Hor Nam Hong (L) and Sam Rainsy (R)Sam Rainsy uses King-Father to shield himself after Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit
Saturday 26 April 2008
By Brevin Rasmei Kampuchea Daily Newspaper
Translated from Khmer by Socheata
Phnom Penh – On 25 April, opposition leader Sam Rainsy pushed vice-prime minister Hor Nam Hong to sue Hero-King Norodom Sihanouk who is currently residing in Siem Reap province, saying that he is only repeating what King Norodom Sihanouk said only, therefore, if Hor Nam Hong sues him, he should sue King-Father instead.
From Vancouver, Canada, where he is drumming support from overseas Cambodian people, Sam Rainsy told Rasmei Kampuchea over the phone that: “I only repeated what the former monarch said only. Therefore, if I am sued, he should sue King Norodom Sihanouk instead.”
He added that: “This is not my problem. I have sufficient document. This is not Sam Rainsy’s issue.”
Sam Rainsy involved this issue on former Hero-King, by basing on the event which took place 18-year ago in Paris, when King-Father accused Hor Nam Hong as the Boeng Trabek jail chief, and then, Hor Nam Hong sued the king back at the French tribunal. Sam Rainsy reminded that that in 1990, he helped find a lawyer to defend King-Father against Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit. He added also that, at that time King-Father lost the case in the first trial, however, he could have won if he decided to appeal the case and he would gather witnesses from Cambodia to oppose the case in the French tribunal. But, King-Father did not want to see the case lengthened, and he decided not to appeal the case.
At the same time he is pushing Hor Nam Hong to sue the Hero-King rather than him, Sam Rainsy also said that he will help King-Father to clean up the former monarch’s honor. He said that he has witnesses whose relatives, parents died at Boeng Trabek. He will bring these witnesses to the court to confirm that what King-Father said was true. He said that any lawsuit brought up against him will help him receive more support from the Cambodian people. He said: “If they sue me, they help provide advertisement for me, therefore, I thank them.”
Beside this, Sam Rainsy said that this lawsuit against him at the Phnom Penh municipal court is not correct. The lawsuit should be brought to the KR Tribunal which includes the UN participation because this issue is related to the Pol Pot regime.
On 22 April, Hor Nam Hong sued Sam Rainsy for diffusing false information and defamation, after Sam Rainsy accused him (KI-Media note: in fact Sam Rainsy did not name Hor Nam Hong by name) of being the Beong Trabek jail chief during the SRP commemoration for the victims of the KR regime held on 17 April 2008, at the Choeung Ek Memorial killing field. However, besides saying that he was only repeating King-Father’s words, Sam Rainsy also said that, at the time, he did not name Hor Nam Hong explicitly.
According to the Cambodian law, Sam Rainsy could face jail sentence if the court find him guilty of diffusing false information insulting Hor Nam Hong. The lawsuit against Sam Rainsy creates concerns that it could block the political life of the opposition leader, and it will mar the political atmosphere just before the upcoming 27 July 2008 election. However, Hor Nam Hong said that he will end the lawsuit in order to lighten up the atmosphere, should Sam Rainsy apologizes to him and he recognizes that he misspoke. However, Sam Rainsy plans to return to Cambodia on 29 April, and there is no apology given by Sam Rainsy at this time.
From Vancouver, Canada, where he is drumming support from overseas Cambodian people, Sam Rainsy told Rasmei Kampuchea over the phone that: “I only repeated what the former monarch said only. Therefore, if I am sued, he should sue King Norodom Sihanouk instead.”
He added that: “This is not my problem. I have sufficient document. This is not Sam Rainsy’s issue.”
Sam Rainsy involved this issue on former Hero-King, by basing on the event which took place 18-year ago in Paris, when King-Father accused Hor Nam Hong as the Boeng Trabek jail chief, and then, Hor Nam Hong sued the king back at the French tribunal. Sam Rainsy reminded that that in 1990, he helped find a lawyer to defend King-Father against Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit. He added also that, at that time King-Father lost the case in the first trial, however, he could have won if he decided to appeal the case and he would gather witnesses from Cambodia to oppose the case in the French tribunal. But, King-Father did not want to see the case lengthened, and he decided not to appeal the case.
At the same time he is pushing Hor Nam Hong to sue the Hero-King rather than him, Sam Rainsy also said that he will help King-Father to clean up the former monarch’s honor. He said that he has witnesses whose relatives, parents died at Boeng Trabek. He will bring these witnesses to the court to confirm that what King-Father said was true. He said that any lawsuit brought up against him will help him receive more support from the Cambodian people. He said: “If they sue me, they help provide advertisement for me, therefore, I thank them.”
Beside this, Sam Rainsy said that this lawsuit against him at the Phnom Penh municipal court is not correct. The lawsuit should be brought to the KR Tribunal which includes the UN participation because this issue is related to the Pol Pot regime.
On 22 April, Hor Nam Hong sued Sam Rainsy for diffusing false information and defamation, after Sam Rainsy accused him (KI-Media note: in fact Sam Rainsy did not name Hor Nam Hong by name) of being the Beong Trabek jail chief during the SRP commemoration for the victims of the KR regime held on 17 April 2008, at the Choeung Ek Memorial killing field. However, besides saying that he was only repeating King-Father’s words, Sam Rainsy also said that, at the time, he did not name Hor Nam Hong explicitly.
According to the Cambodian law, Sam Rainsy could face jail sentence if the court find him guilty of diffusing false information insulting Hor Nam Hong. The lawsuit against Sam Rainsy creates concerns that it could block the political life of the opposition leader, and it will mar the political atmosphere just before the upcoming 27 July 2008 election. However, Hor Nam Hong said that he will end the lawsuit in order to lighten up the atmosphere, should Sam Rainsy apologizes to him and he recognizes that he misspoke. However, Sam Rainsy plans to return to Cambodia on 29 April, and there is no apology given by Sam Rainsy at this time.
32 comments:
Oh enough rhetorics already, this is certainly ain't going to bail him out of libel charge. Moreover, it's stupid to suggest Hor Nam Hong to file a civil case with the ECCC. He's bluffing. If there is such witnesses Hor Nam Hong would have been arrested long ago. And if Sam Rainsy got such witness and not provided their names to the ECCC, that will make him part of an accessory to criminals.
The bottom line is Sam Rainsy isn't smart enough to throw our court a curve ball. The truth will come out, and he'll get the max for sure.
In country such as Australia and NZ, if a minister of the government is being alleged by opposition leader, that minister should be resigned from his post for a full investigation for his crime. He cannot sue anyone yet while he has still to defence his allegation. Until his is cleared from his allegation, the Prime minister can then decide to re-instate him back to his post. If during his investigation, he has found a crime, then, he has to resign completey from his member of parliament and be sentenced for his crime. But if after the investigation, he found no crime, then he can sue back for his lost of his salary during his resignation. According to this story, Hor Nam Hong should resign from his ministerial position and stay as a back bencher and allow all investigation aganist him. Areak Prey
You comedian Viet troller @5:16 PM that pretends to be Cambodian here on KI-Media doesn't seem to get it, do you?
Go home Viet!
The world knows you Viet true color already!
Cut the bullshit, stupid (5:29), there is no such thing. If that were true, all Sam Rainsy had to do is to claimed everyone a Khmer Rouge Crimal, and no one is left to run the election against him. That is yet the dumbest lied I ever heard of.
In fact the King Father did not present himself in front of the tribunal nor did he appealed the decision of the first instance Paris tribunal because he feared that the Peace Process for Cambodia would be derailed by such legal case and he felt that the end of the Vietnamese occupation of Cambodia and the return of peace and independence to Cambodia was more important that the legal case in Paris.
However, Princess Sisowath Ayravady, whose mother Neak Moneang Plous (wife of HRH Prince Norodom Phurissara) was killed together with the Prince by the KR, issued a written statement pointing out that a number of people had disappeared from Bang Trabek while Hor Nam Hong was "Head of Prisoners". So did, the late Madame Ieng Kounsaky and others. In fact most of the families of "Sihanoukist" Ambassadors who had rallied to Sihanouk after the 18 March 1970, people like Huot Sambath, Chea San, Chak Sarik, Isoup Ghanty and Nou Pech, to name a few, until this day blame Hor Namhong for the death of their respective husbands, fathers, mothers and relatives at the Bang Trabek Concentration Camp under the direction of Ieng Sary and with Hor Namhong as "Head of Prisoners"
Wow I like his name so much because My name is Hor 5(Pramm) Keam Bouy Hong.
Ah Hor Nam Hong was a Khmer Rouge.
So was Kiet Chhun.
Sir @ 5:16 PM,
You pretend to know the law. But your argument on the case has no substance.
That is your jungle court, right! If the court for justice, the ball would be not be curve, but it would be straight between your eyes.
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Thank you, Sir @ 7:56 PM for sharing.
It is outrageous that all these fucken former Khmer Rouges are untouchable by law!
Just like the grenades attacked on Sam Rainsy peaceful demonstrators and American citizen which killed 20 Cambodian people and injured more 100 Cambodian people and the FBI found out that it is AH HUN SEN military bodyguard who did it and yet no justice!
AH HOR NAM HONG is guilty by his association!
Many posters here always claim for law and order and respect for the rule of law. Then this case must viewed in the context of applicable legal procedures. First, this case is full of inconsistencies. Obviously, the lawsuit in France is the last legal word on it. It is significant that Sihanouk did not appeal. By not appealing he accepted and acknowledged the verdict. He was wrong in naming Hor Nam Hong in the first place if he was afraid the entire affair would derail the peace process. If Sam Rainsy now moves Hor Nam Hong into the proximity of the prison warden, or jail chief, or insinuating that he was instrumental in killing people in Boeng Trabek, even if not mentioning his name directly, but indicating his person as a possible accomplice in view of that French verdict he must realize that he may be subject to a libel lawsuit. He always proclaims everybody must abide by the law. But he must be the first to do so. He can't just except himself at will. Now he is risking being immobilized before the election. He may not have thought through his remarks when he made them, as he is often prone to do. He just seems a little too impulsive. This is something the leading opposition politician can't afford under the circumstances. Given the French verdict it must be assumed he will be found guilty under the current Cambodian judicial system. Let's see what happens. An interesting case.
there is no rules of law in the commnunist/ dictator country like cambodia, when you about rules of law-mean you take to the sky. the CPP rules, a king, and hunxen rule the country. the rest just yelling waa, waa, waa!!! if you want the rules of law vote sam raingsy!
"One of the most hardworking men for cambodia right now is Sam Rainsey"
Vote and support his party khmer people.
Hello Poster 6:18PM,
As I have said before in every advance countries, all elected position must have their manuals. So all ministers must have their ministerial manual too. So all the members of Parlament must also have their manual with full description for what they can and what they cannot. All the information included their salary, their allowance and their full political right. All alleged persons cannot sue their plentif without making a defence first. To defence their allegation all alleged person must resign from their position for a full investigation. Until this person be cleared from investigation, that person can be re-instated to their old position from PM. Without having cleared from investigation, that person cannot even entering their name for another election. Without having his name during election that person will not be able to work in the parliament as an MP at all. You can ask this problem to Mr Meng LYQSM at mengly.org
During Pol Pot, you know, many people died because other people who were in a position of power, be big or small, had the urge to abuse their position. Often just to show to Pol Pot KRs that they were with them in order to survive themselves, so in the process they victimised other people around them. This happened to a lot of arrests and killings throughout the country. Those local leaders too it into their own hand. The word Khmang was so general, up to local leaders to interpret.
Hor Nam Hong , I believe, was in the same position. Madam Keo Bunthurk, before she died, said the same thing about Hor Nam Hong, that he caused the death of her husband. Not just the father, even his son, Hor Nam Bora, was a powerful figure in the yough group, at Boeng Tra Bek. One day he accused Chem Snguon' son of doing something wrong, which caused the later to be arrested. Chem had to go and beg all the KR people he knew in order to get his son released. Otherwise he almost have been killed. To the last day before his death, Chem never forgave Hor Nam Hong, although they bother were serving as yuon puppets together. Having observed how Hor survived, always at the top, one has to wonder how he managed to do this while people around him had met their ill fate. He is very cunning and resilient. He knew, and still does, how to use and abuse in order to survive.
Believe it or not! The whole Cambodia is like a giant prison and all Khmer Rouge prisons are designed to kill Cambodian people whether the prison is Toul Sleng or Boeng Trabek prison or any Khmer Rouge prison because all prisoners are consider the enemy of Angkar!
Just remember the Khmer Rouge achieved zero crime rates because criminals are killed right on the spot!
If AH HOR NAM HONG found to be affiliated with the Khmer Rouge prison in any way shape or form and that is enough to convict him as a killer just like AH DUCH!
There are those witnesses who still alive and live to tell their story of their love one who die at Boeng Trabek prison and now it is the time to listen to their story!
My parents, two brothers and my sister was killed by the Khmer Rouge. Let Khmer people talk freely, dann we can find the trust in the history. For me, the communists and the former Khmer rouge are babares.
View of farmer
CHEY YO ! Mr. Rainsy
ALL AH POUK khmers rouge must put them in jail. they don't deserve to live free .
Ask "mengly.org", 4:01? Why not ask Sam Rainsy directly, you moron?
Well, I am not aware of any witness has been silence from testifying against KR members, but for Sam Rainsy to withheld witnesses from the ECCC up to now make him an accomplice for criminals. He should be disqualified from all political activities for such crime.
You freaking Viet pimp @7:19AM must Go home now!
Quit prostituting on Khmer's land you freaking "Yuon Katop"!
Go home Viet!
The world knows you Viet true color already!
Gentleman
KR prison would be under the control either army or secret police of the region.leaders of the particular region would mainly aware of what happening in prison, apart from those were killed by hatred or personal clash.
I stronger believe that Boeung Trabaek prison had a closed link to Tuol Sleng, where Duch was in charge.Duch can be witness if needed, along with other leaders that could be traced. khieu Samphorn can possibly expose a lot of how hiarrachy consisted of.
For sure , the truth will come out. As it was commented that it is interesing to know how these two every regime ministers survived, but those innocents and khmer compatriots were killed.
Praise for khmer survival.
Neang SA
The bottom line is did prison director follow direction from higher up or went beyond his duty.
Thus, you need to have witness/es to testify to the killing and to why the killing is. Can Sam Rainsy provides such proof? I doubt it.
Sam Rainsy is a role model for all Cambodian people for his heroism to stand to support his weak and needies people. He is one of the best leader who dare to stand against evils. I wish him all the best and be success in this year election to protect Cambodians from slipping into slavery race in South east Asia. I urge everyone to be behind him. Areak Prey
Wrong, Sam Rainsy maybe a good role model for gorilla on Planet of the Ape, but not Cambodia.
My beloved 4:25PM!
Yes, indeed, ya are unquestionally correct!
Hun SenVarn is absolutely a good role model for CPP's parasites who are selfishly sucking every single drop of Khmer's blood in order to get a quick rich, but not the people of Khmers nor the nation of Kampuchea!
Pourquoi Son Excellence HOR NAMHONG a peur peur de quoi , d'etre jugé Excellence surtout n'ayez pas peur. Si vous n'etes pas coupable et ni responsable il faut dire la vérité et surtout pas de parjure . De toute façon la famille Hor est tristement célèbre , en France quand on parle de Mr HOR MONIRATH , on lui compare << à un bandit de grand chemin, c'est un DRACULA de 21ieme , en France il n'a rien appri honnetete simplicité et surtout démocratie , par contre la corruption pire l'extorsion lui il sait c'est génétique chez ses gens la Kmer qui déteste les extortionnaires!!!!
whatever, is this some kind of a joke? talk about a trouble-maker! everybody knows people like this are just a fluffers, a political fluffer that is!
Only Viet and this KJE are, 12:26AM!!!
All of us Khmers and the people around the world should know by now that CPP are the former Khmer Rouge on the Vietcong's side. The Khmer Rouge that is in court today are the Khmer Rouge on the Chinese's side. How can one get punished and not the other? is beyond anyone's imagination. Justice will not be fully served until both of the criminals are in court. MR. HOR NAM HONG IS NO LESS AND SHOULD BE INCLUDED. GET THEM ALL DOWN TO THE COURT ! May be they will get less sentence for NOT fully stayIing in the regime, but all should be punished at some degrees and be removed from all the government seats. Would you allow the Nazi members to run the UN? and it's the same with Cambodia!!! Good luck to Mr. Sam Rainsey!!!!!
The most honorable man in Cmabodia is Mr. Sam Rainsey!!!!!!!!! Sam Rainsy!!!!!!!!Sam Rainsey!!!!!
The most honorable man in Cambodia is mR. Sam Rainsey!!!!!!!!Sam Rainsey!!!!!!!!!Sam Rainsey!!!!!!!
F^*%@ Sam rainsy he a half Chinese half viet half dumbass ass western wannabe ass kisser who wants power on srok Khmer so he can sign over the all available resources and Khmer land to western capitalist dogs. He needs to get his ass stinking face out of the white mans asses so he can see what his stupidity is doing to khmer land. Khmer don't trust outsiders, their the reason our country is in the condition it was in. FUCK the outsiders they only want in so they can destroy from the inside out.
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