer running your mouth thinking you are a Khmer Warrior who is going to save Cambodia from its enemies. Or even call others less of a Khmer person than you because he or she accept history for what it is.
Would you like to help shape Cambodia's future? Maybe you should work on that and maybe some fool in the future can blog about how you helped shape Cambodia and not how hateful you are towards Vietnam or Thailand. Because believe it or not, I will tell you something that you might know. They are your neighbors...Learn to have some kind of decent dialogue.
12:45PM
Do you know how to distinguish the different between thinking and doing?
Are you going to do without thinking or what?
All comments and debates in here is the thinking, the planning...though you are concerned during crossing here..
Do not blame on others, but your own leaders. Who created KR, and why it was easily created? Vietnam was just a historical opportunist. With good intention or not was not a big deal because Khmers were shamelessly killing and tearing each others apart.
Still speaking of the pass. Oh and what planning? Ridiculous!
Don't just blame the leader because all Khmer need to take pride of who we are and do more for Khmer. It is easy to blame some else, but if we individual don't participate to be part of a solution in rebuilding our country and waiting for other to lead, we can not blame no one else but ourself. Khmer is very patriotic and our ancestor left a legacy in Siem Reap as a living proof of that; therefore, we have to be strong and stay united to reclaim our dignity. There are a lot of educate new young generation of Khmer around the world these days including those living in Srok Khmer. We are in the driver seat of our country destiny and the future is in our hand.
To Viet Thieves: I want to clear a few things up with what you thieves have been doing all these times. You said that Khmers Killed Khmers, can you show it to me and the world,who have been killing Khmers Krom and Steal Their Land?
"your behavior never change We Call Thieves."
Why blame the victim?
Why blame the victim?
Why blame the victim?
Did the victims have a role to play in all of these unfortunate events? Of course not because Cambodia politic dictated by some foreign powers located 10 thousand miles away! Cambodian people are force to take side and to see each other as enemy!
Now that the war is over and dirt poor Cambodian people are still being use as a sideshow!
7:16 AM,
You did the right thing, but stop reacting to the congtroversy over the same certain sensitive subjects. Are Khmers racists? Are Vietnamese racist? or Should Khmers thank the Vietnamese for their invasion that spared lives? (under one chapter "Saved Khmers from Pol Pot"?)
Self regualte our free expression under these same subjects would attract more knives. If you don't the critics won't stop knifing you.
We are better off looking for new strategies to regulate our rights.
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