Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, pictured, has refused to back down after reopening a debate on the 11th century Preah Vihear temple on the Thai-Cambodia border which has provoked bloody clashes. (AFP/File/Kim Jae-Hwan)
Cambodian soldiers stand guard near the controversial Preah Vihear temple on the Cambodia-Thai border. Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has refused to back down after reopening a debate over the ancient temple which has provoked bloody clashes. (AFP/File/Tang Chhin Sothy)Sunday, June 21, 2009
BANGKOK (AFP) — Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has refused to back down after reopening a debate over an ancient temple on the disputed border with Cambodia which has provoked bloody clashes.
Bangkok this week asked world heritage body UNESCO to reconsider its decision to formally list the 11th century Preah Vihear temple in Cambodia, as ownership of land surrounding the ruins is still in dispute.
Cambodia on Saturday rebuked Thailand for raising the matter, saying that its soldiers would defend their land again if necessary following outbreaks of violence in the past year which have left seven dead.
But Abhisit -- who made a one-day visit to Cambodia last week in an attempt to push forward border talks -- said the UNESCO move itself was to blame for the tensions.
"We are concerned that the moves by UNESCO may speed up conflicts, tensions or a border clash," the Oxford-educated Abhisit said on his weekend television programme.
He said Thai deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban would soon travel to Cambodia to explain Thailand's position, but said that Bangkok still believed all border issues should be solved by peaceful measures.
Cambodia and Thailand have been at loggerheads over the land around the Preah Vihear temple for decades, but tensions spilled over into violence last July when the temple was granted UN World Heritage status.
Although the World Court ruled in 1962 that it belonged to Cambodia, the most accessible entrance to the ancient Khmer temple with its crumbling stone staircases and elegant carvings is in northeastern Thailand.
Soldiers from Cambodia and Thailand continue to patrol the area, with the last gunbattle in the temple area in April leaving three people dead.
Cambodian Foreign Minister Hor Namhong said in Phnom Penh on Saturday that his country "welcomes Thailand militarily, diplomatically, internationally or through peaceful negotiations."
"(But) it (border fighting) has happened twice... (so) if they want to send their troops to Cambodia a third time, we will welcome them too," he said.
The border between the two countries has never been fully demarcated, in part because it is littered with landmines left over from decades of war in Cambodia.
Bangkok this week asked world heritage body UNESCO to reconsider its decision to formally list the 11th century Preah Vihear temple in Cambodia, as ownership of land surrounding the ruins is still in dispute.
Cambodia on Saturday rebuked Thailand for raising the matter, saying that its soldiers would defend their land again if necessary following outbreaks of violence in the past year which have left seven dead.
But Abhisit -- who made a one-day visit to Cambodia last week in an attempt to push forward border talks -- said the UNESCO move itself was to blame for the tensions.
"We are concerned that the moves by UNESCO may speed up conflicts, tensions or a border clash," the Oxford-educated Abhisit said on his weekend television programme.
He said Thai deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban would soon travel to Cambodia to explain Thailand's position, but said that Bangkok still believed all border issues should be solved by peaceful measures.
Cambodia and Thailand have been at loggerheads over the land around the Preah Vihear temple for decades, but tensions spilled over into violence last July when the temple was granted UN World Heritage status.
Although the World Court ruled in 1962 that it belonged to Cambodia, the most accessible entrance to the ancient Khmer temple with its crumbling stone staircases and elegant carvings is in northeastern Thailand.
Soldiers from Cambodia and Thailand continue to patrol the area, with the last gunbattle in the temple area in April leaving three people dead.
Cambodian Foreign Minister Hor Namhong said in Phnom Penh on Saturday that his country "welcomes Thailand militarily, diplomatically, internationally or through peaceful negotiations."
"(But) it (border fighting) has happened twice... (so) if they want to send their troops to Cambodia a third time, we will welcome them too," he said.
The border between the two countries has never been fully demarcated, in part because it is littered with landmines left over from decades of war in Cambodia.
42 comments:
Both countries still have not yet realised the serverity from military conflict. There thus should be a battle to raise their awareness before sitting down for peaceful negotiation.
Thailand would not be silent, because it rely on its big brother USA to back them both politically and militarily.
Yes the only way for Thailand to keep quiet is to defeat clear the US influence form South East Asia.
4:06 PM
Yes you right. USA is Thailand's big brother. USA lost the war in Vietnam, because US politicians did not understand or never want to understand the Cambodia situation and Khmer people. Maybe American politicians compared us Khmer to the Indian Native people in Northern America, but we are not.
We Khmer will survive and will ready to fight for our country, without a big brother.
A siam you are crazy people, a thief, your nation is good only appearance, but inside are too bad, always imitate from other countries as yourself, and then show the public, all this tradition is yours,all the people in the world know already you are the thief, and prostituted girls, all the thai students are prostitution.
4:06pm, I wouldn't be bother to implicate this issue with the Yankee. Although they are both long term alliance, Yankee would never ever abandon the Khmer again, as they did in the early 60's. Now is in the new era, the Yankee would never walk away from the Prohok's soil, as long as the China, Russia and Vietnam exist in Cambodia.
That's the war between Siam and Khmer, (who is covertly supported by the Chinese, Russian and Vietnam). By seeing with naked eyes, in military terms, it is obviously Thai can easily defeat Cambodia at any times. The question to be asked is why Thai until now still buying times. Cambodia may have nothing to loose, but Thai would be enormously in many aspects, economically, politically, trading ...
Hor Nam Horng respond sounds very confident. So we are the Khmer happy to host our guest appropriately.
when it come to frontline, i see real khmer.
when it come to currupted high official, i see youns.
there need to be an uprising like iran. I am proud for the people of iran and thai where they have rights to protesting truely against their government.
the thai border issue is a good ground to devert also to the vietnam/cambodian border issue which is very quiet. so khmer people don't just get angry with thai.
youn is doing the same also, but very quietly and getting away with it. we need to bring the attention to cambodia as a whole and not just one side or one corner.
7:39 PM
Yea, ok. It takes some idiot posting online to tell us who is Khmer and who is youn lol. The only uprising you see is me beating your ass for trying to cause suffering to my people again, ah traitor. Cambodia is not a land suitable for revolution. Look at Pol Pot's revolution. That went pretty well, right? Idiot.
7:42 PM
Please cite an example of where Youn is encroaching on Khmer land like Thai today. Stop pulling facts out of your ass, dude. I have been to the border town of Ba Vet and we already have a big ass border post there. Show me show Vietnam can move those buildings lol. Viet has taken the land but that was before. Nowadays, i wouldn't worry about the Viet since we have good relation with them and we have built clean border demarcation with them.
It is the Thai side that need working. Our border with Thailand is unclean and the bastard is a cheeky tricky one. Also, at the Viet/Cam border, we have villagers living right there so anything happens, we would hear from them not like with the Siam/Cam where it is mostly mountains and jungle and no one lives on the borderline. That is why Thai can move border mark inside our land and no one can notice until the border patrol police spots them on their routine patrolling.
No wonder why Thais kept sending special commandos to the frontline. It seems that they have enough commandos to defeat Khmers. God and their ancestors will punish them. I stand with Khmers to defend our nations.
yes dear 4:06 ah Siam won't stop to claim our Preah Vihear Temple and the plate of land surounding at least we defeat them militarily, then order to withdraw its milatary to where they are before the Aug 15/2008 date before invasion day, otherwise these thieves keep perverse to ignore where our teritory is. Because they have selve beleive on their military supperiority compare to our.
6:52 I do agreed in the fact that US won't ever leave Prorhoke land but do not forget US don't want to support Khmer as much compare to Thailand US won't taking Khmer as aparnership to do the business, always under elbows Yuon and Siam, refered to the past generation. At this time one again US wanted Siam gaining more land better to deal business with, they don't thing what you and I thing to wory of losing teritory.
Yes Siam had more troops much better weapons, we have nothing to compare with but quality to use of weapons how much confident Siamese have? this is the question, Siam actually using Khmer loeu fight against us, these brothers some of them aware of current situation have been crept in their mind they are not suppose to fight against their big brothers(Kampuchea). Remember my word once the real conflict ocure these groups will waving with banner or drop off the guns walk aways number of them.
The conclusion is Ah Siam will get lesson they wanted and some of their militaries will also comited suicide order by their King koba one eye.
Down to Ah Siamese!!!!
Cambodian Town
Long Beach, Ca
You see brave Cambodian soldiers are ready to defense our motherland against Thai Bandits soldiers and theirs aggressive sick billionaires King.
New Phally
8:26, no amount of evidence can convinced those who already have their eyes covered and their ears stuff. Your trip to Bavet was a worthless one because you didn't go to learn anything but to enjoy your money.
Don't open your mouth and ask for evidence unless you are farmer and have to deal with not being able to till on your farms which you have been doing so for over 20 years because now the Viet authorities say you are farming your ancestor land on their land!
You operate just like Hun Sen, Sok An and 5 Hong on this issue of Khmer-Vietnam border, "what? Where is the border problem, I' haven't heard anything yet!" You heard nothing even if the border if at your front doorstep you still wouldn't see the evidence or hear the cries of the Khmer people.
Emotion, anger, ignorance are simply part of Khmer characteristic in this period of time.
Go ahead scholding the Thai and it won't do any good for Khmer.
Go ahead be angry at the Thai when Viet encroaching and annexing Khmer land and sea.
Go ahead playing Hun Sen/CPP game till you die.
Why you are so deeply in ignorance?
When do you wake up ?
Khmers and Siams are brothers and sisters who share the same cultures, and why allowing the stranger like Vietnamese to destroy our families apart though we broke up into two nations or different families?
Hun Sen is serving the same barbarian Youn and he is willing to shoot his own blood who live in many Provinces in Thailand.
I have never seen North Korean shot the S. Korean or never heard former West German shot the East German like Hun Sen will do to his own just to please the barbarian Youn?
Greedy will lost everything we have to Youn, the invaders.
Kaun Khmer euy chol neak khom thae raksa pongsavada daun tah touk keh deiy sraeh, meatophoum daen deiy neiy chun cheat Khmer, dael trouv taeh karpear daoy khlahan.
Beuhr satrouv chhlean pean chhean chol prom den, Khmer raob sen praha karpear aoy ban, beuhr yeung slabb touv daoy sechkdeiy khlahan, tuk chea louman kaun chao khang kraoy.
Yeung men bondaoy aoy slabb touv daoy khmean neiy, svaeng rok chaukchey deumbeiy cheat yeung.
Hey dumbest 12;31am.
go and fuck your TV sesame street instead of preaching stupid online. Don't you have any intelligent discussion to share instead of the same old shit?
12:31 AM had touched ah kantorp vietcong's nerves... heh, heh, heh, watch ah yietkong jumping and spouting his yietkong behavior... he, heh, heh...
12:44 AM got poke in his derriere...
Don't mind 12:31AM, Ah niss jkout jrook te!
Thailand still think that they can over-power khmer military that is why they don't back down one bit! i think at the end, Hun Sen properly agree with Thai request....this is gonna be fuck up man!
1:11 AM, did he poke your private real estate area, too?
No Way!! Khmer will fight to the death!! we will not losing our temple back...never!!!!
Remember Preah Vihear was one of the strongest reason Abhisit came to power. So if we expect that his cabinet will sit quietly about it. We couldn't be more wrong. Wake up. His government is no good. They rather drag this issue over and over rather than to FORGET ABOUT IT AND HAVE REAL PEACE AND ECOMOMIC GROWTH ON BOTH SIDES BY FOCUS ON SOMETHING ELSE. WATCH THE STOCK MARKET IN ASIA. IT WILL GO TO HELL AGAIN. IN THAT CASE: TO HELL WITH THAI'S ABISHIT AND THAI MONARCHY.
Folks,
During the meeting in Phnom Penh Hun Sen/Abishit properly agee with this issues already! they just playing games filp flop against us that's all....
Thailand brought those piece of stones for something..? huh?
Look at these Khmer soldiers face man! they don't fuck around, if Chor Siamese encroaching, they are ready to fire with this machine gun from CHINA!
That Machine gun is Heavy Machine gun from China, Yep! bring on your fucken Tanks Ah Thai-thieft mother fucker!! bring fags Thai King to the front line too....will shot his ass first bitch!
If thailand wanted to joints, all Prasat temples in Thailand must joints also, because Thai King never built them, Khmer King, Suriyavarman and Javarman had built them throughout southeast asia...Thai King only good in robbing and stealing from khmer empier that time!
We knew that the country is not lost but we lost land. Our country use to be big, now it is small.
Ah Thaihorng and Ah Vietcong ,every body want to live peacefully,you ought open the door for Laos so that they could have 100km seaside.And Khmer Empire is always khmer,we won't kill each other any more.
International Law,
May Emerald Buddha save all people.
The picture on the top educated ,born and raised with high degree from England it is going to be obvious to fight with Hun Sen third grade drop off but Abhi SHIT he must under estimate blind man Hun Sen, Hun Sen need viet every stroke of his breath Hun lose power hun death so what is HUN SEN must do ?
LET GUESS?
Please do not foul by Hun Sen government. Cambodia will not be destroyed by foreigners at all but would be destroyed by Cambodian themselve which we call Dangkov knong sach. Even we can fight with Thailand, but what is our point to fight with thais as Hun Sen government had given ten of thousands of ha of lands to Vietnam in Ratanakiri and Kg Thom? The push for a war with Thailand by Hun Sen is to kill Khmers people even faster. My opinion to save Cambodia is to change the Government. Why?
They have refused to refer all invasions from Thailand and from Vietnam to security council and they tried to shut opposition mouth. They keep their secrecies and make everyone in guessing. Areak Prey
Why in 2005 Your Khmer leadership and Khmer king rubber-stamped an illegal Additional Treaties to cede Khmer territories to Vietnam???
So Khmer leadership is supposed to cede Khmer territories especially around Prah Viharn to Thailand too.
As a signatoried country on 1991 Paris Peace Agreement, we did cease to obey that International Accord any more.
And Khmer leaders themselves had violated that International Accord first. Don't blame on us, Thais.
If Khmers want peace, just do that as you had given your lands to Vietnam, and you did not give to us too????
Thai citizen
Dear Mr. Abhisit,
It is ridiculous that such in the powerful position as the PM of a country, you dare to try to claim a share of ownership with Cambodia on Preah Vihear. Please answer these questions, Mr. Abhisit:
1. Does Preah Vihear belong to Thailand?
2. Who has the rights to register Preah Vihear as the world heritage?
3. Did the UNESCO NOT know anything about who is the owner oh Preah Vihear?
4. How many state members voted for Preah Vihear Registration and stated this world heritage in the territory of Cambodia?
5. Do you think the UNESCO did not have any thorough study on the site before deciding to register Preah Vihear as the world heritage?
6. Do you have a real degree from Oxford?
7. Have you ever had a mental problem?
8. How did you manage to become the PM of Thailand?
If registering Preah Vihear as the world heritage involves the regional peace and stability, why don't you cry for any other registered heritages such as Pyramids in Egypt, the Great Wall of China, or Taj Mahal in India? I advise you to do the following so that you can claim some more world heritages from other countries. You, Mr. Aphasit should send some troops to fight Egypt, China or India and cry out to UNESCO that the fighting breaks out and there is no peace in the region and the world, so you ask the UNSESCO to reconsider the registration of Pyramids, Great wall, and Taj Mahal. It could be possible you may get one for your country interest.
Oh My God! Mr. Abhisit.! Please go to school again.
These days, the sins Thais have committed for along time against the Cambodians have splashed back to all stupid Thais. These are Buddhist curses:
1. The stupid Thai leaders became greedily unaware of the international laws and agreements/MOU
2. Tsunami has hit this Country.
3. In the southern part of Thailand the Muslim people stand up for their freedom and independence.
4. Thailand is known only for sex industry esp. in Pattaya.
5. Thailand tries to be hostile with all neighbors such as Myanmar (badly treating Burmese ethnics), Laos (fierce fighting in the 1980s), Malaysia (alleging Malaysia for supporting the Muslim rebel, and Cambodia (trying to claim Cambodia-owned Preah Vihear)
6. The bloody hatred between the Yellow-shirt and the red shirt supports in the BKK.
7. The crazy yellow shirt demonstration leader (who said during the demonstration that occupying the international airport in BKKwas fun?!?...) became the Minister of FA.
9. The country leaders usually come to power through the coups or street demonstrations.
10. The country has the most cases of H1N1 (about more than 500) in ASEAN region.
Thailand claims as a Buddhist country but disregards the Buddha teaching: Avoiding cheating people, avoiding telling lies, avoiding greed, and showing sympathy…..
May Buddha bless Cambodia!
May Buddha help Thailand turn as humans!
Cambodia
Mr. Abhisit,
The greedier you are, the more dangers you will encounter. You remember, you were almost killed in a plane clash in Cambodia. That was why you delayed your trip for five hours back to your country. Your plane has a technical error!!
Another thing you must remember too is that about three or four weeks ago, your FA Minister Kasit was almost killed by a lightning strike in Koh Kong when he was trying to come to take the road to PP. Another Person who was almost shot dead in BKK a month ago was Sondhi who unusually shows unreasonable hatred to Cambodians. Take Care, Mr. Abhisit!!
HBO, Cambodia
Due to Cambodia-Thai military conflict, The Forth Indochina War will be stating soon. Cambodian may have a chance FREE themselves from Vietnamese Puppet government.
Cambodian will Thanks Thai as our
2nd Fathers, Mothers, Brothers and Sisters, rather thanks Vietnamese.
9:29pm, the question of whether US shake hand with Khmer or Thai can be answered easily. The point I am trying to make is that US will never walk off the Prahok soil again. It means that US would shake hand with HS rather than Thai, as the matter of geopolitics. Having said that US will empower its status quo in the race with China in particular. Once of recent examples was that Cambodia was just offered by the Obama's Govt the export concession to the US.
6:54 AM.
You aren't a Thai citizen but a Khmer who live at oversea, the anti_government and anti_Khmer monarchy. Thai citizen would not dare to address Kings or Queens in their own country nor address toward Cambodia Kings in such disgusting. Thais know the level of games if they do, then the attackers would harrass their billionnaire $$ King as a robber.
You need to shut up or go and fuck your TV and stop poking your azz cursing Khmer Kings.
Look at the face of shame above in the face of international community. Shame, shame, shame... I am so embarrassed by the action!
Dear Mr. Abhisit,
Please do not so greedy over the Preah Vihear Temple because it has its own mighty power that can destroy your country and yourself.
You make so much suffering to the Cambodians since 1970 up to now: killing khmers, threw the refugees (more than 20,000) from Preah Vihear border in June 1979 which led to many of them died along the road from Preah Vihear to Kampong Thom by stepping on land mines, famine, lack of sanitary water..., shooting the workers crossing the border to help your farmers in their heavy work and shoot them not give them any money or taking all their money and belongings...,
We are remembering all these events.
Please remember that your country are developing through blood and tear of the Cambodians. Thais are looking down to the Khmers who were the builders of numerous temples inside Thailand. You are not aware of the fact and you are turning the real history up-side-down and fool your young generation to hate the Khmers who are the ancestors of the many Thais now. Even the Thai characters and letters and numbers are barowing from Khmers scripts.
Along these fact you must respect Khmers not to say right now that the motto cursing your sons or daughters by saying: Fuck You when you die your next life become the stupid Khmens.
Please Thais we are neighbourings we must build frienship and good cooperation and not to fight each others. We must settle our conflicts by peaceful means. But we Khmers are ready to accept your decision to talk peacefully or to go to international court or to go to war.
Thank you for kind consideration over the issues again and again.
Buddha Bless Cambodia and Khmers.
Abishit used Prah Vihear before to move to the gov't office; now he is trying to use Prah Vihear again to divert attention of his people for his political reasons. I hope UNESCO AND WORLD WILL STAND FIRM ON PRAH VIHEAR ISSUE. THAILAND IS CLEARLY A TROUBLE MAKER NEIGHBOR. THEY ARE NOT INTEREST IN PEACEFUL COEXISTENT...
They don't want to live in peace with Khmer, so, they asking for war! well, give them one! so they can remembered the rest of their life...
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