Friday, June 24, 2011

Suspects’ families mull trial

Senior Khmer Rouge cadres gather in this undated photo. Facing forward from the left: Pol Pot, Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary, Son Sen and Vorn Vet. The initial hearing in the trial of KR leaders Nuon Chea, Khieu Samphan, Ieng Sary and Ieng Thirith begins on Monday at the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia. (PHOTO COURTESY OF THE DOCUMENTATION CENTRE OF CAMBODIA)
Nuon Chea (right) and his wife, Ly Kimseng, visit Angkor Wat in this undated file photo. (Photo supplied)

So Socheat, Khieu Samphan's wife (Photo: AP)


Friday, 24 June 2011
Thet Sambath
The Phnom Penh Post
“I was with him at the time [that the Khmer Rouge were in power] – he had the right to welcome guests from overseas and offer them credentials, but had no power to decide anything ... I also want to know who killed Cambodians, but please don’t just make accusations against all people in the Khmer Rouge.” (sic!) - So Socheat, Khieu Samphan's wife

As the Khmer Rouge tribunal gears up for the initial hearing in its historic second case on Monday, the court appears to have made significant inroads with the Cambodian public.

A study released by the University of California-Berkeley School of Law’s Human Rights Centre earlier this month found that some 75 percent of respondents interviewed this past December reported being at least somewhat aware of the work of the court, compared with 61 percent in 2008.

A total of 81 percent said the court “will help promote national reconciliation”, a 14 percent increase from 2008.


While the so-called “substantive hearings” in the case – involving evidence and witness testimony – will not begin for several more months, the four planned days of hearings next week will be broadcast live across the Kingdom and will draw dozens of international media representatives.

Coverage of the hearings will likely be difficult for many in the country to avoid, but a certain group of Cambodians say they hope to do just that.

I do not see this court as being able to find justice for my husband,” said Ly Kimseng, 76, the wife of former Khmer Rouge Brother No 2 Nuon Chea. Her husband will be in the dock in Case 002 along with former KR head of state Khieu Samphan, foreign minister Ieng Sary and his wife, social action minister Ieng Thirith.

Ly Kimseng travels from her home in Pailin province once a month to visit Nuon Chea at the tribunal’s detention facility in Phnom Penh. But despite her frequent visits to the court compound, she says she has no interest in attending the trial.

“I was asked whether I will attend the court’s hearings against my husband, and I just told them that I don’t need to join it because it is unfair already and what they are doing is a kind of revenge,” she said. A guilty verdict, she added, appears already to be a foregone conclusion.

“I know they will just try to blame him and figure out how many years they can put him in prison,” she said. “What I am concerned about is his health, and to make money to travel to see him and buy food and fruit for him once a month.”

Nuon Chea’s daughter, 49-year-old Nuon Thoeun, says she too is “not interested” in the trial and will keep busy on her farm in Pailin.

“They will sentence him to many years in jail because they’ve wanted to do that for a long time,” she said, adding: “If they deeply research Khmer Rouge issues, my father will not be in prison any longer.”

The Iengs will of course be together in the courtroom, although their daughter, Ieng Vichida, said she was unsure whether she would attend the trial herself.

“I am so busy with my work right now,” said Ieng Vichida, who works at the Pailin provincial hospital. “I don’t know if I have time to attend the court hearings.”

Her brother-in-law, Seng Rorn, said this week that he too was undecided.

“I don’t know yet whether I will attend the court’s hearings against my father-in-law and mother-in-law – I will decide later,” he said, adding that Ieng Sary’s 1996 pardon from then-king Norodom

Sihanouk could affect the court’s attempts to prosecute the former KR foreign minister.

In a ruling earlier this year, the court’s Pre-Trial Chamber said this pardon related only to Ieng Sary’s 1979 conviction in absentia at the People’s Revolutionary Tribunal, convened shortly after the fall of the Khmer Rouge, and does not bar his prosecution in the present day. However, this ruling is not binding on the court’s Trial Chamber, and defence lawyers intend to raise the issue next week.

While it is unclear how much, if it all, any of the defendants will speak during the hearings next week, they have for the most part shown little inclination to cooperate with the court.

The exception has been Khieu Samphan, who, while declining to address the allegations against him in the indictment, has nonetheless agreed to “contribute to the work of justice by presenting his version of the facts at trial”, according to a recent defence filing.

Khieu Samphan’s wife, 59-year-old So Socheat, said she was prepared to attend the hearings in support of her husband, and that she hoped his claims of innocence would be vindicated at trial.

“I was with him at the time [that the Khmer Rouge were in power] – he had the right to welcome guests from overseas and offer them credentials, but had no power to decide anything,” she said.

“I also want to know who killed Cambodians, but please don’t just make accusations against all people in the Khmer Rouge.”

11 comments:

Son of a farmer said...

Perhaps, she has said nothing, but partly true!
Only unexpectedly Sick is SihanoukVarman is walking, laughing, and insulting free!

Anonymous said...

Sihanouk is an idiot king.

Anonymous said...

So Socheat, you must confessed that many people were killed and starved to death, and stop pretending you knew nothing about Pol Pot regime.

Anonymous said...

It was the Boi Doi (VN soldiers)disguised in Angkar.

It has so many of my friends that are still alive informed me that they heard the angkar spoke vietnamese in the Bamboo bushes (prey russey)at nigh to plan who they were going to kill next morning.

Anonymous said...

why people could be that ignorant and stupid, i don't get it, you know!

Anonymous said...

this whole war thing was crazy in the past! people then made such a big fuss about communism, etc, look now, they all turned back to capitalism, freedom, rights, etc! but back then, people made such a big deal of communism, etc... that was so crazy now that we looked back in time, really! all of it was so useless and unnecessary, really!

Anonymous said...

people are always act or do stupid thing when they were young, now they are older and wiser, they realized that were so useless and unnecessary and stupid, etc, you know!

Anonymous said...

This idiot may has killed people by himself. But his leadership has killed millions of people and he should be responsible. If he was wised enough during that time, he should resign in public in 1975 before all the killings taking place.
The same for people who are working for Hun Sen regime now. If they don't want to be accused of associating with this regime to transform Cambodia into a vassal of Vietnam, they should resign and work as a farmer. If they continue to work as minister, members of parliament of CPP, advisors of Hun Sen, heng samrin and chea sim, they will faced to the same fate in Khmer history. They will be shamed for all their shameful association in loosing Khmer lands.

Areak Prey

Anonymous said...

បានប្ដីដូចគេដូចអែងដែរ ទាស់តែអាប្ដីហ្នឹងជាប្ដីចំកួត ទើបបានជារស់រហេមរហាមរបៀបហ្នឹង ។មានចំណេះចេះដឹងប៉ុណ្នឹង មិនគួរជាទៅសំឡាប់គេអែង ឲ្យគេរងទុក្ខគ្រប់គ្នាមួយនគរសោះ ។​ឧិ !អាសំផនងអើយអាសំផន ម៉េចក៏អ្ហែងមិនចងកឬឲ្យងាប់ចុយម្រាយស្រឡាស់ទៅ អាឃាតករ ។

Anonymous said...

Hu Nim, Hou Youn and Khieu Samphan are good friedns and good men among other Khmer.

For those who see Khiev Samphan as an evil please do a proper research about Khieu Samphn for instance Khieu Samphan has no money in the local bank and oversea bank .

All I want say and see what happen in our Khmer society is try to see the truth and the truth is not every one is a killer for instance:

1. Not every single one of CPP is bad.

2. Not every single one of Khmer Viet Minh is bad.

3. Not every single one of Sam Rainsy Party is good.

4. Not every Khmer Rouge is a killer.

As 5:01 says he or she refer to Khieu Samphan 's wife So Socheat so poor បានប្ដីដូចគេដូចអែងដែរ ទាស់តែអាប្ដីហ្នឹងជាប្ដីចំកួត ទើបបានជារស់រហេមរហាមរបៀបហ្នឹង as I say above Khieu Sam has no money in local or Camabodian bank or oversea bank that why his wife So Socheat រស់រហេមរហាមរបៀបហ្នឹង .

But I respect whoever with that high profile has not committed corruption .

As far as I know Khieu Sam , Hu Nim and Hou Yuon hate corruption to their bone.

I respect you all.

Note: Sam Rainsy also personally uncorrupt. I am not Sam Rainsy Party.

Anonymous said...

12: 37pm, good point, i think every case i unique, nobody is perfect, however, the issue with the KR rule was that there were too extreme, too radical, thus they became blinded and somewhat ignorant in the way they conduct their leadership style. what were they thinking then? didn't they know that cambodia wasn't the only country on earth because they want the country and khmer to go back to the stone age way of life! that was so stupid! no wonder cambodia was weak then. i think future leaders of cambodiad should know something about the world and must have competitiveness in their thinking because needs to compete with others in the world; we can't be isolated and backward, you know! otherwise the neighboring countries will take advantage of us again like they all did during the dark ages era and during the KR in power, etc, really!