Dear Khmer Democrat:
I read your May 5 post on KI-Media with great interest, querying whether the Oeun mentioned by Ben Kiernan in The Pol Pot Regime: Race, Power, and Genocide in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, 1975-79 (1996) the same as Ta An mentioned by me in Case 004?
Genocide Cham killer Oeun of Region 41 same as Case 004 Ta An?
The answer is NO – the Oeun mentioned by Kiernan as Ke Pauk’s brother-in-law is NOT the same as this Ta An (or Aon An) in ECCC Case 004. It’s a bit confusing as Kiernan mentioned that this brother-in-law Oeun became the Deputy Secretary of the Central Zone, while more recent research and information say that it was Ta An who was the Deputy to Ke Pauk, the Secretary of the Central Zone. This conflictual information only further underlines urgently the need for the ECCC co-investigating judges to do their work with integrity for historical clarity.
Ta An – Deputy Secretary of Central Zone, Secretary of Region 41
From my recent research and conversations, Ta An of Case 004, who originated from Kampong Chhnang of the new West Zone, was sent to replace Chor Chhan (alias Sreng) as Deputy Secretary of the Central Zone.
Chor Chhan was Secretary of Sector/Region 41 and member of the former North Zone Committee. When former North Zone Secretary Koy Thoun (alias Thuch, alias Khoun) was transferred to Phnom Penh immediately after 17 April 1975 to take charge of the Ministry of Commerce, Ke Pauk (his Deputy) was promoted to Zone Secretary, and Sreng became Ke Pauk's Deputy. Then, the former North Zone split into two—a new North Zone and Central Zone; Ke Pauk was Central Zone Secretary and Sreng continued as his Deputy. After the purge of Koy Thoun in 1977, Sreng was subsequently arrested and sent to S-21, interrogated and executed there. Ta An of Case 004 replaced Sreng as Deputy Secretary of Central Zone, as well Secretary of Sector/Region 41.
Oeun, Ke Pauk’s brother-in-law
There are two Oeuns mentioned by Kiernan: (i) Oeun who was the brother of Ke Pauk’s who served as Secretary of Region 42 toward the end of the Khmer Rouge regime. He survived the purges and only died several years ago by natural causes. This Oeun was deeply involved in the killing of the Cham Muslims in Region 42; (ii) another Oeun who was Chairman of Military Division 1 of the North Zone, and then after April 1975, his division moved to Phnom Penh to become Division 310, was executed at S-21 in 1977.
For further information on Case 004 Ta An, see 6 May 2011 articles by The Cambodia Daily, The Phnom Penh Post, consolidated at www.thearyseng.com.
Best,
Theary C. Seng
Phnom Penh, 6 May 2011
15 comments:
Ms. Teary Seng, I don't understan why are you still against Khmer Rouge - Khmre Rouge regime? Did you get million of dollars from any agencies and other sources to investage the Khmer Rouge case? You are lucky you survived from the Khmer Rouge regime and so do I. I was a Khmer Rouge soldier, and I still admitted that who I am, and I am A Khmer who saved Cambodia. Can you see where you are living now? ALL YOUN/VIETNAMESE every where in Cambodia. You must stop now and start to reunite with Khmers no matter whose. I am now just a police detive officer but I won't tell you where I am or my duty. So, pleasse stop about Khmer Rouge business, I am so sick of you.
Once again Ms. Theary Seng, all you do is writting book and complains about Khmer Rouges. Can you write other book or do somethings else to server our Country to make it looks better sinec you are so smartest and well educated and quired degrees from United States of America. I am so sick of you, every time when I see your face show on public and complaining, talking about Khmer Rouge. Yes! all you do is talking and complaining about Khmer Rouge case. You won't have any work to do beside 'Khmer Rouge case' and so you get funds from the sources.
Miss Seng,
Every day that all I hear from you is complaining about Ah An Ah Muy Ah Mauch, ah Tauch Ah Taach!
To me you are a selfish person! That what you do is serve your own interest" yourself and your family"
Don't you see Khmer is swallowing by Yuon
Please stop being selfish and find the way to help Khmer.
Ms. Seng,
I tell you what?
If you are a smart lawyer, and you realy want to ger your name in Khmer history book. You should build a case against Sihanouk.
Miss Séng Theary,
I would like to remind you that the CPP youn; there is a lot of Khmer rouge such as Hun Sen, Heng Samrin, Chea Sim, Hor nam Hong etc... Recently the supreme court of France judged that Hor 5 Hong is a Khmer Rouge and he committed crime against humanity at Beoung trabek. Seeing that you are interested to bring Khmer rouge to trial, for being fair, do you think you would bring Hor nam Hong and CPP gang to trial? Yes or NO, Please give us the reason through KI. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. we want to see your real talent as a lawyer with Hor Nam Hong.
"The good value of human being is based on the right action."
Bien à vous ma belle Theary!
Thank you 12:39AM.
A bunch of CPP member are ex Khmer Rouge. They killed Khmer like the one killed your daddy too.
I think you should build a case #5 for Hor5Hong.
12:10 AM and 12:33 AM,
Thanks! I agree with your comments, 12:39 AM go to hell, you just wanted to create problem Khmer and Khmer to hate forever. I was a Khmer Rouge and CPPs all KHmer rouges, you should reunite and corpoerate to fight YOUN/Vietnamese in Cambodia, this we would win the enemy.
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1:25AM,
I would like to leave that task to mademoiselle Séng Theary because she is already on the terrain to do the job. In the mean time, I would to see the ability of mademoiselle Séng Theary as an expert lawyer to dress up the Khmer Rouge case. Talking about the Khmer Rouge is about the Khmer politics. As we know that in Khmer politics there is the involvement from the Vietnam to swallow Cambodia. As you see, and all Khmer have known that Hor Nam Hong is Youn spy come to Cambodia in order to serve Youn strategy to swallow Cambodia including the killing field during the Khmer Rouge. That's why I would like to see Mademoiselle Séng Theary intension about Hor 5 Hong. Be honest, I am so curious about her, and I've often questioned what she is doing. For me that Khmer Rouge who did the atrocities manipulated by Youn spy cause from their ignorance and the lack of the education of rational spirituality. The lack of the education of the Khmer people came from the mistake of our leader. One of the worst leaders in Khmer history is SamdACHE NoroDUMB Sihanouk…talking about him makes me also about NoroDUMB Second skirt chaser Rannaridh…ANYWAY…
We live in the web, therefore, the cause and condition is the best way to look up thing the rational way.
from: 12:39AM
Take Theary to people court
បើរកយុត្តិធម៌មិនបានគ្រប់គ្រាន់ជូនជនរងគ្រោះ
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THEARY SENG.
You are a brave lady who work very hard to bring justice for Khmers's people.Your actions inside and outside Cambodia considering you a respectable lady, unlike some slaves who living outside the country who know only barking and beging to survive.These slaves who were victim of Khmer rouge and now they give reason to Khmer rouge, may be this race will vanish soon?
7:11Am,
If you are a real Khmer, tell me about Ah Youn Hypocrite towad Khmer nation.
I wait for you answer!
Hi 7:11 AM
Do you have to stoop so low to make your points?
There are people for.. and people against.., and you have to observe, listen and learn from all sides.
Those who speak against Ms. Seng including myself do not see her case is as necessary while Vietnamese are all over in Cambodia to complete their expansionism.
You don't read the comments I made regarding Ms. Seng's activities, either you read a few lines and made decisions I don't know, but I can assure that you can read English but you do not understand the messages.
This critical time is the time that Khmers must look for ways to help and support ONE MAN is Sam Rainsy to keep Khmers alive, it is not the time to run a persecution show upon those ignorant servant Khmer Rouge.
Ms. Seng and Kem Sokha both are exactly playing Hanoi's game.
11.42PM. Here I am 7:11AM
My answer to you that nowadays there are no more Real Khmers,because they are very expert fighting each others than their annemies.
Every country in this world have their own Hypocrite.
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