Showing posts with label Thailand accusation. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Thailand accusation. Show all posts

Thursday, October 21, 2010

Unguarded remarks put [Thailand's] DSI on back foot

21/10/2010
Thanida Tansubhapol
Bangkok Post

The Department of Special Investigation has been left reeling after Cambodia angrily rejected its claims that a group of red shirt supporters received weapons training on its territory.

The DSI now finds itself in the middle of a diplomatic spat which could have been avoided had it kept its opinions to itself or at least raised its concerns through diplomatic or political channels rather than airing its claims through the media.

Eleven men were arrested on Oct 2 at Doi Ku Fah resort in Chiang Mai's Mae On subdistrict.

They allegedly told DSI investigators they were among 39 red shirt supporters who received weapons training in Siem Reap in preparation to assassinate key public figures.


Panitan Wattanayagorn, the prime minister's deputy secretary-general, says the DSI is now trying to verify the claims, after Cambodian government spokesman Phay Siphan insisted on Oct 11 the weapons training had never taken place. He said the allegation was a "made-up story [designed] to blame Cambodia".

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his Cambodian counterpart, Hun Sen, discussed the issue on the sidelines of the Asia-Europe Summit in Brussels two weeks ago.

Hun Sen promised to investigate. Given Hun Sen's willingness to cooperate, why did the DSI feel it necessary to air the matter in the media?

It may not have known what Mr Abhisit and Hun Sen had agreed, which shows that one arm of the government is apparently unaware of what the other is doing.

The diplomatic spat between Thailand and Cambodia over the weapons training claims has raised new concerns after Mr Abhisit and Hun Sen made promising strides in improving bilateral relations at a meeting in New York only last month.

Mr Abhisit proposed to Hun Sen during those talks that the two leaders talk to each other directly if problems in the relationship arise, rather than responding to reports in the media.

"We promised to talk to each other more," Mr Abhisit said at the time. "I think many problems have emerged from us attacking each other or from third parties trying to undermine our relationship."

The DSI's premature utterances threaten to undermine the pledge made by the leaders.

The relationship has only recently recovered after a diplomatic spat set off by Hun Sen's decision to appoint former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra as his adviser.

The Thai government recalled its ambassador to Phnom Penh, Prasas Prasasvinitchai, last November in protest.

Thaksin resigned from the position in August and relations between the two countries started to improve.

Mr Prasas has since returned to Phnom Penh.

Mr Abhisit said the latest row could have been avoided had the two countries honoured their pledges in New York. Hopefully, the DSI will take this as a lesson to be more guarded about its utterances.

Monday, October 18, 2010

In search of 'red herrings' in Siem Reap

17/10/2010
Bangkok Post

SIEM REAP / They allegedly told investigators that they had crossed into Cambodia, stayed in a hotel and a house, and later moved to a camp for weapons training to prepare for an attack on Thailand's political leaders.

If the claims prove to be true, it would be the first time that anti-government protesters have turned to organised guerrilla tactics.

In Siem Reap, locals are aware of the reports that have rattled relations between the two countries following the claims by the Department of Special Investigation (DSI).

But proof that a secret red shirt squad used the Cambodian city of Siem Reap as a training base is thin on the ground.

The Bangkok Post Sunday travelled to Siem Reap seeking out clues that the DSI may also be looking for to verify or disprove the claims.

The locals have read accounts in newspapers such as the Khmer-language Rasami Angkor and the English-language Phnom Penh Post, or heard the claims on the radio, but many are unsure whether the weapons training ever took place on Cambodian soil.

At the Angkor Hotel, where the DSI alleges some of the 11 red shirts now under detention had stayed, staff said they had not checked in a group of Thai men in the past four or five months.

Staff members said Thai visitors usually stayed at other hotels; when they did stay at the Angkor, it was usually in a big tour group.

The hotel is on National Road No 6 which cuts past the town to the Thai border in the northeast and Phnom Penh in the southwest. Along the road are mid-range and high-end hotels.

Not far from the hotel, about one kilometre to the northeast, is another hotel popular with Thai tourists, and allegedly with red shirts, called the City Angkor Hotel.

A tuk-tuk driver who parks near the hotel said he and other drivers had heard of red shirts, including some leaders, staying there. They also claimed that former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra had stayed at the hotel.

However, they could shed no light on whether red shirts had stayed there while undertaking weapons training.

A senior hotel staff member said he had heard about the detained red shirts, but said he knew nothing more and declined to comment further. But he did say that Thaksin stayed at the hotel ''some time ago''.

A DSI investigator who took part in the interrogation of the 11 detainees alleged that they told investigators they had splintered into smaller groups after leaving Thailand. Some said they stayed at a hotel which they simply identified as ''Angkor''.

The investigator _ who asked to remain anonymous _ said he could not confirm the exact location of the hotel or the alleged weapons training camp. He said the detainees only referred to distances and directions.

The DSI undertook the investigation after 11 men were arrested by local police on Oct 2 at Doi Ku Fah resort in Chiang Mai's Mae On sub-district.

According to the DSI, the 11 men were red shirts who had taken on different roles, ranging from guards to rescue staff, in the protests that started in March, ranging from being a guard, a rescue staff, and others.

The DSI officer said after the protests, the men were jobless and were contacted by other red shirts, including leaders of hardcore groups including the Rak Chiang Mai 51.

The men, aged from their 20s to 40s, were allegedly offered a salary of 15,000 baht plus a 500 baht daily dhallowance and were told they had to receive weapons training. They were not told what they had to do afterwards.

The DSI claimed that, in early June, they set off for their weapons training, travelling by three separate routes.

The first group went in a van to Chong Jom in Surin province and left the country. The second group gathered at Mor Chit bus station before travelling through Nakhon Ratchasima province and to Surin province before crossing the border.

The last group travelled east, passing Pattaya before leaving the country through Sra KaewSa Kaeo province. The DSI claimed none of the men passed through immigration checkpoints. They allegedly stayed in the hotel and a house for several weeks before moving to the makeshift training camp. In all, 39 received weapons training, the DSI team alleged.

The first week consisted of political indoctrination, while the second was in general knowledge of use of various weapons such as M16 rifles and rocket-propelled grenade launchers, the DSI officer alleged. The group allegedly returned to Thailand on Aug 16 and separated, with 11 of them regrouping in Chiang Mai.

The DSI claim the men were instructed to wait for an operation against either a person or a place. They stayed at the Chiang Mai resort for almost a month without doing anything.

One of them, Kittichai Chansawat, could not stand the regimen, so he ran away and asked for help to get back to his home in the eastern province of Prachin Buri. The police later interrogated him and learned about the group. They worked with the DSI to further interrogate them, and the men have been detained ever since.

''They were moved by the red shirt camp's beliefs about bringing back true democracy. Their men had died in the protest, and there is also another fact that the fact is that they needed to make a living, as they were jobless,'' said the DSI investigator.

Cambodia has strongly rejected DSI's claims that red shirts weapons training was conducted on their soil, saying it the DSI had fabricated the story.

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva is due to meet Cambodian journalists in Bangkok today to improve understanding and cooperation between the two countries, his office said.

The manager of a Siem Reap restaurant said locals did not want to get dragged into politcs and wanted a good relationship with Thai visitors. But she added the DSI allegations were ''harsh''.

''It is hard to believe that such an act has been carried out on Cambodian soil,'' she said.

Friday, October 15, 2010

Cambodia angered at Thailand's Red Shirt accusations

October 15, 2010
ABC Radio Australia

A rift between Cambodia and Thailand has worsened after Thai security officials accused Cambodia of allowing 11 anti-government Red Shirts to receive three weeks of training in Siem Reap to assassinate politicians.

The Thai Department of Special Investigation says the men confessed to the training after they were picked up in the northern province of Chiang Mai this month. The accusation has angered the Cambodian Government, which has accused its neighbour of playing dirty games and concocting evidence

Presenter: Linda LoPresti
Speakers: Phay Siphan, spokesman for Cambodia's Council of Ministers; David Chandler, Emeritus Professor of History at Monash University



SIPHAN: This accusation is baseless and unprofessional. The two countries we do have an exchange of diplomats already, we have a diplomatic channel that is the proper channel that should, modern governments should use that. So to escalate publicly is an insult, it's a groundless accusation. The constitution doesn't allow anyone to use Cambodian territory as a springboard to get anyone, and Cambodia commit internationally not to prop up, I mean we are against terrorists. So the accusation very uncivilized it's sabotage I mean again that Cambodia try to build trust with Thailand, especially with the last two meetings between Samdech Hun Sen Cambodian Prime Minister and His excellency Abhisit Vejjajiva, the Thai Prime minister.

LOPRESTI: This latest spat threatens to reverse a recent thaw in relations, which have been strained since a long-running dispute over a border temple flared in 2008. So where to from here? To help answer that question, I'm joined by one of the world's foremost western scholars of Cambodia, David Chandler, who's currently Emeritus Professor of History at Monash University.

David Chandler Hun Sen denies that Cambodia would allow foreigners to setup training camps on its territory. Could it be occurring without his knowledge?

CHANDLER: Well it might be but I doubt it, I doubt if anything like this could happen without the knowledge of the government. And I don't think it did happen, I sort of tend to agree with the Cambodian spokesman that you quoted earlier. But it's a mysterious thing because obviously I think there were people who confessed to this happening, now under what circumstances they confessed is of course remains to be seen.

LOPRESTI: Well these accusations come from the Thai Department of Special Investigations. Is it kosher for this department to make this accusation without consulting the Prime Minister?

CHANDLER: I would say it's pretty loose canon, I mean they should have gone through their own channels in Thailand and then let the Thai inform the Cambodians about it. It looks like a fairly loose accusation being made by these people, but I'm not sure how that worked out. It seems irresponsible to me, yes.

LOPRESTI: Do you think it suggests a split between the government and the Thai security officials or Thai intelligence, given that the DSI chief says that he stands by its intelligence reports with facts supplied by its agents on-site activities?

CHANDLER: I'm not sure what it implies, you're right, that's one implication, and certainly it's an unprofessional way to just go to the press and make these accusations.

LOPRESTI: Well Cambodia has lodged an official complaint and it says Thailand is trying to deflect public opinion from its own internal and political social problems, and that's what this is all about. Do you think that's a possibility?

CHANDLER: I think it's a good possibility, but I mean I think we just have to be careful about who these 11 people have spoken to, if they have gone to Cambodia, they wouldn't be official, I don't think it would be Cambodian officials, but you never know, that border's pretty porous, I think a lot of those Red Shirts fled into Cambodia to avoid arrest after those demonstrations last year. Some of the Red Shirts, people are pretty dedicated to overthrow the Thai government, so you just can't tell what happened. But I don't think they got official Cambodian backing, and I think again the whole thing does seem from a Cambodian point of view, just from the point of view down here, it's very unprofessional on the part of the Thais.

LOPRESTI: And it does put the Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva in a very awkward position. He's now urging the department to exercise caution when making public statements about Cambodia. He's clearly in damage control. Is this going to affect his relationship with Hun Sen do you think?

CHANDLER: That relationship's not very good but I think he's done the professional thing is to step back and say let's get those people professional about this, let's verify these charges. I think he's done quite a credible response to it all. But his relationship with Hun Sen is not going to improve for quite a while, I don't think there's any basis for it improve, especially since Hun Sen and Thaksin are so close or have been so close. So it's an ongoing game between these countries. Cambodia of course is much smaller, playing a riskier game than the Thais, with the Thais in this case making quite an unprofessional lunge into make the relationship even worse it seems to me.

LOPRESTI: As you mentioned I mean Thailand was outraged when Cambodia hired former Thai Premier Thaksin Shinawatra as its economic advisor in November 2009, and that led to both countries withdrawing their ambassadors. Will this latest row further hurt bilateral ties?

CHANDLER: It might, I don't see it'll hurt them as much as that last one, I've a feeling it's going to fizzle out, I don't have any special evidence for that. I think this is not so much as a slap for the Thais as the appointment of Thaksin was, which was more or a less direct snub of the existing Thai government. But Thaksin was facing trial for various charges at the time and so on, I think this is a smaller crisis. It depends how it's handled by both governments.

Thai FM to forward report on "Red-shirts" militants to Cambodia

October 13, 2010
Xinhua

Thailand's Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya said on Wednesday that he would submit the report on "Red- shirts" militants to Cambodian government for further examination.

Thai Department of Special Investigation (DSI) has recently unveiled that the 11 men arrested in the northern Chiang Mai Province earlier this month were the "Red-shirts" warriors who were, together with other 28 men, allegedly trained to use weapons and assemble explosives in Cambodia's northern province of Siem Reap.

The minister said as DSI officially released the information, the Foreign Ministry is obliged to present it to the Cambodian government and request for cooperative examination, which will be beneficial for the investigation of the concerned authorities.

However, he believed the issue would not yield adverse effect to the relationships between the two countries.

Thursday, October 14, 2010

Cambodia Says Thai Claims on Military Training Affects Relations

10 14, 2010
Victoria Chelsea
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Cambodia’s foreign ministry issued a press release on Wednesday afternoon saying the allegation made by Thailand is causing greater harms to the two countries’ relations.

“Cambodia strongly and totally rejects the allegation made by the Department of Special Investigation of Thailand (DSI), as reported by the press, that Cambodia has allowed armed training on its territory for members of the Red-shirt group to commit acts of terror against Thai government and plot assassination of top Thai government officials,” it said in the press release.

“Such unsubstantiated and malignant claim made by the DSI is causing greater harm to the Thai-Cambodia relations and, in effect, appears as an impediment to the efforts for improving ties between the two countries,” it said.


The Cambodia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued the statement several hours after Cambodia’s Prime Minister Hun Sen denied the charges while delivering speech to graduate students.

In addition to his denial, Hun Sen assured that Cambodia has obligation “to fight against terrorism” and Cambodia has no interest in interfering into the “internal affairs of Thailand”.

Cambodia and Thailand have had border dispute in 2008, about a week after Cambodia’s ancient Preah Vihear Temple was registered as World Heritage Site.

After then several rounds of gun fires were exchanged, and relations between the two nations were on and off until in recent weeks, while military presence from both sides remained at the border area near Preah Vihear Temple.

Prime Minister Hun Sen said on Wednesday that in his last recent meeting with Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejajjiva, in Brussels, Belgium on the sidelines of the ASEM Summit, he had discussed two particular points regarding the ratifications to be approved by Thailand parliament on agreements agreed earlier by the two governments and the second of which was on redeployment of the armed forces from the border area near the temple.

The two leaders will meet again later this month in Hanoi, Vietnam.

Kasit: No protest from Cambodia

14/10/2010
Thanida Tansubhapol
Bangkok Post

Cambodia has not sent any protest letter to Thailand nor clarified allegations by the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) that some red-shirts received weapons training at a camp near Siem Reap, Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya said on Thursday.

He also said the DSI had not yet reported the substance of its investigation to the ministry.

He said Cambodia's reaction through the media to the DSI's report was "normal".

"We will not retort because we can clarify the matter if there is any misunderstanding,’’ Mr Kasit said.




Last week, the DSI reported that 11 hard-core red-shirt supporters arrested in Chiang Mai province admitted to having undergone weapons training in Cambodia. High ranking Cambodian officials subsequently dismissed the claim in comments made to news reporters.

Mr Kasit said issue will not be raised in talks with United Nations Secretary-General Bun Ki Moon during his visit on Oct 26.

“Thailand will discuss the Preah Vihear temple matter in order to reaffirm its resolve to settle the problem under the existing memorandum of understanding,’’ he said.

“Thailand will also reiterate its desire to for peace and to develop the area with Cambodia, as well as welcoming the UN to join in the development,’’ said Mr Kasit.

Bangkok and Phnom Penh claim overlapping areas around Preah Vihear temple, and that has led to renewed conflict over the last year.

PM calls for caution in public

October 14, 2010
The Nation

Cambodia slams DSI for accusing it of allowing weapons

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday urged security officials to exercise caution while making public statements after Cambodia issued a strong statement denying it was sheltering and supporting weapons training for red shirts.

He said ongoing investigations into the activities of the red shirts would continue but officials should not verify and imply any information that would hurt bilateral relations as the probes were not completely over.

"Prime Minister Hun Sen has confirmed to me that Cambodian authorities had not been involved in any weapons training, and if the probes discover anything [otherwise], everything will be discussed directly between the governments of both countries.

"But first we need to acquire information upon completion of all investigations in hand," he added.

"We have to do things that are right and necessary, but giving a public statement over the issue requires extra caution. No country can allow weapons training to occur inside its territory against Thailand's security," he said.

Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya is set to hand over investigation reports by the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) indicating that weapons training was provided on Cambodian soil.

The Foreign Ministry would also make a statement in response to Cambodia's denial as well as ask for cooperation to verify the DSI reports. "I don't think bilateral relations have been affected over this issue," he added.

DSI director-general Tharit Pengdit said he had accepted a written protest from the Cambodian government against the DSI's statement about weapons training, but had stood by its intelligence reports with facts supplied by its agents on on-site active duty.

"All DSI officials have been instructed to be very careful about giving public statements that could affect Thai-Cambodian relations," he added.

Meanwhile, Pheu Thai MP Wisut Chaiyanarun vowed to resign if a Parliament contract employee could not defend her involvement in a Bt50,000 transaction. The money was eventually received by pro-red bomber Samai Wongsuwan, who was killed in a Nonthaburi apartment explosion last week.

Wasa Theprian, and an unnamed businessman involved in the transaction process, would meet with police tomorrow. Wisut, who sought employment for Wasa at Parliament, claimed that the businessman used Wasa to transfer the money to Kasi Ditthanarat one day after the explosion. Police had earlier said that Kasi gave some money to Samai and also allowed him the use of a pickup truck.

A former security guard working for Pheu Thai Party, Suksan Rangwiren, was yesterday afternoon handed over to Bangkok's Bang Rak police, who are investigating the discovery of an RPG launcher and four rockets found in a room rented under his name. He surrendered to police in Chumphon yesterday morning and denied any wrongdoing.

In a related development, Cambodia yesterday accused Thai authorities of playing "dirty games" and concocting evidence that the red shirts had received weapons training on its territory, Agence France-Presse reported.

In Phnom Penh, the Cambodian government strongly rejected the allegations, saying it would not allow foreigners to set up training camps on its territory. In a statement, a spokesman for the Council of Ministers accused Thai authorities of engaging in "malicious political manoeuvring" to link Cambodia to Thailand's internal problems.

Cambodia "strongly demands that Thailand's DSI put an end to the dirty games of concocting evidence to deflect Thailand's public opinion from Thailand's own internal political and social problems," he said.

Cambodia blasts Thailand over Red Shirt accusations

Thursday, October 14, 2010
By Michelle Fitzpatrick (AFP)

PHNOM PENH — Cambodia on Wednesday accused Thai authorities of playing "dirty games" and concocting evidence that anti-government "Red Shirts" had received weapons training on its territory.

Thailand's Department of Special Investigation (DSI) said that 11 Red Shirts picked up in the northern province of Chiang Mai this month had confessed to receiving three weeks of training in Siem Reap to assassinate politicians.

"When they came back to Thailand, they were sent to Chiang Mai to prepare for assignment. They told us that they were trained for sabotage and assassination," DSI chief Tharit Pengdit told AFP on Monday.

The 11 men, who are reportedly part of a larger group of 39 militants, will not face charges but will serve as witnesses in efforts to prosecute the people who organised the training, he added.


Prime Minister Hun Sen said that he had been in touch with his Thai counterpart Abhisit Vejjajiva about the allegations and asked him to clarify Bangkok's position.

In a speech at a university graduation ceremony, Hun Sen said Cambodia had a "responsibility to fight against terrorism" and that it would "not interfere in Thailand's internal affairs".

The government-owned Thai news website MCOT quoted Police Lieutenant Colonel Payao Thongsen as saying that the men were taken by Red Shirt leaders to Cambodia without passing legal immigration processes.

The Cambodian government strongly rejected the allegations, saying it would not allow foreigners to set up training camps on its territory.

In a statement, a spokesman for the Council of Ministers accused the Thai authorities of engaging in "malicious political manoeuvring" to link the country to Thailand's internal problems.

Cambodia "strongly demands that Thailand DSI put an end to the dirty games of concocting evidences to deflect Thailand public opinion from Thailand's own internal political and social problems," he said.

Mass anti-government rallies by the Red Shirts in the heart of Bangkok in April and May left 91 people dead -- mainly civilians -- in clashes between demonstrators and armed soldiers.

The Thai government has blamed the movement for a recent string of bomb blasts, but the Reds deny any involvement and have accused the authorities of a conspiracy to justify tough security powers and tarnish the Reds' image.

Ties between Thailand and Cambodia have been strained since a long-running dispute over a border temple flared up in 2008, and the Red Shirt row threatens to reverse a recent thaw in relations.

In another statement, Cambodia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs said the "unsubstantiated and malignant claim made by the DSI is causing greater harm to the Thai-Cambodian relations".

Thailand was outraged when Cambodia hired ousted former Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra, a hero to many of the Reds, as an economic adviser in November 2009.

The move led to both countries withdrawing their ambassadors and relations were not fully restored until Thaksin resigned in August of this year.

Thai PM cautions over Red Shirt arms training claim

BANGKOK, Oct 13 (MCOT online news) -- Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva on Wednesday cautioned the public that report of alleged arms training for hard-core anti-government Red Shirt activists on Cambodian soil was merely information obtained in investigation which has yet to be verified, saying he will discuss the issue with his Cambodian counterpart once the investigation is concluded.

Speaking to reporters after meeting with Thailand's National Security Council (NSC) Secretary-General Tawin Pleansri who briefed him regarding the overall security review, Mr Abhisit said he ordered security-related officials to verify any information and exercise caution before giving any news briefings.

"They should not giving any confirmation that could lead to misunderstandings between neighbouring countries," he said.

He said his Cambodian counterpart Hun Sen denied that there was arms training of an anti-Thai government group on Cambodian soil but Thailand is obliged to verify the information.


"The Thai government has not made any accusation. At this stage, the issue is being investigated and is in the process of verification," the Thai prime minister asserted, adding that he would talk with Mr Hun Sen once the verified information is received.

Mr Abhisit however said the Thai government would not allow any group of people to use another country [as a base] to undermine the kingdom's stability.

Meanwhile, the Thai Foreign Ministry said it would ask the Cambodian government for cooperation to probe the alleged arms training of hard-core anti-government Red Shirt activists on Cambodian soil.

Thai Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya said when the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) concludes its investigation, the foreign ministry will submit the report to Cambodia and ask Phnom Penh to help verify it.

The Thai foreign minister said he believed the issue will not have any adverse impact on bilateral ties.

NSC Secretary-General Tawin on Tuesday confirmed information from the DSI which said that 11 men arrested in a raid on a resort in the northern province of Chiang Mai and suspected of planning acts of terror claimed that they and 28 others underwent weapons training in Cambodia.

The Cambodian government on Wednesday, again, strongly rejected the allegations.

Agence France-Presse (AFP), a French news agency, quoted a statement by a spokesman for the Council of Ministers as saying that "Cambodia will neither allow foreigners to set up training camps nor military bases on Cambodian territory."

According to the statement, he accused the Thai authorities of engaging in "malicious political manoeuvring" to link the country to Thailand's internal problems.

"Cambodia strongly demands that Thailand's DSI put an end to the dirty games of concocting evidence to deflect Thai public opinion from Thailand's own internal political and social problems," the statement said.

[Thailand's Gen.] Thawatchai slams DSI over terror report

14/10/2010
Bangkok Post

The commander of the 2nd Army Region covering the area adjoining the eastern border has slammed special investigators for a report claiming Thais received terrorist training in Cambodia.

Thawatchai Samutsakhon said yesterday the Department of Special Investigation should have been more discreet and sought to avoid inflaming tensions between the two countries.

Lt Gen Thawatchai called the DSI "tactless" for making public information it had received after arresting 11 men at a resort in Chiang Mai 12 days ago. It had only upset Phnom Penh and complicated bilateral ties in the absence of substantive evidence.

"The best way to approach an issue which could lead to friction is not to mention other countries," he said.


The DSI claimed on Monday the group of 11 men had admitted to receiving weapons training in Cambodia together with 28 other men in preparation to carry out acts of terrorism in Thailand.

Lt Gen Thawatchai said he doubted the training took place in Cambodia. The DSI had not asked the 2nd Army Region, which oversees the Cambodian border, for information.

The DSI report drew an angry response from Cambodia yesterday which accused Thai authorities of playing "dirty games" and of concocting evidence, an AFP report said.

"Cambodia strongly demands that Thailand's DSI put an end to the dirty games of concocting evidence to deflect Thailand public opinion from Thailand's own internal political and social problems," a spokesman for the Council of Ministers said, as quoted by AFP.

Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen said he had been in touch with his Thai counterpart, Abhisit Vejjajiva, about the allegations and asked him to clarify Bangkok's position, the report said.

Hun Sen said in a speech at a university graduation ceremony that Cambodia had a "responsibility to fight against terrorism" and that it would "not interfere in Thailand's internal affairs".

Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya yesterday played down speculation the DSI report would affect relations with Cambodia.

He said he expected the two countries to look into the report together to get the facts right.

The Foreign Ministry has asked the DSI for information to give to Cambodia to help with its investigation into the charges.

"I believe that this situation will not affect bilateral relations. When it is news, the two nations should discuss it together," Mr Kasit said.

"Thailand has to send information from the DSI to Cambodian officials to ask for their cooperation in checking the facts."

Wednesday, October 13, 2010

Cambodian leader denies training alleged Thai terrorists, presses Bangkok on allegations

Wednesday, October 13, 2010
By Sopheng Cheang (CP)

PHNOM PENH, Cambodia — Cambodia's leader pressed Thailand on Wednesday to explain why its security officials had accused his country of being a training ground for alleged Thai terrorists.

A senior official at Thailand's Department of Special Investigation said Monday that 39 members of Thailand's anti-government "Red Shirt" movement had been trained at a military base inside Cambodia and were plotting to assassinate the Thai prime minister and other top officials. Phnom Penh immediately denied the allegations.

Prime Minister Hun Sen said he exchanged text messages with his Thai counterpart, Abhisit Vejjajiva, over the issue and was told the DSI comments "do not wholly reflect the position of the Thai government."


"The comments raised by the ... DSI and the SMS I received (from Abhisit) were contradictory. Therefore, I need an explanation about this issue," Hun Sen said.

Separately, Thai Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya said in Bangkok he would send information about the allegations to Cambodia in hopes of enlisting its co-operation. He said he hoped the issue would not affect relations between the neighbours.

The DSI official told a news conference Monday that 11 alleged Red Shirts arrested last week in the northern Thai province of Chiang Mai were among 39 given ideological and combat training at the Cambodian base, including how to use assault rifles, grenade launchers and explosives.

Other Thai officials have since backtracked, saying the matter was still under investigation.

Hun Sen, a former guerrilla fighter, noted that Thai men are subject to conscription and military training, so he did not see the need to have them retrained in Cambodia. He also said he also doubted that they would be able to master the weapons in the three-week period they allegedly trained.

The Red Shirts — formally called the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship — held street demonstrations in Bangkok from March to May this year, demanding early elections. The protests degenerated into violence, and about 90 people, mostly protesters, were killed in clashes before the army cleared the streets.

Most top Red Shirt leaders have been detained on terrorism charges, which they deny and say are politically motivated.

Bangkok has been plagued this year by dozens of bombings widely thought to be linked to the political strife.

Cambodia's relations with Thailand have been contentious for decades, and have been exacerbated recently by a territorial dispute as well as Hun Sen's friendly relations with former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who was ousted in a 2006 coup.

The Red Shirts include many Thaksin supporters.

Cambodia blasts Thailand over Red Shirt accusations

PHNOM PENH, Wednesday 13 October 2010 (AFP) - Cambodia on Wednesday accused Thai authorities of playing "dirty games" and concocting evidence that anti-government "Red Shirts" had received weapons training on its territory.

Thailand's Department of Special Investigation (DSI) said that 11 Red Shirts picked up in the northern province of Chiang Mai this month had confessed to receiving three weeks of training in Siem Reap to assassinate politicians.

"When they came back to Thailand, they were sent to Chiang Mai to prepare for assignment. They told us that they were trained for sabotage and assassination," DSI chief Tharit Pengdit told AFP on Monday.

The 11 men, who are reportedly part of a larger group of 39 militants, will not face any charges but serve as witnesses in efforts to prosecute the people who organised the training, he added.


The government-owned Thai news website MCOT quoted Police Lieutenant Colonel Payao Thongsen as saying that the men were taken by Red Shirt leaders to Cambodia without passing legal immigration processes.

The Cambodian government on Wednesday strongly rejected the allegations.

"Cambodia will neither allow foreigners to set up training camps nor military bases on Cambodian territory," a spokesman for the Council of Ministers said in a statement.

He accused the Thai authorities of engaging in "malicious political manoeuvring" to link the country to Thailand's internal problems.

Cambodia "strongly demands that Thailand DSI put an end to the dirty games of concocting evidences to deflect Thailand public opinion from Thailand's own internal political and social problems," the statement said.

Mass anti-government rallies by the Red Shirts in the heart of Bangkok in April and May left 91 people dead -- mainly civilians -- in clashes between demonstrators and armed soldiers.

The government has blamed the movement for a string of bomb blasts in recent weeks, but the Reds deny any involvement and have accused the authorities of a conspiracy to justify tougher security powers and tarnish their image.

PM Hun Sen denies Thai report on offering military training

October 13, 2010
Xinhua

Cambodia's Prime Minister Hun Sen denied Wednesday that his country had offered any military training to Thai civilians.

Delivering a speech to graduate students in Phnom Penh, Hun Sen made a public denial and instead he assured that Cambodia has obligation "to fight against terrorism" and Cambodia has no interest in interfering into the "internal affairs of Thailand".

Hun Sen denied the charges after Thailand's Department of Special Investigation claimed that 11 Thais arrested early this month in Thailand's northern province of Chiang Mai, had said they were taken to Cambodia along with 39 others and were trained on the use of arms.

The DIS allegedly charged the claim by referring it to the 11 arrested as saying they were trained in Cambodia's northern province of Siem Reap.

Cambodia has made subsequent denials on the charges, saying the country's constitution stipulates that it never accept and accommodate any foreign movement that is aimed at fighting their own respecting governments and nor military bases allowed in the country.

Cambodia and Thailand have had a border dispute in 2008, about a week after Cambodia's ancient Preah Vihear Temple was registered as the World Heritage Site.

After then several rounds of gun fires were exchanged, and relations between the two nations were on and off until in recent weeks, while military presence from both sides remained at the border area near the Preah Vihear Temple.

Prime Minister Hun Sen said on Wednesday that in his last recent meeting with Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejajjiva, in Brussels, Belgium on the sidelines of the ASEM Summit, he had discussed two particular points regarding the ratifications to be approved by the Thailand parliament on agreements reached earlier by the two governments and the second of which was on redeployment of the armed forces from the border area near the temple.

The two leaders will meet again later this month in Hanoi, Vietnam.

[Thailand's] Ties with Cambodia strained over reds

Wed, Oct 13, 2010
The Nation/Asia News Network

Thailand and Cambodia have found their newly restored relations at another highly delicate juncture after a Thai police investigation revealed militant red shirts were allegedly trained in Siem Reap.

The Cambodian government yesterday denied that red militants had been trained on its soil to carry out acts of terror in Thailand, while in Bangkok the government tried to cushion the impact on bilateral ties by saying Phnom Penh leaders had no policy of supporting such alleged training.

The bombshell allegations were made by the Department of Special Investigation on Monday and backed up by the National Security Council (NSC) yesterday.

Cambodian Information Minister Khieu Kanharith said his country would receive no benefit from either sheltering or training red militants, while the spokesman's office for the Cambodian government said the report was a fabrication, and that giving weapons training to foreigners was against its constitution.

A statement released yesterday by the spokesman's office claimed the allegation was a Thai government plan to undermine the red-shirt movement for political gain.

"It's a nonsense that Cambodia would want to have problems with anyone for no reason," the statement said.

The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) cited interviews with 11 men accused of seeking weapons training, who were arrested recently at a Chiang Mai resort.

And it released details of similar weapons training for another 24 men in Cambodia.

DSI director-general Tharit Phengdit said yesterday details about Cambodia's training of some 39 red militants needed further verification.

Media reports cited different numbers of red militants becoming active after completion of weapons courses they attended, either in Thailand or elsewhere.

The total number mentioned is 64 overall, with four allegedly assigned as bodyguards for wanted militant Arisman Pongruengrong.

Details from interviews with the 11 men, who have sought protection with the DSI and given much more information, will forwarded to the government's Centre for Resolution for the Emergency Situation (CRES).

It will then decide how to deal with the issue, with advice from the Foreign Ministry.

Spokesman Panitan Wattanaya-gorn said Cambodia's denial about weapons training was being verified, but the issue would be discussed between Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his counterpart Hun Sen at the 17th Asean meeting in Vietnam on October 28-30.

He said Hun Sen had pledged to look into the matter to determine "how credible it could have been" after he met with Abhisit at the Asia Europe Meeting in Brussels on October 4 and 5.

Panitan said the Brussels meeting had a good atmosphere and both leaders made an unofficial pledge to exchange intelligence tip-offs about criminals from one country fleeing to the other.

He said the weapons training courses included bomb-making, demolition, use of firearms and grenade launchers, and given only to successful candidates.

The CRES was keeping a close watch on hard-core red-shirt groups.

"Security officials will keep pressuring them to prevent them from being fully active," he added.

NSC secretary-general Thawit Pliansri had confirmed the DSI's intelligence report about the red militants receiving weapons training in Cambodia.

Justice Minister Pirapan Sali-rathavibhaga said more details were being gathered to verify that Arisman had been linked to the weapons training before Thailand decides whether to ask Cambodia to extradite him to face indictments here.

[Thailand] DSI expands Siem Reap terror probe

Panitan: Cambodia report ‘preliminary’

Agency defends red shirt camp allegations

13/10/201o

Bangkok Post

The Department of Special Investigation is seeking to substantiate claims it made that a group of red shirt supporters underwent weapons training in Cambodia after Phnom Penh strenuously denied the allegation.

Eleven men were arrested on Oct 2 at Doi Ku Fah resort in Chiang Mai's Mae On subdistrict. They allegedly told DSI investigators they were among 39 red shirt supporters who received training in Siem Reap in preparation to assassinate key public figures, including former deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban.

Panitan Wattanayagorn, the prime minister's deputy secretary-general, said the DSI was now trying to verify the claims.

Mr Panitan said Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his Cambodian counterpart, Hun Sen, had discussed the issue on the sidelines of the Asia-Europe Summit in Brussels last week. Cambodia had promised to investigate the claims.

Cambodian government spokesman Phay Siphan on Monday denied any red shirts had received weapons training in the country, calling the allegation a"made-up story to blame Cambodia".

Mr Panitan said the DSI's reports of a training camp in Cambodia were based on preliminary information, but an investigation was under way to look into the travel records of those alleged to have trained there.

The Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation had assigned officers to closely monitor the movements of certain groups bent on inciting unrest, he said.

National Security Council (NSC) secretary-general Thawil Pliensri yesterday denied the DSI had fabricated the story about the weapons training.

Mr Thawil said DSI investigator Phayao Thongsen was only repeating what the 11 suspects told him.

Justice Minister Pirapan Salirathavibhaga said some of the confessions obtained from the 11 suspects matched information received by security authorities.

Meanwhile, red shirt leader and Puea Thai Party MP Jatuporn Prompan has denied threatening to kill former core red shirt member Methi Amornwutthikul.

Mr Methi, now a prosecution witness in several cases involving red shirt leaders, asked the DSI to seek a court order to revoke Mr Jatuporn's bail. Mr Methi alleged Mr Jatuporn, who has been charged with terrorist offences but remains free because of his MP status, had threatened his life over the phone.

Mr Jatuporn said yesterday he had never phoned Mr Methi.

Mr Methi, a former actor, also alleged red shirt leaders had siphoned off about 68 million baht that had been donated to the red shirt movement while the group's rally was taking place earlier this year and fled to Malaysia. He said Mr Jatuporn knew about the matter.

Mr Jatuporn said the red shirt movement received only 37 million baht in donations and it had spent it all before the rally came to an end.

Tuesday, October 12, 2010

Cambodia denies Thai assassination plot charges

Tue Oct 12, 2010
By Prak Chan Thul

PHNOM PENH (Reuters) - Cambodia denied on Tuesday accusations from neighbouring Thailand that a Cambodian military base was used to train Thais linked to a plot to assassinate Thailand's leaders.

Thailand's Department of Special Investigation (DSI) said on Monday 11 Thai men arrested in northern Thailand last week were among 39 "red-shirt" protesters who trained in Cambodia after fleeing Thailand following military clamp-down on anti-government protests in May.

"The Thais always put the blame on Cambodia when they cannot solve their internal problems," said Koy Kuong, a spokesman at Cambodia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The accusations threaten to rekindle tensions between the Southeast Asian neighbours whose relations have deteriorated over border disputes and Cambodia's ties to former Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra, whose 2006 ouster triggered Thailand's four-year-old political crisis.

This comes as Thailand stepped up security following a series of mysterious bomb blasts in the capital last week. A blast that killed four people on October 6 in a suburban Bangkok flat had raised fears of a possible radicalisation of some anti-government protesters in Southeast Asia's second-biggest economy.

"These 11 red fighters were fed misinformation and brainwashed through videos and CDs which were anti-monarchy," Lieutenant Colonel Payao Thongsen, a DSI senior investigator, told a news conference in Bangkok. Thailand's strict les majeste laws prohibit discussion of the Thai monarchy.

He said the men were trained to use weapons and explosives at a military base in Cambodia's Siem Reap province, near the Thai border. Thongsen based his accusations on the detainees' confessions and confiscated maps of the homes of Thai leaders.

Diplomatic ties between the two countries were severed last November after Cambodia appointed Thaksin as economic advisor. He is believed to be a source of funds for the "red shirt" anti-government protesters who clashed with Thai troops in April and May.

Relations were normalised when Thaksin resigned from the position in August, although Thai officials continued to express concerns about links between the Cambodian government and the "red shirts."
Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has not commented on the accusations by the DSI, who has been criticised frequently by the opposition as a political tool for the government.

(Additional reporting by Pracha Hariraksapitak; Writing by Ambika Ahuja; Editing by Jason Szep and Tomasz Janowski)

Thai PM to seek clarification from Cambodian PM on alleged Red Shirt arms training

BANGKOK, Oct 12 (MCOT online news) - Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva will query his Cambodian counterpart Hun Sen on reports of arms training for hard-core anti-government Red Shirt activists on Cambodian soil when both leaders meet at a regional summit later this month, according to acting Thai government spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn.

Speaking Tuesday, Dr Panitan commented shortly after Secretary-General Tawin Pleansri of Thailand's National Security Council (NSC) confirmed information from the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) which said that 11 men arrested in a raid on a resort in the northern province of Chiang Mai and suspected of planning acts of terror claimed that they and 28 others underwent weapons training in Cambodia.

Mr Tawin confirmed that Thai security-related agencies are watching the Red Shirt movement for signs of further weapons training.

The DSI established the facts obtained during its investigation, Mr Tawin said, but they must be further verified before taking any legal action.

"The verification of the report is underway, and some [other] agencies confirmed similar information," said Dr Panitan.

Cambodia dismissed the allegations and accused the Thai authorities as having fabricated the report, Dr Panitan said the Abhisit government is awaiting the result of further investigation, while expressing confidence that the issue will not worsen the relationship between the two neighbouring countries, as their leaders and senior officials have good understanding.

"The prime minister will seek clarification on the case when he attends the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) summit scheduled to be held in Vietnam at the end of this month," said the government spokesman.

Pol Lt Col Payao Thongsen, chief of DSI investigators probing terrorism charge-related activities, on Monday said that 39 Thai men have been trained for arms use in Cambodia for a mission to assassinate key Thai public figures including the prime minister, according to the confession of 11 men detained in Chiang Mai.

Col Payao said the 11 suspects confessed to being members of the anti-government movement, the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), and that they were 11 among the 39 men who were recruited and taken by Red Shirt leaders to Cambodia without passing legal immigration processes for three-week arms training in a Cambodian army camp.

Cambodian authorities denied accusations immediately after the report of its involvement.

"Why would we need to do this? Cambodia would receive absolutely no benefit from training these people,'' the Associated Press quoted Cambodian government spokesman Khieu Kanharith as saying on Tuesday.

"Cambodia strongly rejects these allegations,'' he said.

[Thai] NSC: Reds did train in Cambodia

12/10/2010
Bangkok Post

The National Security Council confirmed that a group of red-shirts did train in Cambodia to assassinate high-profile politicians.

"The information released by the Department of Special Investigation about the 11 detained red-shirts confessing that they took part in arms training in the neighbouring country is true.

"But we are not making any accusation against Cambodia," NSC secretary-general Thawil Pliensri said on Tuesday.

The 11 suspects who supported the anti-government movement led by the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) were arrested in Chiang Mai on Oct 2, and were being held without charge under the witness protection programme.

As for the deadly explosion in an apartment in Nonthaburi last Tuesday, which killed four people including the bombmaker, Mr Thawil said the police had transferred the case to DSI.

"There's a possibility the blast could be politically motivated but we'll have to wait for the DSI to finish the investigation first," he said.

On the Thai-Burma border closure, he said there were many problems at the border and Burman was working on its internal trade regulations and establishing an industrial zone.

"I don't think the dam construction plan is the main reason Burma closes the border," he said.

Cambodia denies Thai assasination plot allegations

Tuesday, October 12, 2010
By GRANT PECK (AP)

BANGKOK — Cambodia on Tuesday strongly denied allegations in Thailand that members of the anti-government Red Shirt movement were trained in Cambodian territory to assassinate top Thai leaders, including the prime minister.

A senior Thai security official alleged Monday that 11 men who were arrested last week in the northern Thai province of Chiang Mai were among 39 given ideological and combat training in a "neighboring country."

Lt. Col. Payao Thongsen, a senior investigator for the Department of Special Investigation, did not name the country when he made the allegation at a news conference. But he described the routes the men allegedly took to their training ground, which led to Cambodian border crossings.

Cambodia denied the accusation.

"Why would we need to do this? Cambodia would receive absolutely no benefit from training these people," government spokesman Khieu Kanharith said Tuesday. "Cambodia strongly rejects these allegations."

Cambodia's relations with Thailand have been contentious for years, with the focus mostly on a border dispute.

The Thai allegations also raise the stakes domestically in an increasingly convoluted political battle that began in 2006, when elected Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra was ousted by a military coup for alleged corruption and disrespect toward Thailand's revered King Bhumibol Adulyadej.

The coup, which was touted as a way to restore stability after months of anti-Thaksin demonstrations that had all but paralyzed his administration, instead polarized the country, with Thaksin's opponents and supporters both protesting in the streets ever since.

The Red Shirts include many Thaksin supporters as well as activists opposed to military interference in politics.

Two months of protests earlier this year by the Red Shirts — formally called the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship, or UDD — demanding early elections degenerated into violence. About 90 people were killed in clashes before the army cleared the streets of demonstrators on May 19. Most top Red Shirt leaders have been detained on terrorism charges.

Dozens of bombings widely thought to be linked to the political strife have also plagued Bangkok this year.

Payao said the 39 alleged trainees were part of a conspiracy to topple Thailand's monarchy, an allegation that his agency — the equivalent of the FBI in the United States — has made in the past against Red Shirts and their sympathizers.

"During the training, they were taught by the Thai UDD members who were in the neighboring country about political beliefs and more importantly about hatred toward the institution," he said in an interview with the government-owned MCOT television network.

"The institution" is a common euphemism for the monarchy, which until recent years has been held in almost universal high regard. However, some Red Shirts and social critics perceive that some palace circles were involved in the coup.

A report on MCOT's Web site said that Payao asserted that the alleged terrorists' three weeks of training "was held in a Cambodian army camp and they were trained by Cambodian soldiers." The website of several Thai newspapers cited him making the same assertion.

Payao said the men were "trained to know almost every kind of weapon," including assault rifles and grenade launchers, and were also shown the use of C4 plastic explosive.

He did not explain why Cambodia would be involved in such a conspiracy.

The two nations have had small, sometimes deadly, skirmishes over the demarcation of their border near the 11th century Preah Vihear temple. Relations worsened last year, with both countries withdrawing ambassadors, after Cambodian leader Hun Sen made Thaksin an official adviser and hosted him like a VIP. Thaksin recently resigned that position, and both countries restored their ambassadors.

MCOT reported that Payao said the alleged assassination targets included Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, recently resigned Deputy Prime Minster Suthep Thaugsuban, influential politician Newin Chidchob and a senior police officer.

Payao displayed what he said was evidence of the plot, including maps and photos. None of the 11 men arrested in Chiang Mai have been produced for the press to give their side of the story.

MCOT reported that Jatuporn Prompan, a Red Shirt leader and member of Parliament, denied that his movement was part of any assassination plot.

Monday, October 11, 2010

Thai official: Red Shirts plotted assassinations

Monday, October 11, 2010
AP

BANGKOK — A Thai security official has charged that members of the anti-government Red Shirt group were given training in Cambodia to assassinate top Thai leaders, including the prime minister.

Police Lt. Col. Payao Thongsen of the Department of Special Investigation told reporters Monday that 11 men arrested last week in northern Thailand were among 39 given ideological and combat training in a "neighboring country."

Maps he displayed of the routes the men allegedly took to their training ground led to Cambodian border crossings.

Two months of Red Shirt protests earlier this year calling for early elections degenerated into violence. About 90 people were killed by the time the army cleared the streets of demonstrators on May 19.

There was no immediate comment from Cambodia.