Wednesday, May 01, 2013

School of Vice [now also known as 'The Diplomat Writer'!] replies to Readers



Sinn Sisamouth & Pen Ron - Rom Prolom Lok Ta
 

'Krom merg ber kmean oun'

NB: From what I have read about the late Sinn Sisamouth, he came from the province of Stung Treng and, characteristic of many in that beautiful region of the country, he was of ethnic Laotian-Khmer extraction. The young Sisamouth is said to have secretly spent hours on end each day in his native village honing his singing ability and refining his vocal, suggesting that although he might have realised early on that he had been blessed with this natural gift that could be exploited as a means of forging a professional career as a singer for himself, this raw natural talent alone was perhaps not quite enough for him were he to realise his ambition in that particular career path with so many established singers already ahead and above him in reputation and fame. Hence, perhaps, the determination he put into training his voice until it became what we [or most of his fans] now recognise as unique and exceptional. 

Most of his fans also use the term ‘teuk dorm’ [or nectar] quality to describe his vocal - it is that soothing and at the same time captivating [especially to women!] vocal charm and seduction that speaks directly to the listener’s soul and entrances the senses, suspending these in a dream-like reality. This is all the more remarkable given that during this early pre-fame part of his life he had only, perhaps, the cows and the buffalos as his audience and the instrumental accompaniments provided by the birds perching on the windblown rice stalks! 

I met a professional male singer once who gave me a treat by singing a song in an impromptu fashion, and that nectar quality in his voice –without any instrumental accompaniments - was overwhelming for me even then as a young [very young, indeed!] listener. It was a stunning experience and a privilege for me. Today we listen to these ‘oldies’ and hear only the recorded voice of these singers; sounds that had been reproduced several times over and, for many, sadly, tampered with unnecessarily through ‘mixing’ that deforms or degrades their original feel and harmony, in my view. Cambodia in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s also had not had the hi-tec studios and recording facilities that are taken for granted by artists today. This makes their achievements all the more remarkable.  

In this sense, Mr Sinn Sisamouth is, was and will always be a one-off, just as is the case with his preferred duet partner, Ms Ros Sereisothea: in short, they were and are ‘peerless’ for what they possessed. However, this does not - and should not imply - that other stars or talents will always be second best and be forever judged by their standards. I think successive generations should thrive for their own originality and expressions, just as Mr Sinn Sisamouth and Ms Ros Sreisothea had done before them. Otherwise, these generations would always be held back in innovation and creativity through fear of failure and be condemned to mimic the works of their forebears - School of Vice

'Ber kmean oun' by Sinn Sisamouth


We Dance - Thet Sambath, Pan Ron & Others 

Preap Sovath & Sokun Nisa
Stung Keo - Sinn Sisamouth

“The artist is the creator of beautiful things. To reveal art and to conceal the artist is art’s aim.”
          -Oscar Wilde


Dear reader @10:14 AM,

Thank you for your very charming comments! 

First of all, surely you meant the fans of those famous singers you mentioned, rather than School of Vice’s, who can’t sing, can’t cook, can’t dance, can’t swear [in any known language!], and more importantly, can’t even use the Khmer Unicode to write his/her own name in Khmer without the assistance of Google Translate?!!


As for my thought concerning the issue you raised as to who comes closest to the great, iconic and beloved Mr Sinn Sisamouth, well, this is an awkward terrain... I mean how can I answer that question honestly without pleasing some and upsetting others?! It is said that three topics of conversation are destined to divide opinion, create divisions, arouse passion and fuel argument, namely, politics, religion and race. To this list one may add a fourth: music! Privately, I have my own preference and view as far as this issue is concerned, and privately, I would not hesitate to answer your question! 

I have been posting and selecting a wide and eclectic variety of songs from different eras in Cambodia’s music tradition [well, not all eras at any rate], including those of the present day. There is no doubt [as your analogy fittingly reminds us that ‘most of us like foods that taste good and are also good’] that the country’s overall artistic life has suffered like everything else, and despite ordinary people’s effort to revive this impaired aspect of human culture, the wholesale annihilation of those great pioneers and poets during the 1970s has created a haunting gap in Khmer life today and since.
Imagine how many more great tracks and novels these artists would have gone on to produce; how many young talents they would have nurtured and trained who in turn would have done likewise with the next generation that followed so as to pass on their skills and legacies and to ensure this aspect of life go on improving and flourishing? Fortunately, this general haemorrhage resulting from that cruel, inhumane past has not completely denied the Cambodian people their enjoyment of ancient classical music, folk songs and theatres of many kinds that are undergoing revival today. Wedding music, religious songs etc are constantly heard, and although these sounds may not appeal to foreign ears, they nevertheless have therapeutic and soothing effect on the Khmer people at a time of change, of mental, emotional stress and bewilderment, and this is in a country without developed health facilities or services for its general population. Of course, we still have songs from the pre-war times, and these are like dews or oasis in today’s virtual cultural desert, in context of artistic creativity, at least.

Life is still a struggle for many artists and entertainers in Cambodia today. Like most Khmers they have to earn a living as best they can in a cynical and precarious industry; and most have family members to feed. Young female artists, in particular, put themselves in a state of risk through such exposure and publicity in a society where the power of the gun and money buys one almost everything. To those who only see them ‘singing and dancing’, please remember that there may be more than meets the eye. This is partly why I have included those video clips, even if in terms of appreciation and quality, they may not match up to my personal taste!

Sorry, I have gone off the subject matter - yet again! And while I try my best to evade your question, I will have this little comfort and peace of conscience knowing and suspecting that as a discerning listener and keen fan of music you probably already know my answer to that question!! Thanks again for your lovely comments and for giving me food for thought. Kindest

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To: the reader @ 10:17 AM who suggest that ‘Golden memories’ should be សុវ័ណសាវរីយ my thanks for the translation which I may adopt at some stage... For all its shortcomings, Google Translate is not without its charm! Type ‘school of vice’ twice, one in small letters and another with capital S and V and the translations in Khmer will be completely different. 


Type ‘Heng Soy’ and one gets 'លោកហេងសណ្តែក'; type Soy Heng [without the commas] and one still get: លោកហេងសណ្តែក!!? Now type ‘Soy Heng’ with the commas, Heng Soy [without the commas] and the translation will be: 'សណ្តែកហេង'! 


All one sees is ‘Heng’ [Lucky]; whatever happens to the ‘Soy’ [Unlucky] part of the name?! 


[NB: I’m taking quite a risk here picking on my good friend, Heng Soy...]


-School of Vice
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40 comments:

Anonymous said...

SoV,

It is hard to believe that a person who enjoys articulation (playing with words and language), often posts music videos and writes political points of view, proclaims that he cannot swear, cannot sing or dance, and does not want to stir up passions!

You see, your restrained but intended (intellectual) provocation rendered those exact actions - swearing, singing, stirring passions and emotions - however, in a fancy and intoxicated package.

I see how you gentlemanly put down the new artists and acknowledged their reality simultaneously.

Vive la difference! And in my unrefined and unsophisticated world view, I would like to say Enjoy Life! It is very short and temporary.

Anonymous said...

I have no idea what he is talking about. Maybe because I am not the person he is replying to.

Anonymous said...

Soy is not the only "sandaek." It is just one type of sandaek. It is sadaek seang.

Anonymous said...

School of Vice,
Whoever asked you to judge who sing closer to Mr Sin SiSamouth is completely retarded and you need not to answer. The good voice is in the ear holder, if he or she believed someone is good for him or her then be it! why asked your judgement. It's a matter of your own preference.
I must say that person is mentally retarded and you shouldn't wasting your time to answer that.

Anonymous said...

If everybody sing like Sin SiSamouth then the Khmer art will never be developed. Why it has to be like Sin SiSamouth? unless you are a Copy Cat and I don't think they should be proud of that! As a old generation grew up from the old times as far as I know, Eung Nary never not even tried to sing Sin SiSamouth song, he sung his own songs and made a hit as well at the time and our Khmer people appreciated that! So why someone trying to put him and judge him whether he is or not closer to Sin SiSamouth style, he had his own style and he was proud of that.Please respect his soul! An art requires creativity not copying or it will never step forward. Same thing all Khmer new songs should not copy from Thai, we have to develop our own!

Anonymous said...

11:08 PM Good point.

Anonymous said...

Sous song Veajah is one of the best that khmer's produced after killingfield.Before that Sin sisamouth and Sos Matt,In yeanh,Ros Sereysothia,Pen Ron,and more...Preap Sovann and Sokhun Nisha,don't like it that much,Yun SoPreap and Chheoun Odom were sing better:

Anonymous said...

Thank you for posting these old songs!

Anonymous said...

1:01 AM

We agree with you.
Mr.Sin Sisamouth is the best Khmer singer ever.
Mr. Suos Song Veaja is the next best!!

Anonymous said...

Sounds familiar someone agree and talk to themselves, hehe what a joke! LMAO

Anonymous said...


In old time:samouth No 1, Eung Nary No2, Thet Sambath No3

In present time, Preap savath No1, serey mon No2, Nop byarith No3, Noy vanneth No4, ek sidey No 5, Chhuoy Sopheap No 6, Yun Sopheap No7, Touch Saly No8,Chhoeun Oudam No 9, Sen Ronuth No 10 and Song veacha No 11.

Anonymous said...

To 6:28 AM,

One should know when the public tide turns againt oneself.

This loser on KI had to resort to personal innuendo and dared to make false accusations.
How low would he go ?

Anonymous said...

suos song veacha learned how to control his voice to be like sin si samouth's. some would like it, i would not; why? because he is not and never will be si samouth, and that shows he lacks his own personality (or soul?) to be in someone else's format.

some new and young female artists now sound as good or even better than the old divas like sothea or pen ron. they are modern, and represent today's popular and contemporary sounds. grandpas/mas and grand uncles/aunties cannot enjoy the new sounds from the new generation artists - that forces these new artists to try to closely copy the old sounds and limit their own vocal potentials and artistic ability.

Anonymous said...

Dear School of Vice,

We sincerely thank you for your kind response.

Reading between the lines, and sophisticated ones they were, we know you have acquired such a good taste of Khmer music,lyrics,songs and singers.

We once read that you were called a political analyst; and Khmerization also called you an entertainment writer.
Now you have earned your new credential, and you are hereby solemnly bestowed with an additional title:Diplomat Writer.

Again, we thank you.
Cordially,

Your Secret Admirer

Anonymous said...

Song veacha ranks No 11. No doubt!

Anonymous said...

In old time:samouth No 1, Eung Nary No2, Thet Sambath No3

In present time, Preap savath No1, serey mon No2, Nop byarith No3, Noy vanneth No4, ek sidey No 5, Chhuoy Sopheap No 6, Yun Sopheap No7, Touch Saly No8,Chhoeun Oudam No 9, Sen Ronuth No 10 and SONG VEACHA No 11.

Anonymous said...

For me!
In old time:

Sinn Sisamouth .............No 1

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Eung Nary..................No 12
Thet Sambath ..............No 13
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In present time
Nop Bayarith ..............No 1
serey mon .................No 2
Yun Sopheap ...............No 2
Chhuoy Sopheap ............No 3

Anonymous said...

Song veacha ranks No 11. No doubt!

Anonymous said...

Preap sovath and Noy Vanneth
no number,samleng neung muk
doch ah samrae 7 makara.

Anonymous said...

Thanks to School of Vice for posting two of my father's songs which he composed and played in the band. The top and the bottom ones are his and Sisamouth singed most of what he composed. The man on the top picture holding accordion composed many of the best songs in Cambodia during the late 1960s to mid 1970s. Sadly he died in 1979 at the hand of Khmer Rogue. His name is UY Hael.

Anonymous said...

Song veacha ranks No 11. No doubt!

School of Vice said...

Dear reader/listener @ 10:20 PM

Thanks for sharing with us this rare information and insight.

I think most people today [myself included] can't even remember and/or identify the original titles of most of the songs written or composed by those great poets and musicians like your father. Cambodia is indeed blessed to have a son like him without whose genius and creative imagination many a life would have been much the poorer.

We stand in awe of their - and your father's - precious achievements, and sincerely salute their eternal, living legacies and memories.

Anonymous said...

To 1:35 AM,
The person who keeps repeating :
" song veaha ranks No 11.No doubt! ".

This person has lost the arguments time and
time again. That's why this person keeps repeating the same falsehoods over and over again.
This person came down with a mental condition
called : Suos Song Veachalitis !!!

Anonymous said...

Honestly Suos Song Veajah is way behind all modern singers.

Anonymous said...

@2:38 AM
Dear School of Vice,

Thank your for kind reply and acknowledgment of him and others.

I enjoy reading your essays, you seem so full of energy.

Anonymous said...

I take originality and personality over mediocre imitation any time! No intended insult, but trying to copy with zero passion and emotion never makes anyone a good singer, for me anyway.

Anonymous said...

Song Veajah could not and will not make any hit on his own songs. He loves being copy cat and tried to make fortune out of Samouth song, without shame. And he is not even good of doing that, his natural voice sucks.

Anonymous said...

11:00 AM

As we all know, to sing Sin Sisamouth songs well, a singer must be very good.
Until now, no Khmer singer could sing as good as the Master, only came close.That singer is Sous Song Veja.
Most Khmer listeners agree, if you don't that is your problem.

Anonymous said...

Making money out of somebody proprietorship is very cheap so called TOANG CHEUNG KHOR KEH. Sos Song Veajah could not make any song of his own as a hit.To make some money he picked on Samouth song that already a hit to everybody ears and copy cat and turns out to be a bad one. Veacha Sucks! even with the help of today tech like advanced Echo his natural voice sounds like someone had a bad breath.

Anonymous said...

Song veacha ranks No 11. No doubt!

Anonymous said...

Song veacha ranks No 11.111. No doubt!

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone want to be like someone else? If you like Samouth's sound, go get his old music cd's. And let the new artists create their own individual vocal signatures. Stop unfairly comparing the new artists' voices to past singers'.

Personally, I am nostalgic to the times and places where memories linger and connect to the old songs. However, that does not mean that those old singers were superior than the new ones. Veacha may have similar sound like Samouth through his karaoke practices, but he does not come out as original. He lacks creativity, emotion, and passion in his performances - almost always with zero enthusiasm. Also, even with the control that he uses, he always comes out with one or more times in a song where his tongue gets between the teeth, which affect the vocal clarity. That does not mean he could be good if he decided to make his own unique sound instead of trying to be Samouth.

Anonymous said...

History has shown a legend artist had made his own style his own song or movie as great hit, such as Bruce Lee, Sin Sisamouth, Frank sinatra etc...not to be a copy cat! a copy cat is a failure artist. After Bruce lee died uncountable of copy cat in the movie came out none of them succeed anything!

Anonymous said...

Legend artist not just a style or technique or anything, it's purely natural voice god gifted, very unique in case of mr samouth his voice is brilliant crispy and adorable. You got from God gifted, not dull and boring like those copy cat.

Anonymous said...

Personally If I liked one of those song sung by Sin SiSamouth I would listen to his CD. Why do I need to listen to the counterfeit one?

Anonymous said...

GUESS WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE NO TASTE.




just kidding!

Anonymous said...

NOTICE :

The guy @ 7:23 PM has been so obsessed with Suos Song Veacha to the point that he came down with a case of severe SUOS SONG VEACHALITIS !!!
For this guy, it is not treatable.

Anonymous said...

We ladies like to be romantic.
We love songs sung by samuth and veaja.
lol

Anonymous said...

NEANG KGHOM CHAONG SDAP LOK SAMOUT NEING
LOK VACHCHA DAE

Anonymous said...

Oh my
thought only old women like samut and vicha
Me Preap Sawat always. LOL