Wednesday, June 09, 2010

A Vietnamese academic claimed Vietnamese and Chinese were the original inhabitants of Kampuchea Krom

Mr. Thach Ngoc Thach, president of Khmer Kampuchea Krom Federation.

By Khmerization
Source: Prey Nokors News

A Vietnamese academic has claimed that the Vietnamese and Chinese people were the original inhabitants of Kampuchea Krom territory, long claimed by Khmers as the homeland of ethnic Khmer Krom people who are still inhibiting in great numbers in the region, report Prey Nokor News.

In an interview with Radio Free Asia Vietnamese Program on 20th May, Prof. Nguyen Van Huy, expert anthropologist on indigenous studies and former professor of University of Diderot VII in Paris, claimed that Vietnamese and Chinese people were the original inhabitants of Kampuchea Krom territory who have cleared the forests and jungles to make their villages and towns in the 17th century. He claimed that later on the Khmer people migrated to settle in the areas and only started to rise up against the Vietnamese authority when the French colonialist power incited them to rise up against the Vietnamese administration in the late 1800s, telling them that the areas were once Cambodian territory.

Prof. Nguyen Van Huy said the areas where Kampuchea Krom is situated were once jungles with thick forests. He said the Vietnamese and Chinese people, called Nguoi Minh or Nguoi Tau, came to the areas in the 17th century and cleared all the forests to make villages and towns. He said the Khmers only began to claim the areas as theirs when the French colonised the areas in the late 1800s and they only rose up against the Vietnamese authority when the French parliament voted to cede Kampuchea Krom territory to Vietnam after it gave independence to Vietnam in 1954.

Mr. Thach Ngoc Thach, president of Khmer Kampuchea Krom Federation, dismissed Prof. Nguyen's comments as fabrications and false, saying that the Khmer people had inhabited the Mekong delta areas even before the city of Hanoi was established. He said many Khmer temples and pagodas in Kampuchea Krom were constructed long before 17th century. He said Wat Sambor Raingsey or Wat Sambor pagoda was built in 373 AD which is now 1637 years old already. Hanoi was only established about 1000 years ago, which is still much younger than the Khmer pagoda of Wat Sambor Raingsey and other Khmer Buddhist temples, he said.

According to the history of Kampuchea Krom, the Vietnamese people had only been allowed to settle temporarily in Kampuchea Krom in 1623 by the Khmer King, King Chey Chetha II, to allow them to escape from the civil war between the Trinh and Nguyen dynasty. As they came in great numbers and due to the weakness of the Cambodian state, the Vietnamese emperor subsequently annexed 21 Cambodian provinces, one by one. In 1856, King Ang Duang of Cambodia wrote to Napoleon III asking him not accept the Kampuchea Krom territory as his colony if it was offered by the Vietnamese emperor. Napoleon III gave strong assurances to King Ang Duang that Kampuchea Krom would be returned to Cambodian control once France withdrew from the area. However, on 4th June 1949, the French parliament voted to ced all territories of Kampuchea Krom to Vietnam.

40 comments:

Anonymous said...

Khmer people are savage brown monkeys who deserve no land for themselves. They should live in caves and trees and leave the land for the civilized Siem and Viet people.

Proud Siem

Anonymous said...

YUON and Thai are from the same root. They always twisted the history. Khmer Krom are orignal owner of this place.

Soon Khmer will send YUON and SIAM to YUNAN.

Khmer Prey Nokor,

Anonymous said...

There are many books written in English and French about the history of Kampuchea Krom. This bigoted Vietnamese academic would have a hard time convincing the world, though he might succeed in fooling his gullible Vietnamese people.

Thailand took more than 10 provinces and Vietnamese annexed 21 provinces of Khmer territory. This is an undeniable fact written in world history. Also many pagodas and ancient temples were built across Kmapcuhea Krom and in Surin in Thailand long before the Viet and Thai settled in their present-day territories.

Anonymous said...

i bet you 7:30am is not siem.... he is just some idiot fucking around....what tai person would call himself ah siem think about it people dont get mad at this idot LOLz...and remember this aint the guy PROUD SIAM that always be talking shit on the home page he is F.O.B. he cant speak english properly....now this guy 7:30am he can speak english, i bet you dis idiot is from the state...aint i right a proud siem

Anonymous said...

Stupid professor! I will include him along with current government of traitors in my daily prayer. I pray that God will strike all of them in the near future!
We Khmers, including Khmer Kampuchea Krom, Khmer overseas, Surin, inside Cambodia, let's all pray together for their downfall!

Anonymous said...

FUCK TAILAND AND ALL YOU HANOI MOTHERFUCKERS

Anonymous said...

If he is SIAM he wouldn't misspelled the word SIEM or SIAM. Real SIAM doens't spell like it is SIAM no SIEM. SIEM is called by Khmer. So he is Khmer but pretending to be SIAM.

So there!!

Anonymous said...

This is how it started. After the Viets been settled anywhere on earth, they will claim the territory is them. Is Champa belong to Vietnam as well?

Khmer Krom, Khmer Cambodia, and Muslim should rises against the Vietnam invasion and reclaim its territory back from Vietnam. Who are Vietnam anyway, the Chinese prirates?

Anonymous said...

i realy admire khmer krom people. if all khmer have the unity, attitude ad dedication as khmer krom all khmer would be much much stronger then today. most khmer in phnom penh are coward and brain washed by their unethical government. cambodian government serve youn interest not khmer/khmer krom. they are fuckin true traitor!!!

Anonymous said...

The Dream of khmer and khmer krom never ever take back their lost land from our Vietnamese and our friend Thailand. We bought all the figure heads to work for us such as Kim Van Chheng, Thach Setha, Thach Em, Chau Sok, Thach Huong.

Soon we will buy Thach Ngoc Thach, Thach Vien, Thach Tuon, Thach Bun Roeun and Thach Tong Phoeuk.

In Cambodia all in our hands, and very very tight!!!

Anonymous said...

What a turn around by Youn and Siam. They robbed your land and in turn accused your never own the land in the first place.

What kind of education did this guy get. No proof to his claim.

Anonymous said...

Fuck those Frenchies!!!

Anonymous said...

Let me run my Cambodia, the Viets will have a slim chance to be in Cambodia. My intention is and have been very clear and strong.

A khmer overSEE

Anonymous said...

I am not surprised a bit by Ah Yuon Nguyen Van Huy. He is no academic, but a history manipulator to fit the Viets' aggression and inhumane acts.

Academics conduct their research based on facts and evidence. This clown Nguyen Van Huy is basing on his twisted ideology and Vietcong doctrines to say that Kampuchea Krom(south Vietnam) is not Khmer Krom's homeland.

PLEASE, PLEASE AND PLEASE DEFINE THE MEANING OF "NAM TIEN" and HOW VIET AGGRESSORS KILLED OTHER RACES SUCH AS THE CHAMPA KINGDOM TO MAKE YOUR ANNAM.

LET ME PUT THIS WAY:
-KAMPUCHEA KROM (THE MEKONG DELTA) USED TO BE RICH IN NATURE AND ITS INHABITANTS (KHMER KROM) WERE PROSPEROUS AND WEALTHY. KHMER KROM USED LIVE IN HAPPINESS AND HEALTHY.

-SINCE THE ARRIVAL OF THE VIET RACE, THE WHOLE TERRITORIES HAVE BEEN POLLUTED AND DESTROYED BY THE SLASH-AND-BURN OF THE VIET ENVIRONMENTALLY-DESTRUCTIVE POLICY. WATER IS POLLUTED. THE AIR IS POLLUTED. THE TREES CUT DOWN TO THE ROOTS AND EXTERMINATED. THE ECOSYSTEM WAS PERMANENTLY ALTERED/DESTROYED THE VIETS' INHUMANE ACTS.

THE ONLY THING VIETS ARE GOOD AT IS KILLING, KILLING, AND MORE KILLING--FROM KILLING KHMER KROM PEOPLE TO THE PLANTS TO THE ECOSYSTEM OF THE MEKONG DELTA.

Children of Governor SON KUY

Anonymous said...

What do you expect from the Vietcong high culture? Who eat dog and pray to naked women!ahhahahha


The Viet will always lie, cheat, and steal!

The discussion of the Khmer Krom will continue until there is a solution!

Anonymous said...

What the professor said was right that Viet and Chinese people inhabitated Kampuchea Krom. Sooner or later he will claim that Viet inhabitate in Tonle Sap areas, reccent Viet land coneccesion areas that Hun Sen just approved off and eventually the whole Cambodia will belong to Viet. This is true since more and more Viet are coming to reside in Cambodia and next 50 years they will claim Phnom Penh will be their home.

Anonymous said...

What the professor said was right that Viet and Chinese people inhabitated Kampuchea Krom. Sooner or later he will claim that Viet inhabitate in Tonle Sap areas, reccent Viet land coneccesion areas that Hun Sen just approved off and eventually the whole Cambodia will belong to Viet. This is true since more and more Viet are coming to reside in Cambodia and next 50 years they will claim Phnom Penh will be their home.

Anonymous said...

What the hell is wrong with ah YUON fake academician. Even in the United States some YUON PhDs are actually Internet students who pay a lot of money to get the title PhDs. No wonder, these so-called YUON "academicians" do not know how to do RESEARCH at all. Land grabbing YUON thieves are well known in this world.

I'm GAY said...

As a Khmer I am not worried what Yuon said. We have facts from the history. Trace back when did Yuon invade and took Champa, then we know when Yuon entered our land now SVN.
Our people now have found too many documents to support and defend our land. This very old document is not easy to read, but I cannot post until I find a blog that allows me to post Pdf files. To post those Pdf files I have to pay, but money is not the issue, the issue is Yuon will sue or kill me if I make myself known.

My partner & I are having more than 500's copies, and also includes Yuon entered Champa then marching toward our land KKK.
Yuon fabricated history but tried to flatter China saying KK was discovered by Chinese and Yuon.
Chinese were just immigrants who lived with Khmers.

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p. 115 - 132
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annee du regne de L:a HI-TON (2), soit 1679 de notre ere, parut devant Tourane,
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s'enquirir des nouveaux arrivants et its apprirent bientot que c'etaient a les derniers debris des armees des empereurs Ming,
A la verite, l'Empereur K' ANG-HI (3), 26 souverain de la nouvelle dynastie,celie des Ts'ing (4), rignait depuis pres de 18 ans, mais les partisans des
empereurs dechus, doot les descendants s'etaient refugies en Annam puis en
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usages - aujourd'hui on dirait au nouvel ordre - s'enfuirent sur une Botte
de 200 jonques, la temptte l' avah dispersee et c' etaient les survivants de cette
armee et de cette Hotte, 3.000 hommes environ, avec leurs generaux DU"O"NG-

Anonymous said...

Inside this history 11;49am there're Champa Kingdom and how Yuon did to the Cham people.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, I don't know who should I trust. If khmer Krom own that land, why they don't have land? They are refugee in Cambodia and else where...

Anonymous said...

lol, Khmer Krom do not blame Youn.
Youn not stole or invade KKK's land. Because Khmer King allowed Youn to inhabitants of Kampuchea-Krom land.

Please stop a game blame Youn. If you do, you have to ask King Sihanauk; only him know the truth about KKK. Youn has already controls KKK and Khmer Krom can't claim self-determination without King Sihanauk help.

Good Luck Khmer Krom people.

Anonymous said...

Fuck You Mr. Thach Ngoc Thach, Where you study from???? Hun Sen elementary school in Cambodia?
Your statement is a complete fail to history.

Anonymous said...

12:55? You read Mr. Thach Ngoc Thach's rebuttal? Or did you read the headline and thought what the Viet professor said was Thach's claim?

You are the stupid one who needs to learn how to read and go back to Hun Sen elementary school.

What Thach said is true. Khmer have stone Vats in South Vietnam dating back even before the establishment of the Viet nation.

Not only that, this professor completely ignores the fact that Champa, was also a kingdom that once existed in this region and was a buffer zone for the Khmer kingdom. Viet could not colonize Kampuchea Krom until they went through Champa.

They can go off fool their ignorant people because simply today, no Cham person will stand up to challenge that claim. He is banking on this, that no Cham person would have any voice because they're almost literally decimated in Vietnam.

But he won't fool anyone in the international academics. Youn has been fabricating and stealing other people's territory and as we see, their ambitions and unabashed unshamefulnes continue still. So does the world still think Vietnam is a great nice nation? And Khmer a xenophobe nation? Or will the world see Vietnam for what it truly is, a conniving country that is dishonest and racist towards other nation and try to swallow others.

Anonymous said...

Same too you 12:55pm ah dumpest ass you don't know shit ah Youn mother fucker. Your people is the thieves from China go back to where your belong pale skins and chingy eyes mother fucker.

Anonymous said...

Vietnam or Vietnamese never acknowledge that Khmer ever existed in Kampuchea Krom. Never. Ask any Vietnamese, if there are Cambodian in Vietnam. They would no, I don't see any. If you ask them where did they go? They would say, I don't know. May be they go to Loas or Cambodia. So in their world, we are none existence.

Anonymous said...

thieft thai and youn they are try to be one of the people when they are only the monkey on the forest.

Anonymous said...

try harder kumpuchea krom one day you will be independent from thieft youn. because russian is becoming independent for their own state, and some other also country also independent from some stupid country like viet name.

I'm GAY said...

12:28 PM,
None of Khmer Kings allowed Yuon to take KKK. You are just a very-very BAD as these posters who keep trashing the blogs, and then refused to educate yourself and themselves.

Yuon forced themselves into Cambodia with troop like they did in Champa, and Yuon were defeated by one of Khmer King and that war took 6 years to defeat Yuon. The the King who defeated Yuon died later, the new King Chey Chetha II on the throne, Yuon came again and again with a daughter and 500 servants led by her cousin who was Yuon general. In the history wrote by European who witnessed the event, she was named Ang Chau gave Chey Chetha II four children, while she was sleeping around with high ranking and sleeping with her own servants as well. That was the history no body wanted to mention. She was worse than any prostitute below all. She was rude and very naughty woman.

Chey Chetha died, then she made her oldest son King, but later he was murdered by Khmers helped by the Europeans.

I'll be posting all my old documents very soon, so all you idiots can read and be abale to understand.

Champa is the main history that Khmer Kampuchea Krom must focus on. When did the Yuon invade Champa and when did Yuon take Champa then when did Yuon march to Kampuchea Krom, etc. It's written by the Chinese and European Scholars. I also have Yuon history from when Yuon were under Chinese's rope.

Be patient, I'll post some of my old documents for your Yuon, Khmers and others to read.

Anonymous said...

they talked about the 17th century, that's mekong river delta belonged to cambodia since the 1st century a.d., since nokor phnom era or funan era as the chinese called nokor phnom. so, the illegal youns just started to migrate during the weak king chey chetta era in the 17th century. so, our history was correct to say that king chey chetta is the one to open up the area to illegal youn migration into khmer krom territory since then. i wouldn't be surprised that youn changed the khmer names of the mekong river delta region to make it sound like youn accent; fortunately, khmer and khmer krom always kept the khmer names alive and khmer language alive forever there.

Anonymous said...

Some sources said: Thach Ngoc Thach's wife is yuon hué, they speak yuon at home, is that true Thach Ngoc Thach? Samdech Hun Sen is a great man, and you don't have anything to do with him ok, just run your stupid KKK for the rest of your life and your children , grand and great great grand children and don't add anything to my country, I'll attack you and attack you at will!

Anonymous said...

We should build "Angkor Wall" before Dai Viet expanded.

Anonymous said...

9:45 PM
GAY, lol, you dog just like Khmer King King Chey Chetha II. that Why Youn took all Khmer lands and love you dog!

Anonymous said...

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Members:
Pol Pot
Nuon Chea
Ieng Sary
Ta Mok
Khieu Samphan
Son Sen
Ieng Thearith
Kaing Kek Iev
Hun Sen
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka...

Committed:
Tortures
Brutality
Executions
Massacres
Mass Murder
Genocide
Atrocities
Crimes Against Humanity
Starvations
Slavery
Force Labour
Overwork to Death
Human Abuses
Persecution
Unlawful Detention


Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime

Members:
Hun Sen
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka...

Committed:
Attempted Murders
Attempted Murder on Chea Vichea
Attempted Assassinations
Attempted Assassination on Sam Rainsy
Assassinations
Assassinated Journalists
Assassinated Political Opponents
Assassinated Leaders of the Free Trade Union
Assassinated over 80 members of Sam Rainsy Party.

"But as of today, over eighty members of my party have been assassinated. Countless others have been injured, arrested, jailed, or forced to go into hiding or into exile."
Sam Rainsy LIC 31 October 2009 - Cairo, Egypt
  
Executions
Executed over 100 members of FUNCINPEC Party
Murders
Murdered 3 Leaders of the Free Trade Union 
Murdered Chea Vichea
Murdered Ros Sovannareth
Murdered Hy Vuthy
Murdered 10 Journalists
Murdered Khim Sambo
Murdered Khim Sambo's son 
Murdered members of Sam Rainsy Party.
Murdered activists of Sam Rainsy Party
Murdered Innocent Men
Murdered Innocent Women
Murdered Innocent Children
Killed Innocent Khmer Peoples.
Extrajudicial Execution
Grenade Attack
Terrorism
Drive by Shooting
Brutalities
Police Brutality Against Monks
Police Brutality Against Evictees
Tortures
Intimidations
Death Threats
Threatening
Human Abductions
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Human Trafficking
Drugs Trafficking
Under Age Child Sex
Corruptions
Bribery
Embezzlement
Treason
Border Encroachment, allow Vietnam to encroaching into Cambodia.
Signed away our territories to Vietnam; Koh Tral, almost half of our ocean territory oil field and others.  
Illegal Arrest
Illegal Mass Evictions
Illegal Land Grabbing
Illegal Firearms
Illegal Logging
Illegal Deforestation

Illegally use of remote detonation bomb on Sokha Helicopter, while Hok Lundy and other military officials were on board.

Lightning strike many airplanes, but did not fall from the sky.  Lightning strike out side of airplane and discharge electricity to ground. 
Source:  Lightning, Discovery Channel

Illegally Sold State Properties
Illegally Removed Parliamentary Immunity of Parliament Members
Plunder National Resources
Acid Attacks
Turn Cambodia into a Lawless Country.
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Injustice
Steal Votes
Bring Foreigners from Veitnam to vote in Cambodia for Cambodian People's Party.
Use Dead people's names to vote for Cambodian People's Party.
Disqualified potential Sam Rainsy Party's voters. 
Abuse the Court as a tools for CPP to send political opponents and journalists to jail.
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Death in custody.

Under the Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime, no criminals that has been committed crimes against journalists, political opponents, leaders of the Free Trade Union, innocent men, women and children have ever been brought to justice. 

Anonymous said...

this kid "Thach Ngoc thach," use to gratuate from toilet and napkin bathroom and he use to lies to kid Hun kwack Sen and they both are having lobster brain.

Anonymous said...

(this kid "Thach Ngoc thach," use to gratuate from toilet and napkin bathroom and he use to lies to kid Hun kwack Sen and they both are having lobster brain.

1:42 AM)

OMG, look at you. Why you use dirty language on this Blog.

Did your parent educate you teach you how to speak and write polite word? Go back home tell your parent and you grandmom teach you...! All the words you wrote above only stupid kid on the street uses its...!

Anonymous said...

TO:AH!7:30AM AND AH!,7:05AM,YOU TWO ARE LISTENING CAREFULLY! OK!,PRICK!.IF YOU ARE NOT INSULTED KHMER PEOPLES,NO ONE WILL NOT ATTACK YOU! SON OF THE BITCHES!.THIS ATTACKING,WE`RE KHMER PEOPLES CALLING SELVES DEFENCE,YOU`RE UNDERSTANDING NOW!,MORON! AND REMEMBER ONE THING LOBSTER`S BRAIN IS BETTER THAN WORM`S BRAIN,YOU IDIOT!.PROBABLY,IN YOUR HOME FUCKING LAND IN FUCKING HANOI,HAS NO LOBSTERS TO EAT,YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!.IT DOESN`T MATTER,WE`RE CURSING ON YOU TWO! BECAUSE YOU`RE OUR ENEMIES OF FUCKING HISTORY,YOU GOT IT SIAM AND YOUN PRICK????.YOU`RE TWO ALWAYS THIEVES TO THE KHMER PEOPLES,IT DOESN`T MATTER YOU WANT TO CHANGE, CREATE A NEW FALSE YOUR OWN BULLSHITS FUCKING HISTORY!.THE WHOLE GOD DAMN WORLD HAVE KNOWN LONG LONG TIME AGO,YOU TWO SON OF THE BITCHES!,SHUT THE FUCK OFF! OK!,AH! YELLOW LEMON AND AH! GREEN ROTTEN LEMON.SEE YOU LATTER AH! CROCODILES EAST AND WEST IN SOUTH EAST ASIA!.FROM ME YOUR DADDY IN CANANA,MONTREAL.

Anonymous said...

to,7:05am,you`re deserved man!,sometime a stupid kid in the street `s better than you man!.Have you ever seen the street fighters?,is always better than the one in the club.

Anonymous said...

TO,mr:NGUYEN VAN HUY!,WE ARE KHMER PEOPLES AROUND THE GLOB,DON`T BUY YOUR CRAP BULLSHITS ACADEMIC! OK?.YOU ONLY CAN BULLSHIT YOUR YOUN YOUNG GENERATIONS TO BRAIN WASH! BUT NOT THE YOUNG KHMER GENERATIONS!.WE HAVE LEARNT A LOT OF THINGS FROM OUR ENCESTORS AND OUR OLDEST GENERATIONS(SIHANOUK,LON NOL,POL POT AND MORE KHMER COMPATRIOTS).OBVIOUSLY,THE CAMBODIAN`S HISTORY AND THE MODERN HISTORY OF THE YOUNG KHMER`S COMPATRIOTS WHO IS ALWAYS WATCHING YOU AH!(CONG CHHAR!,CONG CAGK!).KEEP YOUR STINCKY MOUTH CLOSE,YOU EPILEPSY,DENGUE FEVER AND AH! MALARIA.

Anonymous said...

Tell the true is our goal. Using bad word or bad behavious is not our culture.
I wish all Khmer people should respect our culture and keep our tradition.