Visitors attend a Case 002 hearing at the Khmer Rouge tribunal on the outskirts of Phnom Penh yesterday. (Photo by: Heng Chivoan) |
Tuesday, 06 December 2011
Bridget Di Certo
The Phnom Penh Post
On the first day of evidence, Nuon Chea, one-time chief ideologue of the Khmer Rouge, told judges hearing the landmark case against him that he understood the numerous charges he faced, but only managed to recount them in vague fashion as “war crimes . . . and other wars . . . and crimes against humanity, perhaps”.
Minus his trademark dark glasses and woollen beanie, “Brother Number 2” then listened as Khmer Rouge tribunal Presiding Judge Nil Nonn ran down a litany of brutal crimes with which he is charged: “Crimes against humanity – including murder, extermination, enslavement, forced transfer, imprisonment, torture, rape, persecution on political or rac-ial grounds . . . genocide . . . grave breaches of Geneva Conventions”.
Denouncing the accusations as “not correct and not right”, Nuon Chea continued to use his time on the stand to shape his version of history leading up to the violence and horror of the Khmer Rouge regime. The villain was a familiar one.
“It was Vietnam who killed Cambodians,” Nuon Chea said. “I don’t want people to think the Khmer Rouge are bad people or criminals. They are nationalists who wanted to liberate the country from Vietnam.”
During opening statements two weeks ago, Nuon Chea likened Vietnam to a python trying to strangle the young deer of Cambodia in order to consume it.
Yesterday, New Zealand Trial Chamber Judge Silvia Cartwright questioned the octogenarian for nearly two hours on the beginnings of the Communist Party of Kampuchea, which held bloody reign over Cambodia from 1975 to 1979.
“It was the Vietnamese who set up and controlled the first Indochina Communist Party,” Nuon Chea said. “Cambodian people wanted to free ourselves from the control of Vietnam. Vietnam was really, really hated by Cambodians.
“I have to speak frankly because I believe that this court wants to find justice for the younger generation. And I want the younger generation to know who are our real enemies and who are our real friends.”
Cartwright, who led all the questioning yesterday, pointed out that despite Nuon Chea’s anti-Vietnamese sentiment, he had trained in Vietnam from 1951 to 1953. “I was lured,” was the elderly accused’s response.
Documentation Centre of Cambodia director Youk Chhang said the alleged former leader’s testimony showed he was “blind and mentally blocked”.
“In July, 1975, the Khmer Rouge leaders received their first foreign delegation – and it was the Vietnamese,” Youk Chhang said yesterday.
“[Nuon Chea] has failed to see that his regime sacrificed nearly two million lives, but defends this as party policy against Vietnam invasion.”
Nuon Chea also testified yesterday that Tou Samouth, the original Communist Party chief who was replaced by Pol Pot, was interrogated, tortured and eventually executed by soldiers of the US-backed Lon Nol regime.
However, his testimony of the events surrounding Tou Samouth’s disappearance were disparate from the account he gave Post journalist Teth Sambath during a series of interviews in 2006 and 2007.
Tou Samouth mysteriously disappeared in 1962 and hard evidence of his fate has never been revealed, although conspiracy theories abound.
One popular theory is that of historian Ben Kiernan, who believed Pol Pot himself killed Tou Samouth as part of a takeover plot.
15 comments:
Every single word Nuon Chea and Khieu Samphan say about yuon’s ambition , you plan to swallow Khmer and Lao is correct.
I support you 2 from the bottom of my heart for your last fihting against yuon Hanoi in this Hanoi ECCC.
they weren't bad, but they were really stupid for killing their own people for sure! and under their rule, look what happened to cambodia e.g. stun growth in everything from small population to primitive economy, etc... they were real stupid, evil, ignorant, uneducated, living in the dark hole, etc, etc, you name it! khmer people and cambodia stop being stupid like those stupid KR leaders, ok! wake up, khmer people, learn about the world and learn from the world, be smart and clever and help protect and promote our country cambodia, our khmer identity, our khmer ways, etc, etc, ok! god bless cambodia and our khmer people and citizens.
Nuon Chea and Khieu Samphan
Nuon Chea and Khieu Samphan know very well that they will convicted anf face lives setences because this ECC has been controled by yuon Hanoi,and always try to shut them up from speaking espescially Chea Leang and unneutraul Nil Nonn.
people leaders wanted to keep khmer population smaller than vietcong and siem, so those countries to pick on a small and weak country! i want khmer population to grow to 40 millions plus people of khmer race. forget small population when you have viet/youn and siem next to our country like this, ok! we have to compete with these two neighboring countries, period! no ifs or buts about that, you know! god bless cambodia.
Khmer Rouge and Khmer Viet Minh,
Half of Khmer Rouge between 1975-1979 were former Khmer Viet Minh who went to Hanoi after Geneva conference and were trained in Hanoi and left Hanoi for Cambodia after 1970s and joined the Khmer Rouge fihters and became KR leaders between 1975-1979 as follow:
1. Heng Samrin.
2. Chea Sim.
3. So Phim.
4. Keo Meas.
5. Rhos Nhim.
6. Nisaran and many more.
Above only some of fromer Khmer Viet Minh who worked alongside with Pol Pot between 1975-1979
So Phim secretary in Eastern zone and his in law Rhos Nhim in Batambang and Pursat between 1975-1979.
cambodia should start sending our bright students to study in america's colleges and universities for a change! stop sending your children to study in viet/youn country and siem country. look at noun chea and other khmer vietminh studied in vietcong country, they all become the stupid KR leaders that caused destruction to cambodia and killing khmer people under that rule. i think khmer people are better off by studying in america. yes, believer it or not, america is the best in the world, i don't care what others are saying bad things about america. i want khmer people to study in america and bring back the american knowledge back to cambodia so we can help all khmer people and cambodia to develop and better service our people and our country of cambodia. forget vietcong education or even siem education. these two neighboring countries only want to see cambodia lack behind them in both population and economic growth, etc... so don't send you r children to study in youn country and even siem country for that matter. learn from our tragic history and improve or reform our way on thinking, etc, ok!
why the KR regime liked to put stupid people in charge of cambodia? why? they must be ignorant people!
DUMB, VIETCONGS/VIETNAMS, YOUR SMART IN THE BAD WAYS BY KILLING KHMERS PEOPLE AND TAKE OVER THEIR LANDS AND COUNTY ETC. EVEN IN AMERICA, WHEN YOU (DUMB VIETCONGS), DO SOMETHING WRONGS.
1. YOU TELLING AMERICANS PEOPLE, YOU ARE KHMER/CAMBODIAN.
2 WHEN YOU (DUMB VIETCONGS) DO SOMETHING GOOD, YOU TELLING AMERICANS
PEOPLE, YOU ARE VIETNAMESE OR CHINESE.
DON'T LOOKS DOWN ON KHMERS PEOPLE AS YOU ARE SO DUMB TOO.
AND THE WORLD IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE NOW, MAYBE YOUR (DUMB EVILS VIETCONGS) GO TO HELL SOON.
Nguyen Thach Son
Nguyen Thach Son?
Who was Nguyen Thack Son.
Nguyen Thack Son was top military leader of Yuon Viet Minh and Khmer Viet Minh who fought against French colony in Cambodia between 1946-1954.
But to the Khmer public they only knew the leader of of Khmer Viet Minh or Khmer Issarak are:
1. Son Ngoc Minh or Achar Mean.
2. Tou Samouth.
3. Sieu Heng.
4. And other .
Above were Khmer Viet Minh leaders only in name the real one was Nguyen Thack Son who knew Camoboda hight and low as the real top Khmer Viet Minh and yuon Viet Minh in Cambodia, under the old name of CPP, Khmer People's Revolutionary Party .
So what Nuon Chea says is 1000% correct in term of Khmer real history.
Nguyen Thach Son.
Nguyen Thach Son was the real leader of CPP between 1946-1954, Son Ngoc Minh or Achar Mean only the leader of CPP ( Khmer People's Revolutianry Party in 1951 in name only.
Thank you Om Nuon Chea for bringing this,Nguyen Thack Son name for Khmer next generation to this mysterious name.
Note: Nguyen Thach knew Cambodia hight and low as a top yuon Viet Minh and Khmer Viet Minh fighter between 1946-1954 in Cambodia.
Vietnam's bad intention toward Cambodia will be unmasked by the international communities.
We need to take this Cambodia’s land thief, Vietnam, to the international court of justice; otherwise Vietnam will keep creating turmoil in Cambodia.
After 1989, did Vietnam truly withdraw all of its troops back to Vietnam?
Did Vietnam comply with the 1991 Paris peace accord?
Millions of illegal and legal Vietnamese have been residing inside Cambodia after Vietnam’s invasion in January 1979, causing extreme concerns amongst Khmer people about the prospect that Cambodia would be the second Kampuchea Krom (the current southern part of Vietnam).
How much Khmer natural resource has Vietnam destroyed after its invasion in January 1979?
The killings during the Pol Pot's era were committed by the Khmer rouge, the Khmer Vietminh, etc.
Notice that the Khmer Vietminh were created and brainwashed by Vietnam to make Khmers fight with Khmers, to make Khmers kill each others.
How about the K5 project, which killed hundreds of thousands of Khmer people in the 80's? This K5 scheme was totally orchestrated by Vietnam.
Vietnam must pay for this enormous K5 project crime. We need to take Vietnam to the international court about this K5 issue regarding Vietnam’s catastrophic action in Cambodia. Vietnam’s current dominance in Cambodia also contributes to the present majority of Khmer people’s misery.
In the last few centuries, Khmer people have suffered heavily because of Vietnam's ambition trying to swallow Cambodia.
In order to make its goal materialize, Vietnam has initiated all kinds of trouble to Cambodia.
For example, in the last 50 years, which event that Khmer people suffered without Vietnam's involvement? If Vietnam is not in the front scene, Vietnam would stay behind the scene to create turbulence in Cambodia..
So, to combat this evil nation Vietnam, we must strengthen our morale and must find a way to provide the proof to the international communities, especially the International Court of Justice about Vietnam's criminal activities against Khmer people, making Vietnam accountable for its ill acts.
It is imperative that our educated people gather the necessary information and find a way to bring Vietnam to face justice.
For instance, the K5 project which imposed by Vietnam had killed hundreds of thousands of Khmer people. It is a typical case that we should use as the first concrete step to make Vietnam pay for its evil deeds.
Vietnam has done horrible things to Khmer people, but we have never done anything to make Vietnam pay. That is why Vietnam kept doing bad thing to Cambodian people and currently implementing its colonization of Cambodia.
3:13 PM,
I agree with you, yuon must be brought to the Interantional Court of Justice along with Hun Sen.
The Communist Party of Kampuchea.
( I once have posted this on KI-Media last month ).
KhmerRouge or Communist Party of Kampuchea was a combination of Khmer Viet Minh and and a group of Paris students group created in 1960 by 3 figures to be indepedent off yuon Communist party of Ho Chi Minh but tried to reamin to be friend with Ho Chi Minh ( The Indochinese Communist Party ) as follow:
1. Tou Samouth.
2. Nuon Chea.
3. Pol Pot.
After 1954 Geneva conference about 1000 of former Khmer Viet Minh fighters went to Hanoi with Son Ngoc Minh or also known as Achar Mean included Pen Sovann .
Around 4000 stayed in Cambodia and most of these former Khmer Viet Minh fighters became the solders of Communist Party of Kampuchea through Tou Samouth , Keo Meas, So Phim and Rhos Nhim.
Nuon Chea played important role in joining other former Issarak like Ke Pok , Ta Mok. For Pol Pot from the begining ( 1960 ) as a member of Central committee of Comunsit Party after Tou Samouth, and Nuon Chea , Pol Pot only had a handfull of his own Khmer Rouge fighter but Pol Pot solders number had increased rapidly after 1970s. So Khmer
KRT is just a comical show!!!
The past is history...The winner always makes and rewrites history...
We, Viet, have been doing just that...and there is nothing you dumb Khmer can do about it! What was Khmer's is now Viet's...and it remains that way for all of you dumb khmer's life time
Let me tell you something else:
GOD already knows, dumb Khmer is helpless. We, Viet, are already controlling Viet-Cambodia from top to bottom, from the Senate to the farm land...
Hun Sen will be irrelevant in the very near future and there will be more and brighter Viet-Khmer/Khmer-Viet smarter ones to lead Viet-Cambodia...
Viet is everywhere in Viet-Cambodia from farmer to technician, from nurse to doctor, from firefighter to engineer, from rubber plantation owner/worker to Hun Sen's political advisor and bodyguards including Angkor Wat's owner...You all name it and Viet is there...Khmer doesn't do squat besides getting addicted to Viet's ass in Viet-Cambodia, even foreigners are enjoying it nicely and quietly too...
Once again, whether or not all you dumb Khmer surrender yourselves to Viet, Khmer is now deep-rooted Viet, and irreversibly so already.
Hun Sen is just a dumb Viet-Khmer that can be disposed of at anytime at just a blink of an eye!
Challenge me if all of you dumb Khmer can. We have millions of us (legally the majority thanks to that dumb Hun Sen) that will vote for Viet-Khmer candidate legally and democratically forever, even the outside world would support and agree and as a matter of factly, there is not much the outside world can do about it...
How Sam Raingsy and/or any of your worthless so-called dumb heroe(s) including the stupid dumb king Sihanouk of yours that just wants to reign and rule plan to win Cambodia back? The Federation of Indochina under Viet's protectorate is here to stay on this planet earth for real. How do all of you dumb Khmer think or plan to de-vietnamize it???
KRT is just a show to entertain the world. We, Viet, are that good and smart.
Can Khmer put up the second Killing fields to get rid of millions of legal Viet-Khmer citizen now like we, Viet, did?
Okay you dumb Khmer - put it up or shut up while we, Viet, are domesticating you for the bright future of the Federation of Indochina!
It's all too late for you dumb Khmer already!!!
Ms. Soap
P.s Think about how all of our Viet-Khmer/Khmer-Viet offsprings/Half-breeds would look beautifully and be smart like in our Federation of Indochina???
តើខ្មែរអាចសំឡាប់ប្រជាជន យួន ខ្មែរ រាប់លាន
អ្នកបានដូចដែល វៀត ធ្វើនោះទេ?
ស្ដាប់ឮទេខ្មែរ ល្ងង់ខ្លៅ???
Once again, can Khmer put up the second Killing Field to get rid of millions of legal Viet-Khmer citizen now like we, Viet, did?
Eest-ce que vous m'entendez les ignorants Khmers?
Juste Pour me répéter:
Peut Khmer créer un deuxième «Killing Field» pour se débarasser des millions de Viet-Khmer qui sont maintenant les habitants légaux du Viet-Cambodge comme nous, les Viets, avions fait?
KI-Media is yesterday news and ought to shut down for good or better yet, come kiss our Viet's ass now!
Our Viet's ass (80 millions) is resource #1. We defeated the French and the Americans just with our ass. We have suicidal commandoes to win the war. What do you dumb Khmer have? We, Viet, can let loose another million of our new fresh ass freely into Viet-Khmer shortly...as per Hun Sen's agreement just to let him rule...
What can all of you dumb Khmer do to stop it?
Qu'est-ce-que vous allez faire, les ignorants Khmers?
តើខ្មែរល្ងង់ខ្លៅឯងធ្វើអីកើតទៅ ក្រៅពីធ្វើខ្ញុំយួន!
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