Thursday, December 09, 2010

Neatee Koun Khmers: Exploring the concept of responsibility


It has been a heart wrenching experience for Cambodian people and observers all over the globe to witness the recent, paradoxical event when a Cambodian celebration of water, an essential element of life, resulted in unexpected losses of life and well-being. Millions of Khmers had converged at the country’s capital to celebrate the annual water festival, but the celebrations turned unexpectedly grievous when, at the end of the festival, 352 persons lost their lives and 395 other people were injured in a stampede accident at the bridge to Koh Pich Island.
Current technology added a special dimension to this tragedy when the pictures and videos of those who trapped and struggled to catch, for many, their last breath were made available almost instantly. The Internet made the experience very graphic and real even for those who were viewing the incident from separate continents. Martin Johnes (2004) understood the impacts of such events. “Disasters have powerful emotional, psychological and social impacts. They bring home the realities of risk in a way that abstract possibilities cannot. This creates expectations and demands for action to ensure there can be no repetition. Yet the extent to which expectations are fulfilled, and the force with which they are demanded, depends very much on the political circumstances of the tragedy and those affected” (p. 134).
Although November 22, 2010 will be remembered as one of the most tragic events in Cambodian history, the debate in the aftermath has shifted now that the government completed the investigation of the accident and held no one responsible or accountable. To assist in this debate, Neatee Koun Khmers proposes to replace its scheduled topic of discussion from Exploring the Concept of Political Institutions to Exploring the Concept of Responsibility.
What does the word responsibility mean to you? Please break it down, take it apart. This is your forum; please take this conversation in any direction that pleases you or write an article relating to the discussed topic and send it to K I media team for posting and sharing. Pang Sokhoeun provided a perfect example in our last discussion when we talked about the concept of leadership, and so did Theary Seng and Khmer Young in our previous discussion.
Meanwhile, allow me to look into existing literature about responsibility. Upon reviewing the literature, I found a few definitions of responsibility that may assist and/or complement our dialogue. As a way of introducing the concept for our discussion, I will briefly take you through Heider’s (Bordel et al. 2006) five levels of responsibility, Hagiwara’s (1992) discussion of responsibility in Japanese context, McKeon’s (Harmon, 1995) view of moral responsibility, and Kaler’s (2002) definition of accountability.
To understand the levels of responsibility, Bordel et al. (2006) incorporated Heider’s definitions of responsibility in their research. There are five levels of responsibility -- association, causality, previsibility, responsibility, and justification:
  • Association means that an individual is responsible for any action having a link with himself, even if he did not commit this act. “In this way, direct causality is not a necessary condition for the allocation of responsibility: So a parent can be seen as being responsible for the actions of his or her children on the simple basis of the link which unites them.”
  • Causality refers to the notion that a person is considered to be responsible for any action which he/she has committed. “In this sense causality here encompasses responsibility.”
  • Previsibility can be attributed responsibility to any individual who could have foreseen the consequences of an act which he or she did not prevent happening.
  • Responsibility refers to the intentional nature of the act. “A person is responsible for the action which she or he intended should happen.”
  • Justification predicts that an intentional action cannot be entirely attributed to the person if that person carried it out under the constraints of environmental factors. This globally refers to circumstances which are said to be attenuating. (Bordel et al., 2006, p. 229)
Shigeru Hagiwara (1992) examined the concept of responsibility in Japanese context. The term responsibility which equates to “sekinin” in Japanese usually refers to liability or blame. Accordingly, sekinin is used widely in two distinctive ways:
1) To describe duties or obligations pertaining to that person’s role or position, as in the expression: “It is the parents’ responsibility to raise their children;” and 2) to assign blame or sanction to someone when an untoward occurrence is observed, as in the case of: “Who is responsible for the accident?” (p. 145)
While Alexander Bain (Harmon, 1995, p.15), equated responsibility as punishability in the sense that “a men can never be said to be responsible, if you are not prepared to punish him when he cannot satisfactorily answer the charge made against him,” McKeon viewed responsibility as a moral concept:
The idea of moral responsibility originated and developed in the context of the evolution of political and cultural responsibility. There was no moral responsibility until there were communities in which men were held accountable for their actions and in which actions were imputed to individual men. There were no moral individuals prior to the development and recognition of moral responsibility. (cited in Harmon, 1995, p. 16)
Finally, I would like to throw the term ‘accountability’ in the mix here because I have seen and heard people use this word interchangeably with responsibility. According to Kaler (2002), accountability has to do with providing answers, as with reporting or, more obviously, `giving an account'. Accountability in this sense is viewed as being honestly informative in relation to responsibility:
What we are being informative about when we are accountable in this way is our conduct and, more particularly, our conduct with respect to the carrying out of our responsibilities. We are, in other words, being `answerable' in the sense of providing answers to questions about how well or badly we have carried out our responsibilities, with the very strong implication that it is the latter which is of prime concern (hence, of course, the categorization of accountability as causal responsibility for bad situations in the previous section). (p. 328-329)
In conclusion, we have looked at levels of responsibility, responsibility as liability or blame, responsibility as a moral concept, and responsibility as it relates to accountability. As we carry on this dialogue, Habermas reminds us that we, too, carry responsibility in our deliberation. We have to be responsible for each other. Our collective deliberation will enhance our ethical and moral standing in our community and our nation. A deliberative citizen, according to Habermas, “is one who engages in a public discussion on an issue of public concern, takes the points of view of all relevant parties seriously as well as any other relevant norms and aspects of the situation, makes a decision in light of these reflections, and then has the moral strength to accept the decisions” (Doheny, 2007, p. 409).
It will take both responsible citizens and government to mitigate, or hopefully prevent, the impacts of the next incident or disaster. It takes all of us to be conscious of our ideas and our actions to get to where we want to be as a nation -- a prosperous democratic nation. Once again, I thank you for participating in this forum. We did a great job in our previous discussion. Let’s do that again.
References
Bordel, S., Guingouain, G., & Somat, A. (2006). Objective and subjective responsibility in a judicial context. Swiss Journal of Psychology/Schweizerische Zeitschrift für Psychologie/Revue Suisse de Psychologie, 65(4), 227-235. doi:10.1024/1421-0185.65.4.227.
Doheny, S. (2007). Responsibility and the Deliberative Citizen: Theorizing the Acceptance of Individual and Citizenship Responsibilities. Citizenship Studies, 11(4), 405-420. Retrieved from E-Journals database.
Johnes, M. (2004). 1 'Heads in the Sand': Football, Politics and Crowd Disasters in Twentieth-Century Britain. Soccer and Society, 5(2), 134-151. Retrieved from E-Journals database.
Kaler, J. (2002). Responsibility, accountability and governance. Business Ethics: A European Review, 11(4), 327-334. Retrieved from E-Journals database.
Hagiwara, S. (1992). The Concept of Responsibility and Determinants of Responsibility Judgment in the Japanese Context. International Journal of Psychology, 27(2), 143-156. Retrieved from E-Journals database.
Harmon, M. (1995). Responsibility as paradox: a critique of rational discourse on government. Thousand Oaks, London, and New Delhi: Sage Publications

45 comments:

Anonymous said...

Fuck you. We do not want to read your analysis that it takes all the page.

Anonymous said...

9:05, how difficult is it for you to scroll down? You would have an excuse if you're "parapalegic" of the upper extremities, mainly the brain.

Show/have some grace, or else life will be very difficult for you to go through.

Anonymous said...

Koun Khmer,

First, I would like to thank you very much for puting this article which is appropreately in contact as to what had just happen to our country.

This indeed a big topic. So far as we are share the reading in ki's space, we have been point figure toward the government as almost the soul responsibility of anything going wrong in our country. But as you're well point out clearly, that as a citizen, "We have to be responsible for each other." which mean that each of us citizen has to be responsible for each other within the commen community. In addition,"Our collective deliberation will enhance our ethical and moral standing in our community and our nation." - In this case the responsibility of government and citizen are not mutually exclusive. In addition, each of us as a citizen, we can not stand a side and complain about what government is doing wronge because we are the citizen that elect the govt. into office. Therefore, we as a citizen have a responsibility to see the government have the responsible and accountability to her citizen. Only a day after the stampede,the prime minister came out and cover up that nobody responble for the stampede. It was the bridge problem - it is too small. With the speed of how much land the government had been concession and selling in the name of development...citizen can no longer live on their own land. As one can see the case in Bung Kou, etc.

The beauty of democracy is that for every five years, people have the responsibility to vote the government that will take responsibility and accountability to the people and the national interest. so far, the Sen's government has neither serve the people nor take responsibility toward her citizen. Therefore, next election, it is the citizen time, indivitually and collectively have a responsibility to vote the government that will have responsibility as well as accountability toward our Khmer people and our Khmer nation.

Anonymous said...

Talking about responsibility...the Hun Sen's government take no responsibility toward the dead people in stampede. Not only that, the government not event proceed to have a proper investigation of what really cost the event! The case closed! The reason is that Mr. Hun Sen want to protect his daughter investment on diamond island! He is a good father, but not a good leader for khmer people and our nation!

Anonymous said...

the way i see it in cambodia, leadership (meaning all levels) should be educated all the time to remind them of responsibility as a leader. repsonsibility in plain or simple term means accountability, stop the blame, be accountable for own mistakes, direction, action, etc... in the case of past gov't and stupid KR regime, a mistake can be costly to the nation and people. also, a paradigm shift to some degree, especially in personal philosophy, conducts, behavior, etc must be implemented in cambodia so the future will be better than the recent past!

Anonymous said...

to pick a good leader, we must have a rigorous, stringent, tough measures or requirements or pre-requisite for that position. don't let allow anyone to be a leader. he/she must be highly and well trained and educated, not only on national level, but international or global level as well. also, emphasis the critical thinking skills and analytical skills as well. and there ought to be a law that make the selection process a legal process, not so much by inherit rights like the exception of royal linage. in gov't all capable people from all walks of life should be encouraged and allowed, given they met the reqirements, a chance to lead, to participate, to voice or speak out, etc... i think everyone of us is capable when given a fair, equal chance or opportunity to succeed, to learn, to give it our best shot, etc... it's time for khmer people to wake up, after all the sufferings, disruptions, etc!

Anonymous said...

A person should learn to take responsible himself. You can't expect the government to babysit you on everything and you should not blame the government on everything either. How about John F. Kenny famous quote: "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

Think about it!

Anonymous said...

The more time I spend in Cambodia, the more I believe that the young Koun Khmers generation in Cambodia are capable to lead the change. The University students, and those that are working for NGOs,and INGOs, they let the group discussion, they are capable to come up with policy to help villagers to build a sustainable community; they volunteers their time to help others, etc. They are capable to be a leader in their own right. This is just from my observation...

Anonymous said...

responsibility is knowing what's right and what's wrong; it is a duty under your watch to be held responsible for failure or success, either way! now blaming is not the same as giving credit to or recognizing the individuals for their deeds, it is the opposite as in irresponsible. please think!

Anonymous said...

yes, it's called brainstorming for ideas, ways, conepts, etc... it works wonders. from there, it leads to actions, thinking, etc... it's the process. good thinking!

Anonymous said...

it means to also take charge when see someone is less capable in a group, but be respectable about it, not rude or dispecable!

Anonymous said...

យើងត្រូវតែនាំគ្នានិយាយពីអំពើក្បត់ជាតិនឹងអំពើអាក្រក់
របស់មេដឹកនាំកម្ពុជា មានដូចជា ៖
ពួកអាឆ្កែកញ្ជះយួន ហ៊ុន សែន, ហេងសំ រិន, ជាស៊ីម, សុខ អាន, ហោ ណាំហុង, ឱម យិនទៀង, ចៀម យីប, វ៉ា គិម ហុង, ស ខេង, ងួន ញ៉ឹល ។ល។ និង ។ល។
និយាយហើយនិយាយទៀតដើម្បីអោយជាតិ និងអន្តរជាតិ
ដឹងឮ ទូទាំងពិភពលោក។

Anonymous said...

gov't position shouldn't be permanent, unless the law required it or it is a commissioned position, etc... otherwise, that's how people abuse the system. and it's been this way for as long as i can remember and longer. they ought to reform it a bit!

Anonymous said...

responsibility falls on leadership; and it takes a unique or special character to be a leader because not everyon has that ability like something else in life as well. i just wish people respect each other's difference in opinions; i mean, we can disagree but agree to disagree instead of displaying personal superiority, etc..., not appropriate! this calls for professionalism or code of conduct or ethical conduct, etc... otherwise, we'll be killing each other like the stupid KR regime! not good, to say the least, really!

Anonymous said...

12:03 am - you are rights...this is an opportunity for all of us for brainstorming the ideas (but don't just storm our brain!). Make it more constructive and which is the best way attack the issue of responsibility and countability for government as well as for Khmer citizen. What does it mean to be Khmer citizen? What responsibility of Khmer citizen have toward our nation? What accountability do we have to Khmer younger generations?

Anonymous said...

12:23 am,

Sometime, it is difficult for me to read comment on Ki media, people use a lot of bad words which I don'tevent want to say! But good article like this Neatee Koun Khmer, it will bring me back to read this blog!

Ki's team,thank for sharing this post. And thanks to Koun Khmer for your time to write this constructive article. Your time and knowledge is highly appreciated.

ជនពាល said...

អ្នកដែលទទួលខុសត្រូវក្នុងរឿងឧប្បទ្ធវហេតុនេះ
គឺដូនតាខ្មែរយើង ពីព្រោះពួកគាត់នេះហើយ គឺជាអ្នកដែល បានបន្សល់ទុកនៅបុណ្យប្រពៃនីជាតិដ៏គ្រោះថ្នាក់មួយនេះ
។ សូមកុំភ្លេចថា មិនមែនទើបតែពេលកន្លងមកនេះទេ ដែលបុណ្យជាតិមួយនេះ បានផ្ដាច់ជីវិតមនុស្ស
គឺរៀងរាល់លើក នៃពិធីបុណ្យនេះ គឺតែតែមានមនុស្សស្លាប់ដោយសារការលេចលង់ទូក ឬគ្រោះថ្នាកចរាចរល។ល។ ជានិច្ច ។ វាទាស់តែលើនេះមាន ស្លាប់ច្រើនតែប៉ុណ្ណោះ
ដូច្នេះ ៕

Anonymous said...

1:01 am,

What are you trying to say in relation to responsibility. Yes, I agreed with you that at this kind of event - there are people die. But in the case of stampede, it is a preventable accident if the government had a careful planning! There is always plan A and plan B - it is ready for an "in case" kind of situation. Be prepare and ready! Not until the event happen than blaim that to big of a groud. Can you imagine if the fire fighters - just said we don't prepare this big of fire. Public safty must be a government priority in this kind of event.

Do you ever heard that in order to maintain peace, you have to prepare for war. Thus,in this case. it apply as well. If you want the event to go smoothly, you should have prepare for the desastor - just in case! This event, hopeful will open many Khmers' eyes to see that the government are incompetant and worse of all, they are not willing to take responsibility! Furthermore, Hun Sen just try to protect his daughter interest...he is only think of money for his family and his clants!

Anonymous said...

ដូនតាខ្មែរមិនគួរធ្វើពិធីបុណ្យឆ្កួតៗ នេះទេ៕

Anonymous said...

2:41 am,

I don't think that"បុណ្យឆ្កួតៗ". It is khmer tradition - it is signify khmer identity...the case here is the lack of competant of the authority to take care and to make sure that the event run smoothly.

2:41 am - need careful planning, training and proper execution the program properly.

Just a small example, when Khmer New Year taking place in Long Beach, the city requires the organizer to have enough security as well as enough toilet to accomodate all the people that are going to the new year! If the organizer cannot meet all the requirement - the city wouldn't allow to have the event, period!

Now 2:41 am - do you understand of what 2:39 am is trying to say?

Anonymous said...

in any large event or celebration, they (gov't/authority) should always be prepared and planned for the worst, always. in america, the reason safety is very important is because people can sue the city, the gov't, business, etc for failure to at least warn people, educate people, etc, that they are doing it at their own risk, etc, and that if it weren't gov't intention to hurt them, then they are on their own when it comes to accidence, etc at their own responsibility. i think the only time gov't is truly responsible is if it were gov't's doing that cause harm to the public, such as not fixing the sidewalk, not fixing the potholes on the roads, not putting up signs at the bridge, building, etc... it goes with businesses, too. ever heard of "parking at your own risk", "not responsible for lost or stolen property,", etc, etc... people needed to be educated and understand, that's all! maybe next time, their will be a potential lawsuit if gov't failed to addressed all of these! of course, there are still a lot that cambodia can learn from, it probably won't be the first or the last, either. always be prepared, even in life, really!

and the thing i see in cambodia, too, is that way too many people depended too much on gov't for everything; it's almost like a tradition or culture thing, really. people were taught early to respect authority, respect the elderly, etc, etc; thus, sometimes, they failed to think for themselves. that's why i always encouraged people to be competitive, be smart, be aggressive and so forth. it's part of a modern world and life in general. i mean, you have to, or you'll lose out! so, people needed a lot of education form everybody. when it comes to education and knowledge, people shouldn't be selfish or greedy about it. share the thing that benefit society, benefity humanity, etc... people can should learn from lecture in school, churches, temples, or what have you! never stop learning, really, i don't care how old you are; learning is part of a life process; it doesn't stop when you finished school and so on..., ok!

Anonymous said...

people should be taught to know their role well, and not so much meddle in other's roles. yes, everyone of us in society has a role to play. i mean, given advice is one thing, but actual meddling should discouraged and should not be tolerated at all, you know!

Anonymous said...

* WHAT IF THE KOS PICH ISLAND IS INVESTED BY OTHER PARTY,SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEND TO THEM BY NOW!?!

Anonymous said...

12:35! werry hight moral dude!!!!
Hope you are ready when you face a real enemy!!!

Anonymous said...

3:40AM! it would took away long ago like Ranarith ot death like HO SOK!!!!! before it had chamce to start!

Anonymous said...

3:35 AM,

Can you clarify what you mean by "meddling" in this case? Are you equating the disscussion on the event of Diamond island as a middling into domestic affairs? Or are you refer to something else!

Majority of big business in Cambodia are co-own by the CPP party, thus, one can insure that the govt. will result the problem as quickly as possible. Just look at the event in Diamond Island - not event just minister defend. Hun Sen personally come out and declare that there is no body at fall!

If this happen in the US, the business owner is clearly responsible, but in this case the owner happen to be his daughter...so what the father will do ... use his power that people vote for him, and the very power of the people to silend them by throwing dolloars on these people head.

You ever heard in Cambodia now, that as long as you have money...you can event ask the Angel (teveda) to dance for you! This is the attitude from the new Khmer rich! Life is nothing and money is verything!

Anonymous said...

A person should learn to take responsible himself. You can't expect the government to babysit you on everything and you should not blame the government on everything either. How about John F. Kenny famous quote: "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

Think about it!

11:43 PM

Anonymous said...

I dont think Khmer in Cambodia can run the country mind are still behind. It got to be an outsider or other races. Most of Khmer in Cambodia dont know about anything around the world or even seen the outside world. If someone is from there run Cambodia, we will never compete with ours neighbor.

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Anonymous said...

that is why govt should send more young khmer overseas to learn in all fields to build khmer capacities. those farmers, 80% should at least be encouraged to finish high school. Not easy, but if khmer are to survive, no, choice, but must do it.

Anonymous said...

4:32 am,

Actually those government official are traveling to many others countries and see how others countries opperate. For example, Canada parliament as well as US congress and others countries had sponsored these law makers to observe the process, etc. And other Cambodian ministries have relationship with other countries as well. But the problem is that they just don't want to implement it! It is not that they don't know anything about the outside world or never attend international conferences,etc. It is more of a problems - if they implement the democratic laws, their self interest will be compromize, for example such as land law, tax law - specificely property tax, etc. They just want to use national resources for their own CPP and a few others that support the CPP in power to benefit (public property for private gain). Event the Buddhist monk will take side with the CPP. This is corrupt without limit, period!

Anonymous said...

yes, am always interested in debate about khmer practice of buddhism. only this life, next life, past life, nothing done to improvethis lot ? it seems khmer are resigned to this limited superficial practice. fatalism is strongly imbeded in khmer buddhism. current leaders see themselves as neak mean bon having done good deed in previous life , thus justofying their present high life- corrupt ? etc. and the poor/unfortunate /uneducated buy into this belief, big time, reinforced by the tmil tep vong's everlasting sermons.

Anonymous said...

Corrupt from the lay people to so call the living god, corrupt to the core value of Khmer buddhism.

5:33, I agreed with you! The way buddhism teaching in Cambodia - it allows the rich to justify the wealth that they take from others, and for the poor to accept their faith in the lowest range of the society and endue the hardship without questions!

I believe in Buddhist teaching, but I don't go to temples - just because I don't believe that those monks whether in Cambodia or abroad - I just don't believe in what they are preaching have any sificant value as of to what they are saying. I rather purchase buddhist's book from the book store to read instead.

Now you make me think, that even the Buddhist institution in Cambodia needs to be change. It needs to revolutionize the way how the buddhist institution distribute Buddha's teaching to all Khmer people. I also agreed with earlier blogger that all Khmer people need to have education - for at least high school! so that they can read, write, analysis situations and issues for themselves.

Cheer

Anonymous said...

Khmer will not hope to get back their land after 99 years.

Khmer haven't learned its own history, yuon leased Prey Nokor for 5 years, more than 300 years yuon still haven't give hack to khmer yet.

good luck khmer!

Anonymous said...

យើងត្រូវតែនាំគ្នានិយាយពីអំពើក្បត់ជាតិនឹងអំពើអាក្រក់
របស់មេដឹកនាំកម្ពុជា មានដូចជា ៖
ពួកអាឆ្កែកញ្ជះយួន ហ៊ុន សែន, ហេងសំ រិន, ជាស៊ីម, សុខ អាន, ហោ ណាំហុង, ឱម យិនទៀង, ចៀម យីប, វ៉ា គិម ហុង, ស ខេង, ងួន ញ៉ឹល ។ល។ និង ។ល។
និយាយហើយនិយាយទៀតដើម្បីអោយជាតិ និងអន្តរជាតិ
ដឹងឮ ទូទាំងពិភពលោក។

Anonymous said...

Responsibility and Accountability to whom? your mother? I embrace Individualism. Cover your own Ass Bitch.

Anonymous said...

6:25 AM,

Do you see "bitch" in this blog? What is the opposite of "bitch"? Have responsibility to the word you use in this blog.

Yes, I can accept your embrace of individuality, but at least have mercy for your mother...so that she wouldn't wast her fresh milk for a son like you! Have no accountability of what you are doing in this space!

Anonymous said...

Hi! KI.Team,

Thank you for having allowed me to participate in sharing comments.
But just noted recently,my comments somewhat have been omitted,ie At approx.5AM this morning@ Neatee Koun Khmer and some in recent past.

I do believe that my language were not abusive.


Could you please track it down,and let me know as if anything that I could improve circumstances.

Thank again.

Peasant

Anonymous said...

we're talking about leaders' responsibility, i believe. family is different, you raise your children the way you see fit.

anyway, someone aske about what meant by "meddling" in other people role. by this, i mean role in gov't, specifically. for example, if you work in the ministry of information, you don't go to the ministry of interior, etc to dictate to them what to do in their roles because role or job responsibility rest in each ministry of gov't, etc... that's what meant, as far as family meddling with their spouse or their children, etc, that's another topic altogether, really! remember we're talking about role and responsibility in gov't i.e. the leaders'.

Anonymous said...

Ok 7:33 am,

Let say that after 2013's national election, HS win the election again - what will it means to Khmer nation and her people? And how can Khmer citizen hold HS' govt. responsible and accountable to Khmer's natural resources as well as her people?

Koun Khmer said...

Dear Peasant,

I thank you for participating. Could you please write your comment again?

I did read your comment, and you did not use abusive language.

Thank you,

Koun Khmer

Koun Khmer said...

Dear 9:43 PM,

You are welcome. I am honored that I could be of service to our community and to my fellow Khmers.

Your humble friend,

Koun Khmer

Anonymous said...

Dear Koun Khmer,

I am really happy that you contribute your time and your knowledge to write these articles to share with our Koun Khmers. I hope we could learn from the Khmer scholar like you with a realizable sources that you include in your articles.

In addition, you had made the rights decision to delay the topic and pick up the topic that relate to the current issue such as the stompede situation that neither you, I or any of our bloggers expected this event to happen to our nation. As Mr. Sen claimed that it was a joint mistake and nobody at fall. Thus, your article on "responsibility and accountability" in this article, make all of us think and think deeply about the government role and the role of citizen. You are well pointed out that responsibility not only the government, but also the citizen themselves as well toward their nation.

Once again, thanks for you time with my humble and mutual respect!

9:43PM

Anonymous said...

Dear Peasant,

I did see your blog, but I didn't get a chance to read it yet. When I log on again, I didn't see it.

I hope you write again and share your though with us.

Thanks,

Anonymous said...

oh and make sure not to allow any gov't official to star in movie, ok! that's not official, really!