Wednesday, May 04, 2011

Case 003 and 004 heading to the dumpster, as Hun Xen ordered? U.N.justice committed in the KR Tribunal?

Meas Muth (L) and Theary Seng (R)
ECCC Co-Investigating Judges: Bandit You Bunleng (L) and Herr Doktor Siegfried Blunk (R)

03 May 2011
KI-Media

The Cambodia Daily reported in its 02 May edition that the way the ECCC is handling the announcement of the closure of the investigation of Case 003 – “at the close of business before a holiday weekend” – is consistent with the judges’ plan to dismiss this case in which as many as 100,000 victims were involved.

The Cambodia Daily also reported the opposition to the case by Chea Leang, the court’s Cambodian co-prosecutor and niece of Sok An – Hun Xen’s right hand man. In a confidential pleading, Chea Leang wrote that Sou Met and Meas Muth “worked under the orders of their superior, Son Sen. Moreover, Meas Mut and Sou Met did not have the power to order executions or torture or commit crimes against the victims because all decision to execute, torture or commit crimes were made by their superior. Therefore Sou Met and Meas Mut do not fall into the category of senior leaders or those most responsible.” On this issue, Chea Leang was in fact championing the Cambodian government’s position whose leader, Hun Xen, told Ban Ki-moon, the UN Secretary-general, during his visit to Cambodia that he does not want to see this case proceeding forward.

According to The Cambodia Daily, the UN side for Chea Leang is of the opposite view. Evidence gathered by Alex Bates, then senior assistant prosecutor, indicated that “at least 299 of [Sou] Met’s subordinates in Central Committee Division 502, which was based at the Phnom Penh airport, had been delivered in the hands of Duch.” Furthermore, in letters exchanged between Sou Met and Duch, Alex Bates accused Sou met of “directing the interrogation under torture of S-21 detainees, seeking to know whether they had made full ‘confessions’ and of compiling and referring lists of ‘traitors’ to the secret police for execution,” The Daily reported. In other letters sent to Duch, Sou Met personally implicated others as “enemy”.

Although Duch claimed that the letters were written by Son Sen under Sou Met’s name, nevertheless Alex Bates’ records showed that “Sou Met was ‘taking initiative’ to advance the policy of purge created by the military’s General Staff and the party.”

Stephen Heder and Brian Tittermore’s legal study also showed that both Meas Mut and Sou Met “had been made aware of Khmer Rouge policies of execution and bore responsibility for advancing them.”

With the large amounts of records and evidence gathered against Meas Muth and Sou Met, dismissing Case 003 “would be totally unjust,” Rob Hamill, a New Zealander who lost his brother to the Khmer Rouge secret police and who sought to join as civil party to Case 003, wrote The Daily. On her part, Theary Seng, a human rights activist who was the first person who applied to be a civil party to Case 003, said that “the closure of the case was ‘very disturbing’”.

With justice for almost 100,000 victims at stake, one has to wonder who is  "reckless " in this case: the person who filed to be a civil party to the case or a tribunal whose potential dismissal of the case would handsomely do the bidding of the Second Generation of Khmer Rouge Leaders?

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

The biggest criminal are those whom prevent the court from prosecuting war criminal Such as Ah Hun Sen

Anonymous said...

Theary Seng is a reckless, selfish, self-absorbed individual who could not care less for justice for the Khmer people.

Anonymous said...

If you want to know that weather ECCC or Khmer Rouge Trials will provide any justice to 1.7 million Khmer victims and their families just look at how CPP is related Indochina Federation formed by late Ho Chi Minh in 1930.

You will see that this ECCC has been playing a game on Cambodians victims.

You will see that why ECCC kept dragging on and on so far only one verdict from Duch.

All of those detained will life sentence without proper trial ( not allowed to talk much during this upcoming fake ECCC trials.

Anonymous said...

The real Angkar between 1975-1979 or Khmer Rouge consisted of 2 differences as fellow:

1. A group of Paris students .

2. A group of Khmer Viet Minh:

Angkar between 1975-1979 as fellow:
1. Pol Pot. ( a Paris student ).
2. Nuon Chea. ( former Thai Communist Party but in a Paris student groups ).
3. Ieng Sary. ( a Paris student , Khmer Kampuche-Krom ).
4. So Phim. ( Khmer Viet Minh ).
5. Son Sen ( a Paris student , Khmer Kampuchea-Krom ).
6. Ta Mok ( Ta Mok din not study in France but he was in a Paris student group ).

Note: 1. If you have a quick look you will see a group of Paris students more than Khmer Viet Mihn but the reality was Khmer Viet Minh had more troops ( Khmer Viet Minh troops like Heng Samrin , Chea ect… . than Pol Pot troops .

3. Khieu Samphan, Sihanouk ( personally I don’t like Sihanouk ) Hu Nim , Hou Yuon they are not Angkar ( Real Angkar coul make hightest decision between 1975-1979 ) these four fellows are norminal leaders ( only in name ) even Ieng Thirith was not Ankar but her husband Ieng Sary is.

So if you look at Khmer Rouge Trial or ECCC those being detained without trial ( except Duch ) are a group of Paris students and 3 out of 5 are not Angkar 1. Khieu Samphan, 2. Ieng Thirith, 3 Duch.
So one of many reasons why this fake ECCC try to trial 2 Angkar 1. Nuon Chea 2. Ieng Sary ( 2 of Paris students groups ) and let the real killer like Khmer Viet Minh like Heng Samrin , Chea Sim and many more escape from the justice.
So cases 003 and 004 will never happen under Hun Sen puppet regime.

Anonymous said...

Var Kim Hong does recognize that Cambodia, if compared to the colonial Service Geographique de l’Indochine scale map 1/100,000 and the 1985 delimitation treaty, will loses 9,000 hectares; and compared to U.S Army Mapping Service scale map 1/50,000 with the 1985 Treaty, would lose about 7,900 hectares to Vietnam. This statement was confirmed by Var Kim Hong to Mr. Touch Bora Esq through a telephone conversation on 30 August 2002 at 4:30 p.m. (Sydney time), which Mr. Touch Bora Esq wrote in his letter dated on 9 September 2002 sent to Sam Dach Ta Noroudom Sihanouk concerning over border affairs.
In fact, the loss is absolutely more than the 1000 square kilometers stated by MP Sam Rainsy in his statement, if we add the size of the historical water of 30000 square kilometers awarded to Vietnam under the 1982 Agreement which has been into affect and now already become under the full control of Vietnam. And this would not be the last if the equidistance principle be used to delimit the maritime boundary, Cambodia will lose an additional area of sea and seabed measuring at least 860 square nautical miles from the Brevie Line to the north, analyzed by Mr. Touch Bora Esq or another 10000 square kilometers confirmed by Mr. Sean Pengse, the President of the Cambodian Border Committee Worldwide, which exclusively include another Koh Poula Wai to Vietnam added to the previous lost islands- Koh Tral (Dao Phu Quoc) and Koh Poulo Panjang (Dao Thu Chu).

This is why sVar Kim Hong said in front of Students´s Movement for Democracy (SMD), and Sam Dach Ta Norodom Sihanouk on 22 Janaury 2000 during our audience with him concerning the border resolution with Vietnam that; “If we want peace, we must sacrifice our flesh to the tiger.” The truth is discovered now that, “Sacrifice the flesh to tiger actually means cutting our land to the Viet.” This word was clearly spoken out from his mouth and there were Sam Dach Ta as witness and 31 members.

We must condemn this Var Kim Hong for his role in helping the traitorous regime of Hun Sen.

Smart Khmer Girl Ms. Rattana Keo,

Anonymous said...

Koh Tral Island must not be forgotten

By Ms. Rattana Keo

Why do Koh Tral Island, known in Vietnam as Phu Quoc, a sea and land area covering proximately over 10,000 km2 [Note: the actual land size of Koh Tral itself is 574 square kilometres (222 sq miles)] have been lost to Vietnam by whose treaty? Why don’t Cambodia government be transparent and explain to Cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?

Cambodian armies are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 on the Thai border and what's about over 10,000km2 of Cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian armies you are decide the fate of your nation, Cambodian army as well as Cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?

Koh Tral Island, the sea and land area of over 10,000 square kilometres have been lost to Vietnam by the 1979 to 1985 treaties. The Cambodian army at front line as well as all Cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are Cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protecting a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group but disguising as protecting the Khmer nation?

The Cambodian army at front lines suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs, lack of foods, lack of nutrition and their families have no health care assistance, no securities after they died but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning system with message from young girls, have first class medical care from oversea medical treatments, they are billionaires, millionaires who sell out the country to be rich and make the Cambodian people suffer everyday.

Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that resulted in the loss over 10,000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why they are not being transparent and brave enough to inform all Cambodians and Cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't they include Koh Tral (Koh Tral size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen and bigger than Singapore [Note: Singapore's present land size is 704 km2 (271.8 sq mi)]) with heap of great natural resources, in the Cambodian education system?

Look at Hun Sen's families, relatives and friends- they are billionaires, millionaires. Where did they get the money from when we all just got out of war with empty hands [in 1979]? Hun Sen always say in his speeches that Cambodia had just risen up from the ashes of war, just got up from Year Zero with empty hands and how come they are billionaires, millionaires but 90% of innocent Cambodian people are so poor and struggling with their livelihood every day?

Smart Khmer girl Ms. Rattana Keo,

Anonymous said...

CPP who sell out Cambodia and all Cambodian people to Vietnam. That is why they hate Ms. Rattana Keo words, that just only say the true of what happen to Cambodia.

Vietnam are not even tried to take Cambodia slowly and slowly. why do we, all khmer people, are tired to talk about their evil action toward Cambodian people and Khmer nation.

Anonymous said...

why? created problems, 35 years passed by, my family also died during that regime, i already forgotten, i had put it behind, moved forward,,, in addition, our country has peace, let enjoy it..

theary seng, don't be personal attack, don't be revenged by losing your job as director.

Anonymous said...

Chea Leang wrote:
“Moreover, Meas Mut and Sou Met did not have the power to order executions or torture or commit crimes against the victims because all decision to execute, torture or commit crimes were made by their superior.”
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Are you kidding me?
For those of you who went through the KR regime like me, we know that just the villages’ chiefs alone had the power to make the decision for us to be killed. That was why there were so many deaths.
And now they point their fingers at the top echelons.
“To keep you is no gain, to kill is no lost.” Who said those words, mostly the ignorant villages’ chiefs of course.

Anonymous said...

6:46 PM
Maybe you don’t have family members killed by the KR. But if you have, just shut the fuck up and let Theary does the dirty work for you, ok big mouth.

Anonymous said...

Chea Leang! Fuck you!!!!

Anonymous said...

I believe that the winer is a king. Every countries work very hard to be a big brother, then they can do anything, but our king is a looser. If I was him, I cannot sleep well at all.

Anonymous said...

Which one of these Khmer Rouge(s) list below is a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison B32?

a) Pol Pot
b) Nuon Chea
c) Ta Mok 
d) Khieu Samphan 
e) Son Sen 
f) Kaing Guek Eav aka Samak Mith Duch
g) Ieng Sary 
h) Ieng Thearith
i) Chea Sim
j) Heng Samrin
k) Hor Namhong aka Samak Mith Yaem
l) Keat Chhon
m) Ouk Bunchhoeun
n) Sim Ka aka Samak Mith Muth
o) Hun Sen

Source:
DC-CAM
Document Center of Cambodia

Fact:
During the Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime;
There are 196 prisons.
There are 196 prison chiefs.
There are 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples killed by the Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime.

Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Pol Pot
Nuon Chea
Ieng Sary
Ta Mok
Khieu Samphan
Son Sen
Ieng Thearith
Kaing Guek Eav aka Samak Mith Duch
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong aka Samak Mith Yaem
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka aka Samak Mith Muth
Hun Sen...

Kaing Guek Eav is a prison chief of Toul Sleng prison S21.
Source:
DC-CAM
Document Center of Cambodia

The U.N.-backed Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC) must indict 195 other prison chiefs.

"I will not allow the U.N.-backed Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC) to indict more Khmer Rouge Regime leaders, I rather let the court (KRT ECCC) fail.  Indict more Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders will lead the country into a civil war."
Samak Mith Hun Sen
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leader

Samak Mith Hun Sen will not allow the U.N.-backed Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC) to indict more Khmer Rouge Regime leaders who is responsible for killing 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples.

Samak Mith Hun Sen threaten to turn Cambodia back into the Killing Fields all over again.

War with whom?
War with innocent Khmer peoples without weapon?

Once a Khmer Rouge, always a Khmer Rouge.

A good Khmer Rouge(s) is a dead Khmer Rouge(s).

Khmer Rouge(s) continue to kill innocent Khmer peoples.

Anonymous said...

Ms Theary Seang doesn't really want to take Ex Khmer Rough Hun Sen and his CPP group to KR Court of Justice at all. Why? We though Ms THeary Seang is very interesting in true justice for innocent blood of Cambodian people who murdered by KR and Hun Sen regime. Why? and Why? Ms Theary Seang! Why?

Are you just want to be famous like Rock Start in Khmer communities only???

Ms THeary Seang, You have too take Hun Sen and his CPP group to court of justice because they murdered a lot of Cambodian people.