Click on CCHR's statement in Khmer to zoom in23 May 2009
Everyday.com.kh
Translated from Khmer by Socheata
The SRP was criticized by the Cambodian Center for Human Rights (CCHR) after the opposition party asked its party members who are commune councilors to take an oath prior to the 2009 council election last week. CCHR led by Ou Virak issued a statement on 22 May, one day after Hun Sen’s sharp attack against human rights group. In his criticism, Hun Sen said that human rights group did not say anything when the SRP asked its party members to take an oath. The CCHR statement condemned the SRP for pushing SRP councilors to take an oath prior to the 17 May 2009 council election. In its statement, CCHR pointed out the case of the oath taking conducted by SRP party members in Cheung Prey district, Kampong Cham province. The oath taking ceremony was conducted on top of a hill under the presence of two Buddhist monks, one “Achar” (MC), Buddhist nuns and SRP commune councilors. The oath statement included the following sentence: “We must be faithful to the people, to the SRP and we will not vote for any other party, otherwise, we will face cataclysm, as well as our family…”
40 comments:
This is the tactic learnt from CPP. SRP just a bit slow to follow. If they did so at the same time as CPP did, then that's fine.
Hun Xen was right to attack the stupid.
Kuoy Pichet (Mrs)
What's wrong to have a Constitution Party?
I don't se anything wrong fr SRP to have its own Constitution Party?
Cambodians are mostly stupid including the critics in here.
Including Mrs Koy Pichet who is also stupid right?
No I meant the critics like the fat pig Ou Virak of CCHR.
There is nothing wrong for each member of the party to take an oath/declaration. It is perfectly alright for the party such as SRP to have its own Constitution.
Ou Virak is not an intelligent guy to understand what is the Constitution Party of SRP.
Those members are Khmer nationalists and they are willing to accept the Constitution Party it is up to them. Hun Sen and his fellowers are just thugs with thousand machine guns who can say and do whatever they want and they see no evil in themselves.
The Constitution Party was done long time in the US.
we can see how SRP is vulnerable to retain its image as clean and democratic party. Win Win policy of CPP is really working well. For the past 15 years, threatening and killing were used to weakening the opposition, and from 2008 election onward, money and positions in government have been working pretty good.
Hey 2:22 PM
Do you know what "Koy Pichet" actually mean in reverse?
I think you got burned by this trick from this person. LOL!
Ou Virak should provide more details about the human rights violation because of a political party has used swearing mechanism to maintain or operate membership in their party.
In America, when you want to become a member of political party, you have to follow all their party's regulations including swearing in front of their leaders/local leaders/priests etc.
CPP has used this tactic before, did Ou Virak wrote a complaint like this too? SRP also has its own internal regulations.
However, SRP must consider twice about the consequences that should happen when it will carry out some membership mechanism. In case of this swearing ritual, might not be wrong.
But the previous expelling of misbehavior council members or because they have already accepted bribes from CPP, would be not appropriate for the policy of "gathering manpower for future SRP". They should be moved to another position or lower down position rather than expelling like this. SRP might be lacking an tangible policy to glue and gear its membership.
KY
No, I won't support for anything like this. I have sworn once in 1967 to be loyalty to Sihanouk at my high School. The Authority has mixed gun powders in the water for everyone to drink. But it was Sihanouk who was a traitor and it was not me. Therefore I felt it was wrong to be loyalty to him. I think it is also undemocratic to force member to swear loyalty to their leader and their party. What happen if the party leader has disloyalt to them, and then what effect to this swearing? I support Mr Ou Vireak for his action. We must promote for clean and good democratic. I won't support for any fake one. I will taught my member to take CPP moneys but won't vote for them. Areak Prey
I am glad to read much idea from other people...
phumthmey:
You're fucking dirty just like the rest of all Puok Ah Jruot Jruot Cambodian-American'ts, fucker.
PPU
Human Right Party or Cambodian Center for Human Rights. For someone, who has not well educational background, am still confusing, which one is the right one for Cambodia. Understandable, Human Right activity can be an organization but not a Party.
What's the matter with Sam Rainsy? Samrainsyparty is supposed to be a democratic party not a dictatorial
party. Pushisng his ccommune concilors to take an oath with his party doesn't sound democratic.
I wish people in this forum use better words to refer to each other and keep the words like "Pou Ah..." for the Prime Minister to use because he is "Sopheap Boros Neak Leng".
Anti-PPU
Policy and internal regulartions of the that party that the party's members must follow. If any members doesn't like it policy platform, he/she
can leave the party.
Have Ou Virak knew that the CPP used to get ordinary people to swear in with bullet in the glass water in previous election to vote for the CPP ?
to human right
i think, i do not think SRP do anything wrong. for example every houses have their own rule, to order their member to follow these rule if the house without rule none ot the house member are listent to each other." rule i mean something that can't be force to do. i do not think SRP do anything wrong if someone who want to joint them and this is the rule if they except it they could joint his party. if they do not except these rule they could move on with someone else. i think human right is explain the wrong rule.
Ah Sam Rainsy is the biggest hypocrite, someone should get rid of this rabies infested french dog
HYPOCRITE! Ah rainsy only knows how to tell lies to the Cambodian ppl.
Who cares about these leaders! Do you know only our families have suffered from these leaders. This is not new. Study the history of Cambodia.
You may support a certain leadr, but do not allowed yourself to be brainwashed.
Be yourself, love your family and use your honest judgement.
Try not to believe that you are the only person who is right all the times because there is no such thing like that.
me no understanding this article.
PPU (Pumping Poum University)
9:25 PM,9:27 PM
Ah Hun Sen is a killer, he kill every innocen people and sale all khmer land to youn, china. now he sale about 365 hecta to china if china are live close like thai and youn. cambodia is bye bye another 365 hecta.
For the old generation like Ta Areak Prey, who lived through a few regimes are still clueless about the nation's security was at risk since French colony in Cambodia Laos and Vietnam.
The fact was: his generation many contributed to own self destructive tendencies. His generation didn't understand that
Khmers can't cross the bridge when the Vietnamese were already invaded inside Cambodia; and hold hands with the devil was not avoidable. King Sihanouk's a wise and intelligent man. We survived instead of the whole country're wiped out by the foreigners.
Talkibg about Rainsy. Does he abuse the members of his party?
No, he does not.
I am the well wisher to this new plateform of Rainsy's party or the Conservative party of Rainsy, and Hun Sen can argue all he wants, it's up to individual's right to choose to join the party.
Why is Hun Sen monkeying around and criticising his conservative's opponent?
I don't know who is a chief of CCHR, but certainly he has erred and misconstrued Rainsy's conservative plateform.
For the old generation like Ta Areak Prey, who lived through a few regimes are still clueless about the nation's security was at risk since French colony in Cambodia Laos and Vietnam.
The fact was: his generation many contributed to own self destructive tendencies. His generation didn't understand that
Khmers can't cross the bridge when the Vietnamese were already invaded inside Cambodia; and hold hands with the devil was not avoidable. King Sihanouk's a wise and intelligent man. We survived instead of the whole country're wiped out by the foreigners.
Talking about Rainsy. Does he abuse the members of his party?
No, he does not.
I am the well wisher to this new plateform of Rainsy's party or the Conservative party of Rainsy, and Hun Sen can argue all he wants, it's up to individual's right to choose to join the party.
Why is Hun Sen monkeying around and criticising his conservative's opponent?
I don't know who is a chief of CCHR, but certainly he has erred and misconstrued Rainsy's conservative plateform.
Hey, PPU, shut up and listen for a change, you knucklehead! Do mae mey cong cho!
Dear Poster 12:36AM,
I am very gladed to fear you arguing that I have no clue about National security at present. I have to tell you that I am more than worry about this national security and National existance. The problem in here is about advocating for a new good political party and a good and strong leadership. If we don't like CPP policy, we have to make sure we won't support another political party which will be the same like that CPP party again. Our main concern is about;
-human right.
-Freedom of choice
-Freedom of speech
-National security
To enforce members to swear for loyalty is totally wrong and is human right. As I said before, I have sworn during sihanouk regime, and it was Sihanouk who was a traitor and it was not me. Therefore, can I ask you what should I do? I couldn't follow him to destroy my own Nation by open the green light for the Vietcong to attack Cambodia and Cambodian at all. Sihanouk was the main reason to alloW Vietnamese invasion into Cambodia. He changed side very quickly. It was him to allow Hun Sen to have private bodyguards to intimidate others. If he was good he should have invited UNTAC to stay longer to dismanthe Hun Sen bodyguards and to amkE SURE NO vIETNAMESE IN cAMBODIA and to re-organise National army, National police and make Cambodia into a country with law and order. We are here to promote good governance and good political party and not to promote personal power at all. Areak Prey
Correction
I am very gladed to hear you instead of I am gladed to fear you.
what is "gladed?"
Areak Prey,
yes event president of united States or may be all over the world before they became a president they have to sworn, just only take an example of US i think this is a rule for any party they need to sworn, they do not force any one to take this job if you do, you need follow their rule, i do not see anythings wrong here.
Hello poster 5:53AM,
You have got wrong impression between swearing as a leader and swearing to loyalt someone. If SRP ask all their elected members to swear to loyalt to the people and the country. That is very rightfull. But for those who are not elected and are going vote for someone, that is wrong. You have denied their freedom of choice and freedom of expression. There are also different meaning of swearing between european and Cambodian.
The European swearing is to declare that they have full commitment to do for the interest of the people for what they have promised. But for Cambodian swearing, is to allow God or the Sky to punish them if they have changed their mind. It has not only upset one person but for the whole family.
We need good role model of leadership and not a leadership who has enforced others to follow him without knowing his future agenda. Good role model leader will have good followers. Bad leader will have bad followers. We all hate CPP policy. Therefore we shouldn't repeat their bad paths Areak Prey
អាអំបែងក្បឿងណាសរសេរខ្មែរនេះ......
ខ្ញុំសុំខ្មាសហើយលោកអើយ!!!!
ថា សីហនុ ចុះមឹនចេះសរសេរខ្មែរ ឯអស់លោករាល់
គ្នាឯងមឹនទាន់បានធ្វើស្ដេចផងក៏ភ្លេចអក្សរខ្មែរអស់
ទៅហើយឬ???
You freaking SRP staff there must learn how to write Khmer if you want to get anywhere...Damn you all!!! You all are freaking me out now...
writing in Khmer or English is not a matter here. As all post in this blog are in English, so the comments in English are appropriate and also Khmer characters might not displayed properly in some computers at the moment. The most important is to make others understand what we mean. Ridiculously, the one who criticize other (8:01 AM), did not write Khmer correctly too.
8:06 AM,
you meant to say CCHR and not SRP staff member, right? Because the letter in Khmer there is that of the CCHR not SRP's...
10:00 AM,
Are you one of CCHR people? You cannot write English and you cannot write Khmer either. What are you good at?
I hope people must understand that international officials have visite this site very often to learn Cambodia behavious and to learn Cambodia information from differents sources. I have given this site to many government ministers of my country and to chinese officials to know what happening to Cambodia. Therefore, I hope that Cambodian people should learn to behave very well to prove that we all have an history of 2000 years of civilisation. Many of us wouldn't want them to call us a race of barbarian at all. But through our recent history from 1970-now, many of our leaders have proved that they were truely barbaric. They killed their own people without any mercy. Recently, a lot of photos showing Hun Sen police kicking monks and people from their home lands for their own interest to sell those lands. They were all very barbaric. Areak Prey
It's great to read all the comments from Puok Ah Jkuot Jrouk Scum Rainsy's supporters.
What a bunch of fucking losers!
Pi Anh:PPU
11:18 AM
Who gives a "fuck." I don't think I'm going to lose any sleep over the civility, since Puok Jkuot Jruoks don't have any of those traits.
Yes, there's a great deal of "civility" that Puok Ah Jkuot Jruoks need to learn how to behave in a civil society.
Pi Anh: PPU
Areak Prey,
i still think you misslead yourself. i still see swearing between european and khmer are the samething. because only one purpose that you swear to serve a good interrest of people event those you swear to god and sky. you could alway change you mind because, if those swearing is not what you want. if you party can lie you why not you? for example as hun dog he tool poor he will do a good job for poor people plus he give $200 for them to vote for him, ask youself a question how these money came from. if you know the answer how all of those money came from so you could use you judgment to vote who ever you wish for . god will understand that, they lie to you why can you?
correction tool= told
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