Thursday, November 15, 2012

Comrade Ho 5 Hong: Deny! Deny! Deny!

Cambodian Foreign Minister Hor Nam Hong in Phnom Penh, August 6, 2010 (Heng Sinith/AP Photo)

The Khmer Rouge on Trial: Cambodia’s Foreign Ministry Responds

By Koy Kuong and reply by Stéphanie Giry

Mr. Editor-in-Chief:

I wish to respond to an article written by Stéphanie Giry, published on your blog under the title: “Necessary Scapegoats? The Making of the Khmer Rouge Tribunal,” as follows:

First, by saying that “He [Cambodian Foreign Minister Hor Nam Hong] was the Ambassador to Cuba for the regime of General Lon Nol,” the writer is really insane and ignorant. The reality is that His Excellency Hor Nam Hong has never worked for the Lon Nol’s regime. On the contrary, he was the Ambassador to Cuba for the GRUNC (Gouvernement Royal d’Union National du Cambodge) led by His Majesty the King Father Norodom Sihanouk during the war against the Lon Nol’s regime.

Secondly, His Excellency Hor Nam Hong has never been a schoolmate with Ieng Sary for a simple reason that they are from different generations.

Third, regarding a 2002 US Embassy cable released by WikiLeaks last summer, His Excellency Hor Nam Hong has already sent a letter of protest to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on 18 July, 2011. In her response letter dated 10 August 2011, the US Secretary of State “condemn[ed] is the WikiLeak’s disclosure of classified information [as] an irresponsible and illegal attempt to wreak havoc and destabilized global security.” The cable was, in fact, a story told by an opposition leader to the US Embassy that reported to the State Department.

I wish to request you to kindly publish my letter in full as soon as possible on your blog for your readers’ correct information.

Yours sincerely,
Koy Kuong
Spokesperson
Kingdom of Cambodia
Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation
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Stéphanie Giry replies:

The Boeung Trabek detention center in Phnom Penh (Documentation Center of Cambodia)
The Foreign Ministry of Cambodia takes issue with three points in my article, “Necessary Scapegoats: The Making of the Khmer Rouge Tribunal,” which argues that the ECCC, the special court established to try the Khmer Rouge, is as much a creature of politics, both Cambodian and international, as of justice. But the ministry provides clarifying information on only one of these points.

It remarks that I misstated Cambodian Foreign Minister Hor Nam Hong’s political affiliation while he was ambassador to Cuba in the early 1970s. I regret the error, and the article has been corrected. The letter’s other two points are inconclusive.

Ieng Sary—the Khmer Rouge’s foreign minister, who is now on trial before the ECCC—and Hor Nam Hong are indeed “from different generations”: Ieng Sary was born in 1924; Hor Nam Hong in 1935. Nonetheless, they may have overlapped as students at Lycée Sisowath in Phnom Penh, as reported in the 2002 US Embassy cable disclosed by WikiLeaks that I cite in my article. (The cable says, “An undated, unattributed report on file at the embassy claims that: Hor Nam Hong came back to Cambodia after the Khmer Rouge took over, but was not killed because he was a schoolmate of Ieng Sary.”)

Ieng Sary attended Lycée Sisowath between 1943 and 1949, after falsifying his birth certificate and pretending to be considerably younger than he was, precisely in order to be admitted to the school. If Hor Nam Hong followed a standard trajectory, he would have entered Lycée Sisowath in 1947 or 1948 and been there during the last years that Ieng Sary was.


I have been unable, however, to find a definitive answer to this question. The school’s records have been destroyed, several foreign embassies in Phnom Penh say they do not have the information, and the Foreign Ministry has not answered my repeated requests that it provide the dates of Hor Nam Hong’s attendance at Lycée Sisowath. The original text of the article has been amended to emphasize this uncertainty.

On the far more important matter of Hor Nam Hong’s role at Boeung Trabek—a Khmer Rouge detention camp for diplomats in Phnom Penh where he was both a prisoner and the president of the prisoners’ committee—the ministry’s letter is even less clarifying. Referring to the same US Embassy cable mentioned above, I wrote in my article:
A 2002 US embassy cable released by WikiLeaks last summer says that Hor Nam Hong and his wife may have “collaborated in the killing of many prisoners.” Last year in France he lost a final appeal in a defamation suit he had brought regarding such crimes.
In response, the Foreign Ministry quotes a letter from US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in which she laments the disclosure of classified information. This is irrelevant. What is relevant is whether the US government ever cast doubt on the veracity of the account relayed in the cable, and the ministry provides no indication that it did. Nor does the ministry offer any information of its own to contradict the account. The fact that it was a Cambodian opposition leader who told the embassy “a story” about Hor Nam Hong’s role at the camp does not in itself make the accusation incorrect.

Foreign Minister Hor Nam Hong has been quick to sue for defamation anyone alleging misdeeds on his part, with ambiguous results. In 1989 he sued Prince Norodom Sihanouk in France for implicating him in the deaths of one of the king’s cousins and the cousin’s wife, also the queen’s sister, at Boeung Trabek. The suit was filed while the comprehensive peace talks designed to steer Cambodia toward self-determination after a decade-long occupation by Vietnam were underway. Hor Nam Hong won the case by default when the king failed to appear at the hearings, but in 1991, as peace negotiations were gaining momentum, he reportedly apologized to Sihanouk in order to facilitate the political process.

In 2001, Hor Nam Hong sued the Cambodian reporter Kay Kimsong at The Cambodia Daily for relaying allegations that Keo Bunthouk, a senator and former prisoner at Boeung Trabek, had made on the floor of the Cambodian Senate: she claimed that Hor Nam Hong had sent some of her fellow inmates to the S-21 torture center and that they were never seen again. (A foreign reporter and a foreign editor at the paper were also sued, but they left the country before the trial, for unrelated reasons.)

Even though her statements had also been widely reported in other media, Keo Bunthouk testified during the trial that she never said what the Cambodia Daily article claimed; Kay Kimsong argued that the article was accurate and that in any event he could not be sued for libel for statements made in parliament. He lost. He also lost an appeal in 2005, after a judge had a private meeting with Keo Bunthouk at which, the judge says, Keo Bunthouk again denied making the accusations the reporter claimed.

In 2008, Hor Nam Hong filed suit for defamation in Paris against the Cambodian opposition leader Sam Rainsy. (This is the suit mentioned in my article.) Hor Nam Hong challenged a sentence from Sam Rainsy’s book Des racines dans la pierre (Rooted in Stone) that described “the foreign minister” as “a collaborator of the Khmer Rouge regime suspected of having caused the death of numerous people, including members of the royal family.

On April 27, 2011, France’s highest court, the Cour de cassation in Paris, found that this sentence was not defamatory. It cited witness statements from former Boeung Trabek detainees. Accounts by some of these witnesses—including written testimony from Keo Bunthouk–alleged that when Hor Nam Hong criticized a detainee at the camp, that person would soon disappear; others seemed to support Hor Nam Hong’s claim that he had no independent authority over what took place at the camp and that he had agreed to become president of the prisoners’ committee in order to avoid being killed himself. The court nonetheless ruled that the “incriminating section” of Sam Rainsy’s book—“which pertains to a general topic about the recent history of Cambodia and the conduct of an important figure during the tragic events that occurred there between 1975 and 1979”—“did not go beyond what freedom of expression allows when it comes to critiquing the conduct of a politician.”

It seems unlikely that further information about Hor Nam Hong will come to light, even in the ongoing trial against Ieng Sary and his fellow Khmer Rouge leaders Nuon Chea and Khieu Samphan before the special tribunal in Phnom Penh. As I mentioned in my article, Hor Nam Hong was among several top officials of the current Cambodian government who, despite being formally summoned, refused to talk to the ECCC’s co-investigating judges during the investigation for this case.

Witness testimony about Boeung Trabek, which at one point fell under the authority of Ieng Sary, has been inconclusive so far. Appearing before the court in early August, a former detainee named Ong Thong Hoeung stood by the account of Hor Nam Hong’s role at the camp that he gave in his 2003 book, J’ai cru aux Khmers rouges (I Believed in the Khmer Rouge). In it, he wrote that while at the time he did not think Hor Nam Hong was a Khmer Rouge cadre, he thought Hor Nam Hong acted like a “faithful servant of Angkar.” (“Angkar,” meaning the “organization,” refers to the Khmer Rouge leadership.)

In late July another witness, a former official in Ieng Sary’s foreign ministry called Rochoem Ton, had told the court, in answer to questions from lawyers for the Khmer Rouge’s chief ideologue Nuon Chea, that Hor Nam Hong had been “in charge of” Boeung Trabek. Hor Nam Hong promptly issued a statement chastising the defense lawyers for “stirring up controversy around public figures like myself.” Within days, Rochoem Ton told local reporters that he disavowed what he had said in court. (He has not, however, formally retracted his testimony.)

On August 13, the Nuon Chea defense team filed a motion asking the ECCC’s trial chamber to publicly rebuke Hor Nam Hong for interfering with the administration of justice. The application is pending.

November 14, 2012.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sam Rainsy should take this opportunity to go to Cambodia. His chance to meet President Obama and the ASEAN leaders. This is the perfect opportunity for Sam Rainsy to be arrested and imprison in front of the world leaders while the eyes of the world are focusing on Cambodia. Sam Rainsy must go to Cambodia to show his courage and inspired his followers. Sam Rainsy go to Cambodian now and show the world of your courage, or stays meekly in France, and show the world that you are a coward. A man, who does not have courage of his convictions.ahahaahaahahah

Anonymous said...

Ah Whore Nam Hoang was quilty as charged he was a murder in Khmer rouge regime,no question about that! Quilty ah Whore Yuon Hoang 100% charge him put his ugly ass in lion den or alligator pond now...

Anonymous said...

Stéphanie Giry is a Senior Editor at Foreign Affairs magazine and a freelance writer. She has written for Foreign Affairs, The New York Times, The New Republic, The Washington Post, and The Los Angeles Times, and has worked for Legal Affairs magazine and the Associated Press.

Koy Kuong is a spokeperson with no education, no experience, and fake PhD from Vietnam now calling Stéphanie Giry ignorant and insane?

CPP spokeman are attacking journalists and calling them stupid?? Hun Sen is a mad dog, hes been attacking journalist since the failed ASEAN meeting.

Attacking the Phillipines, Thailand, the UN expert, the Global Witness UK Watchdog, Australia Political affair, now attacking the Times magazine.

Anonymous said...

Sam Rainsy, the main opposition leader in Cambodia, is a HERO or Coward? He afraid to enter Cambodia afraid of arrest or imprison. He stay in France meekly asking Hun Sen, his opponent, to pardon him before he return to Cambodia. Sam Rainsy please a hero think of Gandhi Mandela, Ah Su Chi. .There will be a tremendous amount of political and popular gain to be obtained by Mr. Sam Rainsy if he were to take the advice of 12:04 AM above by returning to Cambodia to face the jail sentence during the Asian Summit in Phnom Penh.

His political plight will be in broad daylight and his courage would earn him more respect and, of course, votes and trust among the electorate. Without a doubt his arrival in Phnom Penh unexpectedly at this time would put Hun Sen in a clumsy and precarious position of deciding what to do with Sam Rainsy.

More likely than not Hun Sen will arrest him despite strong objection from western leaders, but the negative pressure created on Hun Sen and his government by the imprisonment of Sam Rainsy will have far reaching and more serious consequences for Phnom Penh than the inconvenience of Mr. Sam living in Prey Sar jail.

It is certainly a suggestion to be considered seriously if one wants to play Cambodian politics which are usually dirty and can be deadly.

Well, you can't be a cook if you are not willing to be dirty and get burned every now and then.

Anonymous said...

6:11 AM,

It's a good idea to coral all the supporters in Cambodia than ouside country for S. Rainsy, but to go Cambodia and deal with this communist leaders or Vietcong puppet, is like you walk straight to jail.

Those Vietcong puppet don't care who's in the country. These are Khmer Rough remants, so it's doesn't matter even Obama is in Cambodia, do they give shit about world leaders? I don't think so, because thier favorite father is China, that's it.

Anonymous said...

Look at Mom Sonando, he had never been to the Kratie Village. Yet, Hun Sen court's found links and witness to testify that Mom Sonando was a ring leader if they confess to the crime.

If Sam Rainsii was to return to Cambodia, Hun Sen will use the same dumb brain and jungle law to sentence Sam Rainsii for 20 years in prison if hes alive long enough to get out.

What is to stop Hun Sen from killing Sam Rainsii to please the Vietnamese?

Anonymous said...

You are all dump stupid . Till now, why you all don't know nothing about the trick of Viet over Hun Sen? How long will you understand this, till your land like Champa? As long as Viet put its nose in Khmers's issue, Khmer have never free from Viet, that is its goal for 400 years ago. If Viet a good people why Champa and Kampuchea Krom innto Viet's hand. The best goal of Viet is expansion policy and Thailand is the next goal. Please know this. As long as Khmers=Israely people, Khmers will lose their land and live under Viet as Chef.

Anonymous said...

8:09 AM,

Don't be a plagiarist!

Anonymous said...

ជាការពិត សាលាក្ដីខ្មែរក្រហម ត្រូវអូសក ហោ៥ហុង
និងកុយកួង មកកាត់ទោស​ បើតាមឯកសាររបស់
Stéphanie Giry ព្រោះអ្វីៗដែលលាតត្រដាងក្នុង
the WikiLeak ស្ទើរតែពិតទាំងអស់។

ការណ៍ ហ្នឹងដែលយើងខ្ញុំជាខ្មែរអាចសន្និដ្ឋានបានថា
ពួកអាក្រុមយួននិងខ្មែរក្រហមយៀកមិញ ជាឃាតករ
ដ៏សាហាវ ដែលឆ្លៀតសម្លាប់ខ្មែរជិត២លាននាក់ក្នុង
របបប៉ុលពត នៅមានអាកញ្ចាស់អៀងសារីម្នាក់ទៀត
ដែលជាកញ្ជះយួនដាច់ថ្លៃនៅអែបឃ្លៀក ប៉ុលពត។
នេះហើយ មិត្តសម្លាប់មិត្តជាការងាយស្រួលបំផុត
ទ្រិស្ដីរបស់អាយួនយៀកកុង បញ្ជាឱ្យខ្មែរសម្លាប់
ខ្មែរ រួចវាចូលមកបង្ហើយនៅថ្ងៃ៧មករា៧៩ ដោយ
យកលេស មកជួយសង្រ្គោះខ្មែរ។

វេលានេះ យើងខ្ញុំ ថា ប្រជាពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរ គួរលោក
ឡើងធ្វើ មេធាវី ខ្លួនលោកផ្ទាល់តែម្ដង ដោយភ្ញាក់
រឮកទូទាំងប្រទេស ដើម្បីប្រឆាំងចំពោះចក្រពត្តយួន
មហាចង្រៃ នឹងលេបបាត់កម្ពុជាក្នុងអានាគតដ៏ខ្លី
ហើយកម្ពុជាដ៏ជាទីស្នេហានៃយើងនឹងក្លាយទៅជា
ចម្ប៉ាទី២ ដោយស្របច្បាប់។

ទាំងឡាយនេះគឺជាការសង្កេតរបស់ខ្ញុំបាទ បន្ទាប់ពី
ការយាងចូលទីវង្គតរបស់ព្រហមហាវីរក្សត្រ វាសុទ្ធ
តែជាព្រឹត្តិការដ៏ចម្លែក ហ៊ុនសែន ប្រកាសគ្មាន
សល់នៅទៀតទេស្នាព្រះហស្ថមហាវីរក្សត្រ រួចមក
អាបណ្ឌិតឡៅម៉ុងហៃ ដល់មកឥឡូវ ហោ៥ហុង
និងអៀងសារី....អស្ចារ្យមែន ខ្មោចអាហូជីមិញ!

Anonymous said...

Ah niss neung ah kon vea are a perfect example of a condescending, arrogant thug who has no regard for anyone else...

Anonymous said...

look Mr Vietcong face. you are the one of master of morder in Khmer rouge and now.


khmer

Anonymous said...

ឈៀង វុន
អាយួន កញ្ចាស់ចុយម្រាយ!"ហូ ណាមហុង"
!

សូមអស់លោកពិនិត្យ​មើលមុខនឹងឈ្មោះ
ពួកអា(ង្វៀង)ទាំងអស់នេះ ដូចជា :​

-ឡៅ ម៉ុងហៃ, ឡៅ ម៉េងគិន,
ឡាយ គឹមហ៊ាង,ឡេង ប៉េងឡុង,
លឺ ឡាយស្រេង,លី ធាងចេក,
-យឹម កិច្ចស៊ែ,យឹម ឆៃលី,យូ ប៊ុនឡេង,
-,ហូ ណាមបូវ៉ា,ហ៊ុន សែន,ហែម ហេង,ហេង សំរិន,ហេង ឡាយ,
-កាំង ហ្កេកអ៊ាវ,កៅ គឹមស្ហៀរ,គាត ឈុន,គី តិច,
-សុខ អាន,សុខ គង់,
ស៊ា កុសល់,ស៊ាន ប៉េងសែ,
សាម ហ៊ាង,សេង ធារី,
-អឹង យុក តិចហូ, អេង ឆៃអៀង,
ឱម យិនទៀង,
-ចាន់ សារុន,ចៀម យីប,ជា លាង,ជុំ កុសល,
-តាវ សេងហួរ,តូច ប៊ុនហួរ,
-ខៀវ កញ្ញារឹទ្ធិ,ងួន ធីញ៉ឹល,វ៉ា គិម ហុង,
-ពុង ប៉េងចេង, ពុង ខៀវសែ,ពុង ឈីវហ្កេច,
មួ សុខហួរ,សេង ធារី,ឈៀង វុន...etc...

តើមុខនឹងឈ្មោះពួកវាជាខ្មែរដែរឬទេ???

Anonymous said...

អាយួន កញ្ចាស់ចុយម្រាយ!"ហូ ណាមហុង"
!

សូមអស់លោកពិនិត្យ​មើលមុខនឹងឈ្មោះ
ពួកអា(ង្វៀង),អា(ហូ)ទាំងអស់នេះ ដូចជា :​

-ឡៅ ម៉ុងហៃ, ឡៅ ម៉េងគិន,
ឡាយ គឹមហ៊ាង,ឡេង ប៉េងឡុង,
លឺ ឡាយស្រេង,លី ធាងចេក,
-យឹម កិច្ចស៊ែ,យឹម ឆៃលី,យូ ប៊ុនឡេង,
-,ហូ ណាមបូវ៉ា,ហ៊ុន សែន,ហែម ហេង,ហេង សំរិន,ហេង ឡាយ,
-កាំង ហ្កេកអ៊ាវ,កៅ គឹមស្ហៀរ,គាត ឈុន,គី តិច,
-សុខ អាន,សុខ គង់,
ស៊ា កុសល់,ស៊ាន ប៉េងសែ,
សាម ហ៊ាង,សេង ធារី,
-អឹង យុក តិចហូ, អេង ឆៃអៀង,
ឱម យិនទៀង,
-ចាន់ សារុន,ចៀម យីប,ជា លាង,ជុំ កុសល,
-តាវ សេងហួរ,តូច ប៊ុនហួរ,
-ខៀវ កញ្ញារឹទ្ធិ,ងួន ធីញ៉ឹល,វ៉ា គិម ហុង,
-ពុង ប៉េងចេង, ពុង ខៀវសែ,ពុង ឈីវហ្កេច,
មួ សុខហួរ,សេង ធារី,ឈៀង វុន...etc...

តើមុខនឹងឈ្មោះពួកវាជាខ្មែរដែរឬទេ???

Anonymous said...

សូមផ្ទៀងស្ដាប់ដោយយកចិត្តទុកដាក់ ពេលអាមួយ
នេះនិយាយម្ដងៗ គឺ និយាយខ្មែរមិនច្បាស់ទេ មាន
ជ្រៀតចូលសម្លេងយួននឹងគួរឱ្យចាប់អារម្មណ៍៕