By Voranai Vanijaka
Bangkok Post
Remember hundreds of thuggish men armed with axes, machetes and other weapons attempting to take over Bangkok and succeeding in vandalising the Royal Cliff Beach Resort's convention centre in Pattaya?
Remember an angry mob trying to kidnap Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and sending Asean leaders scurrying away? Secretary-general to the PM Niphon Phromphan left with broken ribs?
Remember gas trucks planted in different areas in Bangkok - their explosions can wipe out entire city blocks?
Remember reports of two civilians supposedly gunned down by the red shirts; taunting and wielding of weapons, burning of buses and tyres?
Remember that one guy, who unzipped and urinated on the street, in an act of mocking defiance, in front of soldiers and all the cameras?
Remember - and this is by far my favourite - the two red-shirt women ranting and raving, running up to a group of men? One, a flabby woman perhaps in her forties, took off her shirt, revealing a black bra, in rage, posturing and taunting the men? While the other one simply jumped on a man and attacked him?
Images on TV. What went through your mind while watching? Many thoughts, no doubt. Though I would venture that most of our thoughts more or less came to the same conclusion. Which was: "Holy crap! Somebody better do something! Call in the marines! Where's spider-man?! These thugs are going nuts! Wait a sec! Are they gonna come after me next?" Chaos, anarchy, the absence of law - scary stuff.
That, fellow citizens, residents, illegals and everyone else, is why Thaksin Shinawatra and the red shirts failed in their uprising. He wanted, needed popular backing. But instead of inspiring and rallying, the red shirts scared the pah khao ma (traditional sarong), the Gucci pants and fisherman's pants off the poor, the rich and the farang respectively alike.
TV images of thugs running amok all over the city is too unsavoury. It turned public opinion against him. Not all, of course. But enough to lose the Songkran War for Thaksin.
Thaksin was banking on his popularity, sure of a mass uprising to support him and oust the Democrat-led coalition government, paving the way for his exoneration and return to power - that was the goal. It could have happened. I, for one, have always thought that Thaksin is the most popular man in Thailand. Well, next to singing sensations Golf & Mike, of course - we Thais have our priorities straight.
But alas, it wasn't meant to be.
You can blame it on poor generalship. Whoever is chief advisor to Thaksin should be fired. Hire me instead. I want a flat in London and a life-time supply of free chips at a Cambodian casino. I read Sun Tzu's Art of War once in elementary school, so I'm qualified!
Why did yellow succeed and red fail? Both started as peaceful demonstrations, then graduated to terrorism.
The PAD's "final solution" was taking the airport hostage. Sure, there were weapons, violence and deaths. But there was also organisation to the movement. Key leaders were always visible, leading the charge, keeping the mob under control. For the rest of us Thais, Suvarnabhumi is way over there - isolated, way, way, way over there. It was annoying. It was unfortunate. It was inconvenient. But it did not threaten people of their properties. It's not right outside our windows. Unless a trip was planned, it didn't directly touch us.
The UDD's "final solution", on the other hand, was to take over Bangkok. Oops. Who thought that one up? An armed mob running amok all over the city. Key leaders were nowhere in sight. Citizens were threatened and killed. Yup, that will win over public opinion alright. Their actions were way, way, way too near and menacing for comfort. People's revolution? Nope, mob rule.
Like in many cultures and societies, we Thais too prefer to bury our heads in a rice bowl - see no evil, hear no evil - as long as evil is a safe distance away. But this one was right in our faces, and no amount of mascara or skin-whitening cream could hide our terror. It's a matter of proximity, and we won't stand for it.
The red shirts came undone because of images on TV. No wonder they threatened the media with violence, for being so bias as to capture realities with cameras.
So here we are. PM Abhisit emerged from the Songkran War looking prettier than he usually does. People are quick to forgive his earlier misjudgment and indecisiveness. He recovered well enough. Through careful orchestration, and perhaps sheer luck, the military did not end up killing anyone - at least not that we know of at the moment. Many now call him a national hero for exercising the virtue of patience and taking control of the situation.
Thaksin, meanwhile, in reports from Dubai on Friday, has softened his stance and said he's willing to talk. Well, that's what he said.
Is it over? Of course not. Also on Friday, there was an attempted assassination on PAD leader Sondhi Limthongkul. Fortunately, if not miraculously, he survived a close range attack by gunmen with automatic weapons, who fired almost 100 rounds. Well, whatever Buddhist relic Sondhi was wearing, look for copies to become the hottest selling items in Thailand since Roti Boy. Anyway, this conflict might go underground and get even uglier.
Is it over? Of course not. This is beyond Thaksin, Sondhi, red or yellow. History has shown that, be it coup, murder, corruption, uprising, terrorism or whatever other evils the rich and powerful orchestrated - rarely, if at all, does anyone ever get punished. Rarely, if at all, does anyone ever get held responsible. So there will always continue to be coups, murders, corruption, uprisings, terrorism and others. Why not? Rarely, if at all, are there ever any repercussions.
Is it over? Of course not. This is beyond Thaksin, Sondhi, red or yellow. When disaster strikes due to the incompetence and ineptitude of officials, no one is ever fired or jailed. At worst, they get transferred to continue being incompetent in another government post. How that's for encouraging criminals into believing they stand a good chance of terrorising the country?
All these, of course, are mai pen rai. But don't post any inappropriate content on the internet, or the wrath will be upon you like white on jasmine rice! We Thais have our priorities straight.
Remember an angry mob trying to kidnap Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and sending Asean leaders scurrying away? Secretary-general to the PM Niphon Phromphan left with broken ribs?
Remember gas trucks planted in different areas in Bangkok - their explosions can wipe out entire city blocks?
Remember reports of two civilians supposedly gunned down by the red shirts; taunting and wielding of weapons, burning of buses and tyres?
Remember that one guy, who unzipped and urinated on the street, in an act of mocking defiance, in front of soldiers and all the cameras?
Remember - and this is by far my favourite - the two red-shirt women ranting and raving, running up to a group of men? One, a flabby woman perhaps in her forties, took off her shirt, revealing a black bra, in rage, posturing and taunting the men? While the other one simply jumped on a man and attacked him?
Images on TV. What went through your mind while watching? Many thoughts, no doubt. Though I would venture that most of our thoughts more or less came to the same conclusion. Which was: "Holy crap! Somebody better do something! Call in the marines! Where's spider-man?! These thugs are going nuts! Wait a sec! Are they gonna come after me next?" Chaos, anarchy, the absence of law - scary stuff.
That, fellow citizens, residents, illegals and everyone else, is why Thaksin Shinawatra and the red shirts failed in their uprising. He wanted, needed popular backing. But instead of inspiring and rallying, the red shirts scared the pah khao ma (traditional sarong), the Gucci pants and fisherman's pants off the poor, the rich and the farang respectively alike.
TV images of thugs running amok all over the city is too unsavoury. It turned public opinion against him. Not all, of course. But enough to lose the Songkran War for Thaksin.
Thaksin was banking on his popularity, sure of a mass uprising to support him and oust the Democrat-led coalition government, paving the way for his exoneration and return to power - that was the goal. It could have happened. I, for one, have always thought that Thaksin is the most popular man in Thailand. Well, next to singing sensations Golf & Mike, of course - we Thais have our priorities straight.
But alas, it wasn't meant to be.
You can blame it on poor generalship. Whoever is chief advisor to Thaksin should be fired. Hire me instead. I want a flat in London and a life-time supply of free chips at a Cambodian casino. I read Sun Tzu's Art of War once in elementary school, so I'm qualified!
Why did yellow succeed and red fail? Both started as peaceful demonstrations, then graduated to terrorism.
The PAD's "final solution" was taking the airport hostage. Sure, there were weapons, violence and deaths. But there was also organisation to the movement. Key leaders were always visible, leading the charge, keeping the mob under control. For the rest of us Thais, Suvarnabhumi is way over there - isolated, way, way, way over there. It was annoying. It was unfortunate. It was inconvenient. But it did not threaten people of their properties. It's not right outside our windows. Unless a trip was planned, it didn't directly touch us.
The UDD's "final solution", on the other hand, was to take over Bangkok. Oops. Who thought that one up? An armed mob running amok all over the city. Key leaders were nowhere in sight. Citizens were threatened and killed. Yup, that will win over public opinion alright. Their actions were way, way, way too near and menacing for comfort. People's revolution? Nope, mob rule.
Like in many cultures and societies, we Thais too prefer to bury our heads in a rice bowl - see no evil, hear no evil - as long as evil is a safe distance away. But this one was right in our faces, and no amount of mascara or skin-whitening cream could hide our terror. It's a matter of proximity, and we won't stand for it.
The red shirts came undone because of images on TV. No wonder they threatened the media with violence, for being so bias as to capture realities with cameras.
So here we are. PM Abhisit emerged from the Songkran War looking prettier than he usually does. People are quick to forgive his earlier misjudgment and indecisiveness. He recovered well enough. Through careful orchestration, and perhaps sheer luck, the military did not end up killing anyone - at least not that we know of at the moment. Many now call him a national hero for exercising the virtue of patience and taking control of the situation.
Thaksin, meanwhile, in reports from Dubai on Friday, has softened his stance and said he's willing to talk. Well, that's what he said.
Is it over? Of course not. Also on Friday, there was an attempted assassination on PAD leader Sondhi Limthongkul. Fortunately, if not miraculously, he survived a close range attack by gunmen with automatic weapons, who fired almost 100 rounds. Well, whatever Buddhist relic Sondhi was wearing, look for copies to become the hottest selling items in Thailand since Roti Boy. Anyway, this conflict might go underground and get even uglier.
Is it over? Of course not. This is beyond Thaksin, Sondhi, red or yellow. History has shown that, be it coup, murder, corruption, uprising, terrorism or whatever other evils the rich and powerful orchestrated - rarely, if at all, does anyone ever get punished. Rarely, if at all, does anyone ever get held responsible. So there will always continue to be coups, murders, corruption, uprisings, terrorism and others. Why not? Rarely, if at all, are there ever any repercussions.
Is it over? Of course not. This is beyond Thaksin, Sondhi, red or yellow. When disaster strikes due to the incompetence and ineptitude of officials, no one is ever fired or jailed. At worst, they get transferred to continue being incompetent in another government post. How that's for encouraging criminals into believing they stand a good chance of terrorising the country?
All these, of course, are mai pen rai. But don't post any inappropriate content on the internet, or the wrath will be upon you like white on jasmine rice! We Thais have our priorities straight.
22 comments:
Thailand is the 2nd corruption nation in the world. The Economy is run by Sino-Thais, Europeans and US, and the real Thais are living under the poverty. Thaksin became billionnaire but he helps the poor that's why the US is so afraid of losing Thailand to China.
Wrong or right is your opinion. The background of both group were different from the strategy. The yellow shirt activity was planing for a long time and the red shirt did not have a real organization.
To me Mr. Thaksin was elected by a democracy way as PM of Thailand and the yellow took the power by force.
Thais should sacrifice for thier real democracy, if they do not want to be ruled by the elite group.
KI, we come here to read cambodian related information. An article on thailand once in a blue moon for discussion is ok but continual streams of thai news is of no value . If i want news on thailand I will log on to the relevant sites.
5:56 PM
if you know more about Thais and Khmers, you would not have asked that questions.
5:56PM
I agree.
5:56pm &7:35pm
your ideas is good for yourselves.
But others don't want to read with other Web. and they all enjoy reading this Web.(KI).
So no question nor comment asked.
If you don't want to read, just don't go in for reading all these.
All articles on KI, I support 100%.
Didn't know so many thai lovers out there. Bunch of fags..
KI better weed out your readers and their comments. Looks like you attracted a lot slum dog khmer/thais
who are abusive and uneducated.probabably deportation candidates uncle sam doesn't want.
Hun Sen will send you guys to suck thai dicks.
Now, UDD leaders are running to meet with Taksin at Koh Kong to discuss about the plan to Destroy Thailand .. after Thaksin has made a political rally to UDD men on 8 April 2009 as follows:
"If I cannot live with comfort with the retruned assets after confistication, I will bring wraths to 63 Million of Thai people."
"If Abhisit refuses to return 76 billion Baht assets algon with otehr frozen assets to fill up my cofier, I'm going to burn Thailand into ash as I please. At least i can hire Hunsen to fire RPGs against Thai soldiers as I please "
This kidn of threat is nto much differetn from Bin Laden as well as the Hijackers who held Thai people as his hostage.
Note: The assets Thaksin has referred to consist of
1. 50 Billion Baht unaccounted assets even though he declated his asset that he has 25 billion Baht
2. 140 billion Baht asset frozen by British Government - whcih Tahksin and photjamarn trying to syphon to his secret accoutns in British Virgin Islands
3. 10-15 Billion Baht for inverstment in Manchester CIty
4. 20 Billion Baht assets Thaksin telling the foreign correspondents.
Note: 1 Baht = 100 Riel
10:47 PM,
The first post seems to be right.
About the corruption, Thailand is # 2 following Indonesia, and Cambodia is # 3.
Furtheremore Thailand is ruled by only the elite families like Sino-Thais, and the US and Europeans enjoy their investments.
About Thaksin helped the poor was also true.
thai and the huxen government are the same, they don't listen or follow the rule of laws. hunxen once lost the election but did not step down. let thai worry of their country and thaksin will be arrest soon then the protest will be solved. eeyore!
Nothing is wrong if Thaksin playing golf with Hun Sen and planning to have the head quarter in Cambodia to fight with Kingdom of Thai Land because it is the right of Cambodian to have ,the same thing with Thailand provided the camps to khmer refugee 30years ago ,this is just one Thai refugee Cambodian has no problems to take care him as the typical human being.
Nothing is wrong if Thaksin playing golf with Hun Sen and planning to have the head quarter in Cambodia to fight with Kingdom of Thai Land because it is the right of Cambodian to have ,the same thing with Thailand provided the camps to khmer refugee 30years ago ,this is just one Thai refugee Cambodian has no problems to take care him as the typical human being.
Thaksin has been one of the best Prime Minister of Thailand. He has rescued Thailand economy in the 1998 fall down. Indeed he hasn't made anything illegal according to the laws. But as a leader, he should lead a role model by paying some taxes for his profit of his businesses transaction. He may have done a bit of wrong doing by censuring all medias during his term as Prime Minister. He was legally elected. Therefore his removal was illegal and his warrant of arrest is a bit inhuman and will create a big problem for thailand and has destroyed Thailand immage of democracy system. Areak Prey
maybe the yellow shirts won because the stupid, inbred, murdering, blind thai king idiotically supported them with his stolen money? But the king is luckily nearly dead - if he hasn't died already - and Thaksin is busy smuggling weapons from Cambodia into his rural powerbases. Hopefully the thais will soon get what they deserve...
Om Areak Prey,
Have you read who're behind Thai Coup D'Etat?
You only heard from anti_Taksin Shinawat. Read an article wrote by Professor Giles Ji Ungpakorn.
Under the Title:
A Coup
For the Rich
Thailand’s political Crisis
Those rich and powerful are drug dealers, but Taksin fought against them, that's why the Coup d'Etat happened.
Thai Monarchy survives because of those elite rich and powerul support it.
A brief Chronology of History
Sukhotai period 1200s
Ayuttaya period 1350-1767
Bangkok period 1782-
Colonial domination of region starts 1800s
End of the Sakdina system and establishment of Absolute Monarchy 1870s
Also the establishment of Thailand as a Nation State with borders
Revolution by the Peoples Party overthrows Absolute Monarchy 1932
Power struggles among Royalists, the Left (Pridi Panomyong) and
Nationalists (Pibun-Songkram) 1930s/40s
Sarit coup leads to 16 years of military dictatorship 1957
Mass uprising against the military 1973
Bloody crack-down against the Left intensifies rural struggle by
Communists 1976
Collapse of the Communist Party and return to democracy mid 1980s
Military coup against Chartchai elected government 1991
Mass uprising against the military 1992
Resurgence of strikes and rural protests
Economic crisis and new Constitution 1997
Taksin’s Thai Rak Thai won first election 2001
Thai Rak Thai wages “war on drugs” and instigates massacre at Takbai
Thai Rak Thai also introduces universal health care scheme and village
funds
Thai Rak Thai’s second, and landslide, election victory 2005
Peoples Alliance for Democracy protests against Taksin early-mid 2006
Thai Rak Thai wins 16 million votes in April election which is boycotted by
the opposition 2006
19th September coup topples Taksin, 1997 Constitution destroyed 2006
Political and economic crises are like powerful storms. They
strip away false images and put people, institutions and movements
to severe tests. They expose the reality of society which is often
hidden in more normal times. The 19th September coup, which
destroyed Thai democracy and the 1997 Constitution, has exposed
the true nature of Thai liberalism and also the weaknesses of the
anti-Taksin movement called the “Peoples Alliance for Democracy”
(P.A.D.).
The major forces behind the 19th September coup were antidemocratic
groups in the military and civilian elite, disgruntled
business leaders and neo-liberal intellectuals and politicians. The coup
was also supported by the Monarchy. What all these groups have in
common is contempt and hatred for the poor. For them, “too much
democracy” gives “too much” power to the poor electorate and
encourages governments to “over-spend” on welfare. For them,
Thailand is divided between the “enlightened middle-classes who
understand democracy” and the “ignorant rural and urban poor”.
Chapter 1
The Taksin Crisis and the Coup
for the Rich
it would be happened that way so that Thak Shin and his supporters will not have chance to lead one more.
who know this event was allowed to happened...in order to punish Thank Shin not only from Siem itself but also from the international...
Oh man,
The hell your talking about 11:35am?
Dear 11:14AM,
I agree with you for your comment. His character is totally different from Hun Sen. How these two leaders can be a friend?
_Thaksin is a man of my respect for his determination to build up his country with good social development in the country side by helping the poor to have hope in their dayly lives.
_Hun Sen is totally different by only looking after his crooked friends and has destroyed all hope of all Cambodian people from far nad near.
Areak Prey
We're in the same boat...... Areak Prey. I am just flabbergast as to why would Thaksin choose to affiliate with a thug like Huynh Sen.
Maybe Thaksin's plan to have his neighboring country as a "safe" house? A close and quick get away....just in case?
Whatever it is....it's not a good image for Thaksin.
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