Sim KaThe Khmer Rouge Trial: Six government officials were subpoenaed. Who is Sim Ka?
Thursday, October 15, 2009
Op-Ed by Baphuon
Originally posted online
Hanoi official must be subpoenaed by the ECCC for genocide against Cambodian people.
October 8, 2009, the Honorable Marcel Lemonde, Co-prosecutor (France) released to the public his subpoena that he has signed on September 25, 2009, to summon six government officials – Senate President Chea Sim, National Assembly President Heng Samrin, Foreign Minister Hor Namhong, Finance Minister Keat Chhon and two CPP senators Ouk Bunchhœun and Sim Ka – appear at the tribunal to provide testimony “in the framework of the investigation under way against Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary, Khieu Samphan and other leaders”.
Two hours after the public announcement of that Lemonde’s subpoena, Marcel Lemonde’s car parked at the ECCC parking lot under the surveillance of Hun Sen’s police have been sabotaged: all the two Lemonde’s car back tires were slashed. It is worth to remember that the same kind of car accidents was happened to Ratha Sourn, Chairman of CACJE and Pengsè Sean, the President of Cambodian Border Committee, the two famous opponents of Hun Sen regime. In Paris, indeed, all the four Péngsè Sean’s car tires were slashed several times; the wind shield was broken, and two times the car was burned down or stolen. In the US, Ratha’s car’s sabotaged. Robert Petit wife and daughter life was threatened.
It is interesting to examine the reaction of Hun Sen and his people to that subpoena of these six CPP officials by the ECCC as witnesses.
It seems suspicious about the timing, why Ieng Sary’s team lawyers release publicly their accusation of bias against Mr. Marcel Lemonde immediately after the release of Lemonde’s subpoena summoning six CPP officials to appear as witnesses for the case 02? Because their effort of disqualification of Lemonde, indeed, will help to protect those six CPP officials from the ECCC prosecution. What kind of alliance was there between Hun Sen and Ieng Sary and Vietnam?
Another crucial aspect of the ECCC (Khmer Rouge Trial) was that Hun Sen’s government tried at all cost to protect his protégés from the legal prosecution by the ECCC, such as the former King Sihanouk, Hun Sen himself, and especially Hanoi government officials who were probably the responsible of Cambodia genocide.
The truth is that most criminal defendants are, in fact, guilty. Prosecutors, therefore, generally have the ultimate truth on their side. But since prosecution witnesses often lies about some facts defense attorneys have intermediate truth on their side.
Since Hun Sen police lie, and evidence doctored by Hanoi, false documents, police planting evidence, police perjury and cover-up, the proof of “the defendant did it” will be turned out to prove the proof is beyond a reasonable doubt that “he did it”, instead.
Henceforth, and consequently, and finally, the ECCC must prove beyond a reasonable doubt the guilt of the defendants, or the “probable defendants” King Sihanouk, Hun Sen, Chea Sim, Heng Samrin, Hor Nam Hong, Keat Chhon, Nuon Chea, Khieu Samphan, Ieng Sary, Ieng Thirith, Kaing Kek Eav and scores of high ranking CPP officials (who were responsible of slaughtering more than 5000 people) and especially Hanoi officials for having perpetrated genocide crime against Cambodia people.
Hanoi officials must be subpoenaed by the ECCC for being the master mind of genocide against Cambodia people.
Because People Army of Vietnam (PAVN) had crushed Lon Nol Army in 1975, yet Hanoi was responsible of Cambodia genocide. Because Pol Pot’s government was appointed by PAVN. It was PAVN which defeated Lon Nol army but not the Khmer Rouge as Hanoi and Khmer Rouge propaganda wanted the world to believe.
What is undeniable is that in 1975 the Khmer Rouge Army had no armament and ammunitions and especially heavy weapons to defeat Lon Nol Army. The Vietnamese had always refused to transport through Ho Chi Minh trails armament and ammunitions for the Khmer Rouge. If they did it, it was done by piece meal, therefore not enough to crush an army.
Because Hanoi army had crushed Lon Nol Army, it was Hanoi Army which appointed Pol Pot government. Therefore, Hanoi had infiltrated in Pol Pot government as they pleased Vietnamese spies, and henchmen to sabotage Pol Pot government as he did right now with Hun Sen government. These Vietnamese henchmen, the Vietnamese cadres, and spies under Hanoi order by executing Hanoi order were the real responsible of genocide against Cambodia people.
Because of police perjury, of manipulated documents, the ECCC must prove beyond a reasonable doubt the guilt of Hanoi, in other words, the genocide committed by Hanoi against Cambodian people. Pol Pot government was their compli cit in genocide crime.
Alan M Desershowitz, a Harvard Law professor, describes so well this point.
Among the six summoned CPP members, who is hierarchically the most powerful? What is their hierarchy?
The communist regime, such as the Republic Socialist of Vietnam, and its puppet CPP took very important political decisions in secret out of public sight.
Several years ago, in the early 1990s, in Cambodia Embassy at Saigon it was the female cook who was the most powerful member of the Embassy. She was more powerful than the appointed Ambassador.
The most powerful CPP committee is the CPP standing political committee, known as Koor-85. This CPP political committee is the eye and the ear of Hanoi. Koor-85 had left no trace in any CPP publication or public discussion. The ten Koor-85 members are very powerful. It was they who decided everything under Hanoi thumb. They meet together at Hanoi call. Their meeting place had never been in Phnom Penh. Hun Sen is not Koor-85 member. He was just an alternate as Mme Men Sam An. The Koor-85 met always at Chhlong (Kratié province) under a big tree in a revolutionary atmosphere; there was no table; they met around a camp fire under Hanoi officer’s leadership who spoke fluently Cambodian. Then Hanoi officers distributed paper for each member and let them read it very carefully for thirty minutes and asked each one if they understood well the Hanoi order spelled out in the paper. Then the ten members were ordered to execute that Hanoi order. Then they threw that order paper to the fire leaving no written trace of that order. That is always the way the CPP execute Hanoi order to run Cambodia at Hanoi will.
The ten Koor-85 members are in hierarchy descending order: 1. Mat Ly (Muslim, deceased); 2. Sim Ka; 3. Kan Man; 4. Nay Péna; 5. Chea Soth; 6. Say Chhum; 7. Bou Thang (ethnic minority); 8. Say Bou Thang (ethnic minority); 9. Heng Samrin; 10. Chea Sim.
Alternate members: Hun Sen, Men San An.
This political committee was appointed in 1978 when General Lê Duch Anh led his 200,000 soldiers to invade and occupy until today Cambodia in 1978. And Duc Van Anh, the Vietnamese communist Politburo member appointed the Koo-85, the Cambodian Political Standing Committee of ten members since then to run Cambodia under Hanoi thumb.
Under the food chain, Sim Ka must be the very responsible of Cambodia genocide.
Those who believe that O.J. Simpson did murder Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman must acknowledge they were not there when the crime occurred or when the evidence was collected and tested. They must rely on the work and the word of people they do not know. So the jurors in O.J. Simpson case were not asked to vote on whether they believed “he did it.” They were asked whether the prosecution’s evidence proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it.
The perception was that the police in communist regime, Republic Socialist of Vietnam and Kingdom of Cambodia often make false arrest, tamper with evidence, evidence planting, false testimony, and faking documents and cover-up and commit perjury.
Hence, there are so many police lie, Hun Sen police lie, and Vietnamese police lie. Therefore, the ECCC cannot base her verdict on these faking documents and faking testimony, and planting evidence and cover-up and perjury.
FOUR KEY POINTS:
Before we go further, the ECCC must inquiry the very simple following key points:
1. YES or NO, are the documents that will be used by the ECCC as basic for the verdict are authentic or not? The ECCC must authenticate first the DC-CAM documents which are the bulk Khmer Rouge documents.
We raise this very crucial question because we have a dozen of witnesses, living abroad and in Cambodia who can prove that DC-CAM documents are bogus. These witnesses had worked for the Vietnamese Security experts to fabricate and manipulate several dozen thousands of documents which would become later DC-CAM/Toul Sleng official documents. Certain technical aspects of the falsification of these Toul Sleng/DC-Cam documents can be proved also by lab, such FBI lab or French, British, German, Japan or Chinese lab. So, first of all, the ECCC must prove the authenticity of these documents by for example the FBI lab.
Suppose for the moment that if it is true that the DC-CAM documents were bogus it will imply that all the books, all the documents and all the scholar researches that were based on these fake documents will produce at the end a false conclusion. The ECCC cannot trust the opinion of these experts because their scholar researches were manipulated by Hanoi directly or indirectly.
2. YES or NO, the Khmer Rouge army did not defeat Lon Nol Army? It was instead the People Army of Vietnam which crushed Lon Nol Army.
If YES, it was Hanoi which appointed Pol Pot government. We saw already what Hanoi have done with Hun Sen government, his Hanoi puppet government. So what Hanoi can do with Hun Sen’ s government Hanoi can do the same way with Pol Pot government. It results that Hanoi was also responsible of Cambodia genocide as was Pol Pot government.
So Hanoi officials must be summoned to the ECCC as defendants.
3. More than one million Cambodian people were killed during 1975-79 in East zone controlled by Heng Samrin, Chea Sim, Hun Sen and Hanoi after the assassination of the East zone commander So Phim by Heng Samrin and Chea Sim. Entire villages were slaughtered and let die of starvation and exhaustion. Hundred of So Phim battalion commanders, living in Cambodia and abroad, still alive, will volunteer to testify the slaughtering of one million people by Heng Samrin, Chea Sim and Hanoi at the ECCC if some security conditions are met.
4. As a rule of thumb, former Khmer Rouge who had participated to the extermination of more than five thousand people were appointed as high ranking officer in Hun Sen government. They changed their names several times. But family victims knew them well. Score of these genocide perpetrators are still in Hun Sen government. The ECCC must build their case of these people. Sixty-four years after the holocaust, the Jews continued to hunt down the genocide perpetrators of Jew people.
Baphuon
baphuon@aol.com
Thursday, October 15, 2009
Op-Ed by Baphuon
Originally posted online
Hanoi official must be subpoenaed by the ECCC for genocide against Cambodian people.
October 8, 2009, the Honorable Marcel Lemonde, Co-prosecutor (France) released to the public his subpoena that he has signed on September 25, 2009, to summon six government officials – Senate President Chea Sim, National Assembly President Heng Samrin, Foreign Minister Hor Namhong, Finance Minister Keat Chhon and two CPP senators Ouk Bunchhœun and Sim Ka – appear at the tribunal to provide testimony “in the framework of the investigation under way against Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary, Khieu Samphan and other leaders”.
Two hours after the public announcement of that Lemonde’s subpoena, Marcel Lemonde’s car parked at the ECCC parking lot under the surveillance of Hun Sen’s police have been sabotaged: all the two Lemonde’s car back tires were slashed. It is worth to remember that the same kind of car accidents was happened to Ratha Sourn, Chairman of CACJE and Pengsè Sean, the President of Cambodian Border Committee, the two famous opponents of Hun Sen regime. In Paris, indeed, all the four Péngsè Sean’s car tires were slashed several times; the wind shield was broken, and two times the car was burned down or stolen. In the US, Ratha’s car’s sabotaged. Robert Petit wife and daughter life was threatened.
* * *
The objective of criminal trial is a search for truth. And in criminal trial the term “search for truth” was repeatedly invoked by both sides: the defense and prosecution. Each side claimed that they were searching for truth and the other side was deliberately obscuring it.It is interesting to examine the reaction of Hun Sen and his people to that subpoena of these six CPP officials by the ECCC as witnesses.
[Quote]Pack your bags
The Phnom Penh Post, 09 October, 2009.
A day earlier, government spokesman Khieu Kanharith said that though the individuals could appear in court voluntarily, the government’s position was that they should not give testimony. He said that foreign officials involved in the court could “pack their clothes and return home” if they were not satisfied with the decision. [End Quote]
[Quote] (AFP, Ocoter 9, 2009) PHNOM PENH — The lawyer for a former Khmer Rouge leader on Friday filed a demand that the French investigating judge be disqualified from Cambodia's UN-backed war crimes court for alleged bias.
Michael Karnavas, attorney for ex-Khmer Rouge foreign minister Ieng Sary, said the motion was based on allegations that Marcel Lemonde told subordinates to favour evidence showing suspects' guilt over evidence of their innocence. [End Quote]
[Quote]
Saturday, October 10, 2009
By Guy De Launey
BBC News, Phnom Penh
The defence team's claims are based on a sworn statement by a former member of the investigating judge's staff.
Wayne Bastin accused his boss, Mr. Lemonde, of instructing his team to concentrate on finding only incriminating evidence.
Under the rules of the tribunal, the investigating judges are supposed to be impartial - and should also seek out evidence which might exonerate defendants.
Mr. Bastin admitted that Ieng Sary's defence team had encouraged him to make the statement.
But he insisted that he had enjoyed a good working relationship with Judge Lemonde - and only came forward because he felt "morally and ethically" obliged.
Ieng Sary's lawyers said the investigating judge had "trampled over" the rights of their client.
The tribunal's pre-trial chamber will now rule on whether Mr. Lemonde should be disqualified.
It has already rejected two attempts to disqualify court officials on the grounds of bias. [End Quote]
* * *
It confirms again and again that Hun Sen’s government had no respect to the ECCC if the ECCC did not behave accordingly to Hun Sen’s whim.It seems suspicious about the timing, why Ieng Sary’s team lawyers release publicly their accusation of bias against Mr. Marcel Lemonde immediately after the release of Lemonde’s subpoena summoning six CPP officials to appear as witnesses for the case 02? Because their effort of disqualification of Lemonde, indeed, will help to protect those six CPP officials from the ECCC prosecution. What kind of alliance was there between Hun Sen and Ieng Sary and Vietnam?
Another crucial aspect of the ECCC (Khmer Rouge Trial) was that Hun Sen’s government tried at all cost to protect his protégés from the legal prosecution by the ECCC, such as the former King Sihanouk, Hun Sen himself, and especially Hanoi government officials who were probably the responsible of Cambodia genocide.
The truth is that most criminal defendants are, in fact, guilty. Prosecutors, therefore, generally have the ultimate truth on their side. But since prosecution witnesses often lies about some facts defense attorneys have intermediate truth on their side.
Since Hun Sen police lie, and evidence doctored by Hanoi, false documents, police planting evidence, police perjury and cover-up, the proof of “the defendant did it” will be turned out to prove the proof is beyond a reasonable doubt that “he did it”, instead.
Henceforth, and consequently, and finally, the ECCC must prove beyond a reasonable doubt the guilt of the defendants, or the “probable defendants” King Sihanouk, Hun Sen, Chea Sim, Heng Samrin, Hor Nam Hong, Keat Chhon, Nuon Chea, Khieu Samphan, Ieng Sary, Ieng Thirith, Kaing Kek Eav and scores of high ranking CPP officials (who were responsible of slaughtering more than 5000 people) and especially Hanoi officials for having perpetrated genocide crime against Cambodia people.
Hanoi officials must be subpoenaed by the ECCC for being the master mind of genocide against Cambodia people.
Because People Army of Vietnam (PAVN) had crushed Lon Nol Army in 1975, yet Hanoi was responsible of Cambodia genocide. Because Pol Pot’s government was appointed by PAVN. It was PAVN which defeated Lon Nol army but not the Khmer Rouge as Hanoi and Khmer Rouge propaganda wanted the world to believe.
What is undeniable is that in 1975 the Khmer Rouge Army had no armament and ammunitions and especially heavy weapons to defeat Lon Nol Army. The Vietnamese had always refused to transport through Ho Chi Minh trails armament and ammunitions for the Khmer Rouge. If they did it, it was done by piece meal, therefore not enough to crush an army.
Because Hanoi army had crushed Lon Nol Army, it was Hanoi Army which appointed Pol Pot government. Therefore, Hanoi had infiltrated in Pol Pot government as they pleased Vietnamese spies, and henchmen to sabotage Pol Pot government as he did right now with Hun Sen government. These Vietnamese henchmen, the Vietnamese cadres, and spies under Hanoi order by executing Hanoi order were the real responsible of genocide against Cambodia people.
Because of police perjury, of manipulated documents, the ECCC must prove beyond a reasonable doubt the guilt of Hanoi, in other words, the genocide committed by Hanoi against Cambodian people. Pol Pot government was their compli cit in genocide crime.
Alan M Desershowitz, a Harvard Law professor, describes so well this point.
[Quote]: To understand this multilayered process, and the complex role “truth” plays in it, it is important to know the difference between a criminal trial and other more single-minded searched for truth…The burden of proof in criminal case is “beyond a reasonable doubt.”
What is a criminal trial? And how does it differ from a historical or scientific inquiry? The goal of the historian and scientist, at least in theory, is the uncovering or the discovery of truth. The historian seeks to determine what actually happened in the recent or distant past by interviewing witnesses, examining documents and piecing together fragmentary records…
Although there are ethical limits on historical and scientific inquiry, the ultimate test of a given result in these disciplines is its truth or falsity…
Consider the following hypothetical situation. An evil scientific (or historian) beats or bribes some important truth out of a vulnerable source. That truth is then independently tested and confirmed. The evil scientific might be denied his Nobel Price for ethical reasons, but the truth he discovered is no less the truth because of the improper means he employed to arrive at it… But if a fraudulent experiment happened to produce a truth that could be replicated in a non-fraudulent experiment, that truth would ultimately become accepted.
Put another way, there are no “exclusionary rules" in history and science, as there in law…
Finally, all “truths” discovered by science or history are always subjects to reconsideration based on new evidence. There are no prohibitions against “double jeopardy”. Nor are there statutes of limitations. In sum, the historical and scientific is basically a search for objective truth.
The criminal trial is quite different in several important respects. Truth, although one important goal of the criminal trial, is not its only goal. .. The requirement is that guilt must be proved “beyond a reasonable doubt.” But that is inconsistent with the quest for objective truth, because it explicitly prefers one kind of truth to another.
The preferred truth is that the defendant did not do it, and we demand that the jurors err on the side of that truth, even in cases where it is probable that he did do it.
Justice John Harlan said in 1970 Supreme Court Winship decision that, “I view the requirement of proof beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal case as bottomed on a fundamental value that it is far worse to convict an innocent man than to let a guilty man go free .” As one early-nineteenth-century scholar explained, the maximum of the law … is that it is better than ninety-nine offenders shall escape than one innocent man be condemned.” More typically, the ratio is put at ten to one. [End quote]
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Recapitulation: So, on September 25, 2009, Marcel Lemonde (France), Co-prosecutor of the Extraordinary Chambers in the Court of Cambodia (ECCC) had summoned six government officials – Senate President Chea Sim, National Assembly President Heng Samrin, Foreign Minister Hor Namhong, Finance Minister Keat Chhon and two CPP senators Ouk Bunchhœun and Sim Ka – to appear at the ECCC as witnesses.Among the six summoned CPP members, who is hierarchically the most powerful? What is their hierarchy?
The communist regime, such as the Republic Socialist of Vietnam, and its puppet CPP took very important political decisions in secret out of public sight.
Several years ago, in the early 1990s, in Cambodia Embassy at Saigon it was the female cook who was the most powerful member of the Embassy. She was more powerful than the appointed Ambassador.
The most powerful CPP committee is the CPP standing political committee, known as Koor-85. This CPP political committee is the eye and the ear of Hanoi. Koor-85 had left no trace in any CPP publication or public discussion. The ten Koor-85 members are very powerful. It was they who decided everything under Hanoi thumb. They meet together at Hanoi call. Their meeting place had never been in Phnom Penh. Hun Sen is not Koor-85 member. He was just an alternate as Mme Men Sam An. The Koor-85 met always at Chhlong (Kratié province) under a big tree in a revolutionary atmosphere; there was no table; they met around a camp fire under Hanoi officer’s leadership who spoke fluently Cambodian. Then Hanoi officers distributed paper for each member and let them read it very carefully for thirty minutes and asked each one if they understood well the Hanoi order spelled out in the paper. Then the ten members were ordered to execute that Hanoi order. Then they threw that order paper to the fire leaving no written trace of that order. That is always the way the CPP execute Hanoi order to run Cambodia at Hanoi will.
The ten Koor-85 members are in hierarchy descending order: 1. Mat Ly (Muslim, deceased); 2. Sim Ka; 3. Kan Man; 4. Nay Péna; 5. Chea Soth; 6. Say Chhum; 7. Bou Thang (ethnic minority); 8. Say Bou Thang (ethnic minority); 9. Heng Samrin; 10. Chea Sim.
Alternate members: Hun Sen, Men San An.
This political committee was appointed in 1978 when General Lê Duch Anh led his 200,000 soldiers to invade and occupy until today Cambodia in 1978. And Duc Van Anh, the Vietnamese communist Politburo member appointed the Koo-85, the Cambodian Political Standing Committee of ten members since then to run Cambodia under Hanoi thumb.
Under the food chain, Sim Ka must be the very responsible of Cambodia genocide.
* * *
In a criminal trial, we are generally dealing with a decision that must be made under conditions of uncertainty. For example, we will never know with absolute certainty whether O.J. Simpson did murder his ex-wife Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman. But doubts persist, even decades later.Those who believe that O.J. Simpson did murder Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman must acknowledge they were not there when the crime occurred or when the evidence was collected and tested. They must rely on the work and the word of people they do not know. So the jurors in O.J. Simpson case were not asked to vote on whether they believed “he did it.” They were asked whether the prosecution’s evidence proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it.
The perception was that the police in communist regime, Republic Socialist of Vietnam and Kingdom of Cambodia often make false arrest, tamper with evidence, evidence planting, false testimony, and faking documents and cover-up and commit perjury.
Hence, there are so many police lie, Hun Sen police lie, and Vietnamese police lie. Therefore, the ECCC cannot base her verdict on these faking documents and faking testimony, and planting evidence and cover-up and perjury.
FOUR KEY POINTS:
Before we go further, the ECCC must inquiry the very simple following key points:
1. YES or NO, are the documents that will be used by the ECCC as basic for the verdict are authentic or not? The ECCC must authenticate first the DC-CAM documents which are the bulk Khmer Rouge documents.
We raise this very crucial question because we have a dozen of witnesses, living abroad and in Cambodia who can prove that DC-CAM documents are bogus. These witnesses had worked for the Vietnamese Security experts to fabricate and manipulate several dozen thousands of documents which would become later DC-CAM/Toul Sleng official documents. Certain technical aspects of the falsification of these Toul Sleng/DC-Cam documents can be proved also by lab, such FBI lab or French, British, German, Japan or Chinese lab. So, first of all, the ECCC must prove the authenticity of these documents by for example the FBI lab.
Suppose for the moment that if it is true that the DC-CAM documents were bogus it will imply that all the books, all the documents and all the scholar researches that were based on these fake documents will produce at the end a false conclusion. The ECCC cannot trust the opinion of these experts because their scholar researches were manipulated by Hanoi directly or indirectly.
2. YES or NO, the Khmer Rouge army did not defeat Lon Nol Army? It was instead the People Army of Vietnam which crushed Lon Nol Army.
If YES, it was Hanoi which appointed Pol Pot government. We saw already what Hanoi have done with Hun Sen government, his Hanoi puppet government. So what Hanoi can do with Hun Sen’ s government Hanoi can do the same way with Pol Pot government. It results that Hanoi was also responsible of Cambodia genocide as was Pol Pot government.
So Hanoi officials must be summoned to the ECCC as defendants.
3. More than one million Cambodian people were killed during 1975-79 in East zone controlled by Heng Samrin, Chea Sim, Hun Sen and Hanoi after the assassination of the East zone commander So Phim by Heng Samrin and Chea Sim. Entire villages were slaughtered and let die of starvation and exhaustion. Hundred of So Phim battalion commanders, living in Cambodia and abroad, still alive, will volunteer to testify the slaughtering of one million people by Heng Samrin, Chea Sim and Hanoi at the ECCC if some security conditions are met.
4. As a rule of thumb, former Khmer Rouge who had participated to the extermination of more than five thousand people were appointed as high ranking officer in Hun Sen government. They changed their names several times. But family victims knew them well. Score of these genocide perpetrators are still in Hun Sen government. The ECCC must build their case of these people. Sixty-four years after the holocaust, the Jews continued to hunt down the genocide perpetrators of Jew people.
Baphuon
baphuon@aol.com
36 comments:
Khmer Rouge Pro-Vietcong ? or
Khmer Rouge Pro Chinese ?
Or KHMER ROUGE PRO-Vietnamese?
OR JUST KHMER ROUGE
How about you what a fuck pro-?
Now KHMER ROUGE PRO-CHINESE IN Jail And Khmer Rouge Pro-Vietcong in Power In Cambodia.
The ten Koor-85 members are in hierarchy descending order:
1. Mat Ly (Cham komboy dead)
2. Sim Ka(Yuon-Yuon)
3. Kan Man (yuon;
4. Nay Péna(yuon-Chi);
5. Chea Soth (samre);
6. Say Chhum (samre);
7. Bou Thang (Siam ethnic minority);
8. Say Bou Thang (Siam ethnic minority);
9. Heng Samrin (samre-lao);
10. Chea Sim (samre).
Alternate members:
Hun Sen(samre),
Men San An(yuon- brothel operator)
No Khmer Rouge here? May be all are with Sihanouk
First Khmer rouge Pro-Chinese kill
Khmer rouge Pro-Vietnamese and than
Khmer rouge-Pro-Vietnamese kill Khmer
rouge Pro-Chinese? That why Case 1 and case 2 in court in Kampuchea(Khmer rouge court?)
And Khmer People Was kill by The Khmer rouge? WHO ARE THE KHMER ROUGE?
(1) Khmer Rouge Who win Are Kings?.
(2) Khmer Rouge Who lost are in Jail?
Did we got it?
Good JOBS UN, I like to hear their excuses.
If you are drop Khmer Citizen and become US citizen, That is You are Pro-US ! Did we got it? If you back by the US ,It means You Pro-US ! Understand? or still not understand?
The word Pro Mean?
Did we ever hear Khmer Rouge back by Vietcong First?
And Cambodian People Party (CPP) back by Vietcong too? (Vietcong is Vietnamese) So we all should known Pro means?
The ECCC has seeked justice for innocent people, we shoul be proud
of them. Don't forget to seek justice for Pol Pot, this man must acknowledge the regime astrocities.
Signed,
Hun Xen, Sok Xan, Keat Xhon,
" Three things cannot be long hidden: The Sun, The Moon and The Truth." -Buddha
Viet Cong,Sihanouk have destroyed Our Buddha since 1970 what I have seen.
May Buddha bless you all people and Honorable Marcel Lemonde.
hun xen was a street solider carrying AK47 without knowing shit, he is spared
Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime had committed:
Tortures
Brutality
Executions
Massacres
Mass Murder
Genocide
Atrocities
Crimes Against Humanity
Starvations
Slavery
Force Labour
Overwork to Death
Human Abuses
Persecution
Unlawful Detention
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime had committed:
Attempted Murders
Attempted Murder on Chea Vichea
Attempted Assassinations
Attempted Assassination on Sam Rainsy
Assassinations
Assassinated Journalists
Assassinated Political Opponents
Assassinated Leaders of the Free Trade Union
Executions
Executed members of FUNCINPEC Party
Murders
Murdered Chea Vichea
Murdered Ros Sovannareth
Murdered Hy Vuthy
Murdered Khim Sambo
Murdered Khim Sambo's son
Murdered members of Sam Rainsy Party.
Murdered activists of Sam Rainsy Party
Murdered Innocent Men
Murdered Innocent Women
Murdered Innocent Children
Killed Innocent Khmer Peoples.
Extrajudicial Execution
Grenade Attack
Terrorism
Drive by Shooting
Brutalities
Police Brutality Against Monks
Police Brutality Against Evictees
Tortures
Intimidations
Death Threats
Threatening
Human Abductions
Human Abuses
Human Rights Abuses
Human Trafficking
Drugs Trafficking
Under Age Child Sex
Corruptions
Bribery
Illegal Arrest
Illegal Mass Evictions
Illegal Land Grabbing
Illegal Firearms
Illegal Logging
Illegal Deforestation
Illegally use of remote detonation on Sokha Helicopter, while Hok Lundy and other military officials were on board.
Illegally Sold State Properties
Illegally Removed Parliamentary Immunity of Parliament Members
Plunder National Resources
Acid Attacks
Turn Cambodia into a Lawless Country.
Oppression
Injustice
Steal Votes
Bring Foreigners from Veitnam to vote in Cambodia for Cambodian People's Party.
Use Dead people's names to vote for Cambodian People's Party.
Disqualified potential Sam Rainsy Party's voters.
Abuse the Court as a tools for CPP to send political opponents and journalists to jail.
Abuse of Power
Abuse the Laws
Abuse the National Election Committee
Abuse the National Assembly
Violate the Laws
Violate the Constitution
Violate the Paris Accords
Impunity
Persecution
Unlawful Detention
Death in custody.
Under the Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime, no criminals that has been committed crimes against journalists, political opponents, leaders of the Free Trade Union, innocent men, women and children have ever been brought to justice.
Dear Readers,
If you are khmer, or your family member/s are victims of the khmer rouge.
1. You must demand justice. "No demand = no justice! "
2. Encourage others for the same cause and result.
Don't let the oppressor and killer get away! If not, they will continue to look down on us and still do what they want to do us.
This is not stone age. They must be stopped at all cause.
May God have mercy on khmer nation
Khiew Kanharith speaks like a 5 year old boy . I am wondering how much education he has.
Some CPP supporters don't usually have a good comment . They are good at cursing and using profanity words. That kind of people is easy to use .. all you have to do just is give them something they will do anything for you .. included killing.
It appear that the cpp officials is worst than pol pot.
4:19 AM ! you are such an idiot. why are you arguing about the word pro ? what's wrong with it ? the word pro doesn't mean anything because its prefix-meaning , unless you add something to it . don't act like you are a smart guy because you are not . understand it dude ?
khiev kanharith was a UPP student in the 70's.
Before selling his nationalism to CPP,he was a newspaper writer critical to Hun Sen regime .
Now, he is always drunk from getting wealth with corruption that's he talks like an uneducated man.
He will be replaced by Phay Si Phan, CPP SOK AN's spokeman when he died /disabled of acaholism.
By the way ,who know the biography of Sim Ka and Uk Bun Chhoeun?
4:19 AM
Take my advice bro , learn some more English before you come here and tell people about the meaning of words . Your gramma and spelling need to be improved too. I can correct your mistakes if you want me to.
Does any one know what koor-85 means? Why koor-85 and not something else? The number must mean something. Some code?
I think it means Kor 5 . that's the code or the program they used during the Vietnam invasion . According to what I heard .. Kor 5 was a Vietnam's trict that will lead Khmer to distinction.
This is very interesting news. I knew from the start of Pol Pot regime was created by YOUN.
Now it is the same path that they are doing to HUN SEN regime.
Khmer, if you don't wake up we will be done by the YOUN!!!!
During the Lon Nol period I have heard the radio from Peking belling by Sihanouk that Sim Va was pro USA and also he was Kill by Pol Pot. As I see this pic today I am so exited. Is here New Sim Va. Please, who know the real Sim Va?
Ghost Angkor
Baphuon's propaganda:
Also Baphuon beleives that if Veitnamese did not invade Cambodia, Khek khmoa(black crow) will eventualy rescue the killing field.
The country is so corrupted, no one can have real justice if from the head of the state down to the low police officers are not obeying the laws. Perpetrators should have been arrested for all the criminal acts. These are some of the actions that the people of Cambodia don't ever learned about, because the news station has so much sensor imposted on the reporters...
I dont think that Lemonde's car were slashed. I'm working for the ECCC, and I don't hear the case. And I think if thise case is truth, Lemonde would not be able to stay calm.
Please stop saying anything that is not truth,it would make people in the globe get confused.
Baphuon's brain is just like the CPP is infested with imaginary schixo viruses. He is king of make believe fiction. he talks like Hun Xen.
THANKS ECCC FOR SUMMOMED, NOW THE STRUCTURE OF KILLING CAMBODIAN WILL SHOWN.
We cambodian want more, Who is the head of all(Sihanouk). Don't let him die without said a word to his people.
Ah Sim Ka looks like a killer alright...terminate him.
Baphoun has revealed many new things that I have never heard before. His revelation seems right because I heard a lot about the central committees of CPP that has originally copied from PoliBuro of Socialist Vietnam. This central committees are very powerful.
This central committees are powerfully working underneath the flows of Cambodia politics. Hun Sen, Sok An, Kiev Kannarith, Hor Namhong are just the actor to trick the audience.
Let all of us take for grant from Baphoun's analysis and revelation to search truth about the power of this central committees or Koor-85.
If I am not wrong Koor means brain, but why 85? Baphourn produced it or it is real? I need some clarification from Baphourn. Why 85? It means there are other special numbers?
Our KI's fan comment here are really interesting. Finally, we can see that Khmer Rouge pro-Vietnam are the winner always. During the Pol Pot revolution, Pol Pot himself failed to persuade China to supply weapons and tools directly to fighting against USA (Lon Nol). So I do agree with the concept that Pol Pot won the war not because of Pol Pot, it was because of Vietnamese soldiers and their infiltrators. China directly told Pol Pot to ask supplies from Ho Chi Minh.
Jayavarman VII
Sim Ka????????????????
Koor-85??????????????
SO this guy is youn.
Baphuon,
What Baphuon means in Xamere?
To 10:46
How do we know that you are telling the truth?
You might be the one that is lying.
Most of these posters are bashers except one and two who are serious wanting to know more.
To the basher 11;44pm. Baphoun is the name of the Khmer Hindu Temple built in 11th century by King Udayadityavaraman II.
Having read Baphoun's article I agree with him most of them that Youn created the genocide in Cambodia.
But what Baphoun lacked is that he didn't mention that the Khmer Rouge were also created by Youn before King Sihanouk entered.
If Baphoun does the search he will find the name of Youn revolutionist named Phan Boi Chau in 1900's who sought Japanese for help to get rid of French colony. It was true that Youn already inside Cambodia made themselves Khmers and ready to swallow Cambodia after Youn, Khmer and Lao rouges were created (1930's).
Baphoun also lacked of the time Sihanouk flirted with the US then China reprimended him.
Later Lon Nol and Sihanouk carried on different strategies.
Sihanouk went with China and Lon Nol went with the US. Sihanouk didn't create KR which were already created, but his strategies helped by Chinese were to enter with the Youn and Pol Pot.
Lon Nol's army was deeply infiltrated by the Youn spies, the course of strategies toward US changed. With billion of dollars from Stalin Youn bombarded Lon Nol's army easily by the helps from their Youn spies inside Cambodia.
When Pol Pot started to betray Youn and joined with Chinese faction led by Sihanouk and Samphan, the killing escalated.
Sihanouk escaped barely to China when Youn sent their spies to execute him. Hor Nam Hong, a Youn faction and Sihanouk, Chinese faction knew about the genocide, and these two hate each others to death. When King Sihanouk accused Hor Nam Hong of killing Khmers because he was prision's director, Hor Nam Hong run fast to French court to sue Khmer King. Hor Nam Hong was a main man of the Youn Rouge in Cambodia.
Now too many Youn propagandas framing King Sihanouk of killing his own people through youtubes, but King Sihanouk chose to be silent and perhaps, by Chinese's advised him to stay silent. For what reasons we don't know.
Ps: one of Khmer general's daughter married to a Youn man born in Vietnam and he is working with the Global witness. This Youn carries Khmer ID with a Khmer name.
It is also believed that his Khmer wife's parents were given a huge house in Vietnam and so much money to spend. Don't ask me for evidence I met his brother in law in Europe and he told me.
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