Friday, June 26, 2009

Preah Vihear: little love lost among the ruins [-It's time for Thailand to stop its claim on Preah Vihear]

26/06/2009
By PIYAPORN WONGRUANG
Bangkok Post


If one were to ask, could the World Heritage Committee (WHC) consider a joint trans-boundary World Heritage Property status for the embattled Preah Vihear temple? The answer would be yes, it could.

The Preah Vihear temple: the border dispute between Cambodia and Thailand is making it almost impossible to maintain the ancient ruins as a proper World Heritage Site.

But the WHC did not do so last year. It considered Cambodia's solely prepared nomination proposal - which was re-adjusted to the point that any disputed areas with overlapping claims around the site were removed - and approved the temple as a new World Heritage Site.

As a result, not only has the new World Heritage architecture become devalued following its incomplete landscape, but Cambodia and Thailand have also been engaged in a growing border conflict ever since. Both sides no longer seem to trust each other.

The WHC itself cannot do anything to protect and preserve the site as it may have so wished, because it cannot conveniently access the site without each country's permission following the dispute.

Worse is the unnecessary loss of life and property following military clashes in the attempts by both countries to protect every inch of their so-called motherland from being claimed by the newly promoted World Heritage status of the temple or for its future development.

Since the 33rd meeting of the committee is being held in Spain, this should be a good time for all parties concerned to look into the possibility of resolving the dispute.

To nominate the Preah Vihear site again as a joint trans-boundary World Heritage property is not completely impossible, even after the temple itself without the parameters has been listed.

Unesco's headquarters in Paris once replied to the Bangkok Post that it still saw such a possibility when asked about its views following the military stand-off in the area.

The UN body said the existing World Heritage property - the temple - could be extended to include some new components (situated in part or fully in Thai territory) to become a joint trans-boundary World Heritage property.

This, it added, would make it easier to include the disputed area with overlapping claims within the extended property.

Another option would be for Thailand to nominate a new and separate property in its own territory.

But if this proposed site contained even a part of the area with overlapping claims, then the same set of problems that occurred during Cambodia's nomination of the temple would arise.

The joint trans-boundary nomination for the embattled temple, however, needs an evaluation by the International Council on Monuments and Sites (ICOMOS) and an approval from the WHC based on the established criteria for any inscription of sites on the World Heritage List.

In addition, mutual consent of both countries to nominate the extension of the temple will also be required.

These conditions will prove a challenge for all the parties concerned.

Thailand, for its part, should ask itself how serious or how ready it is to push for such a proposal until it becomes accomplished.

It often claims in public that it wants to see this outcome.

According to some technical experts who helped prepare reports to counter Cambodia's nomination in Canada last year, Thailand still lacks both a clear direction and goal regarding how it would want to proceed with this property.

Since Thailand lost its chance to jointly nominate the temple as a World Heritage Site last year, there has hardly been any concrete directive on what to do next. The team of experts has not been instructed whether they should develop the existing technical knowledge into a proposal for a separate nomination, or for a possible joint nomination.

Given this uncertainty, the chance is slim for Thailand to prepare for a joint nomination for the whole premise of Preah Vihear temple in time for the meeting in Spain.

Suwit Khunkitti, the minister of natural resources and environment who heads the Thai delegation, actually made it clear to the public that Thailand, in this meeting, would ask the WHC to review its approval of the listing of Preah Vihear as a World Heritage Site and ask concerned parties to help defuse the conflict. There has been no mention of what the country wishes to achieve instead, or the extent to which it has prepared itself for any particular goal.

According to an archaeological source who once worked on the issue, no archaeological experts will accompany Mr Suwit's team, unlike at the two meetings before. What this means is that Thailand just wants to have its voice heard on the issue at the meeting and nothing more.

If Thailand really wants to see the joint nomination happen, it needs to be more assertive than it is now. It cannot continue to pay lip service to the idea.

And for the other parties involved in the conflict - be they Cambodia or the WHC - they need to give support to the proposal if they want to seek a way to defuse the border tension and conflict.

The WHC, in particular, should no longer keep a distance from the subject with the excuse that it is not in its power to intervene in the nomination and the listing process.

There are still several questions which the WHC needs to clarify in public. These include how it will get Cambodia to complete the requirements made after the temple was listed last year, which include convening an international coordinating committee for safeguarding and developing the property, under which Thailand is supposed to be invited, as well as providing new maps to locate where the required buffer zones are.

Some Unesco staffers were recently reported to have visited the site. This visit needs to be clarified, especially in light of whether they were providing help to Cambodia to meet the requirements.

It is the time for the World Heritage Committee to prove whether it can help nations uphold the spirit of humanity in regard to historical properties, or whether the lofty mission is just a wish.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Mr PIYAPORN WONGRUANG and the Bangkok Post…….I just don't get you weird Thai people. First of all answer this damn question, is Preah Vihear Cambodia's property or Thai's property? How could you talk of a joint proposal to enlist PH with Cambodia when PH is Cambodia's? You Thai people have lost the plot here……..some thing must have fucked up your logic and common sense. You are just a confused nation that's all I can say.

Anonymous said...

If you, Siam, dares to ask the UN body (unisco) to defuse the tension, why don't they ask the right competent UN body i.e. International Court of Justice to decide the boder? It is nothing to do with the temple. Your bullshit idea of Bangkok Post...

Khmer innocent said...

Fucking idiot PIYAPORN WONGRUANG, the tension is not caused by the inscription of Cambodia's historical temple - Prasath Preah Vihear in the World Heritage List.

But the main reason is because of the greediness of shameless siamese bandits who want to illegally steal it from the rightful and lawfull owner - Cambodia.

Stop dreaming and wake up idiot.

Anonymous said...

bangkok post or bangcook post. you should take khmer picture off from the web site. you write so fucking stupid to khmer people. all you thais or siams people are liar. you lies to you own history, you taken everything from khmer people claim to your own and you put khmer picture on your web site, this is stupid. am not coming to this web site again. FUCK YOU BANKOK POST and HAA PIYAPORN WONGRUANG.....

Anonymous said...

You Siam fucker!!! you should teach your PM and Lt Gm Crazy Anupong to stop wishing or thinking to get Preah Vihear, you wish just ask the Wolrd Internation court to do it not only Unesco! fuck Ambibol Abdul yadeth

Anonymous said...

Thailand King and his servant are illiteracy cos they don't what is right or wrong ! They just want Khmer's preah vihear, King and PM Abhesip go back to school to study about Cambodian History and culture ! How old is your country up to now and How old is Preah Vihear ! You Siam fucker steal all khmer statue and other ancient stataue now u want Khmer temple ! One day your country will be the damp of blood !

Anonymous said...

Hi Khmer people, You guys should know that the current Thai King is a criminal. He killed his older brother and took the crown as Thailand King until now. Most Thai people knew it but they pretended that he killed his brother by accident and whoever dares to talk about this issue will be killed in Thailand. So, Thai King dared to kill his brother why he afraid or ashamed to take Preach Vihear temple?? As a criminal, he won't care about the rule of law ot international law at all.

God bless our Preach Vihear temple and damn to a greedy Siem's theft.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. Abhisit,

It is ridiculous that such in the powerful position as the PM of a country, you dare to try to claim a share of ownership with Cambodia on Preah Vihear. Please answer these questions, Mr. Abhisit:

1. Does Preah Vihear belong to Thailand?
2. Who has the rights to register Preah Vihear as the world heritage?
3. Did the UNESCO NOT know anything about who is the owner oh Preah Vihear?
4. How many state members voted for Preah Vihear Registration and stated this world heritage in the territory of Cambodia?
5. Do you think the UNESCO did not have any thorough study on the site before deciding to register Preah Vihear as the world heritage?
6. Do you have a real degree from Oxford?
7. Have you ever had a mental problem?
8. How did you manage to become the PM of Thailand?

If registering Preah Vihear as the world heritage involves the regional peace and stability, why don't you cry for any other registered heritages such as Pyramids in Egypt, the Great Wall of China, or Taj Mahal in India? I advise you to do the following so that you can claim some more world heritages from other countries. You, Mr. Aphasit should send some troops to fight Egypt, China or India and cry out to UNESCO that the fighting breaks out and there is no peace in the region and the world, so you ask the UNSESCO to reconsider the registration of Pyramids, Great wall, and Taj Mahal. It could be possible you may get one for your country interest.

Oh My God! Mr. Abhisit.! Please go to school again.

These days, the sins Thais have committed for along time against the Cambodians have splashed back to all stupid Thais. These are Buddhist curses:

1. The stupid Thai leaders became greedily unaware of the international laws and agreements/MOU
2. Tsunami has hit this Country.
3. In the southern part of Thailand the Muslim people stand up for their freedom and independence.
4. Thailand is known only for sex industry esp. in Pattaya.
5. Thailand tries to be hostile with all neighbors such as Myanmar (badly treating Burmese ethnics), Laos (fierce fighting in the 1980s), Malaysia (alleging Malaysia for supporting the Muslim rebel, and Cambodia (trying to claim Cambodia-owned Preah Vihear)
6. The bloody hatred between the Yellow-shirt and the red shirt supports in the BKK.
7. The crazy yellow shirt demonstration leader (who said during the demonstration that occupying the international airport in BKKwas fun?!?...) became the Minister of FA.
9. The country leaders usually come to power through the coups or street demonstrations.
10. The country has the most cases of H1N1 (about more than 500) in ASEAN region.

Thailand claims as a Buddhist country but disregards the Buddha teaching: Avoiding cheating people, avoiding telling lies, avoiding greed, and showing sympathy…..

May Buddha bless Cambodia!
May Buddha help Thailand turn as humans!

Cambodia

Mr. Abhisit,

The greedier you are, the more dangers you will encounter. You remember, you were almost killed in a plane clash in Cambodia. That was why you delayed your trip for five hours back to your country. Your plane has a technical error!!

Another thing you must remember too is that about three or four weeks ago, your FA Minister Kasit was almost killed by a lightning strike in Koh Kong when he was trying to come to take the road to PP. Another Person who was almost shot dead in BKK a month ago was Sondhi who unusually shows unreasonable hatred to Cambodians. Take Care, Mr. Abhisit!!

HBO, Cambodia

Anonymous said...

=> 12:40 PM
Abosolutely, it's a confused nation because he as well as all Thai children are being taughted faked stories. Even some educated people (social critics) also critises the way Thais teach their children at schools.

Howeverm truth can't be hidded anymore!

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Anonymous said...

The Thais not only were taught to look down on its neighbors, but also to look down on its own people. The Red and Yellow shirt??

I believe if you lied and cheat, eventually the truth will come out, it's just a matter of time.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

To:

1:30PM
2:05PM
4:15PM
4:51PM

Great job!!! You have said and expressed yourself like what I want to say.

Keep it up with your opinion.

Anonymous said...

ហេ អា​ ភីភីយូ (PPU) អាឯងចង់បៀម ក្ដ ឪ អា
ឯងទេអាចុយម៉្រាយ???

ពីអញ ឪអាភីភីយូ (PPU)

Anonymous said...

I agree with your comments above! It's true, THAI KING had killed his brother for the crown, not by his own hand, but those idiot around him....the same thing like Preah Vihear! these idoit around the King and of course that bastard army chieft "AnuPong Paojida" this mother fucker is the one! the most fucken greedy and trouble maker, Preah Vihear problems because of him!

Anonymous said...

If Thailand don't do something with guy AnuPong Paojinda, the whole country will be doom....

Anonymous said...

God Angry!
There's too many sinners and too many gays, lesbians, the country full of sinners, repent and turns yourself to the Lord our God!



Thailand must repent...

Anonymous said...

Thailand must stop being greeds! that what thailand need to do!, otherwise Viet,Cambodia,Mayanmar will kick Thai fags and Thai lesbians behind always back to south china sea....got that?



AnuPong Paojinda must kills!

Anonymous said...

hello, stupid thailand, that's because unesco do not think like you and they only use the law, not emotional feeling like you guys! the entire world know preah vihear belongs to cambodia first and cambodia has the final saying, not thailand, ok! let get that clear first and stop bossing cambodia and unesco as if thailand is something important or something! in the eye of cambodia, unesco, the law and the world, thailand does not seem to understand the law and that preah vihear is not theirs. they wanted to steal it from cambodia; that is wrong and unacceptable, to say the least. if they want to share that bilateral benefit or whatever, thailand need to ask cambodia first, not the other way around! and if cambodia refuses, that's our rights as a sole and lawful owner as well. thailand must stop using this stupid bilateral shit because it blocks their view from seeing the fact, the reality that the preah vihear temple is cambodia's, not their. they are making illegal demand from cambodia. that is the actual problem here! they should ask cambodia to share first and if we say no, that's our rights. so stop going in circle like a dog chasing its own tail, hello! cambodia and unesco is not stupid like thailand, you know! cambodia is now thinking about building a concrete wall to separate our property from thailand, this way all visitors must come through our khmer side to visit preah vihear. we will not let them come from the siem side because it is too much problem and confusion for tourist and for us to let it happen! go home already!

Anonymous said...

fuck off ah thief siam, thief want to be the owner of the house do not let ah thief siam get more our land ah thief siam, thief all khmer culture, khmer history, khmer way of living ah thief and thick face, get out from our land.


ah thief siam, don't you know khmer hate ah thief siam or ah siam people