Monday, December 05, 2011

Evidential Hearings in Trial of Khmer Rouge Leaders Starts in Phnom Penh

December 05, 2011
Robert Carmichael | Phnom Penh
Voice of America

On Monday, the United Nations-backed tribunal investigating Cambodia's murderous Khmer Rouge movement began hearing evidence against three former leaders. The three accused in the long-awaited trial deny charges of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.

Monday's session was dominated by the Khmer Rouge's chief ideologue, Nuon Chea, the man known as Brother Number 2.

In the course of the morning and afternoon sessions, Nuon Chea, who was deputy to the late Khmer Rouge leader Pol Pot, lashed out at Vietnam as he has done consistently over the years.


He blames Cambodia's eastern neighbor, Vietnam, for the crimes with which he and the other defendants are charged. He says people are wrong to accuse the Khmer Rouge.

“Everything was under the control of Vietnam, from the Hanoi headquarters, from the Ho Chi Minh headquarters," said Nuon Chea. "So these crimes; war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide were not [by] Cambodian people, it was Vietnam who killed Cambodians.”

It was familiar rhetoric from a man who continues to deny personal responsibility for the policies that cost the lives of as many as 2.2-million people or around one in four of Cambodia's population.

Other than blaming Vietnam and so-called “bad elements” in the revolution that took place in the 1960s and 1970s, Nuon Chea also told the court of his political awakening as a young man living under colonial rule two decades earlier.

“When I was young I lived under the French colony," he added. "I witnessed with my own eyes the mistreatment of the French toward Cambodian people. People were beaten, arrested and imprisoned and I also witnessed the rich mistreated other people. Treated them as slaves.”

He says those injustices motivated his decision.

Nuon Chea says that he only understood Vietnam's designs on Cambodia when he was studying in Hanoi in the early 1950s. He says it was then that he realized that Vietnam wanted to control Cambodia.

“I was so disappointed to hear that, because I was fighting very hard against the French for independence, but what would be independence under the control of another country?” he said.

Nuon Chea was the only defendant to address the court on Monday. The former head of state Khieu Samphan will speak later, once the tribunal has finished hearing from Nuon Chea.

The third defendant, former foreign minister Ieng Sary, has said he will not testify.

Given the complexity of the case, the age of the defendants, who are all in their 80s, and their health, the tribunal has divided it into a series of smaller trials.

That means it can hand down judgments as it proceeds and reduces the risk that one or more of the defendants could die without a ruling being issued, as happened at the trial of the former Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic.

This first mini-trial will examine the alleged crimes against humanity in the forced movement of people.

That refers to two events in 1975, the year Khmer Rouge took control of Cambodia and drove everyone out of the towns and cities. Later that year, they forced hundreds of thousands of people to move across the country into work camps.

But it appears likely that Nuon Chea will continue to blame others for those deaths.

“I do not want the next generation to misunderstand the history," he said. "I do not want them to think that the KR are bad people, are criminals. Nothing is true about that.”

This first mini-trial is expected to take around two years. Further mini-trials, should they happen, will deal with the other charges; Genocide, war crimes and the other crimes against humanity.

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Vietnam's bad intention toward Cambodia will be unmasked by the international communities.

We need to take this Cambodia’s land thief, Vietnam, to the international court of justice; otherwise Vietnam will keep creating turmoil in Cambodia.

After 1989, did Vietnam truly withdraw all of its troops back to Vietnam?

Did Vietnam comply with the 1991 Paris peace accord?

Millions of illegal and legal Vietnamese have been residing inside Cambodia after Vietnam’s invasion in January 1979, causing extreme concerns amongst Khmer people about the prospect that Cambodia would be the second Kampuchea Krom (the current southern part of Vietnam).

How much Khmer natural resource has Vietnam destroyed after its invasion in January 1979?

The killings during the Pol Pot's era were committed by the Khmer rouge, the Khmer Vietminh, etc.
Notice that the Khmer Vietminh were created and brainwashed by Vietnam to make Khmers fight with Khmers, to make Khmers kill each others.

How about the K5 project, which killed hundreds of thousands of Khmer people in the 80's? This K5 scheme was totally orchestrated by Vietnam.

Vietnam must pay for this enormous K5 project crime. We need to take Vietnam to the international court about this K5 issue regarding Vietnam’s catastrophic action in Cambodia. Vietnam’s current dominance in Cambodia also contributes to the present majority of Khmer people’s misery.

Anonymous said...

I was suffering a terrible life experience during 1975 to 1979 like most Khmer. However, I do not disregard Nuon Chea's theory. I believe he is correct on the issue of Vietnam's intent to control Cambodia. I believe that we, the Khmer people, should investigate much more on Yuon's ambitions and its attempt to establish hegemony on us, Khmer.

Anonymous said...

In the last few centuries, Khmer people have suffered heavily because of Vietnam's ambition trying to swallow Cambodia.

In order to make its goal materialize, Vietnam has initiated all kind of trouble to Cambodia.

For example, in the last 50 years, which event that Khmer people suffered without Vietnam's involvement? If Vietnam is not in the front scene, Vietnam would stay behind the scene to create turbulence in Cambodia..

So, to combat this evil nation Vietnam, we must strengthen our morale and must find a way to provide the proof to the international communities, especially the International Court of Justice about Vietnam's criminal activities against Khmer people, making Vietnam accountable for its ill acts.

It is imperative that our educated people gather the necessary information and find a way to bring Vietnam to face justice.
For instance, the K5 project which imposed by Vietnam had killed hundreds of thousands of Khmer people. It is a typical case that we should use as the first concrete step to make Vietnam pay for its evil deeds.

Vietnam has done horrible things to Khmer people, but we have never done anything to make Vietnam pay. That is why Vietnam kept doing bad thing to Cambodian people and currently implementing its colonization on Cambodia.

Anonymous said...

Nuon Chea is right-
what happens in Cambodia is due to
Yuon. Yuon kills Khmer at all time.
you are a nationalist, Mr. Nuon Chea.

Anonymous said...

the KR society were consisted of igorant, illiterate,uneducated, primitive people. sort of like in the olden day, going before civilization and rules and law, etc, when kings and queens ruled over an indigenous population of absolute power over the subjects. it was like like. you just do what the kings and queens say, you are born that way, so it was your fate, your destiny, just do what the kings and queens tell you. it was like that type of society under the KR rule, you know!

Anonymous said...

what happened in cambodia during the KR regime is nothing new that the world hasn't experienced already during the long history of the world. the question is why the world allowed cambodia to carry on like in the dark ages era? why? why did the world do something to stop or prevent that from happening again?

Anonymous said...

it is ok to be nationalistic, however, don't be an igorant nationalistic, instead be an educated nationalistic, ok! there's a difference between an educated nationalistic and an ignorant nationalistic, you know! i think noun chea fits the latter!

Anonymous said...

are khmer people that stupid to let viet/youn control or dictate or manipulate them? who is stupid khmer or youn in this case? or is it just fear, lame excuses, etc? the american sociologist, sigmoid freud once wrote: "all fear is wish and all wish is fear." now, think about this meaning for a second! analyze it as it is deep in philosophical meaning, you know!

Anonymous said...

3:23 AM

To answer your question. the simple solution is the world does not care about Cambodia.

Think of Cambodia as a crippled child. the crippled child cannot do anything. it is not expected of the crippled child. therefore, the crippled has no ambitions or goal.
the only thing the crippled child can do is beg and live off others, and when they dont get what they want, they blame others. the crippled child has the mentality of a dark age civilization, while the world moves up, the crippled child stay back waiting for the flying pig.

Anonymous said...

The real cause of why Khmers keep fighting with Khmers.

First, Khmer people have to know this one fact first:
- The United Nations planned to make a trip to Cambodia on January 15th 1979 to check the Khmer Rouge.
_ Vietnam knew about this trip in advance, so Vietnam made a full scale attack on Cambodia to stop the United Nations from monitoring the Khmer Rouge.
- As we all know Khmer Vietminh (Yuon's brainwashed students) committed most of the killings during the Pol Pot's era.

By invading Cambodia, Vietnam was able to put an ignorant, uneducated person named Hun Sen in charge of the country.

Because Hun Sen is Vietnam's slave, he has served only Vietnam's interest. That made Khmer people so mad. That why we all see like Khmers always fight with Khmers

Now you can see, WHO MADE KHMERS FIGHT WITH KHMERS?
It is time for ALL OF US to understand Vietnam's tricks. This Devil Vietnam is the root cause of Khmers fight with Khmers.

Anonymous said...

The past is history...The winner always makes and rewrites history...

We, Viet, have and is doing just that...and there is nothing you dumb Khmer can do about it! What was Khmer's is now Viet's...and it remains that way for all of you dumb khmer's life time

Let me tell you something else:

GOD already knows, dumb Khmer is helpless. We, Viet, are already controlling Viet-Cambodia from top to bottom, from the Senate to the farm land...

Hun Sen will be irrelevant in the very near future and there will be more and brighter Viet-Khmer/Khmer-Viet smarter ones to lead Viet-Cambodia...

Viet is everywhere in Viet-Cambodia from farmer to technician, from nurse to doctor, from firefighter to engineer, from rubber plantation owner/worker to Hun Sen's political advisor and bodyguards including Angkor Wat's owner...You all name it and Viet is there...Khmer doesn't do squat besides getting addicted to Viet's ass in Viet-Cambodia, even foreigners are enjoying it nicely and quietly too...

Once again, whether or not all you dumb Khmer surrender yourselves to Viet, Khmer is now deep-rooted Viet, and irreversibly so already.

Hun Sen is just a dumb Viet-Khmer that can be disposed of at anytime at just a blink of an eye!

Challenge me if all of you dumb Khmer can. We have millions of us (legally the majority thanks to that dumb Hun Sen) that will vote for Viet-Khmer candidate legally and democratically forever, even the outside world would support and agree and as a matter of factly, there is not much the outside world can do about it...

How Sam Raingsy and/or any of your worthless so-called dumb heroe(s) including the stupid dumb king Sihanouk of yours that just wants to reign and rule plan to win Cambodia back? The Federation of Indochina under Viet's protectorate is here to stay on this planet earth for real. How do all of you dumb Khmer think or plan to de-vietnamize it???

KRT is just a show to entertain the world. We, Viet, are that good and smart.

Can Khmer put up the second Killing fields to get rid of millions of legal Viet-Khmer citizen now like we, Viet, did?

Okay you dumb Khmer - put it up or shut up while we, Viet, are domesticating you for the bright future of the Federation of Indochina!

It's all too late for you dumb Khmer already!!!

Ms. Soap

P.s Think about how all of our Viet-Khmer/Khmer-Viet offsprings/Half-breeds would look beautifully and be smart like in our Federation of Indochina???

តើខ្មែរអាចសំឡាប់ប្រជាជន យួន ខ្មែរ រាប់លាន
អ្នកបានដូចដែល វៀត ធ្វើនោះទេ?

ស្ដាប់ឮទេខ្មែរ ល្ងង់ខ្លៅ???

Once again, can Khmer put up the second Killing Field to get rid of millions of legal Viet-Khmer citizen now like we, Viet, did?

Eest-ce que vous m'entendez les ignorants Khmers?

Juste Pour me répéter:

Peut Khmer créer un deuxième «Killing Field» pour se débarasser des millions de Viet-Khmer qui sont maintenant les habitants légaux du Viet-Cambodge comme nous, les Viets, avions fait?

KI-Media is yesterday news and ought to shut down for good or better yet, come kiss our Viet's ass now!

Our Viet's ass (80 millions) is resource #1. We defeated the French and the Americans just with our ass. We have suicidal commandoes to win the war. What do you dum Khmer have? We, Viet, can let loose another million of our new fresh ass into Viet-Khmer shortly...as per Hun Sen's agreement just to let him rule...

What can all of you dumb Khmer do to stop it?

Qu'est-ce-que vous allez faire, les ignorants Khmers?

តើខ្មែរល្ងង់ខ្លៅឯងធ្វើអីកើតទៅ ក្រៅពីធ្វើខ្ញុំយួន!

Anonymous said...

Evidentially, there is no sign of intellegence at all here on KI-Media...

P. from Long Beach

Anonymous said...

P. from Long Beach = Poop from Long Beach.

Shut the fuck up if you cannot help.

Anonymous said...

Theary C. Seng ,

Keep on going , your dart game really work , it make :

1. Khmer hate Khmer.

2. Khmer revenge Khmer.

3. Khmer continue to kill Khmer.

4. And soon Cambodia will be part of Vietnam because Nuon Chea, and Khieu Samphan all in ECCC and soon will face lives sentences.

Anonymous said...

you don't understand, it's called justice, ok! you think the stupid KR leaders can just do what they want and then get away with it? you must be dreaming, you know!

Anonymous said...

the KR was so ignorant and uneducated and illiterate people, you know! if vietcong/youn was stupid, the KR was dumb!

Anonymous said...

DUMB, VIETCONGS/VIETNAMS, YOUR SMART IN THE BAD WAYS BY KILLING KHMERS PEOPLE AND TAKE OVER THEIR LANDS AND COUNTY ETC. EVEN IN AMERICA, WHEN YOU (DUMB VIETCONGS), DO SOMETHING WRONGS.
1. YOU TELLING AMERICANS PEOPLE, YOU ARE KHMER/CAMBODIAN.
2 WHEN YOU (DUMB VIETCONGS) DO SOMETHING GOOD, YOU TELLING AMERICANS
PEOPLE, YOU ARE VIETNAMESE OR CHINESE.

DON'T LOOKS DOWN ON KHMERS PEOPLE AS YOU ARE SO DUMB TOO.


AND THE WORLD IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE NOW, MAYBE YOUR (DUMB EVILS VIETCONGS) GO TO HELL SOON.

Anonymous said...

To Male Hyena Soap,

Anonymous said...
DUMB, VIETCONGS/VIETNAMS, YOUR SMART IN THE BAD WAYS BY KILLING KHMERS PEOPLE AND TAKE OVER THEIR LANDS AND COUNTY ETC. EVEN IN AMERICA, WHEN YOU (DUMB VIETCONGS), DO SOMETHING WRONGS.
1. YOU TELL AMERICANS PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE KHMER/CAMBODIAN.
2 WHEN YOU (DUMB VIETCONGS) DO SOMETHING GOOD, YOU TELL AMERICAN
PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE VIETNAMESE OR CHINESE.

DON'T LOOK DOWN ON KHMER PEOPLE AS YOU ARE DUMBER THAN KHMER.


AND THE WORLD IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE NOW, MAYBE YOUR (DUMB EVILS VIETCONGS) GO TO HELL SOON.

Anonymous said...

vietcong/youn used the stupid KR to keep cambodia's population small so they can control and steal from us as a weak, small country. you see, the KR leaders were educated in vietcong country and noun chea was educated in siem country, so we can see their true intention and ill wishes toward cambodia and khmer people. the world must know the truth behind the killing of khmer people under the stupid KR regime from 1975 to 1979. siem and youn are evil people against cambodia and khmer people. they both were jealous and hated khmer people so they want cambodia to have small population than they are so they can control cambodia economically. they are evilly clever by hurting khmer people and cambodia, you know! khmer people should tell everything to the world community from now on. stop keeping everything happened to cambodia a secret anymore, ok! tell and educate the entire world to know cambodia better. what vietcong/youn and siem thugs did to cambodia and khmer people, khmer people have to retaliate and do it back to them so the entire world can understand and know cambodia and khmer people better. god bless cambodia and khmer people.