Thailand presents case on temple land today
30/05/2011
Bangkok Post
Thailand will tell the International Court of Justice today that the court has no jurisdiction to judge the borderline of countries in dispute such as itself and Cambodia.
This is a key part of the country's response to a request filed by Cambodia concerning the fate of land surrounding Preah Vihear temple on the border.
It will deliver the message at the United Nations' highest court in the Netherlands in a two-day hearing starting today.
Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said yesterday Thailand was ready to fight the case.
"The point is that it's unreasonable that the ICJ should grant an injunction as requested by Cambodia when Thailand had abided by the court's ruling [on Preah Vihear ownership] issued in 1962," he said.
In 1962, the court ruled that Preah Vihear temple is situated in Cambodia. Thailand complied with the ruling but argued that the verdict covered only the sandstone ruins while the area around it belonged to Thailand. Cambodia recently asked the ICJ to interpret its 1962 judgement to establish if the land in the temple's vicinity also belonged to it.
It also asked the court to order an immediate and unconditional withdrawal of Thai troops from the land surrounding the temple and to ban Thai military activity in the area.
Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya met the country's legal team, including foreign lawyers from France, Canada, and Australia, in the Hague yesterday to prepare evidence to back its statement to the court today.
Thai ambassador to the Hague, Virachai Plasai, will head the country's team at the ICJ.
Mr Kasit told ThaiPBS TV which is covering the issue in the Dutch city that the legal team would argue that the court had no authority to rule on boundary lines, which should remain out of bounds.
He said Cambodia had contradicted itself in its petition to the court since it had earlier accepted that the demarcation work of its boundary with Thailand had not been settled. Cambodia had signed a memorandum of understanding in 2000 to establish a joint boundary committee to solve the boundary dispute, said Mr Kasit.
In addition, Thailand and Cambodia have at least three joint memos drawn up under the Joint Boundary Commission about the development of the border demarcation negotiations.
Chavanond Intarakomalyasut, secretary to the foreign minister, said Thailand would inform the ICJ it had never encroached on Cambodian territory based on its map which was recognised internationally.
The two countries will deliver verbal statements to the court today and tomorrow.
At the ICJ today, Cambodia's legal team will deliver its statement in the morning session, while Thailand's legal team will speak in the evening.
Mr Virachai will be the first one to speak, followed by the three foreign lawyers. The court will question the legal teams of the two countries tomorrow.
It is expected that each side will take three to four hours to present its argument. The ICJ is expected to spend four to five months considering the case. Its verdict is expected early next year.
Mr Abhisit said support was building for Thailand's request to Unesco that it postpone considering Cambodia's management plan for Preah Vihear temple until the two countries settle their border dispute. "It's normal for Cambodia to oppose our [postponement] proposal. However, the decision belongs to the World Heritage Committee," he said.
A Unesco-organised meeting on Thursday and Friday ended in deadlock when Cambodia opposed Thailand's move for a postponement. The management plan has been placed on the agenda of the WHC's session on June 19-29 in Paris.
10 comments:
The Khmers must prepare for a long, long war that can last several generations to come.
Buddha willing, we shall prevail.
good for abhisit(Mark) teams, go ahead fight with ICJ.. they're going to kick your ass.. badly
your dream team, will suffer-badly, if try to play flip flop policy.
excuse me, but I have to laugh.
it's in the best interest of the Thai nation and its future that they send their ladyboy soldiers to southern Thailand and focus more on the Muslim insurgency.
The Thai can play dumb 49 years after the verdict....the decision was handed down 5 decades ago that the temple and the surrounding land belong to Cambodia...
Notable Thai politicians and historians already knew this...but it is world laughing stock to sort to this low cowardly act to use Cambodia as a scapegoat for Thai domestic politics and false nationalism.
Get over it, Thailand...move on and leave Cambodia alone...otherwise it will only cause more damage to Thailand's credibility in the international arena....
Charnvit Kasetsiri
EVIDENCE OF POLITICALLY-MOTIVATED EXTRAJUDICIAL EXECUTIONS AND KILLINGS OF FUNCINPEC LOYALISTS.
LIST OF INSTANCES OF EXTRAJUDICIAL EXECUTIONS during 1997 coup by PM Hun Sen. These people with their name list below were murdered by PM Hun Sen.
• Ho Sok, 45, Secretary of State at the Ministry of Interior and second ranking FUNCINPEC official in the Ministry of Interior.
• 2-3. Gen Chao Sambath, alias Ngov, Deputy-Chief of the Intelligence and Espionage Department, RCAF Supreme Command since 1993
• 4 and 5. Maj. Gen. Ly Seng Hong, Deputy-Chief of Staff, RCAF General Staff (second highest-ranking FUNCINPEC official in the RCAF General
• 6. Colonel Sok Vireak, Chief, Transmission Bureau, Army General Staff. A former KPNLF General Staff officer in charge of military training who joined Nhek Bun Chhay after the Paris Agreements. Status
• 7. Colonel Thlang Chang Sovannarith, Deputy Chief-of-Staff of the Fifth Military Region, RCAF General Staff
• 8. Colonel Hov Sambath, Deputy-chief of Military Training Bureau, RCAF General Staff
• 9. Lietenant Colonel Sao Sophal, 42, an officer of the First Bureau of the RCAF General Staff.
• 10. Navy First Lt. Thach Soeung, aged about 30, an ethnic Khmer from southern Vietnam, stationed at Dang Kaum Navy base on the eastern bank of the Tonle Sap.
• 11 to 14. Seng Phally, Lt. Col. Chao Keang, Chao Tea and Thong Vickika - security officers working under Gen. Chao Sambath.
• Seng Phally, alias Huot Phally, aged 25, single, a gendarme who worked as chief of the security team at the Pipoplok 2 Hotel/Casino
• Lt. Col. Chao Keang, aged about 25. He was an officer in the Research and Intelligence Bureau of Chao Sambath
• Chao Tea, 29, brother of Chao Keang, a security guard at the Regal Hotel/Casino. His body bore a bullet hole in the left side of the chest and in the right side of the stomach. He was also handcuffed and blindfolded
• Thong Vicchika, aged about 27-28, a body-guard of Chao Sambath and a security staff at the Regal Hotel/Casino.
• Dr. Seng Kim Ly, a military medical doctor
• Major Lak Ki, Head of Operations, Research and Intelligence, RCAF High Command
• Four unnamed body-guards of Nhek Bun Chhay were summarily executed after his office-cum-house in Somnang
• Major Lak Ki, Head of Operations, Research and Intelligence, RCAF High Command
• Pheap, a body-guard of Major Lak Ki, in his late twenties
• Dok Rany, 27, an officer and body-guard of Gen. Chao Sambath who worked at the Research and Intelligence Bureau
• Ros Huon, aged 23, Sopheap, aged 25, two alleged members of the Gendarmerie
• Dok Sokhun, alias Michael Senior, a Khmer-Canadian journalist who taught English at ACE Language School in Phnom Penh
• Major Aek Eng (CPP), Head of Administration of Phnom Penh Thmei police station
• At least four, and possibly up to 22 persons described as FUNCINPEC soldiers executed and cremated in Pich Nil on 9, 10 and 11 July 1997 by Military Region 3 soldiers. Status: Confirmed executions in at least 4 cases
• 34 to 36 (and possibly 45). On 17 July, at about noon time, the body of a soldier was witnessed floating near the bank of the Tone Bassac near the Watt Chum Leap, in the village of the same name, Rokakpong commune, Saang district, Kandal province. The body was headless and both hands were tied up behind the back with a kramma. It was dressed in dark olive military uniform
• 37 and 38. Two unidentified men, blindfolded and with their hands tied behind the back. Status: Confirmed executions
• Pheap, aged 33, a bodyguard of the First Prime Minister. Status: Confirmed execution.
• Sok Vanthorn, 21 and Sou Sal, two villagers from Ampeov village, Kompong Speu province. Status: Confirmed execution.
• Brig. Gen. Chea Rittichutt, a founding member of the Moulinaka movement and the Governor of Kep-Bokor
• Navy officer Meas Sarou, Deputy-director, First Bureau, Navy, based in Chrouy Changvar, and one of his body-guards, and a third person, a woman named Luch.
• Ung Sim, Second Deputy Governor, Kompong Speu province - missing since his arrest, reportedly near Pich Nil by CPP soldiers on 7 or 8 July 1997.
• Col. Sam Sarath, Deputy Chief-of-Staff, Third Military Region
• Put Som Ang, male, aged 42, a KNP activisit in Siem Reap province, and Sam Sophan, 38, an activist in Takeo province
• Major So Lay Sak and Major Chin Vannak, officers working in the Logisitics department of the RCAF General Staff
• Som Taing, Deputy Chief, Inspection Office, Provincial Governor's Office, Kompong Speu
• Chum Sarith, Chief, Criminal Bureau, Provincial Police, Sihanoukville
Forty-six bodies were brought in and dumped at the crematorium of a Phnom Penh pagoda between 5 and 9 July
In the case of Ho Sok (executed on 7 July, brought to Watt Lanka on 8 July); of Seng Phally, Chao Keang, Chao Tea and Thong Viccheka (executed on 5-6 July and brought by the police to Wat Unalom on the morning of 7 July - see cases number 13-16 above) and in the case of a fifth corpse which was brought to the same pagoda on the same morning, but which could not be identified, the police ordered that cremation of the bodies be conducted without question and without proper cremation permit.
Between 9 and 11 July, according to a variety of reliable corroborating accounts, the bodies of 4 and probably up to 22 soldiers were alleged to have been executed in Pich Nil and burned
Plus many and many more names with lose count that order and executed by Hun Sen and CPP.
[judicial review] 1962 ICJ judgment on the case of Preah Vihear
Dispute continues mainly because the ICJ verdict has not been fully read and understood, mainly in contemporary Thailand.
Cambodia is about to file ICJ for re-affirmation on the original judgment.
Thailand withholds formal denouncement on the judgment.
Merits of this judicial review.
- splitted votes among judges that�excuses the�sentimental denouncement of Siam (renamed Thailand of today)
- Siamese actions to acknowledge on French drawn ANNEX 1 MAP
- Consequent actions of Siam and Cambodia in aftermath of ICJ ruling
Source ; http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?sum=284&code=ct&p1=3&p2=3&case=45&k=46&p3=5
Summary of the Summary of the Judgment of 15 June 1962
CASE CONCERNING THE TEMPLE OF PREAH VIHEAR
(MERITS)
Cambodia is a fake neutral kingdom.
It is a province under Hun Sen governor and communist.
Thai knew well that Cambodia is under Vietnam control.
If Cambodia is free from Vietnam,
Thai will stop bothering Cambodia.
Vietnam must take back 6,000,000
Vietnamese immigrants,pull out
20,000 troops,and return all Khmer
under Sihanouk and Hun Sen back
to Cambodia.
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FUCK THAILADYBOYLAND..
LONG LIVE HUN SEN..
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